so obvious, well, it was in that we are now back in the obama era foreign policy of drone. first ask questions later as we have already seen, even in afghanistan during this process, when a bombing of a car that we thought was on the way to conduct a suicide attack. turned out to be an afghan ally. and his 7 children, least according to reporting that is coming out as, as we speak, when he says over the horizon capabilities. that's what we're talking about. it is, it is drone drone drone if we have a problem with the attack from the air is obviously was very popular during the obama administration. this was very popular, really even during the clinton administration, when the air force was kind of in ascendancy in the pentagon and the idea was why risk any kind of boots on the ground when we can take care of everything from the sky. i don't quite know exactly how effective that is and ironically, considering bite and had that powerful flurry by the end of the speech,

talking about how there is no low cost, low risk war. and then we kind of want to have our cake needed to buy by saying, hey, we don't need any kind of on the ground commitments because we could just drone people . and that's kind of the, you know, less calories, less filling. war that he said doesn't exist. well, we know the problems that, that creates to because if we look at the, you know, the strike on the suppose it terrorists that we're heading to comple airport. just a couple of days ago. we know that that killed or city killed a family of 10 afghani so mean that it's that sort of thing that perpetuates hatred in countries against america. so to say that, you know, launching drone strikes is perhaps the solution going forward is quite clear. let's just look at the last few days. it might not be but that's a counter balance right now, joe biden is extraordinarily weak on the fact that this did not go according to

plan. nobody is out here saying that this was the perfect way for it to happen, or it was a good way for it to happen, even in joe biden. don't mean the point they wanted to get across with this was always going to be a disaster. nobody could do this in a way that was in a disaster. nobody could execute a withdrawal that didn't leave 200 american and thousands of afghan allies behind the lines of nobody could do it without the help of the the, the, the taliban. that not only that, we leave a tremendous amount of equipment, but now whenever either secretary blinking or joe biden say that we have leverage over the taliban and we are not going to take their word for it. what you're talking about is money. what they're talking about is an entrance onto the international, stayed what they're talking about is unlocking billions of dollars in aid that would otherwise have gone to the afghan government. so the question is, how much do we feel comfortable paying the taliban? and what are we going to get for our money? what joe biden is saying that was the only way that this was going to happen.

nobody else could have done it better. so all of your monday morning quarterbacking a stove. it because now we can look into the big, beautiful future that is a world in which we are not at war and get does this draw a line for president biden under the african crisis? because i mean, you know, again looking at his speech, he made his speech, he walked away in terms of journalists and the public. will they sort of taking what he said and largely agree g. think be a lot of pushback. now against that speech, know, i believe that this is going to do specifically in major media outlets, what it is designed to do, and it will be looked at as bite and closed the door on the afghan war. and he did it with presidential gravitas, he didn't stumble a, you know, in terms of the, the mechanics of giving the presidential speech. it was well delivered, which is not always been the case for joe biden,

during this last couple weeks. so you could tell that he is probably relieved that this is over. the big question is mrs. what i always say on the podcast is that whenever something bad happens, you're mostly susceptible to something worse happening. so right now, the liability for joe biden is the fact that there are 200 americans left behind the line. that there are thousands of afghans up behind the line. and they can, they can step up to the microphone and say over and over and over again that we are working with the secretary state. there is no deadline. we're working diligently to get them out. we have partners in the taliban that are going to help us do it. and that's all fine and good until somebody shows up on youtube with some horrifying murder. right? or, or somebody is kept or kidnapped. and then that becoming a story really reignite the problems with the exit and not necessarily the ending of the war. so there is a liability there. but as of right now,

the tendency of america is to kind of forget a foreign conflict. as soon as it's over and as of right now, it's over the taliban. i even over the last few weeks and i publicly they said look, you know, we're going to honor our commitments and allow people to leave this country. but then there are reports of reprisals to the more we have these reports is not just put the pressure back on america to act again and with the taliban really be concerned, you know, coming their way would be financial sanctions. while the problem that the question that taliban and look, i am by far more of a handle is domestic policy. so please for everybody who is watching me right now, take my opinion with a great itself as i now don my taliban cap and give you my opinion of their internal ideas. but they find themselves in a situation where they are in the today yesterday ended the american occupation to

day begin their civil war. they now have to wrestle with not only the remnants of the afghan government in that military. they've got to wrestle with the fact that islamic state or dash isis k is, is, were referred to. it is something that wants to continue duty stabilize the taliban and to establish a foothold. and then of course, we've got our old pals in al qaeda that cause 911 in the harboring osama bin laden by muslim of omar was the reason why we were in afghanistan for as long as we were . so they've got a lot on their hands working with the united states does bring them money. but at the same time, this is not a stable country. this is not like many western democracies where somebody loses an election and the new person comes in and we believe that everything has changed. this is a capital c, capital w civil war and they've got a lot on their hands. and that's before we even get into the fact that they are

a theocratic regime that in their last go round, did things like of, you know, of a ban, all sorts of western niceties, like, you know, civil rights and stuff like that. and then of the rights of women and girls, among many, many other unsavory things. so whether or not they returned to that is yet another unknown as that country goes through yet another term, ultra was battle for power in terms of what he said to just in the, by sort of russia in china. did you think it was old that he then went home from afghanistan to talk about competition from china and from challenges from russia? when actually the look at what those countries have said. they have also said were very concerned about the refugee situation from afghan. his son, as is the us about the possibility of it being a hot bed for fir, the terrorism. a concern that the u. s. has to drug drug trafficking with another issue. they have lots of things in common. but again, the u. s. is sort of saying,

i know, you know, there's a difference for the u. s. his interest and those of russia and china. it's surprises me not at all that he brought up, roger and shy because the live that you what the dog about is what happened over the last 17 days. i'm surprised. he didn't bring up the fact and take credit for kanye west. finally dropping donder leg if there is a issue that does not refer to how that exit was handled, he wanted to talk about it. so russia and china have been in the biden world view, that number one and number 2 enemies of his foreign policy. so of course you brought them up, this is a foreign policy speech. the question then becomes, how does it relate to china and russia as for their lation ship to have ghana, stan, you who know russia and china do have a far more complex relationship with them. again, as the incense they are closer and, and have a more regional relationship with them. but this was a wave to a tie,

everything back to where the biting foreign policy, what you is, and obliquely, specifically with china, bring it back to an economic question. as he hinted at that or war in afghanistan is making this less competitive with china, which is a bit of a stretch. but again, the point here wasn't that any of these points made sense? the point was that we were not talking about $200.00 americans still left and up can stand under dallas from a pay our point of view. finally, justin is this speech saved him a total in any way, considering all the flack he was taking over the last 14 days. she did a very credible job of doing what is their greatest asset right now? to morrow will be september 1st. joe biden has had the worst month of his presidency with not only this but also various things legislatively and of media logically with this hurricane just louisiana. nothing has gone right for joe biden in august, but on september 1st,

he is going to wake up and not be at war with afghanistan. that is a popular position across parties, and that is what is positive for him. now can that be enjoyed or will it be overshadowed by sins committed by the exit? well, that remains to be. ok, well, we'll leave it there to just in really good to told you tonight that was justin robert young, host of the politics, politics, politics, podcast. thanks for coming up as live. now our president joe biden, then as we were saying, has just addressed america with his speech to the end of the 20 year war in afghanistan. saying that the era of major military operations to make other countries is over joining us live now to get more. and this is kind of morphing. he was following it to bite and called it an extraordinary successful mission. sorry that caleb, what more can you tell us about his speech? he did go on provide half an hour,

so i think i was kind of seeing what were the key points he was making while this long awaited speech by joe biden, about to withdraw from afghanistan was very significantly delayed, took quite a long time for biden to finally, come out and start making his remarks. when he spoke, he basically said that this is how the mission was designed. he said that the afghan withdrawl, that so far has caused 13 us service members lives as well as the lives of 170 afghan civilians. this is, this is going according to plan. the leaving date is today august 31st and was designed to save american lives and according to joe biden, america is reaching its goals. this is what he said extraordinary success. this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravely and selfless courage of united states,

military and our diplomat and intelligence professionals. now, the town of this speech was extremely defensive. at one point he shouted about how the united states had the choice of leaving or escalating the conflict in afghanistan. furthermore, it's important to note that while he did blame the afghan army for the situation as well as his predecessor donald trump, he also changed some of the numbers from what we understand. he now says that it was 5500 us individuals that were air lifted out, not 6000 a previously floated number. now he said he was not going to extend a forever war and make it a forever exit from afghanistan. and he said that the only us interest in afghanistan at this point is to make sure the country doesn't become the base for further attacks on the united states. now, it's important to put these remarks in the proper context. we have the situation,

13 us soldiers slain and but his terrorist suicide attack. and joe biden has been very harshly criticized for the way he dealt with the transfer of these soldiers remains on sunday. mark schmidt's, i was the father of one of those soldiers who died, said he was quite disgusted with the way joe biden talked about his own son's death . bo biden. the way he seemed to look at his watch while they were speaking, all of this does not look good for joe biden. here's what we heard. i said, i swear to god. if he checks his watch one more time, i couldn't look at him anymore after that, considering especially the time and why we were there. i found to be the most disrespectful thing i've ever seen. now we have many republican voices calling for joe biden to resign at this point and step down from office. and while republicans have been known to be harshly critical of joe biden,

we've also heard some democratic voices stepping up and shining in and voicing their frustration and disappointment with the administration and handling of afghanistan. the creation process appears to have been egregiously mishandled. in order to move forward, we need answers and accountability regarding the cascading failures that lead us to this moment. our troops deserve nothing less than a complete and unvarnished truth. i think that timeline is less than what we have to do to get the u. s. citizen and others. out of the country, president biden withdrew from afghanistan before the deadline, abandoning american citizen, still on the ground, desperately needing evacuation. if biden refuses to resign, he must be impeached. this is an absolute disgrace. joe biden camera, harris, antony, blank, and lloyd austin and general milly should all resign or face impeachment and removal from office.

ok, i think we've just lost our connection though with keller. but that was kind of muffin reporting from new york about to jo biden's speech, just coming up to quarter past 11 here in moscow night. continuing our theme on what is happening and i can't stand the aeroplane unit is bracing research and refugees from the country administers have just held an emergency meeting to with a focus on preventing a repeat of the 2015 migration crisis. with more on that is shown it to been sky. well, what seems to be in agreement from the minutes is, is that it has to be moved on to protect the external orders from the migration prices happening. there was a discussion about the situation in afghanistan that the moment on the fact that they could now be a safe haven for terrorists. and also they could be more terrorism as

a result of the current situation. but the main focus that appeared to be from the meeting that they leave is the ministers that will to prevent illegal migrants from coming to europe based on lessons learned, the e u and its members states stand determined to act jointly to prevent the reoccurrence of uncontrolled large scale, illegal migration movements faced in the past. appropriate security checks should be carried out, including for the full use of relevant e u databases as well as resignation in euro duck. well, the issue of dealing with a lot migration is something that you would be rattling since the us started pulling out its troops from afghanistan. it's something that you're really concerned about because wanting to see is a repeat of what happened back in 2015 when around a 1000000 syrians flooded in europe, causing what many described as being my ration crisis. but since then,

there has been a huge amount of work done, particularly on the eastern buddhist o, v u block to reinforce the borders that have a look now at some of the work that's been undertaken. news, [000:00:00;00] the

me is also the thorny issue of resettling migrants and refugees from i gamma song, something that you decided that it still can not agree on. and as a result of back, as a result of being able to give any definitive figures as to how many people will be able to come to the you, it will not still be done on a voluntary basis. country by country that you estimate since 2015 that have been around 570000 asylum application just for my got the song. and it says that since february applications have increased the food, of course, as that concern as a whole of the for my sons government was coming. now that you want to see, and this is discussed the meeting today, but there is a move on to relocate. people on the sun, 2 countries nearby in the region, so around and gone, but we've already heard from pockets on that. it feels as if it's all ready for the

brim. i cannot take any more individuals on this idea that your looks to be closing . it will just continue with the idea fortress, europe is something that is provoked theory for international human rights organizations such as, i'm the international law. i'm with the international is written to the e. u. and also, if you came to say that it deeply concerned about the type of language that you was using when it talks about protecting its buddhas, but you will. so how's it says another solution. this is daniel cower has money in front of the taliban by saying, look, if you cheat to certain conditions, if you protect the white women, if you allow girls to to school, we will give you money and funding towards humanitarian assistance in the country. rebuilding the country, all of facebook does come with those conditions in the you commission is today thing off that press conference, we will have to wait and see if those positions are met. the money will not be forthcoming before they met. despite all of the discussions today,

we know that some european countries offer that they also will not be taking any more migrant refugees from amazon. was to see the ultimate, when it comes to admission, my position is well known. i think that nothing much has changed. especially because austria has done the last already we have taken in a big of them, proportionate share of people since 2015 per capita. we have the 4th largest afghan community worldwide. and so in that respect, i think austin's is well known here. in the meantime, we're having a warning from the u. n. h. the all that says that there was an even larger, greater problem that is learning in afghanistan to the 39000000 people that live the high commissioner for refugees, almost baking european union to keep it open the in you said they are open. but as we've seen from that reinforcement to fences and barriers and your idea that they could be deploy drones and patrols on the borders,

i know how many people feel. we've had a similar cause to keep food. food is open from the international rescue committee . thing that you must not abandon people's montgomery done. unfortunately, that is now how many people feel that they have been already abandoned because we surely been ski. so let's get the thoughts not maximilian cry. he's an m e p for the alternative germany party and he joins us live now you're very welcome . thanks for coming on. we just had that and know how much you heard of our correspondence report, but the feeling is, is it you is abandoning people in afghanistan? is that your view? no, it's not my view. i mean there are 50000000 people. oh my god. it's that low country and there is no human rights in the country, you live them. and right now, i mean, we spend a lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of life and they've got to make

a more rest and place. the majority of it to make it got more of gamma and play and we have to respect that. and there is no, no need to, to take in millions or how we want to let them in the country. and of course, we want to be to stay in the apartment. we are here, they are there. so i don't need to take the do you have out here today for those guns that actually help sort of western forces in afghanistan over the last 20 years. now i feel reprisals from the taliban. i mean there is, the problem is been ever you have any tension than our integration the last ring and you're in the make the exception to the, to the our,

it and all we had about high have people who your call today, our station list that we have to, to take in 70 and tell him that and they will know, take the land with day to collaborate with them so that my credit would be to take into directly to the government that route and get guarantee that they will never put those people supported the forces i'm not willing to take an unlimited number of people who claim to have read for us this exact so obviously will become a great gate for everyone to, to,

to claim something because i know the sort of position it's saying, look, we really don't want to repeat of the 2015 refugee crisis that we had a few years ago. do you think the 2 situations are comparable in any way? i think it could be can be for germany alone because more than 1000000 people from syria. we know today about high up to high, low him. i want to leave the country because of the of the poverty which we have. there are off to 40 years of war and that will be noted from the crime. that you gratian, gabby, people, into liberal, barry, this is much more difficult than the integration the syrian people.

so if we don't take care and they didn't protect more than the immigration crisis, coloring to redeem change and call, it could become much, much worse then the crisis we have faced in 2013 and we have to be careful and we have to protect board and we have to have people and maybe at the level we're kind of big, but never, never let them come to europe. what concerns do you have, particularly, i know there are concerns across europe on this, but the threat of terrorism now coming out of afghanistan, since we seen the advent of isis k. i mean, you noticed the terrorism of the weight and the muslim bird has changed the last, the last 2030, the, the, the example on the move them country a multicolored, hard to do,

but we will have the in clerks of some but that is not a problem, the problem is the number of people who are good social life by war and under the condition or right now, 50 percent, or ask me all the act. heidi, over and over represent the crime, especially when i come to rate and the women mostly sexual even because the differences between the court here will turn on the one hand and the extremely liberal jim, on the other hand, are huge. and to my, he is not that much that the, that the lot in regret to me,

great terrorist and i me gratian, look the, to run the free on the, on the people who were trained and educated and visualized during what condition we will have been on home, the problem on lifestyle and our address and gender was just very briefly maximillian and when anglo american, the last 2015, the crisis that we saw in 2015 opened the board. it's refugee was the public failing this time around about refugees coming into germany. i think from the polls they know there is a majority that do not want to repeat the pay and the draw. you want to keep the ball close. on the other hand, differently,

say media is creating a framing that wants to, to bring people to a kind of a moral obligation. but still, what the current calls is, the majority in germany and europe favors a tough line on immigration. okay. maximillian cry, we're going to leave it there. appreciate your time. that makes me cry and let me pay for the alternative for germany. play through it. now, after seizing power, the tyler bonded and it's a general amnesty, enough gun. the stand for all citizens, including officials, he worked under the previous governments, but we propose scrubbing of taliban reprisals as mentioned. any body with links to foreign forces could well be endanger. we spoke to a former interpreter, he worked with british embassy and campbell. during the 20th campaign, he asked that his name and location be kept secret. we have a lot of freedom government because there's a powerful government. we never thought of. we will. in this situation wouldn't be

for us. i don't know why they did. why without protection, without any almost. when we call that, i don't have an issue. i'm a, i'm keep changing way. my place we had. my goal from the scheme on the government is and when people talk to the airport, but we couldn't even because how can they were feeding people like saying if i'm thinking i'm doing and some of the 1st be ridiculous to me by a piece but also like you know, with this being, even though i think i've tried many parents call them even then they have to show it another way and i know what to do,

but that they're not getting the response. i lost everything with the hope of the i will, i will from watching archie internation just come into hard past 11 here. more sca, thanks for company to not. we'll be back with more news from the developments in afghanistan. place of the storage of the day to and about half of the the