[000:00:00;00] the join me every thursday on the alex summon show and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then me the begging to go to one tunnel because what i've seen and witnessed in belgrade was so destructive to this day i have, i want to sleep. today we present the 1st of an in depth investigation into the victims of america's brutal war on terror, line troll. now by the us pull out from i got a son. so awesome bag than

a former guantanamo detainees shows the horrors. in june. they had a found a woman in the next room that led me to believe with my wife being tortured. they wait with the picture of my children in front of me and also where do you think they are now when you thing happens is like you took your way coming up to bring you access to cobble airport just days after it was abandoned by western troops, the terminal, the equipment shafted and destroyed in the us retreat all the helicopters and there are a lot of them that were abandoned. that was, have been caught various various electrical blocks removed from the foreign secretary, grail via pays over his handling the crisis enough got to stand. and while he was relaxing on a beach when calico fell to the tele plus the, well, this is what it feels like. the ice breakers allowing for the average weight of a cruise with

a difference in the crew considering his journey. then on the massive nuclear russian ice breaker, ploughing his way through frozen northern seas. this time exploring more of the high tech vessel, meeting the crew, and encountering an iceberg to along the way as well. ah, good afternoon from russia they are one the and now low from ortiz, will use h q. the says that the 2nd of september is kevin with you for the next off. with to alicia heard those headlines then with the us of afghan. this time, washington is now set to review the failings of its rushed and chaotic evacuation than to r t to whistle to scrutinize the rhythmic impact their occupation had on the lives of millions in

a special project called ghosts of war. i 53 year old mo as him beg, it's a name for the past lives in britain these days he runs a non profit and doesn't look like someone who's lived through the experience of america's worst prison practices. but he knows about that 1st hand. i had to stop telling myself that i'm the father, that i my son, i'm a husband that i'm a human being. i started to whole myself. what i had been told that i was, and that was my number 558. that was my number in the, in the room in may 2002. i was interrogated by the c i and the f b i and they threatened if i did not corporate to send me either to egypt or serious to be further. tortured with us. are you with the enemy?

there is no in between and that doctor still stand ah, in. i think it's quite clear to me at the united states response to the terrible death of, of 911 was vengeance. the war on terror is not a police operation. it's a military operation. why they picked for me. it wasn't just me. they picked on everyone who knows. if anybody prepared to hand you over to configure talk to you, you know, i live in sundays and the bill of rights and i'm my terrorist and i'm a deal national. they handed me over to the americans without any legal process before i was held that for

a year in 2002 to 2003. and i saw 2 individuals beaten to death by american soldiers. these terrorists played by a whole set of different rules. it's going to force us in your words to get mean 30 and master in order to take them on will use all tools at our disposal to do so. the boys a few bad apples. isolated incidents, one by one, the terrorists are learning the meaning of american justice. to me, this place, i pity my what the united states was doing in afghanistan. they were bringing people to this torture sight afghans for africa and abusing them outside of the rule of law and then allowing some of them to go back

home and they would go home and tell people what the americans did. by the time i got to guantanamo, i was begging to go to turn on because what i've seen and witnessed in background was so destructive to this day. i haven't, i can't sleep. oh, i several of us. one tunnel including several taliban members who now heads of various departments in the act and government were tortured. we were stripped, we were beaten and was spat upon. we were humiliated photograph this was taken during this period of time. they had a sound, a woman in the next room that led me to believe with my wife being tortured. they waved with pictures of my children in front of me and asked me where do you think they are now, what do you think happened in the night and took your way? and of course, what they wanted me to do was cosign and confession that i was a member of al qaeda,

which i was not. and this was i'd say stand that i got it. i think i got it better than a lot of the other prison. i me, ah, so this is the hon made calendar that i made when i was in town and i thought that perhaps if i counted the days that it will be easier. but when the days turn into weeks and months, and then 2 years, i realize that it was just futile. when i received such letters from my children who are very young at the time, it's actually made it worse to look at the calendar and start the count down the days my children growing up without me. and every day, without them, with a stab in the heart. and they would come sporadically,

they had to be vetted and censored by the us. censorship. my daughter who was 6 at the time, wrote a poem, 12345. once i caught official life and they redacted that because they said that has numbers in a numbers could mean some sort of a code. so it was that kind of nonsensical reduction disconnecting from the idea of being a father. ironically and sadly, but also my own personal faith, my belief in god my reading, the koran, and again on expectedly, becoming friends with several of the american soldiers who would bring me little snippets of information. sometimes they can a chocolate. sometime maybe we can a dvd player and show me a film and lots of humanity that i have never forgotten to despair. and i think i left guantanamo not hating america because of those soldiers,

me messages directly from some american soldiers who say that this has be a, a war that has destroyed us as individuals. soldiers i spoke to told you that they cannot keep at night. so i am in no doubt about the, the effects of this war, not just on the individuals, but on the nation as a whole of whom the soldiers representative me has gone to the shop and unity types were destroyed. the united states produced a senate report on torture, but not a single person was ever bought for charges for these kind. recently, i gave evidence the international criminal court for their investigations of abuses

by americans enough. they will investigate to be like states, the national army and the taliban. the only ones who responded by threatening the international court was the united states of america. they said that we will sanction all members of the international court. we will arrest any members of the icpc who come to the usa or elsewhere the want to investigate us. i think the united states of america needs to step back. if it wants to help any of any assistance to the people who understand it's got in the position to negotiate those conditions, it has, it has been an aggressive taliban already made gestures towards russia towards china, towards the wrong to its pockets dawned with indonesia would be like states and britain in particular, i think the feeling very upset because this is a defeat. it's a military defeat. however you want to look at it and not imperial hubris, as it were. will not allow them to say that we need to move forward and continue within negotiations that we began in doha,

that they cannot be any more saber rattling. it's no good for the people. it's no good. i've got assessment with the britain or america you've really got to find a way for you. as i'm talking to us at our 10 to national, i can tell you we're going to have more the people whose lives was shattered by the us war on terror. but for now, back to afghanistan and into his 3rd day of a post us reality with terrible april, now devoid of western troops and under the full control of the taliban, us with vehicles helicopters not be an issue, can be seen abandoned as a weird side of the ones busy terminals are senior correspondent, broadcast fee of next and reporting from a couple apple. these place looks very different to what we arrived to during the evacuation that cleaning the plagues up. there's set enormous amount of work to do what with all the vehicles, all the amendment tool,

the i'm you mission that was left behind by us and allied forces as they retreated as above while there was of it this tool as a person that is still being cleaned up, but as i said, there's a lot of work to do these evacuation that the pentagon cools the largest and most complex in history left a whole lot of trash behind trash wreckage. and they, bree the taliban command, that tells us they're destroyed. 95 percent of the equipment, stuff, and systems, they destroyed everything and destroyed cars. airplanes, especially the military for us are destroyed 100 percent. we asked to see the airport and once crammed into the back of a pickup truck, we got our wish. it was like a movie set, a disaster, the scene. our 1st stop was the helicopter graveyard, all the helicopters and there are

a lot of them that were abandoned at capital airport. they have been sabotaged quite visibly. the was, have been cut various, various electrical blocks removed and smashed, apparently with a sledge hammer, anything the taliban or even afghans could use the americans destroyed. and what they couldn't bring themselves to destroy. they let loose the, the don't create the cause, such as the, on luck. you have yet many of the dogs lives behind by americans. but they weren't locked in crates as we had to believe. they will let you at the dentist, someone before the final us troops had taken someone, had opened all the crate and left them with, with whom online animal activists mobilized in the thousands. there, in the sense that the american troops could have left behind these dogs right there

next to the runway. at the mercy of the taliban. the americans live the dogs to get out from the specific places. but our teams and our officers called the in charge of those dogs and to dave, they came to the port and they're trying to collect the docks. and they are trying to in the facility for them and what they need to give them all, we can say that these may be just what the taliban needs. a p r, stuck collect the dogs, had the move with the activities and reap the humanitarian glory. alternatively, they may have enough on their plate, she, the americans didn't just ashore the helicopters and vehicles. they trashed much more than that when i was at the, at the morning to the airport. so i saw a lot of distractions here. many things were destroyed. i don't know who did this actually,

america was there. we have got damage and the road infection you can see at the backside of me. it was also damage. but fortunately by the help of a lobby made it and we might make it correct. the other interesting thing about the airport is the, the hundreds of armored diplomatic vehicles that have been left here abandoned during the evacuation. they used these vehicles to block off roads while the evacuation was on the way. this is passport control at capital international airport. this is the states that it was left in after the evacuation was that the united states left behind. they also destroyed much of the airport civilian infrastructure, computers, x rays, cameras, even arrival and departure screens. here they saying it was the americans who cut the power cables knocked over the monitors, smashed windows and kicked in doors. even looted the big machines. why babs,

boredom, bats hate. you don't end the 20 year war as even a humiliating evacuation without feeling a little bit of spite more. i guess you are g couple. i've gotten this done. more of the political fall. i to tell you about the biggest failure of foreign policy in a generation, the u. k. foreign secretary dominic rather than blasted by parliament for his performance on i've got this done. that hasty withdrawal of us troops and the swift, successful offensive by the taliban, apparently took rob by surprise. it is important for us to move what we're doing away from when did people hold them? i mean, i'm not looking to brush vicky over this. i just want to know when you went things . when did you, when in fact, when was the last time a foreign minister went to a 2nd stop. went to beck and i'm not sure i'd have to check if you'd like to know the busiest, very have to come back to 3rd grade,

but seems particularly random because high come us with reason is better still ranging the evacuation of german people through tashkent and it seems to be a route that works really effectively from germany. did you ever, at any point, consent or offer to reside? now i consider getting home with the job. it comes a day after a tv interview, where he indicated that military intelligence failures led to the rapid fall of the country to the taliban in effect, claiming the ministry of defense, but a form ahead of the army. hit back at rob over suggestions that thousands of afghans eligible to come to the u. k were left behind and said the government had been forewarned about the situation. and numbers were a key question for the can we see? did the foreign secretary know how many u. k and 4 national long vulnerable people were still in afghanistan, which apparently he couldn't answer conference numbers remaining, but we think that they would be in the low hundreds. why 100, you mean $110.00 sort of area or do you mean under $3400.00?

they will be in the low hundreds, $900.00 sounds that it could be $400.00. or it could be 10510115. i'm, if i could give you any more precision because i would let me somewhere between 10500 . so let me explain one k nationals. so let me explain why it's difficult. there are also questions about rob's role in the evacuation. he delegated a key telephone call to the gun foreign minister to a junior minister to make a call, which ultimately didn't happen. roosevelt, how often he telephoned ministers in other countries to help assess what was needed during the to process. but the foreign secretary believe the efforts in the u. k. much those on the ground who is take response helpline and the email address in your department, not even being opened. so the, the issue as you have a search for the door is that you have a search of emails including late emails and requests like that. but let me just

explain the situation for you. just purely transparency. we got 3 types of cases. they melting away to get, frankly, and countries that didn't you 3 question question. you're going back to the question from that from and i'm really fine, but i'll continue to use one process. how career problems other examples they don't, people out after almost 2 hours of questions, it remains a case of wait and see to discover if there will be any consequences for the current foreign secretary. exactly. 19. there's a bit more of a fall out from i've got to start after the break, but this 2 and a change of pace. we're continuing our trip to the north pole and correspondence voyage of adventure, a bull that massive russian nuclear icebreaker. the ah,

i need the me ah ah, i use sometimes a simplest answer is the correct answer and a lot of people ask, why are these tax tax so high? why is the stock market so high? and the simple answer is that it's a transfer payment. the federal government is transferring the paper money that

they print into the pockets of the tech executives. it's as plain as the nose on your face, and you can see in the numbers the, so as ripples from the canister pull up begin to be felt around the world. western media saying the u. s. x it from there is actually going to benefit russia in china with the americans go. and they say paging. moscow said to gay, lucrative influence in central asian country has been sort of a talking point to the major economics for the case of today and rushes for a spring together. investors around the globe from that stock accountability care report based platform. the form was created 6 years ago as a way of bringing together an a jiving percentages that exist between russia own parson regions. big asian power houses, countries like china, india, south korea, japan,

vietnam. and all of those countries are present the form in some shape or form. but of course, the russian chinese partnership is the most develop a wall simply because of the way these countries complementing each other's strengths and weaknesses. both strategically and tactically, both russia and china share the vision of eurasia as integrated, logistically, i'm economically integrated regions when neighbors can feed off each other's trade and development, rather than compete for the fears. up influence and such vision, all united eurasia into great. if you raise your from lisbon to lot of a stalk, could not be realized with of ghana son remaining a major seat of war. and that's why i think, to some extent western media arrived that russia and china looking at what's happening in afghanistan very closely because this country of data sun is located right in the center of eurasia,

with the war waging their 4th jacobs on any effort to leave the west and east was doomed. now, i think what's taken maney. participants of this form back where was the statement by joseph biden. they delayed a statement on the janice answering gauge, the serious competition with china. we're dealing with the challenges and multiple fronts with russia, and there's nothing china or russia when rather have, would want more in this competition in the united states to be bogged down another decade in afghanistan. while the most grateful interpretation i could give to these for a wide, joseph biden is that he's searching for some retorted old device. but i think it's well known to anyone who knows anything about the politics of the region that russia and china has long been. we have long been critical of the american presence here, and the total futility is not the crime that this presence abroad because it was

a huge waste of money. but above all, it was a huge waste of life, not only african lives, but also live in regions because both russia and china believe that the americans, for many decades use the stability in afghan assigned to saw instability in central asia for russia or in suzanne province. for china, but both countries are eagerly looking forward to see whether what the american president sad about and the era of wars, whether it's indeed true or not, whether it's rhetoric or whether it's indeed a change in american foreign policy because they want nothing else than the united states finally putting an ad to its efforts to remake other countries by the use of military for boys because they're invaluable. so okay, i promise finally, a few minutes to take a bit more adventure issue. we will take an icebergs together and go to the top of the world all that and more. and he's continuing adventure to the north pole,

our intrepid correspondence and pull the massive russia nuclear icebreaker. previously were departing from the city of more mascot, the whole board of worlds only nuclear ice breaker fleet. this ship is huge. i mean it's basically like a rebuilding the website and our cabin nothing fancy, but it has everything we need. so we walk around the ship, i see doesn't mean that could be exposed to radiation. all right, so i'm writing more like a lot. we're going all the way to the north. now it's time to meet the captain. a tall, handsome man who likes to smoke his bite on the bridge while steering the mighty vessel forward. at the other 20 miles. it's the rudder as i understand through a move through all the more you can effectively cool the ship's wheel, the rudder above and it has automatic steering,

which holds the ship's course for the sum, of course. so this is something like an auto pilot, right? nice axiom of the bill that's quite an auto pilot. auto pilot is what keeps an aircraft in 3 dimensions. whereas on a ship, it's just to show up. and then if i turn the rudder or that was, it was just a new course. the vessel will turn and adjust to a new steady cause, and this is what happens on a lower deck every time the captain adjusts the course. the helm sets these large pistons in motion, which turns the ship left or right. the we were on the bridge interview and the captain and we were lucky enough to side our 1st arctic iceberg. shoot you this back to the day. icebergs aren't 100 percent white. they have these beautiful took wash sheet. they also come in handy for local birds. and habitable icebergs i can tell there are birds on the birds which rest in the water. they use

any surface that they find it. frank is an iceberg or a ship. they use it to take a rest. after 2 days of sailing, we reach friends, joseph land, and uninhibited arctic archipelago which belongs to russia, or this is the northernmost part of russia and a last piece of land on the way to the north hall. so it's down. we're approaching the edge of the world. now the most dangerous part of our journey begins. if something happens, it will take days for someone to come rescue us from now on. we can count only in ourselves and our captain the well, this is what it feels like. the ice breakers allowing for the ice, trembling,

i can't admit that when the ship hits the ice. seated huge blades on the deck. let's get a closer look. they are, they are hard for her bail or that are constantly working underneath the vessel. you might think data ice breaker, ramsey, i what it actually rides upon it 1st and then crushes downward with all the might. and that's one. the propellers come into play. they help chop the into small pieces, painting the way forward, washing the ship, break the ards, and push dry and trying to decide is mesmerized. it's weirdly both calming and intimidating at the same time. have a look at that. the wide path left by the ice,

gregory is close enough. as soon as we have passed through in a few minutes or the hours, it's all going to be covered with ice again as it we've never been here. shows you who the boss is around here and i guess makes you feel small and insignificant parts of the ships start to cover with ice as we get closer to the north. however, the temperature isn't extreme just under 0 degrees celsius. unlike me and battery polar explorer who we interviewed on the deck even refused to put his hat on the bridge. and it's a common misconception that the north pole is the coldest spot on the earth. it's completely false. the north pole is the middle of an ocean. the ocean does it kind of have storage and as it allows temperature spike frequently at the north pole, it's warmer than let's say in tango or mac on or it means the pole of coal does not coincide with an actual geographical. one big by ascii has taken several dozen expeditions to the north pole. global warming, he says, is speaking. it's tall on the arctic and the eyes becomes thinner every year.

however, he doesn't believe men made c, o 2 emissions are to blame for everything. but my share, the same viewpoint is fine to also people. this process is not a reversible in its nature. the anthropogenic factor is the main way. what it means is that imagine for a 2nd, we'll switch to green energy and stop reducing c o 2 in the atmosphere. all the factory is a close and you think this will suddenly don't know why it's coming up next? well, don't be fooled by his adorable look. a polar bear. we'll go after anything that's moving. if it's very time, it's midnight. but look how bright it is. it looks to me. we are on top of the work