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we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy plantation let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. developments only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful at the very critical time. time to sit down and talk hey folks. next step one. dennis miller plus one t j lab and he host the challenge on mtv $37.00 seasons that's been on. he's done the last 27 thanks. survivor meets you know, the real world, that sort of thing. young people and it sounds like a fun show. we'll talk to jay who's been a long time host right up to this. dennis miller plus one the lo there,

walk of the dentist there puts him. we're going to be joined by t j lab and today. and i know for some people who are not m t, v lights or b m. excellent. they're wondering who he is, a professional b m, x rider, who had some rough crashes, a turned into a reality show. host of m t these the challenge. now folks, i think i was there at the beginning of mtv, i think it was my what it, let's see 37 seasons of the show now. that absolutely boggles my mind. that will show you how fast time clips by the show is now on. it's $37.00 season now. the new season is entitled the challenge spies live and allies, allies, and it airs wednesdays, 8 pm, 7 pm central on mtv. this the host will find out when t j got into the hosting business t j 11. how are you? my friend. hello sir, how are you, brother?

when did you, you weren't there for for 30. great. you're not 37 years old. when did you get it? oh, thank you. very hope to hear that. i'm actually 44. i appreciate you though. i know i, i've been for 27 seasons now. i'm on 28th or 20 months now, but i it's a season. so people think that a lot, 3737 years, we actually found i understand it's like survivor to, you know like, yeah, and it's not year and i'm just saying 37 seasons. and god bless you brother. because you know those suits at any of these networks i used in judy she just forget her name. when i worked at m t v a, she was in charge you sweet and fresh that i know president, but there's a lot of suits at these places that after somebody makes the decision to hire somebody the next time they can look bright is the lack. the guy and for you to

last this long, you must be kicked on this job, brother, because some, at some point they'll keep you that long unless you, they do studies and they go t j is the big part of the success that is good for you. oh, thank you sir. yeah, i tell you why. i'm very happy and excited and they cannot believe that it's last song every season i was always like, there's just no way the last thing. there's no way. but you doesn't or not. i mean your affairs out and keep everything dialed in and she lives and that's where. busy i've been my whole life. i've just been making my overhead low. so good for you. keep it real. i like i like people were smart. listen, chavez is i know there are skills. i know everybody has something, but i'm telling you about people with skills that they're never got to taste. it is a cosmic endless summer wave. and if you use your head and don't become an idiot,

don't become a, don't become too demanding. use your head, show up, work hard, be pleasant, says people, you can make the long run. i always admire people when i, when i meet them in the business like that, good manners count for a lot and you don't have to get in somewhere and blow it up in the name of being an artist. so good for your brother. i'd like your approach. thank you sir. i appreciate it. yeah, i agree. 100 percent. people how you want to be treated and just be as nice as you are executive producer. now listen. no, not everybody knows the show. so give me the will dial in on this season's theme spies lives and allies, but just give me the meta view, the overview. what is the challenge and challenges? competition show competition reality show where most people are on other shows. they come from survivor or really neural or like this, and we put them all in the house together and then they go out and they come from

all over the world. i think the countries are so represented on this season, which is off. and i love having worldwide rec, no recognition, haven't people from the world. busy be involved, not just american, not just, you know, not just mexicans where we are now or whatever. it's real cool. having you know, and expect a group of people and this is like, they're off by law and allies and whatever. but they're all agents essentially are calm ages so their. busy whole. busy thing is basically double. 07 me sir. rider me. that's a good way of present. that was one of the things that bugs me above water life is the, the, when they apply mystical notions to people from other lands. and they always talk about the americans. i get sick of it was that every country on the planet little america, the in croatia,

there's great people and both. busy of them and this whole thing that the other is always more noble. i like the fact that you're picking and choosing from all over the planet because they think it all set people straight on. yeah. there's great people from everywhere, there's drips to let's, let's see, their worst people let's see are. 1 percent, a 100 percent, you can be more correct. and you know, i, i see that there's, there's all kinds of things that the americans are leading in different subjects or whatever. maybe you'll be city and things like this where they're like, we have problems. we have this, well, i know for a fact that there's different levels of o, b, c, and every country in different levels of every country. you know, it's not just american, it bothers being the only american, not that it's not just that it's, it's everywhere. so we all are and i'm intrigued, i remember taking my kids once

t j when they were young, we went up to the bay area for the games. yeah, we were big. what was a then the strong travis pastrana, travis pastrana fat. and i didn't know is a kid, i mean that sounds funny for me to say a sad, but i remember i took my boys up and eminem was there. and i am. and i'm, it seems like he had some sort of grew up. but at that point it was just all rough stuff and they said over there you wanna meet them as i'd rather be travis, restrung. now this kid was so beautiful. yeah, i know you're b m x and he was the motor bite, but he was the state of the art. he was the 1st can i ever say came off the handlebars and did the superman fly and then at the end that 31 he dumped it in the bay memory just dumped his bike which blew my mind. it was so cool. and i remember

walking away from the x games and events like here be next thinking. ok. i didn't know what this is quite a bad. i didn't know if it was just kids play at hokey or you know, their noses. the a thoughts i find there was beautiful, it was hard work. it was a way of life for them. i was blown away, brother, it was, it was an invigorating world. thank you sir. yeah, i, one that you're actually on is that i want i want to so and i want to san diego and then 7. well i was very brother, i probably because that wasn't the only event i saw. i saw other events. it was such a great experience and i remember being there in a yellow jump to yellow just before yellow, everything it was crazy like it was, it was something that, you know, the, the hope the i'm ex motorcraft, the re, friends we, we all have such

a respect for each other because every run right, so everybody knows that everybody knows. busy that one head injury anyway or, or whatever from the, paralyzed from the neck down, like multiple friends with that. and i have friends to see that, you know, they kill themselves and it's crazy like so there's just a lot of respect between the athletes nowadays. and then as well, because it's such a dangerous hobby and or profession, you know, i think travis must be 14 at that point. what you're probably, where are you 2018. where were you at when you want to just go i had to be that was 996 points 2 years ago. so 22 to judge you had, i know you've obviously had some crash ups in training for those folks. think about it to train, you gotta fall,

so i know you must have and why you hadn't had the cataclysmic ones though that came later had you at that point. now, once i hit 30, all the bone started breaking like crazy. it was really rough. i broke my wrist before i was 36 times 3 and 3 and you think like, you never learned but, but i just, it was just 6 weeks out. you know, it's no big deal done. it's supposed to be a week, but you can cut them off and take no worries when you send it. but at the time when i turn 30, just started going downhill for a crash and i haven't broken leg i, i did come with the bones in the window and then and then another time i had a head injury and bashed my face had a broken orbital and there's risk right here to play to 10 screws in it now because

i put it out stop by to stop the hall. and when i did that, i state my own life, which is great. so that doesn't happen. yeah, you know, it's like you look at things like that you like him do like that's normally. so you, you tend to check yourself a little bit when you're over 30 and you're like, you have a lot more like like this is a long, long go. you know, not funny. to 20 years old. you think you're going to live forever. then later on you qualify it and you're the 40 to go. well, i hope i get 90. you know, start to dial it in, but that's the nature life. i look back on for stronger, he might have a kid that i don't know where he's at. you say your friends. yeah. he might look at his kid or him. i don't know what to say. and at that point he was a young pharaoh. he was like a god man, he came off those things in years. i remember sitting there. that is one of the

most amazing things i've ever seen. and it's tough to grab a kid at that age and say, are you worried about getting hurt? they're not. i mean it's just the circle of life. yeah, none of us were men. it was crazy. like, being hurt was so far away from my mind. it was crazy. and when it crept. yeah. yeah. then it seems inevitable. i remember when i tried to start skiing later in life, i remember i thought this is something you got to start early because i skied like a 44 year old breadwinner. i looked down the hill at all. i saw a bunch of reasons that i wouldn't be able to tell chokes treatment. and i remember, and i walked out and i learned this of 12. i'm not gonna learn this now. and of somewhere attraction or worse for the next year. anyway, were talking to our friend t j. ivan and the show is the challenge spies lies and allies. we're going to dial

in on this season. we've got the meta view of the challenge. it's 7 pm central, or mtv and 8 pm. and the other time zones, and that's wednesdays. 8 pm, 7 pm central, and mtv will dial it in and talking about this season on the challenge. it's 37. it's called spies lies and allies, the sheer teacher lab right after this dennisville are plus one me. i can't rec, drugs are essential for millions of patients or are they, they want that pill that they hope will take care of their problem thoroughly and rapidly in the short term they really work. the problem is, in a long term, they're mostly disastrous. suddenly stopping a drug can cause withdrawal symptoms more serious than the condition it was meant to treat instead of beneficial effects of these different medicines ending up to something wonderful. very often they're harmful effects and up to something

terrible. can pills so of all ills? or are we trying to mitigate life itself? i just think i was like i was just scared, scared, little girl of 24. and like, didn't have to be so complicated. look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings. accept where's the shorter the conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. the point obviously is to great truck rather than fear take on various jobs with the artificial intelligence real summoning the theme and a robot must protect his phone existence with exist.

hey folks. welcome back to dennis miller plus one, joined by immense t j lab on the show professional b. m x rider. and i would remind you twice one the x games in his event, that no small feat folks, every, every kid there was not only fearless but talented out. it's god bless that, he has that in his memory bank. and now he's a reality show host he, there's 37 seasons of the challenge. right now. he gets in a little later than that and they don't run crunch and you know, every year it's not like, you know, it's no country for old men here. but 37 seasons and my man is right at the center of at the new season is entitled the challenge spies live and allies in that area. wednesdays 8 pm, 7 pm central on mtv. how long if they've been going to the theme t j or was it always just called the challenge then with an addendum or did that

come later? and what's the one mean? not exactly, i mean women on the 30th call 3030. and when it's been a different, different situation is the island or whatever, but the challenge, the i'm or something like that. and then so the challenges renovated as the real role rules because it was real kids don't. again, that's what i remember. that's when i remember that went out and gave me about that and he was this, he was the house that time. and i just need to i just remember the old school tv and i was like and all you guys around there? yeah, i do think and then. busy and then carson daly was like, god was like, yeah and, and i just remember those days then i just can't believe that the guy on them like

it's so weird to me. and i almost like feel like i'm manifested like i really wanted to be that guy and mtv. and now i'm that i'm and it's so cool it, it is, it really isn't. and like, you know, like usually when, when did get to be on tv or do things or whatever. i don't think they appreciated as much as i like because i'm so thankful to be that do that. i know where it was and i don't and stuff like that. i know the crashes and all the stuff that get it. yeah. so here who were on that now here, just filming in saying i can't believe so. i'm just like, i'm blown away. and then 27 years later and i'm still going strong and it's great, you know, it's just like. busy mtv people couldn't have been sweeter to me and they're,

they're cooler. judy mcgrath was her name, her name just popped into my head. she is derived over there and she was called them. and when you say dave mirror, i get such a small my face. i haven't thought it a long time. i remember that whole era and my kid was in to be, i'm john and i remember every time we went past the big mouth like up in sun valley, the slope. i forget the cat's 1st name like kid would look at me go. you think bender could come down or do you remember that kevin vendors, vendor yeah, there was a bike rider, a vendor, and my kid, his whole point of reference was, could vendor come down there? and it was, it was such a part. it was like a whole introduction of a whole nother world of sports to a whole different generation and look at the legs that has the game world, the it's its own thing and now it's getting america status. it's getting old and in trends. it's funny, isn't it? yes, crazy, i mean, now we have a lympics as well,

so it's like elliptic ghastly friends. so we and, and to things like, you know, it just is running a little there by now inside yard. and that is weird to me. some of the events are getting a little to where does watch and bit of the lympics this year. and i, i think one of the events now is tying together a parent tennis shoes and throwing them over a telephone line. i think that might be one of the things that was a new event this year to j. tell me about spies lives with lives. what's the theme there? you talk about the island. you talk about 30 for 30. what's this one little more conspiratorial? what's the title? denote yeah, this one is, this one go about like being secret agent. so they're going to be agents and then basically you're, you're making, you know, deals and things like that with everybody, everybody out there, you know their lives and they make their making the or whatever. but i'm known as

the handler for them. so i'm giving them missions to do different missions and say ok, you could go to this for, you know, they're, they're all trying to become safe from elimination. the only way to do that is by winning daily style. and so it's a really cool thing to. busy to, to win and be there, and just, you know, you're showing for another week, you know, so it's, it's awesome. especially if you get paid by the week. melissa, you watch some of these games. these are reality shows over the years, and there's always somebody who is posited as the villain. remember that cat named park and the real real world and then oh yeah, it was jotting, fair play over on survivor. and then as i was reading the notes on this, but it seems like we actually did come across the guy who's ethics were us. the, when those who is the scattered, screwed is part of the bread that unbelief that

we are not. his name is johnny bananas. legend in our world, he actually won 7 seasons of jones did say, and now you start to get a little bit of a competition from our friends. he was another guy and he was punching a cement wall. i believe in one of his real world, days. back in france or something, but yeah, so he didn't know you thought it was just like a particle or. busy something so some of those days are over but, but that he's kind individual now but, but he definitely really good and he's causing it on the way he can. he can get up there sometime in the awesome to have those to come out and listen. i don't understand the pay out the hottest bananas end up being able to take his partner's

half of the winnings. cut left. right. yeah. because often because he gay more point bible challenge. so he was in charge of govern the law. yeah, it's crazy, but it's something that, that i was totally blown away and then just completely baffled. that's how that happened. and some of you have to do that like that is crazy. all right, we're talking to t j 11 folks in the show is the challenge now and it's 37th season over there on mtv wednesdays. 8 pm, 7 pm central. notice that i remember watching jo ages ago, rogan, he was hosting that show where you live centipede and now he's a huge player in the national dialogue. what do you see down the road brothers? yeah, i don't mean you want to echo his notes. no, you got your own thing,

but where do you see it going from here? what would you like to do right this until they turn the lights out. right? yeah, i have no idea to be honest with you. i like never my life. as i said, okay, i'm going to go, no, i'm going to go to that. it's just, it's just been one awesome ride since the 14 you saw that the right and bicycle. and then that was there is no way you can make a living. you know that and then somehow i made a living at it writing bicycle. i got real good at it and then then the show came along and they were like, we need it actually. and then they got me and then it was, it just worked out one thing led to another. and now i just came and just put my head down. try to work hard to do the right thing. it's been worked out. awesome. so. busy i try not to plan too far ahead. i just do what i can to be the best

person i can and try to make everything is, is, is it goes on. i talked to steve or sometime in the last 6 months and the light bulb is so gone. i'd really still steve ho, but it's so funny to me to watch. you talk about a reformist, he still funny is still cookie, but you can see the light. what worries, brother, you got, you got to just this a little as you move down the path here. and he was so hard, it's funny. people used to just look at her and think, oh, he's the guy who put fish food on his general horse and let the cuttlefish into the bag. now he's good enough. listen to me and be god. he was so wise about certain things. i said this is so trippy to watch become the wiser older. do you know me across this path? you ever never talk shop with them cross path here and there we, we definitely cross circles with the stuff and then. busy

stuff, but we never hung up, you know, i never hung in back in the day like real, real credit, the party animal stuff like that. and i don't even drink like i never even got never got it. i never did the drug. i was just born super square and just riding and just love and so i don't want to do anything that would curve that from writing the next day. no brother, what a blessing for your parents. i'm telling you what. what if you listen b m x is dangerous. when your kid comes in and says, listen, i'm going to take something up where i'm at least hanging onto the handlebars as opposed to i don't got anything in my life and i'm going out with a friend and i'm getting going to get loaded to hear you say you never got i because right and was your high. what a beautiful thing for you. i'm telling you when your parents got a loaded night they was there was the happiest person that their kid had taken up.

one of the world's most dangerous for my dad was like, you know, t j. i don't want to play football. he's like, i don't want you to hurt me. all right, so they had took up the most dangerous sport. there is no, you see him in your wrists are accordions, well dad, i never took up football, but look at my poor limbs. brother, it is a delight to meet you. you got kids now they riding a bike. so where are you at life? you've got a family, know i have a wife and i have a daughter i adopted when she was from i got from my wife and now she's 20 to killing it. and she's a hair. las vegas and at a place called square which is like the high and cool hair place. it didn't help her at all that job or to the school or anything she did all of that. her cell.

busy so we very there, i love it. what's, what's her name? her name is raquel rick square, folks, if you're out. yes. and you need a nice quarter get over there and sir, and raquel out. and that is awesome. all right, well we've met her daddy and he's a cool cat, t j. i can see why they kept your brother, your good people and your good hang. and you got the bonafide from log and all the time. so you guys, the kids give you properties because you walk on a road the road at some point and now you're the, the wise old host over there, season 37 to the challenge folks. and the new ones called lise give it to me by dr. them allies, there you go. who knows better than the thanks for your time brother. good to talk to you. then. thank you very much. all right,

later. good. t j la. dennis miller plus was the the, the, the the families that up with the mark. sounds good, i took market function, you would like to get some idea of who definition me number the whole do y'all done? got, i've got that limit and i wanted them to go

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