if you disagree with that scene, the mob will be asked you, but what is important is to hold people to account. so it's not good enough just to say will someone's versus something, it must be true. increasingly, we have to drop down, find out what are the sources, what's the evidence for decline? they talk and leave it. that might suggest something different. we need to examine this rather than just accept everything at face value. gauging and politics can make acid society better. then we can find ways to improve things. and instead, what we've got the focus is on changing the representations, changing, pictures, changing statues, changing the curriculum, changing the historical narrative is sort of everybody's story, is treated as equally valid and constantly changing. then we actually lack capacity to take a long view back and project wrong view. food becomes much smaller, it shrinks and that's not healthy for any kind of didn't democratic society allows

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like this with his muddy boot and you know, flicking mud all over the floor. and he just like he was king of the world wanting thought he was aggressive even at that time as far as as how he was we handled himself kind of, he got that feeling that he was searching for a criminal and that's when he told me that my son was a drug dealer you you're here for next semester and she kind of told us that he wasn't just using marijuana that he was actually selling it on campus. and he had a felony against him and they haven't charged him with it yet. but he was

pending to all these deliveries and they took place on campus both on their hands. so they're crossing on. and then he told us that andrew was a competent, short form. it asked for you to do is to do some buyers for me that were you have to wear away or you have to go buy marijuana. i didn't even know what that was and i had no idea what he was. even talking about what that meant. me each individual we do, we have do 2 deals. okay, so you have to thinking, well, this is susan answering how can he, how can this talking about the same guy? i mean, just the agent, whoever told us that they believed, or he believed that he, andrew was on the run because he had to make these buys by may 1st and he only done

half of them. you don't check with me if i lose contact with you. i'm just going to assume that you don't want to work anymore in that i'm just the warrants or your us and then in jail. so i was just blown away. i mean, here my fun is missing and, and now they tell me he's a drug dealer, or i maybe got about them. it makes sense to me. but none of that made sense. nothing made sense. i mean, tammy is didn't know what to do. i mean, as far as what even to believe really and and where to turn in. and then sergeant helgren's son wanted us to do a press conference. we love you and we want you. we need to,

to come home. everything will be okay. we pleaded for andrew on the news conferenced to come in like they wanted us to have him turn himself in. we love you and we want you home with us. everything will be okay. mm. i frankly not recall the ride or anything. cuz you know, we up and left and i was kind of in freefall, it just seemed like it was snowballing rapidly. ah, everything seemed to be fine. i mean, there were no red flags name, nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us as law enforcement it's i mean the use

the in the school there are vigil. father students put together and they asked me to talk eric and i said some words for a little speech begun farm to come home like if you are in trouble or just come home, we want to help your friends. most of the electrical programs there as far as the faculty and students, you know, people are pretty generous and they're going to give up their time and they're gonna, they're going to form these search parties and they're going to go, you know, scour wherever law enforcement has identified us as potential places to walk me. oh, the campus police are obviously having to go back to class. they basically turn to

say where you don't want anymore. students going missing? i was like, what makes no sense? is there a black hole? the trees somewhere they didn't tell anybody about it and people were falling into it. me. we went just to places that we had gone when we got to go cruising or something always smell, can we drive down all the roads? we go and put our heads together and try our hardest to find something, get some sort of clue as to what happened or where he was or, and what was going on. but he didn't come up with anything and started to seem like there was something else going on. and we learned that the college police department was the ones investigating this situation by campus. police are supposed to make sure that you behave, make sure you're following the rules of the campus. you snuck barony room,

look out for the campus, please. that's their job. the campus police should have turned the situation over to another agency immediately. they just don't have the experience and training necessary to deal with the situation. i address static n d f. the student that disappeared on may 1st last seen leaving is dharm at the campus of the article to state college sciences parents are john and tammy tammy. good to have you. i news in the morning give me an evaluation of where this search for andrew is that basically don cole, with the, as far as the campus police are concerned. and we're, we're not going to stop looking for a living else in the living. hell. and why is the funds that are other

so it's, it's really a bad time a year and now he's gone to how do you feel that the state college of science has been in dealing with this situation? to me, it seems like they're not doing anything. answers case just made me feel frustrated, but once you start hearing the other stations are having just as much difficulty getting basic answers you realize there's something more going on people were just trying to come up with theories and i think that's natural when you don't have a lot of answers you want to find something. me i would say probably after the 2nd week started having some notes about how tall it is and on be in take care of their investigative skills,

were pretty limited as science. when i could see, you know, we thought that they were probably doing the best they could. i don't know. i guess they didn't seem to frantic about trying to find him, i guess. but i asked him if they had checked if any of the other surveillance stuff in town and all as far as seeing him, andrew, are seeing a movement as his car moved. you know, i said, well, did you check with the train and the and tax season and any of that stuff? it is handy. gotten any about and checked in fargo. if any, anybody's seen him there or anything like that. oh no, that's a good idea. i think it was just i don't know what they were doing. i mean the other than waiting for a phone call, i guess i don't understand what you're doing. this went on for i say, weeks and not the trash news today. folks in

the andrew static case, the young man we've all been searching for since he went missing on may 1st. and now warrant has been issued for andrew's arrest. static is wanted on drug charges details, and these charges are still emerging. but andrew was allegedly caught selling marijuana on 2 occasions on april, 4th, and april 9th, 2013. 1 sale was for 20 bucks. the other was for $60.00. i was like, are you kidding me? all of this for $80.00 worth of part. my fun is missing for $80.00 for it's a part i was wild wild show me a campus where you cannot find $80.00 worth of time. me. i remember waking

up the news that he had been charged. i'll say what? because this was this. even the thing they can do, like this is completely or trying your friend home. and now you're going to throw some kind of bogus charge. yeah. like i had not put it together at all. how does warm does happen now that have gone missing? what crime did you commit? where did they see him? what? like, how to, why is that happening now? so i knew it was everything was a confusing a little mess for a while. they're like that whole month was the most confusing thing ever happened. the end of the file in the war and i think on monday and they thought the other police have to get involved you know, just kind of everybody's looking for them. then i think that was the reasoning for filing the charges. so that kinda shut down the publics and willingness to help. nobody wants to look for

a drug dealer. my own mother to this day, believe that andrew was a drug dealer. anybody that knew him knew there was more to the story. i assume that, you know, he just took off and this is just more than he could handle. but at the same time i, i had this idea that yeah, but where's, where's it going? where do you, where's it going to go on me? you're going to check with the original often that we see that if you don't check with me and contact with you, i'm just gonna assume that you don't want to work anymore and that i'm just going to warranty me. i was having a panic here,

sitting in the pedicure chair with my feet in the water and sargent ferguson called he said, what are you doing? and i said, i'm having a pedicure and he goes, are you alone? and i'm like, no the gals here, you know what he goes. whereas john and i said, he's on a fishing to get him home. me. i was actually fishing with my buddies. just can i get a weekend away? ah, tammy had called me that they had found a body in the river and washington and i knew it was, and i, i just got to the house and of course were waiting. the sheriff showed up with tammy's pastor and told me that it was andrew

ah, the who's long when i would say wrong. why don't just don't the road? yes. to shape out the thing because the after an engagement equals the trail.

when so many find themselves, well the part we choose to look for common ground in ah, no, it's like whereas the, you know, it's all different. so when you finally, when they finally found the body and i knew that he was dead, and i remember just like i couldn't keep my eyes drive because this is just like reality. i know me is tough to i mean, deep down kind of knew it has been a long time. he just didn't want to accept philip snack in the face. ah,

ah, ah, me surgeon how hinson called us. i grad john. every time he spoke, it was something new and bizarre. he said andrew was shot in the head and he had a backpack or rocks tied to them. that's when he told us over the phone. he believed there was a suicide. he was just waiting on the coroner,

and once he found the gun, he would be confirmed that it was a suicide. me. so the 1st day i'm at tammy. she decided i'm gonna talk to the news. so i walked and i didn't know what to expect. you know what i mean, we had heard about what was happening, but i didn't know i was just walking into this. and tammy said, my son was killed and i had to call my producers like, hey, this is actually your story today. i know you just wanted me to get a sound bite here, but this is your story. she says her son was killed me. andrew sonics, mom tammy sat. i spoke at a local radio station today saying she believe her son was murdered. we discovered that when andrew was found on june 27th, he wasn't wearing the same clothes he might missing and cameras. in his dorm caught

this footage. he was last seen wearing this sweat shirt. but one is body was found . he was wearing a different jacket. ah, he was shot in the head, his backpack was weighted down and he was thrown in the river. the backpack or rocks, was kind of the kicker for me. and like if you're going kill yourself, he can do that anywhere. why would you need to make your body disappear? who, who andrew was shot with a 22. andrew went into the red river and he came up on the minnesota side of the regiment between him leaving that dorm. and when he was shot, there was a change of clothes, there were rocks in the backpack for me personally. andrew was murdered, makes more sense than what the cops could come up with. and all they could come up

with is a suicide. like wow, that's it guys got rocks in his backpack tied to his body. that doesn't sound like a suicide. that sounds like murder one on one. in this developing story, tammy static is fighting back tears as she talks about not having answers in her son's death or just really hasn't been any effort to keep this family updated. the static family is bringing their own attorneys to the fight and now they want the f b i to investigate. i think people knew it was a major story right away. when that happened, people knew something was going on. that just doesn't happen. a rural college student does interest get shot in the head and found in a river like that. something else had to be happening. they're not going to do their job to let the f b. i get involved. somebody that can look at this case, fresh without the suicide, in the back of their minds planted by the campus police and everything. i want them

to look at the whole case objectively. when i met tammy that day and had a personal conversation with tammy, i thought ok, we have the power of journalism. we have the power of finding public records. we have the power of being able to hold those who are paid by tax dollars accountable . ah, talk is actually have a lot of questions and can't seem to figure out where to get the answers. do you know where she should be looking? no, i really don't know where, where she should be looking on on that. it. i think a lot of people have a lot of question the understand the investigative process. you just really have to look at the timeline of events that took place when andrew was reported missing on

. i believe those may 2nd the campus police at the dfcs were the lead investigators, by june, shortly before andras body was found. there were, i would say 3 or 4 different law enforcement agencies that were involved. but it was really still to this point, hard to tell who was actually in charge, who was actually doing anything ah, the investigation was turned over to the b. c. a in minnesota. but in dfcs was originally investigating the north dakota agee's office and b, c. i. in their report said it was a minnesota b c, a case to be ca said that's not true. they have nothing to do with it. i was furious. sangree at the way everything was be presented from start to finish. the way the police were handling it from pretty much de one and a static death investigation is being handled by campus police. the minnesota

police are not working with the campus. police cops aren't sharing information. i was absolutely delight away. very lay way of putting in the f. b. i's response was essentially that they weren't asked by local law enforcement to be involved unless they were asked by law enforcement to get involved. there was no reason for them to get involved at that point. all due respect to the campus, police, you know, they've got a job to do. and it is not in gating, a potential murder. i remember asking this school official, do you feel like you're in over your head? and i don't really remember his response, so that time i don't know if he had a response or not, but that was one of the last times we ever got to talk to a school official about the case. no one wanted responsibility. and so if you

didn't want responsibility in the front end by doing anything on the backend, you were taking responsibility. and so there it was much easier to use the narrative of. he took his own life because then he was responsible the police came here. oh, i can't remember how long after his body was fond. it was a while low and basically told us the progress or lack of progress that they were at what stage the investigation was. we didn't know all the particulars. they didn't tell us all the evidence of what was going on, but they were telling us everything i

. we were at that time just trying to find anything, any document or any video they had. tammy had told us that they had a cell phone. tammy told us that laptops, things like that, so we were asking, okay, did you find information on his laptop? could we get a copy of that or do you have video documentation of him being interviewed today? why didn't know what i was expecting, but when i 1st pressed play, almost felt wrong watching him today. jason webber, which ah, yeah. it was just like you could enact me over with a feather really november 22nd thing is 20th birthday. it starts off with smart alec comment

that you don't want to spend your birthday here. well, you expressed interest. they probably want to, oh, okay. like i said, you're facing 2 felonies and then course and this meter church from yesterday. it's a 25 minute video. it took me probably a week to get through it. that's probably not a way to start out here. young adult placement. right? so the police came in and destroyed is for why the this is a kid to college. so i mean that the got me and it inspired me to really look at the case. but look at the case, i'm not looking to hang the police or anybody. i'm looking at the facts. i saw the fact i was scandalized. i was, i have never seen anything is bad. it's good ways attacks me in the morning or the

night before we do something for tomorrow for tomorrow and then you can opt out. so for my notices of it was really simple. line them up, find criminals and get evidence, line them up line for when the rest and the conversion to inform. it's because we have or agents that i work with. we are, you know, you're not like you only see, we are working with other people and we work a big area where, who's there for one mission to get another inform and, and another arrest number. and he did the thing is the investigation. conduct justification. what did you, for instance, when you interrogated him, find out what his source was? could it be that you didn't do it? because if you questions too much,

you'd find out that it was one of the other informants who gave it to you. and if that's the case, you understand, you committed a felony, you the police office. if that's the case, just like in your situation, you have no clue who probably around you all, you know when this out. ok. you probably maybe try to think of ideas and stuff, but i'm not going to tell you if you have informa giving to subject subject gives is to inform it to was the investigation. you the guy in charge of informers. you created the crime and that's it. the perfect frames. oh, i

remember that we're in the middle of an opioid. epic heretic opioid epidemic. and the 1st thing i see is they haven't made one or be able to rest, not one on no wonder you didn't tell me. or tell anyone. oh, me. the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time. time to sit down and talk

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