the, the crew, gavin's food, and water, and food to check those for later on the little thing is got everybody locked down or no more? no food. no. what about the really i'm not sure. somebody either stuck in the coven. you're living like the female of own, but in the 21st century the you're saying that you're still with me as a confidential informant. anything that you try to pick apart everything that he did for the

a year. and you just like hide who, i don't know, it's tough on the text message. all this friends, not we all sort even through all of this. so he could have like he wants reading and but he didn't understand that you please as one way or whatever's behavior from the video is very concerning. but before i talk about that, go back the day before me where officer webber went to andrew statics, dorm room. and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew. the threat

being, you're in trouble. you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings selling marijuana to 2 different confidential informants. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. whoever said you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and i'll help make some of this. go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you can't tell your roommate. you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just need to come and talk to me and this to work. nobody can know about this. the, potentially, the max is 40 years in prison, 40 years. and obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but the

good possibility that you're going to perform present time, if you don't is inserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that amount. most likely with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can't imagine what your andrew was thinking and his situation sitting with this guy who we thought was probably just going to be just like a slap on the wrist meeting like a don't let us catch your screw up again. and then all of a sudden this guy's like, yeah, you got to work with us or you're going to face 40 years will crush your whole life . if we have to, like i

it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of it happening and watched it happen and able to see the body language and the reactions that take place between the individuals. and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death for you to do news and buys for me that were you have to wear away, or you have to go buy marijuana from individuals and, you know, depending upon how you do and so forth, you know, a lot of this could go away, you know, are you, andrew was under intense pressure and he was terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or anybody, anything other than marijuana and i think the contact intensifies and then i think

they give them deadlines to do more just to people to get the you know, the levels though i think whatever it was a bowie, and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static. can you check any call? the text message works just fine. when you're sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state and you're going to send him after these drug lords. to me that was the worst part about in november of 2013 until may of 2014. there were 3, buys that andrew dead under the direction of officer webber. ah

ah. after those 3 buys levers still wanted one more. that would have been sometime in early 2014. ah ah. ah. really, there was very little communication from january to april. i had to wait on him. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming a confidential informant and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that

once an individual is approached and brought into that situation, it will change them forever. in i don't know what was going on and, and his mind, i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper. find someone else i don't down trade, but in the form that you want to get all the charges. well, you've got to give me somebody digger then you. ah, there was a point around april 15th, that there was no more communication. and that's a real red flag. there were a red flag name, nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us is law enforcement. red flag

named nothing. why wasn't jason webber and contact with andrew static every day? why didn't he know where he was at all times? and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring him in? bring the charges because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation to go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic. don't about if you want me to try to get what you normally i want to know who jason wherever worked for, because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically play off andrew's worst fears. and that was simply tonight's point of view topic. what is sanker,

and are they to blame for the death of andrew sac or lose weak cammie static andrews, mom blamed them go for her son's death. shameka just to be clear, stands for the se, multi county agency, narcotics task force, essentially. they can be perceived as a local drug and force agency. down in richland county, sam can operate as their own entity, with their own board of directors, and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. the one thing that we found really odd is that one of the sergeant's at the campus police station was on the board of some cob. this are you listed all the one drug task force board member n d s c. as police sergeant steve helga said sergeant, how good son was on the some come board. yeah.

yeah. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest. 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was and what he was doing. they shouldn't have been investigating that. talking to me when you started there, why and why when he talked with me. then we had a reporter. he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off. you're no longer any renewal started. ah, there shoddy investigated, work was terrible. but again, it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some officers onto their campus,

not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some excess is due to money from the federal government. they're dealing and small level crimes like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrest that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point. as my little brother was actually going to in dfcs at the same time as andrew, and lived in the same dorm at the same time. there is no drug problem, and we'll pretend it's fabricated. i would say that they're targeting people that they know are going to have a little bit a pot here, and they're the numbers that they use. mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level . it tells you that they've bastardize the war drugs in federal

funding for their own benefit. the purpose of federal funding and the purpose of these standards is to investigate is to dean this male big organizations dangerous organizations for killers, real killed the annual sat, excuse me. the the media, a reflection of reality in a world transformed what will make you feel safer. type relation to community. are you going the right way or are you being

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that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are together in the news me. this is the video tape deposition of steve help us and take him out of the plaintiff in the matter of john and tammy said at 1st jason webber at all. would you please greg? here again, your family for the testimony are about to give me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i do say your name. steven alderson.

me morning officer webber. morning. we've never met prior to say who the family wanted to bring a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance and death of andrew. ah, where does the funding come 1st? there are 2 different grants. are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in? so not at the time of the the, the grant application of the statistics, common quarterly reports that go on, i burned j grabbed better website, and those are reported. we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence, so essentially, the mis handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also,

we have the ledge, fraud and deceit. in other words, they misled andrew in to getting involved in his role as a confidential informant, which we believe led to his death. ah, are there any other specific courses you can point me to even are professors you've been trained on strictly confidential form. and so i have no me one point the or if your department was a part of the program i saw them or yes. so through the time the salvage went missing, you were still a board member of them. yes. privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing what such as the sea ice was there would be aligned across the sheet that would say in dfcs case and what

the drug was that they were working on. but that was, it was a number system. we didn't know that people were neither the agent nor the so up until actually 2016. the state college of science was involved in the task force. correct me when were you informed of control buys being performed on campus for which andrew sat, it was a target look day that he went missing or that night when we 1st made aware of that. and he said it was acting as a confidential informant point. right. with them on that moment. prior to that

on march 10, 2014. recently under attacks that are you still alive? so remember that bill to do you have any concerns about him? i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for a while. i didn't have any concerns. i just asked just a figure to speech. april 17 2014. you gave me a deadline of may 1 to complete another bio truck. why the may 1st deadline? because at that point he was on the freshman that he's gonna be graduating from school and he will be leaving the office in area and it would be difficult for him to complete what he needs to complete traveling back there was may a one andrew, i listen i believe so. i know who steve, how the scenario was he involved in the andrew septic handling. so

he would have never participated on our deals. was he aware that the consent search was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall that sometimes we, you know, if we go into the jury, different jurisdictions, sometimes we will notify the sheriff of police or, you know, if it's on campus steve, typically these individuals don't want to know what we're doing and south. and steve's a big one for that, he's never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what is the extent of the relation ship between some campus place now? not existing. i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. it could be and i wouldn't have any idea at all if you had known that andrew said it or any other student at the school of science was acting as

a confidential informant, or were the target of a bi from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student try this or me? [000:00:00;00] i want to tell me exactly what they were doing with andrew up until that

point, if they're, if they had him under so much pressure, letty actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with him. the truth. i'd like the truth. oh, campus police asked me if i had a gun mrs. in a dr. andrew might had one. and so then he, i checked my guns and yeah, it was just missing from them from the garage. oh, he ran through my mind. can't see this didn't oh for him to do it without leaving

a note or something. let us think by due us i do not believe that for 2nd or the question that we may never have truthfully answered. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber. me see where you can get lined up. and then the biggest thing was he being asked by something more than marijuana was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know and never interacted with to buy whether it was pots or something else. i take it, he wasn't, i'm selling hot. i wouldn't think that that would lead to a bullet, but whatever it was, i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than anybody. and

he had expected or that he trapped to not do scared me ended up in there. i have a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the static family and then the people that support the static family don't really care whether he wish murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 things. what happened in the end, the narrative that got us to the end should never have happened. and so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide and that was not any saying that andrew dead without somebody pushing them

towards. ready the door having those guys around and i value the fact that they have that much respect to come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them. girl, we're not sure really what to do with the farm. we want to keep it in the main buy that's going to be pretty hard to do. now. i was expanding at the time of andrew, the house i was just was renting some more past year and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death,

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