in general, number of arrests were made. the demonstrators are against me to jobs the under 16 . we discussed the issue with former west midlands m. e p. if it were improving competence would be no forgivable because they're supposed to be governing the country. but it might be apps understandable, it's not a matter of competency. my view is a matter of the state seizing powers that should belong to individuals and families . that since the whole situation began with been condition to accept locked downs, we've been conditioned to accept that if you wish to maintain personal freedom, you're somehow selfish so many things that they're forcing on people through fear, through propaganda and fear. and it's tough for people to have a look at the reality of the situation and make their own decision not before to come to anything. because it's not good buy from us. hey, i must get this out, but we hope to see you again. so you have a great day. mm. ah,

join me every thursday on the alex simon show. when i was speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then in the moon with a confidential informant. anything that you try to pick apart everything that he did for the a year and you just like who i don't know, it's tough on the text message. all of his friends, not we all sort even through all of this. so he could have and like he wants

meeting and but he didn't understand that you had that as a confidential one weapon behavior from the video is very concerning. but before i talk about that, go back the day before me where officer webber went to android statics, dorm rooms, and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew, the threatening you're in trouble. you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings selling marijuana to 2 different

confidential informants. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. wherever said, you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and i'll help make some of this. go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you cancel your roommate, you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just need to come and talk to me and this to work. nobody can know about this. the, potentially, the max is 40 years in prison, 40 years. obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but the good possibility that you're going to get perfect, present time, if you don't is asserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different

confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that amount, most likely with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can't imagine what andrew was thinking in his situation, sitting with this guy who he thought was probably just going to be just like a slap on the wrist meeting like don't let us catch your screw up again. and then all of a sudden this guy's like, yeah, you got to work with us or you're going to face 40 years will crush your whole life . if we have to like me the it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of it happening and watched it happen. and able to see the body language and the reactions that take

place between the individuals. and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death for years, do use buyers for me that were you have to wear away or you have to go buy marijuana from individuals and, you know, depend upon how you do and so forth. you know, a lot of this could go away, you know, are you, andrew was under intense pressure. and he was terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or anybody, anything other than marijuana and i think the contact intensifies and then i think they give them deadlines to do more just to people to get the you know, the felony levels though i think whatever it was a bowie, and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static.

can you check any call? the text message works just fine. when you're sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state. and you're going to send him after these drug lords. to me that was the worst part about on the news from november of 2013 until may of 2014. there were 3. buys that andrew dead under the direction of officer webber. ah, ah, after those 3 buys lever still wanted one more? now that would have been sometime in early 2014 in

june. ah ah, really, it was very little communication from january to april. i had to wait on him. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming a confidential informant and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that once an individual is approached and brought into that situation, it will change them forever. in,

i don't know what was going on and, and his mind, i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper. find someone else i don't down trade, but if you want to get all the charges, well you've got to give me somebody bigger than you. ah, there was a point around april 15th that there was no more communication. and that's a real red flag in there were in a red flag name. nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us is law enforcement may red flags mean nothing. why wasn't jason webber and contact with andrew static every day?

why didn't he know where he was? at all times, and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring him in, bring the charges because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation to go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic. know about if you want me to answer anything, try to get what you normally i want to know who jason wherever work for, because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically play off andrew's worst fears. and that was simply tonight's point of view topic. what is sanker, and are they to blame for the death of andrew santa maria week tammy static and his mom blamed them go for her son's death. shameka just to be clear, stands for the south, east multi county agency,

narcotics task force. essentially. they can be perceived as a local drug and fours agency. down in richland county sim car operates as their own entity, with their own board of directors and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. the one thing that we found really odd is that one of the sergeants at the campus police station was on the board of some cob. this or hewlett, at all the one drug task force board member n d s c. as police sergeant steve helga said sergeant, how good son was on the some can board. yeah. yeah. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest. a 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was and what he was doing.

they shouldn't have been investigating that. talking to me. i'm starting august. they're lying and why when he talked with him. then we had a reporter. he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off on any review and started, ah, a, their shoddy investigative work was terrible. but again, it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some cop answers on their campus, not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some exists is due to money from the federal government. they're

dealing and small level crimes like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrest that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point is let me, my little brother was actually going to in dfcs at the same time as andrew, and lived in the same dorm. at the same time. there is no drug problem and we'll pretend it's fabricated. i would say that they're targeting people that they know are going to have a little bit a pot here, and they're the numbers that they use. mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level . it tells you that they've bastardize the war drugs in federal funding for their own benefit as a purpose of federal funding. and the purpose of these standards is to investigate

is to dean this male big organizations dangerous organizations for killers, real killed the angel seka. this room the me make notes for borders and the blind number t's as emerge. we don't have authority, we go to the back seen the whole world needs to take action and be ready. people are judge. 2 crisis who we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way. but we also

know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we need together now what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time, time to sit down and talk when i would show the wrong when all just don't the rules

yesterday out the same become the attitude, an engagement equal betrayal. when so many find themselves, well, the part we choose to look for common ground in the me, this is the videotape deposition of steve help us and take them at the plaintiff in the matter of john and tammy said at 1st, jason webber at all right here i can hear family further testimony are about to give me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i do say your name, steven alderson. me morning officer webber. warning, we've never met prior to say who the family wanted to bring

a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance and death of andrew. me. where does the funding come 1st? there are 2 different grants. are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in? so not at the time of the, the, the grant application of the statistics coming and quarterly reports that go on, i burned j grabbed better website. and those are recording, we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence. so essentially, the mis handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also, we have the ledge fraud and defeat. in other words, they misled andrew in to getting involved in his role as confidential informant,

which we believe lead to his death. ah, are there any other specific courses you can point me to that even are professors you've been trained on strictly confidential form and comp? i have know me one point your your department was a part of the program. i sat on the board. yes. so for the time that and the savage, what missing you are still a board member of them. yes. they were privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing what such as the c eyes. or there would be aligned across the sheet that would say in dfcs case and what the drug was that they were working on. but that was, if it was a number system,

we didn't know the people were neither the agent nor the so up until 2016, the state college science was involved in the task force, correct me when were you informed of control buys being performed on campus for which anderson was the target look day that he went missing or that night when he 1st made aware of that and he said it was acting as a confidential informant point. right at that moment. prior to that, on march 10, 2014 we sent under a text. it said,

are you still alive? remember that bill? did you have any concerns about him? i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for a while. i didn't have any concerns. i just asked, you know, it's just a figure to speech. april 17 2014. you gave me a deadline of may 1 to complete another bio truck. why the may 1st deadline? because at that point, he was on the question that he's gonna be graduating from school and he will be leaving the office in area. and it would be difficult for him to complete what he needs explained, traveling back and forth, going to be all those may 1 andrew, i believe. so. i know who steve, how the scenario was he involved in the andrew celtic handling. so he would have never participated on our deals. was he aware that the consent search

was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall it out. sometimes we, you know, if we go to the ger different jurisdictions, sometimes we will notify the sheriff of chief police or just on campus. steve, typically these individuals don't want to know what we're doing in south. and steve's a big one for that. he never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what does the extent of the relation ship between some campus place now? not just and i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. could be and i wouldn't have any idea at all if you had known that andrew said it or any other student at the school science was acting as a confidential informant, or were the target of a by, from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student

or me? i want him to tell me exactly each what they were doing with andrew up until that point, if they're, if they had him under so much pressure that he actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with him. the truth. i'd like the

truth. oh, campus police asked me if i had a gun missing and they got that andrew might had one. and so then i checked my guns and yeah, there was a crystal missing from them from the garage. oh, he ran through my mind. can't see this didn't oh for him to do it without leaving a note or something. letting us hang by do us. oh, i do not believe that for a 2nd or the

question that we may never have truthfully answered. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber. me see where you can get lined up. and then the biggest thing was he being asked by something more than marijuana was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know and never interacted with to buy whether it was pots or something else. i take it, he wasn't, i'm selling hot. i wouldn't think that would lead to a bullet, but whatever it was, i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than anybody. and he had expected or that he trapped to not do scared me ended up in or i have

a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the static family. and then the people that support the static family don't really care whether he wish murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 things. what happened in the end, the narrative that got us to the end should never have happened. and so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide and that was not any thing that andrew did without somebody pushing them towards the door, having those guys around. and i value the fact that they have that much respect to

come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them grow. we're not sure really what to do with the farm. we want to keep it in. the main presence can be pretty hard to do. now i was expanding at the time of andrew spouse i was just was renting some more past year and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death, i've basically just lost all my ambition. stone, have any will anymore me? [000:00:00;00] i

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