the understand that you're still with me as a confidential informant. anything that you try to pick apart everything that he did for the a year and you just like hide who i don't know. it's tough on the text message. all of his friends, not we all sort even through all of this, like he could have and like he wants reading and but he didn't understand that. you want to make sure that

whatever's behavior from the video is very concerning. but before i talk about that, go back the day before me where officer webber went to andrew statics, dorm room. and that was the 1st threat that was made to andrew. the threat being, you're in trouble, you're going to be charged with felonies. we have you on video and audio recordings selling marijuana to 2 different confidential informants. if you don't work with me, you're going to prison for 40 years. wherever said, you can come to the law enforcement center and meet with me tomorrow. and you can work with me and i'll help make some of this. go away and make the punishment a lot less. but you can't tell anybody. you can't tell your parents. you can't tell

your roommate. you can't tell your friends. you can't talk to an attorney. you just need to come and talk to me and this to work. nobody can know about this. the, actually, the max is 40 years in prison, 40 years. obviously you're probably not going to get 40 years. but the possibility that you're going to perform present time. if you don't is asserting his authority and giving andrew false information for the amount of marijuana that andrew sold to the 2 different confidential informants. there is no way that he would have gone to prison for that amount. most likely, with that at that level of the crime, you're looking at probation, maybe some community service. i can't imagine why you know andrew was thinking in his situation, sitting with this guy who we thought was probably just going to be innocent like

a slap on the wrist meeting like a don't let us catch your screw up again. and then all of a sudden this guy's like, yeah, you gotta work with us or you're going to face 40 years will cross your whole life . if we have to like me the it was one of the 1st times i've actually seen the footage of it happening and watched it happen. and able to see the body language and the reactions that take place between the individuals. and once you learn more of the background, you can understand why someone who had never really been in trouble and was only 20 and trying to get through college would be scared to death for you. do use buyers for me that were you have to wear away or you have to go buy marijuana from individuals and then, you know, depending upon how you do and so forth, you know,

a lot of this can go away, you know, are you, andrew was under intense pressure and he was terrified of the consequences. most of the time they're looking for more than pot or anybody, anything other than marijuana. and i think the contact intensifies and then i think they give them deadlines. have to do more just to people to get the, you know, the level. so i think whatever it was, a bowie. and i think that his actions caused the death of andrew static when you check any call, a text message works just fine. when you're sending andrew a boy, he's still a boy. i mean, he isn't legal to have a beer in our state, and you're going to send him after these drug lords. to me that was the worst part about all me from november of 2013.

until may of 2014. there were 3 fives that andrew did under the direction of officer webber. ah ah, after those 3 buys levers still wanted one more. now that would have been sometime in early 2014. ah ah ah, really, there was very little communication from january to april.

i had to wait on him. there are some research projects that have been done that talk about the psychology that goes along with becoming a confidential informant. and the pressures that are emotionally put on someone that once an individual is approached and brought into that situation, it will change them forever in i don't know what was going on and, and his mind, i just know that what he was probably being asked to do was to dive deeper, find someone else. i don't down trade with information you want to get all the charges. well, you've got to give me somebody bigger than you.

ah, there was a point around april 15th that there was no more communication. and that's a real red flag in there in a red flag name. nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us is law enforcement, red flag name? nothing. why wasn't jason webber and contact with andrew static every day? why didn't he know where he was at all? times and if, if andrew was not responding to officer webber, why didn't he bring him in, bring the charges because he wasn't doing what he'd been asked for this situation to go on from november of 2013 to may of 2014 is problematic

about if you want me to try to get what you normally get. i want to know who jason wherever worked for, because somebody empowered him to lie to andrew. somebody empowered him to basically play off andrew's worst fears. and that was simply a 9 point of view topic. what is sanker, and are they to blame for the death of andrew san rulers? weak cammie, static andrews mom blamed at some go for her son's death center. just to be clear, stands for the south east multi county agency and our complex task force. essentially, they could be perceived that a local drug and force agency down in richland county sim, operates has their own entity with their own board of directors, and their own oversight. investigators have permission to be on the campus, but they don't have to notify the school about who they may be investigating. the one thing that we've found really odd is that one of the sergeant at the

campus police station was on the board of some come. this are you listed all the one drug task force board member n d as c as police sergeant steve helga said sergeant, how can fun was on the some come board. yeah. yeah. ah, they should not have had that conflict of interest. a 3rd party should have been investigating what was going on if they knew who andrew was and what he was doing. they shouldn't have been investigating. talking to me and i'm starting august incident, they're lying and why? when he talked with him, then we had a reporter. he just went to the college, walked in and tried talking to him, and he got the door slammed in his face and told to turn his camera off.

sure. any renewal started. ah, there shoddy investigative work was terrible. but again, it goes back to the fact of why are they letting some officers on their campus, not knowing what they're doing. it's all money driven. the reason that some could access is due to money from the federal government. they're dealing and smaller level crimes, like marijuana buys, because it helps their numbers, the more arrest that they can make. the more charges that they can show, the more money they're going to get to keep going. so it's almost like a commissioned sales job at that point. is let me, my little brother was actually going to dfcs at the same time as andrew,

and lived in the same dorm. at the same time. there is no drug problem and we'll pretend it's fabricated. i would say that they're targeting people that they know are going to have a little bit a pot here, and they're the numbers that they use. mostly marijuana live it's misdemeanor level . it tells you that they've bastardize the war drugs in federal funding for their own benefit. the purpose of federal funding, that's not the purpose of these standards, is to investigate is to dean this male big organizations dangerous organizations for killers real killed. the angel seka this room the

who, why the make no, you know, borders and my number is emerge. we don't have authority. we go to the back seen the whole world needs to take action and be ready for people who judge no crisis. we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in your own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenges wait for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes it feel very proud that we need together. mm so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy plantation,

let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time, time to sit down and talk when i would chose the wrong. why don't i just don't. i mean, yes, to fill out the thing because after an engagement equal betrayal, when so many find themselves well, the part we choose to look for common ground in the

me. this is the videotape deposition of steve helga and take him as a plaintiff in the matter of john and tammy said x versus jason webber at all. would you please raise your hand here? family for the testimony are about to give me the truth. the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i do say your name. steven alderson. me morning officer webber. morning. we've never met prior to say who the family wanted to bring a lawsuit against anyone that was responsible for the disappearance and death of andrew. ah. where does the funding come 1st? there are 2 different grants. are they provided with the statistical information that you put together as to the number of cases you're in? so not at the time of the the,

the grant application of the statistics coming and quarterly reports that go on, i burned j grabbed better website, and those are recorded court. we were able to bring a lawsuit against jason webber for his involvement with some cut. the law suit is alleging negligence, so essentially the mis handling of andrew as a confidential informant. also, we have the ledge fraud and defeat. in other words, they misled andrew in to getting involved in his role as confidential informant, which we believe led to his death. ah, are there any other specific courses you can point me to? even our professors have been trained on strictly confidential form and comp. i have know me one point the or

if your department was a part of the program i sat on or yes. so for the time that and the salvage, when this think you were still a board member of them. yes. they were privy to cases that were operating but not who was doing what such as the sea ice, there'd be aligned across the sheet that would say in dfcs case and one the drug was that they were working on. but that was, if it was a number system, we didn't know the people were neither the agent nor the so up until actually 2016. the state college science was involved in the task force, correct me when were you informed

of control buys being performed on campus for which anderson was the target that day that he went missing or that night when he 1st made aware of that. and he said it was acting as a confidential informant point. right. with them on that moment. prior to that on march 10, 2014 was sent under attached to it said, are you still alive? remember that bill? did you have any concerns about him? i didn't. he didn't contact me or i haven't heard from him for a while. i didn't have any concerns. i just asked just figure to speech. april 17 2014. you gave me a deadline of may 1 to complete another bio truck. why the? my 1st deadline?

because at that point he was on the freshman that he's gonna be graduating from school and he will be leaving the watson area and it would be difficult for him to complete what he needs to complete traveling back there was may a one andrew, i listen. i believe so. i know who steve, how the scenario was he involved in the andrew septic handling. so he would have never participated on our deals. was he aware that the consent search was taking place? i honestly, i don't recall that sometimes we, you know, if we go to the jury, different jurisdictions, sometimes we will notify the sheriff of chief police or, you know, if it's on campus steve, typically these individuals don't want to know what we're doing and south. and steve's a big one for that he never really wanted to know what we're doing on campus. what

is the extent of the relation ship between some campus and place now? not just and i don't know if they're even working on the campus or not anymore. could be and i wouldn't have any idea at all if you had known that andrew say, dick or any other student at the school science was acting as a confidential informant, or were the target of a buy from a confidential informant? would you have done anything different towards that student try this or me? [000:00:00;00]

i went and you tell me exactly each what they were doing with andrew up until that point if they're, if they had him under so much pressure that he actually did commit suicide. i want, i want to know, i want to know what they were doing with them. the truth. i'd like the truth. oh, campus police asked me if i had

a gun missing and they got that andrew might had one. and so then i checked my guns and yeah, there was a crystal missing from them from the garage. oh, he ran through my mind. can't see this didn't oh for him to do it without leaving a note or something. let us think by do us. i do not believe that for a 2nd or the question that we may never have truthfully answered. and the only person that might know what really happened is officer webber. me see where you can get lined up. and then the biggest thing was he being asked by something more of the marijuana,

was he being asked to go to people that he didn't really know and never interacted with to buy whether it was pots or something else. i take it, he wasn't, i am showing pod, i wouldn't think that would lead to a bullet. but whatever it was, i think that he went and met up with somebody bigger and better than anybody. and he had expected or that he trapped to not do scared me ended up in there. i have a lot of people who talk to me about my involvement with the static family. and then the people that support the static family don't really care whether he wish murdered or whether he took his own life. i know that's a bad thing to say, but they don't really care because what they care about is that he was put in a position where it's one of those 2 things. what happened in the end,

the narrative that got us to the end should never have happened. and so while i believe that andrew was murdered, i don't think it should take away from the fact that if in fact he did commit suicide and that was not any thing that andrew did without somebody pushing them towards the door, having those guys around. and i value the fact that they have that much respect to come and in spend time with us because we get to watch them grow. we're not sure really what to do with the farm where we wanted to keep it in the name presence can be pretty hard to do. now. i was expanding at the time of andrew,

the athens just was renting some more past year and i was going to expand my heard building it up for for his future and stuff. and after his death, i've basically just lost all my ambition. stone. have any will any more me i me ah, ah

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