u. s. government funded is the issue of treasury bond and they pay the interest on those bonds by collecting taxes who owns most of those bonds? virtually all those bonds, the top 110th of one percent. so the government simply becomes a pastor mechanism for people to pay money from their pockets through something called taxes that are just a thickly that hides the transgression mechanism of your money through the government, into those who own these bond the with

time action returns. and you're watching, going underground back for a brand new series. as us secretary said that the blinking me to a german foreign minister i go mass to discuss the significance of nature's catastrophic defeat by the taliban in afghanistan. joining me now in the studio to discuss the future of nato so called forever was of the so called end to the usa. the longest war in history could remark the beginning of a new world order. is that injury feel make one journalist john pill, judge on thanks so much for coming back on. it's a week where the largest om square is just down the road here in london being hosted. they've been bombing syria, the israelis arm by the british b. u and the united states has been warming of gaza this week. but to afghanistan, 1st ahead of the 911 anniversary on saturday. did. did the americans in the british leave is they came killing babies? we saw the drones strike. we saw the chaos had cobble apples,

let alone this atrocity that killed scores of people, something american soldiers involved in the killing of civilians. that what, what is your take? well, the killing machine option killing machine in vietnam. they called the us military, the green machine because it was colored grain. but then they changed my se bay, those who really understand what the propaganda, how the propaganda has lied to us. so that is it's, it's basically a killing machine. i mean, you talk about down the road, there's this arms fair. when i was out in the oak, one of the missiles was an m k i t 2. that was 500 pound precision ball my post and i actually a missile. but it was fired by f. 16. i saw an afghan

stan. one of these things did to a village and to one family. the name of the woman whose family was obliterated was horrified, and she had i think, 70 in her family. her husband and 6 children were killed by one of these an 82 missiles, but it was certainly one of those way back when, in the early days of this alms fair, but is going on now that was exhibited with such pride. and in those days past the life for myself, but other journalists who one so called offense, correspondence could actually get in and see what they were actually selling.

we couldn't go there. we couldn't get no m a d to, but i mean, i have to say this program is going out in afghanistan as well as the big cost around the world. some africans, 70 percent rural, not in god. we're going to wonder, was this war, which is considered the good war by liberals, by storm or, and johnson here and by democrats and below sea, and all of that is it that they, it, british, americans are incompetent, certainly and competent, but most imperialists, ah, incompetent. they make mistakes and kill large numbers of people. they didn't mean to kill. so they say, for 20 years this for has been heading towards a foregone conclusion. hey, we had imperial powers pulling out we've had on off of afghanistan.

we've only spent what does that, you'll probably know a trade in, but it's going nowhere. anyway, we've got a new enemy on the horizon and the british ship just sent a brand new aircraft carry off to frighten this new enemy, china. so we want to switch it around there, the strategic, the strategy was at the ministry of defense. and then the pentagon in washington are writing a new scenario. it will still be about the prospect of killing people. if you look at the, the, i'd say in the, the war, gaming, china, the numbers, but they predict will be killed in either a reaction to a chinese attack because they put this, or in their own preemptive attack or in the millions. so civilian lives, whether there one family of the kind,

his atrocity and tragedy, eyesore, and i've counted, it's one family or it's millions of people. but that's imperialism. we must use that term. i feel very strongly about this. it's not an agit prompt from the sixty's. it used to be a term with great respectability unpaid, in fact, and people, people in this country fought for the reputation of being imperialist christian gentleman and going off to the empire to, to, to, to spread not only to spread the message but to spread the power of the imperial center, and that's what we've had for 20 years. and i've got on time. i reported i found this time i reported almost every war involving my own country.

britain freya, united states has been an imperial war. that is weak. that word that is use so loosely and so irresponsibly, by media, we invading somebody else's country. and of course there's a sense of reason why i mean if you take the, the reason why i watched guy news last night. and i'm sure they know worse than everybody else, but they, they talked about how 911 had its origins and planning and execution. and that's gonna say that's just not true. you know, african, this time was the fall. chi if you're like, the planning was gone in the united states and there was in the single african here

among them. they were mostly saudis. i mean all this has been as true struck from l. l consciousness day to day consciousness. but be wilful. if you can say this wilful reluctance, unwillingness, deliberate, exclusion of, of the why we actually go in to countries we thing where we are now in britain, the us in the western countries. why we do that? what we hope to gain from a 30 it is a 19 century project. we don't, we pay how much now, but we might as well. and that's where this unwillingness to appreciate and

understand recent history. but as i say, imperialism is not on that truck. it goes, it, it got a bad name in the 2nd world war because hitler was also an imperialist. but that's what i've kind of time was. that's for the vietnam was that's what iraq was. and you know, when, when you have somebody, i would call him an arch almost a character to imperialist. and tony blair, making some state my way. it is a man get his hotspur is the wrong word. whereas where does he get his arrogance from the that the power in the world that is bearing down on us again, just like it was 20 years ago. are all these bad islamic people? nothing to do with us? and when you, when you look back on what blair said at the time of,

at the time, the invasion of afghanistan, this is a moment to seize. he said, following 911, the kaleidoscope has been shaken. the pieces are in flux. soon they will settle again before they do. let us order reorder this world around us. for me, that is, one of the clearest staples of an imperialist, and other words will go into a country, will blow it all up. we'll change it all around, will undermine its culture, will pellets people and will make it a better place. when i put that to the former chief, the defense staff here and ministry of defense like one of those rare interviews a few years ago with us with, as he then was. so david richards general, so david richard, i put this to him and i actually quoted to him most famous,

con woman molla ly joya. and what she said about the railways and the west, it was in her country, and i had nothing to do with altruism. he lost his cool and, and said i was a hotel about apology for which i have to give him the credit. he vent apologize for because he is one of the martin payoff generals. but he even, even he, you, you hit a rule. no, i hit that support able come watch breaking the silence coming warren, china's regarding the future and, and the war you don't see on drum gotcha. dot com, but it has to be said to get this done is considered by liberals as the good war. as i was saying earlier, and it's repeated often live, this is the roots of this are lie in the fight with the russians who had come to

subordinate below who did such wonderful things for women schools and so on. and therefore, am i 6 and the cia had to help the major the in that would morph into the taliban into the, into our either into dice until it was a project with coal operation. cyclic. it was to destroy. it was to destroy any government that appeared or not. and couple that was progressive and one government to appear in 978, a government the p. d. p, a government. and they brought in the most extraordinary progressive government. equal rights, right across the board for women illiteracy which was then 30 percent in in, in i've kind of sound was within a decade, 90 percent. i mean, it, it's a, again,

like when i was referring earlier to, to this, this is unwillingness to learn something in the history, to answer the question you port about the good law at the time of the government, the united states. and this is, this is a li cable from the u. s. embassy and couple august, not in 79. the u. s embassy report or book the united states. larger interests will be served by the demise of the p. d. p. a government. despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in africa, no stand. in other words, rights of women can go to hell. the rights of poor people can go to hell and them, i think c a. m i 6 c i. we want this country,

we want to for various reasons. it strategically, very importantly placed the taliban in fact, far from being where 911 was plotted and planned and put together. but taliban had been a clan state of the united states. very few know that the bill clinton administration, but taliban leadership, including some of the people were saying now were invited to the united states. they dropped in. i think it in very secret secretively, into disney world and to target stores and did a bit of shopping. and they went to the cia and langley virginia. why? because the u. s. wanted to build one american oil company to build a natural gas pipeline from took manner stung through afghanistan to pakistan. absolutely crucial. the alternative routes with russia in

the wrong that wilson hall. it was only when bush came to power, george shuffling bush that his administration actually started to question the reliability of the taliban to deliver on a deal. now this steel, the head of the still was dick tracking who became bushes. vice president john, i'll stop you there. more from jerome pill jer after this break. the news join me every thursday on the alex simon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then me. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation,

let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical of time. time to sit down and talk me the news. welcome back. i'm still here with john pills. you the legendary filmmaker and jen lift behind such films of the wait and see and bringing the silence. i suppose we were referring to the cost of the war in its entirety, away from those origins of where this war began. julian assange in breaking the silence as i think it could be the will you to says it's

a money laundering. one dimension of this is a money laundering. man isn't cost whether it be $1.00 trillion or adrian. it's actually a way of taking taxpayers money or money of ordinary work as in west countries and recycling it into 5 big defense companies. and this kind of defense industry complex and, and makes a lot of money. yes. but it's a, it's a way of financing imperial projects. i mean by the end of the ninety's for so the taliban was so embed with the us administration. but it was calculated that every taliban official was paid for with us taxes. so wasn't paid directly, of course, when julian was talking about money being laundered through it, huge amounts of money was laundered through countless town. it all went bad,

of course, or went bad in their own terms. they didn't actually get, but they won't in the same way. iraq went bad in a way the same way that vietnam went bad. they usually to 0 class dimension to the type of ask in this, interviewed on our screens, obviously urban, they speak english. so we get that sense, as i said, 70 percent, rural, actually afghan. it's done in that they, whenever they answer questions on british television or american television stations, or in french tv station, they all assume like the interview with essentially there is altruism, there on the pause of the invading nations of nature. it's like, is going wrong with the afghans interview. don't seem to suggest that there is something maligned about the intentions. no. because those afghans interviewed by a large benefit. and those people at the airport were beneficiaries. in other was

they might be call collaborators, which they were in no sense. but they were certainly beneficiaries. and there's no question. there were women, schools and girls girls set up in kabul, which were themselves progressive. but what we were never told was, but you go into the hinterland, extraordinary hinterland, of afghanistan, the wireless country on earth far as i'm concerned. absolutely beautiful, but it is a feudalism. and that's when i 1st went to a feudalism in which these marcia day. and these warlords actually run their own little 5 times and they trade in women, they trade and women and young boys and they ran the, the heroine trade. and of course,

the c i a which were the principal back is followed very closely by m, i 6, you all about this. now, when you mention a class to mention, compare them these wild characters, if you like, but few lists from the middle ages. very people that the government of the americans undermined the p. d. p. a government tried to whose power they tried to curtail i mean compare those with some of the people being interviewed on television in the last few weeks. you know, i saw an interview with you, we were called on to be sympathetic. one could be with a former chief prosecutor and couples as highly educated man, probably degree in the us or u. k l or whatever come up with for was

an own slave within this futile as country basically and, and so that, that cloth over throwing that charles was, was the object of the government that has been lost to history and that's 978 s p d, p, a government undermine by, by the us, and then destroyed by the move dean. that what it was setting out to change, to set that, to change that class to mentioned in afghanistan. and specifically to close shop going. he was called, incorruptible, by the may be seen on a few months ago. he was the most of his time in the united states, ends up in the world bank, and he pops down in russia working for the world bank. millions killed the

reduction of life expectancy in the near liberal reforms out of the form of a union. and then he ends up enough canister down in florida election again and the liberal clause that can be parachuted in. and is this occurring on a can we expect this as, as the empire of fades, the united states empire? yeah. now you're right. i'm not sure about powers are today. and i was say, when the election that run off with supposedly with money, which he denies the polite in, let's say be able us countries are really under developed countries, is perhaps the mercantile class, which is far too polite. they in, i've gone those from this class really knew where the money was and produced a class that really rolled over it. in the meantime, the country remain medievalist. well,

the 20 year anniversary of $911.00 going up. and of course the $911.00. that won't be covered on any of the stations will be chilly. and 973, which you again mentioned in the war the and, and that's about this mercantile glass. the origins in a way that chicago school. what do you feelings now, if you're why it's still not going to be covered on saturday, will be that is the 20 year and of as well. i have not covered for the same reason as well as big as arms fair. just down the road is not covered. people don't know about. it's not covered because it's not convenient to be covered because it carries an inconvenient truth. on september, the 11th 1973. as far as trillions are concerned, those who lost their those her lost so many in the

family to the her, her end, a secretary of pena shy, and his american backers. that is the september, the 11th. that's the $911.00. it's never been around the world because we are so and i don't think brain washing is an exaggeration. we are, we are drowned in this synonymy of propaganda that the, the center of the world, the center of importance is the united states, the davis. today, the world changed and it was the day the world changed. actually. i think the world changed a lot before that during the korean war, when the americans decided they were going to become a true imperial power. i certainly change with the fall of the berlin wall on many elbows. but we are, we,

we condition to believe that everything around this one event. but only they deserve remembrance, not the people in chile, only they deserve morning. not the r o f, or the woman with her sick said children in afghanistan. it's that it's almost what we, we also backward in the, we've yet to achieve this equality of consciousness about human beings. but we what happens in the united states that what matters. they also flows from the energy just finish, i suppose, doing about julianna's entrepreneurship. after all was under house arrest and luxury home here visited by ms. sasha house arrest pending extradition means the superman jail for julian, sarge. yes. yes. joe julian is i

sat in court on the 11th of august to listen to a chief justice. i'm no longer surprising cause they come out and say this, try to describe it. a witness in, in, in something that i just thought was outrageous. but looking ahead, on the 27th and 28th will be a high court hearing on whether the united states is, is granted its appeal against the act, the, the bad, the, the bar on expedition of julian to the united states. it is probably in i think it's probably the most important legal day. certainly if not in my lifetime,

but it certainly in the morning they are. because it will say about free speech. it will say about journalism. it will say about our humanity. this is a man who's committed, no crime. who is chantal intellectual person? who has done what true journalists do any for that he is being punished. now, whether there is something of british justice left in the masonry of the tradition, re judiciary in britain. but on that day, the judges side asked, i must that he shall be afraid. i don't know joe bill, joe, thank you. that's the show. you can see john, feel free, a joke build you don't come. we'll be back on saturday. the 20th anniversary of the september 11th attacks that catalyzed the invasion of afghanistan,

but also 40 ideas since the ca, again, socialist president, salvatore and it was handed to fashion picked a drug was to finish it until then bullets on social media for all the updates from this new season to make sure to let us know what story is not seen in the mainstream. you'd like us to come i it's an open secret that private military companies have been playing a role in complex worldwide. u. s. government doesn't track the number of contractors that uses in places that iraq or afghanistan the united states army and the military in general is so reliance on the private sector. i would call the dependency, but we don't know who's the on the ground presence of these companies overseas. we just don't know. western private military companies can in turn, use so called sub contractors from countries with trouble past. the piano is quite

good that they have also been charles soldiers. i was also, as i drove profession, i drove his work when the full moon wouldn't go with no limit, malone as they were trying to be merciless killing machine. and now they fight and die in other people's was people carol, lot one or a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we started asking ourselves, why did they die? why do what were they fighting for? nobody bothers down to about their contractors. having alternate realities to experience or even live in like say lord knows my the you know, especially during the and where you can go anywhere in the game world, go everywhere, choose the game that you want. any open role game, choose it,

and you are now on a vacation in a place where you're like flying helicopters or you're, you're on beaches, you're, you're in a city drive, you know, whatever. you want your name as these, these are getaways. ah, breaking you have to 2 people are killed and 9 into the gas laws that partly destroyed and apartment block in the most of the region rescue crews off touching the survivors onto the rubber. the president joe biden got the hotel reception from his citizens, amid public restriction over his hunting or down it's called but out how's the last 3 of 9 and that's when.