1st ahead of the 911 anniversary on saturday, did, did the americans in the british leave is they came killing babies? we saw the drones strike. we saw the chaos had come, paused, let alone this atrocity that killed scores of people, something american soldiers involved in the killing of civilians there. what, what is your take? well, the killing machine option, the killing machine. in vietnam. they called the us military. the green machines because it was colored grain. but then they changed my say bay. those who really understand what the propaganda, how the propaganda has lied to us over the years. it's basically a killing machine. i mean, you talk about down the road as arms fair. when i was out in the open, one of the missiles was an m k i t 2. that was

a 500 pound precision ball my pulse and i actually a missile, but it was 5 by f. 16. i saw an afghan this time. one of these things did to a village and to one family. a name of the woman whose family was obliterated was horrified. and she had i think, 70 in her family. her husband and 6 children were killed when one of these an 82 missiles. but it was certainly one of those way back when, in the early days of the psalms that is going on now that was exhibited with such pride. and in those days pass on the light for myself,

but other journalists who one so called offense correspondence could actually get in and see what they were actually selling. we couldn't gather, we couldn't get no m a d to but i mean, i have to say this program is going out in afghanistan as well as it being walk us around the world. some africans 70 percent rural, not in god. we're going to wonder, was this war which is considered the good war by liberals, by storm or, and johnson here and by democrats and pelosi, and all of that? is it that they is it? british, americans are incompetent, certainly incompetent. but most imperialists, ah, incompetent. they make mistakes and kill large numbers of people. they didn't mean to kill. so they say, for 20 years this for has been heading towards

a foregone conclusion. hey, we had imperial powers pulling out. we've had enough of afghanistan. we've only spent what does that, you'll probably know a trade in, but it's going nowhere. anyway, we've got a new enemy on the horizon and the british ship just sent a brand new aircraft carry off to frighten this new enemy, china. so we want to switch it around there. the strategic, the strategy was at the ministry of defense. and in the pentagon and washington are writing a new scenario. it will still be about the prospect of killing people. if you look at the, the, i'd say in the, the war, gaming, china, the numbers, but they predict will be killed in either a reaction to

a chinese attack because they've put us, or in their own preemptive attack are in the millions. so the civilian lives, whether they're one family of the kind, his atrocity and tragedy, eyesore, and i've counted, it's one family or it's millions of people, but that's imperialism. we must use that term. i feel very strongly about this. it's not an agit prompted from the sixty's. it used to be a term with great respectability and pete, in fact, and people, people in this country fought for the reputation of being imperialist christian gentleman and going off to the empire to, to, to, to spread not only to spread the message but to spread the power of the imperial

center, and that's what we've had for 20 years. and i've gone last time. i reported i found this time i reported almost every war involving my own country britain freya, the united states has been an imperial war. that is weak. that word that is use so loosely and so irresponsibly, by media, we invading somebody else's country. and of course there's a sense of reason why i mean if you take the, the reason why i watched guy news last night. and i'm sure they know worse than everybody else, but they, they talked about how 911 had its origins and planning and execution. not gonna say. and that's just not true. you know, african,

this time was the fall. chi if you're like the planning was done in the united states and there wasn't a single african here among them. they were mostly saudis. i mean all this has been as true struck from l. r l consciousness day to day consciousness. but the wilful, if you can say this wilful reluctance, unwillingness deliberate, exclusion of, of the why we actually go in to countries we thing where we are now in britain, the us and the western countries. why we do that? what we hope to gain from and put it is a 900 century project. we don't pay how much now,

but we might as well. and that's where this unwillingness to appreciate and understand recent history. but as i say, imperialism is not on that truck goes. it, it got a bad name in the 2nd world war because hitler was also an imperialist. but that's what i've kind of time was. that's what was, that's what iraq was. and you know, when, when you have somebody, i would call him an arch, almost a caricature, imperialist, and tony blair, making some state my way. it is a man get his hotspur is the wrong word. whereas where does he get his arrogance from the that the power in the world that is bearing down on us again,

just like it was 20 years ago. are all these bad islamic people nothings do with us? and when you, when you look back on what blair said at the time of, at the time, the invasion of afghanistan, this is a moment to seize. he said, following 911, the kaleidoscope has been shaken. the pieces are in flux. soon they will settle again before they do. let us order reorder this world around us. for me, that is one of the clearest staples of an imperialist, and other words will go into a country, will blow it all up, will change it all around, will undermine its culture, pellets people and will make it a better place. when i put that to the former chief, the defense staff here and ministry of defense, i got one of those rare interviews

a few years ago with us was as he then was. so david richards general, so they've been richard, i put this to him and i actually quoted to him famous satcon woman molla ly joya. and what she said about the railways in the west, it was in her country, and i have nothing to do with altruism. he lost his cool and said i was a hotel about an apology, which i have to give him the credit. he vent apologize for because he is one of the martin payoff generals. even even he you, you hit a rule. no, i get that support able come watch breaking the silence coming warren, china's regarding the future and, and the war you don't see on drum filter dot com, but it has to be said to get this done is considered by liberals as the good war.

as i was saying earlier, and it's repeated often live, this is the roots of this are lie in the fight with the russians who had come to subordinate below who did such wonderful things for women schools and so on. and therefore am i 6 and the ca had to help the merger, the in that would morph into the taliban into the, into our either into ice. while it was a project with cooperation cyclic it was to destroy. it was to destroy any government that appeared or not incredible. that was progressive. and one government did appear in 978, a government, the p. d. p, a government. and they brought in the most extraordinary progressive government. equal rights, right across the board for women illiteracy, which was then 30 percent in in, in afghanistan was within

a decade, 90 percent. i mean, it, it's a, again, like when i was referring earlier to, to this, this is unwillingness to learn something in the history, to answer the question, newport about the good war at the time of the government, the united states. and this is, this is a lake cable from the u. s. embassy in couple august 979. the u. s. embassy reporter book the united states. larger interests will be served by the demise of the p. t p. a government, despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in africa, no stand. in other words,

rights of women can go to hell. the rights of poor people can go to hell can em? i think c a. m, i 6 c i, we want this country. we wanted for various reasons. it strategically, very importantly placed. but taliban in fact far from being where 911 was plotted and planned and put together. the taliban had been a client state of the united states. very few know about the bill clinton administration, but taliban leadership, including some of the people, were saying now were invited to the united states. they dropped in. i think it in very secretly secretively into disney world and to target stores and did a bit of shopping. and they went to the cia and langley virginia. why? because the u. s. wanted to build one american oil company to build

a natural gas pipeline from took nano, stung through afghanistan to pakistan. absolutely crucial alternative routes with russia in the wrong that wilson hall. it was only when bush came to power, george shuffling bush, that his administration actually started to question the reliability of the taliban to deliver on a deal. now this steel, the head of the still was dick tracking who became bushes. vice president, john, i'll stop you there more from jerome pilcher after the break. ah, ah, ah,

ah, the, who's these terrorists play by a whole set of different rules? it's going to force us in your words to get mean 30 and nasty in order to take them . all right, we'll use all tools at our disposal to do so. my name is same on our committee and i'm the head with family members can, can save time stuff and killed our children and we will never forgive them to leave this place a bit. am i? what i did states was doing, and then they were bringing people to this torture site guns, ordering and abusing them outside of the law and then allow some of them to go back

home and they would go home and tell people this is what the americans we know, look it up. it was a pointless exercise. well go back. i'm still here, john killed you. the legend. filmmaker and joe lift behind such films as the weight and fee and breaking the silence. i suppose we're referring to the cost of the war in its entirety, away from those origins of where this war began. julian assange in breaking the silence, as i think it could be the will you to see says it's a money laundering. one dimension of this is a money laundering, man isn't cost. whether it be one trillion or adrian. it's actually a way of taking taxpayers money or money of ordinary work as in west countries and recycling it into 5 big defense companies. and this kind of defense industry complex and, and it makes

a lot of money. yes. but it's way of financing imperial projects. i mean by the end of the ninety's for so the taliban was so in bed with the us administration that it was calculated that every taliban official was paid for with us taxes. so wasn't paid directly, of course, when julian was talking about money being laundered through it, huge amounts of money was laundered through afghanistan. it all went bad. of course it went bad in their own terms. they didn't actually get what they want in the same way. iraq went bad in a way the same way the vietnam went bad. they usually 20 class dimension to the type of african this interviewed on our screens. obviously urban, they speak english, so we get that sense. as i said, 70 percent rural,

actually f get it's done in that they whenever they answer questions on british television or american television stations, or in french tv station, they all assume like the interview with essentially there is altruism, there on the part of the invading nations of nature, it's like, is going wrong with the afghans interview. don't seem to suggest that there is something maligned about the intentions. no. because those africans interviewed by a large benefit. and those people at the airport were beneficiaries. in other was they might be call collaborators, which they were in no sense. but they were certainly beneficiaries. and there's no question. there were women, schools and girls girls set up in kabul, which were themselves progressive. but what we were never told was that you

go into the hinterland, the extraordinary hinterland of afghanistan, the wireless country on earth as far as i'm concerned. absolutely beautiful, but it is a feudalism. and that's when i 1st went to a feudalism in which these marcia day and these warlords actually run their own little 5 times. and they trade in women, they trade and women and young boys and they ran the, the heroine trade. and of course, the c i a which were the principal back has followed very closely by my 6 you all about this. now, when you mention a class to mention, compare them these wild characters, if you like, but few lists from the middle ages. the very people that the government of the

americans undermined the p. d. p. a government tried to whose power they tried to curtail i mean compare those with some of the people being interviewed on television in the last few weeks. you know, i saw an interview with you, we were called on to be sympathetic. one could be with a former chief prosecutor and couples as highly educated man, probably a degree in the us or u k, l, or whatever come up with for was an own slave within this futile as country basically. and, and so that, that cloth over throwing that class was, was the object of the government that has been lost to history. and that's

978 s p d p, a government undermine by, by the us and then destroyed by the move dean. that what it was setting out to change, to set, to change that class to mention in afghanistan, and specifically to close shop going, he was called, incorruptible, by the may be seen on a few months ago. he was, most of his time in the united states, ends up in the world bank, and he pops down in russia working for the world bank. millions killed in the reduction of life expectancy in the near liberal reforms out of the form of a union. and then he ends up enough canister down in florida election again and the liberal clause that can be parachute it in and this is occurring on a can we expect this as, as the empire of fades, the united states,

m p a. yeah, now you're right, i'm not sure about power. shoot it in i was say, when the election that run off with supposedly with money, which he denies the polite in, let's say be able us countries are really under developed countries. is perhaps the mercantile class, which is far too polite. lay in, i've kind of gone this class really knew where the money was and produced a class that really rolled over it. in the meantime, the country remained medievalist. well, the 20 year anniversary of $911.00 going up and of course be $911.00. that won't be covered on any of the stations will be chilly. and $973.00, which you again mentioned in the and, and that's about this mercantile glass. the origins in a way that chicago school. what do you feelings now,

if you're why it's still not going to be covered on saturday, will be that is the 20 year end of as well. i have not covered for the same reason as well as big as arms fair. just down the road is not covered. people don't know about. it's not covered because it's not convenient to be covered because it carries an inconvenient truth. on september, the 11th 1973. as far as trillions are concerned, those who lost their closure, lost so many in the family to the horrendous savagery of pena shy and his american backers. that is the september, the 11th, that's the $911.00. it's never been around the world because we are so and i don't think brainwashing is an exaggeration. we are,

we are drowned in this synonymy of propaganda that the, the center of the world, the center of importance is the united states. the day to day the world change time to figure was the day the world changed. actually, i think the world change the lot before that during the korean war, when the americans decided that we're going to become a true imperial power. i certainly changed with the fall of the berlin wall on many elbows. but we are, we, we condition to believe that everything around this one event. but only they deserve remembrance, not the people in chile, only they deserve morning. not b r o for the woman with her 6 said children in afghanistan.

it's that it's almost what we, we also backward in the, we've yet to achieve this equality of consciousness about human beings. but we wait. what happens in the united states that what matters for the else flows from that energy just finish, i suppose, doing about julianna's, been a show after all was under house arrest and luxury home here, visit my pacha, house arrest, pending extradition means the superman jail for julian sanchez yes, joe julian is i sat in court on the 11th of august to listen to a chief justice. i'm no longer surprising cause like come out and say this. try to describe it. a witness in, in,

in something i just thought was outrageous. but looking ahead, on the 27th and 28th will be a high court hearing on whether the united states is, is granted its appeal against the act, the, the bad, the, the bar on the expedition of julian to the in either states. it is probably in i think it's probably the most important legal day. certainly, if not in my lifetime, but it certainly in the mockingly era. because it will say about free speech. it will say about journalism. it will say about our humanity. this is a man who's committed, no crime. who is chantal intellectual person?

who has done what true journalists do any for that he is being punished. now, whether there is something of british justice left in the masonry of the tradition, re judiciary in britain. but on that day, the judges to side as they mast that he shall be frayed. i don't know joe bell. joe . thank you. that's it for the show. you can see john's hills are free, a job build. you don't come. we'll be back on saturday. the 20th anniversary of the september 11th attacks that catalyzed the invasion of afghanistan, but also 40 ideas since the ca, again, socialist president, salvatore and i was handed to fascist dictator. i was to finish it until then for some social media for all the updates from this new season to make sure to let us know what story is not seen in the mainstream. you'd like us to cover the ah,

the in the me that but civic leg around the world, expedition by 1000 ocean mile. round the clock in the dead. calm miss spanish in every country. close by like the crew. gavin's food and water and food to check those for a show later on, the little thing is got everybody locked down

or no more? no food and no one really giving them up. so somebody stuck in the cove at your living like the theme of own but in the 21st century i the it's an open secret that private military companies have been playing a role in complex worldwide. us government doesn't track the number of contractors that uses in places iraq or afghanistan, the united states army. and the military in general is so reliance on a private sector. i would call the dependency, but we don't know who's the on the ground presence of these companies overseas. we just don't know. the western private military companies can, in their turn, use so called sub contractors from countries with trouble past the quite good that

they had also been charles soldiers. i was also, as i drove professional drug is where the when the full moon wouldn't go with the flow limit malone ship, which are to be merciless killing machine. now they fight and die in other people's was people carol, lot one or a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we started asking ourselves, why did they die? why do what were they fighting for? nobody bothers down to about the contractors having alternate realities to experience or even live in like say lord knows my, the you know, especially during the panoramic where you can go anywhere in the game world,

go everywhere, choose the game that you want. any open roll game, choose it, and you are now on a vacation in a place where you're like flying helicopters or you're, you're on beaches, you're, you're in a city drive, you know, whatever you want, you know, your name as these. these are getaways the president biden gets a hostile reception from the american public, amid anger over the handling of the gallery. on the 20th anniversary of 911 approaches all to explore the legacy of america's war on terror. in a series of special reports today, we heard from families who saw the loved ones killed in a recent us drug, striking comp time the head of the family that has lost 10 of its members. this is

not a mistake of america. this is a crime.