and you are now on a vacation in a place where you're like flying helicopters or you're, you're on beaches, you're, you're in a city drive, you know, whatever you want, you name it these, these are getaways. ah, the president biden gets a hostile reception from the american public, amid anger over the handling of the gallery. on the 20th anniversary of $911.00 approaches all to explore the legacy of america's war on terror in a series of special reports. today we hear from families who saw the loved ones killed in a recent us drug, striking comp time the head of the family that has lost 10 of its members. this is not a mistake of america, this isn't crime and trouble it see the k through the with how millions of

pounds promised to france to give london claims that paris is not doing what it agreed and trying to stop a flood of migrants crossing the english channel. ah, pretty good evening, watching artsy international. thanks for joining job. i didn't go to a less than welcome at a new jersey town. hit hard by hurricane ida, a group of locals, voice their anger over the afghan is, can pull out with some even branding b u. s. president tyrant the. c

fury over the war in afghan this down is being felt all the more acutely in the run up to a grim anniversary for the us almost 20 years have passed since the tragic events of $911.00 a day that shook the world and set the stage for the us war on terror to market, we've been taking a closer look at the devastating impact the subsequent 2 decades of conflict have had on the lives of millions in our special project. unheard voices. the will use all tools at our disposal space killed our children for united states was bringing people to watch a site. it was a pointless exercise. and we start the series by looking at the impact of one recent event. so call defensive as strike conducted by the u. s. and cobble at the end of august, just prior to the afghan astound withdrawal deadline, we heard from fathers who lost their children in that rate,

the youngest of whom was just 2 years old. saw the sandals belong to melinda. she was very close to me. i looked her so much. she always told me to buy ice cream with us military forces conducted and unmanned over the horizon airstrike on a vehicle known to be an imminent isis k threat. on the morning of the bombing, she came and kissed me and said, good morning father. it was her last meeting. i will never see her again. the my name is maddie. i'm the head of the family that has lost 10 of its members. it was around 430 pm, i left for the market and on the way i met my elder brother who was driving back home. we talked a little, then he left to go home, and i crossed the road to go to the other side. i just crossed the road and i heard

an explosion. my daughter later to me that she saw a smaller craft, a drone, moving around in a circle which then fired a missile about hitch or home. i turned to look, there was dust and smoke lightning. it was a terrible scene. my wife was shutting not her highest was on fire. ah, there were parts of children's bodies. it was so bloody increase and i went into my home on fun, my brother and a nephew. they were critically injured, but still alive and breathing. they later died in hospital. my brother and 9 others were killed in this horrific attack. my brother's daughter, who was student to get married, also lost her life. another relative was also here, a guest. she was killed to oh,

i bush my loves cosmetics, she likes painting her nails for she like dolls very much. the main cause of the incident was the american president, planning this attack without any evidence and destroying our family was the catastrophe. ringback ringback ah, the president is made clear to the commanders that they should stop at nothing to make ices pay for the deaths of those american service members at the cobble airport. they say, isis k lived in this house in this house were these children members of ice is a stupid thought without any proof, without any investigation, they attacked us and killed our children, and we will never forgive them. ah,

our entire families in shock, its being so painful for us mentally. we are not in a stable condition. the women are dead silent. they don't speak, you know, we left our devastated homes and now live in my sister's place. it's so painful to visit it because we could see your children dying there. the people accusing us of having contact with islam state, the americans who bombed our family, seeing we'd been preparing an attack on them. their complete and utter liars, ah . ringback after the incident, no authority came here to investigate. nobody asked us what happened here and no one help. no one came here to morally support us. this is not a mistake of america,

this is a crime. we've lost her children. the count returned to us. so what mister owner should be restored by us for investigation into the incident. we all see international community to investigate this incident. ah, make no mistake. no military on the face of the earth works harder to avoid civilian casualties than the united states military. and nobody wants to see innocent life taking the americans have left us get this done. they came because of their own goals and humiliated in my country. america is not achieved. anything else going on? america has failed in afghanistan, and it has made our people miserable. will be

speaking with more people, both soldiers and civilians whose lives would change forever by barren cars will in our continuing special coverage, unheard voices throughout the week. the u. k. setting to withhold millions of pounds promised to france to help tackle the migrant crisis. because paris isn't pulling, it's wise, that's the claim coming from downing street, the spots emerging, this record number of people continue to arrive on u. k. beaches having made the crossing from northern france. paris slammed britain . this threat is a serious loss of trust, said he address dashti has more well pretty patel and have french counterparts. and now in a war of was as the situation on the english channel is escalating. once again, it comes as around 800 people have risked their lives trying to reach the united kingdom in crossing one of the world's busiest shipping lanes and one single day alone. now the home secretary has met with the french interior minister off the

preacher house, threatening to cut a 54000000 pounds funding pledge to help the french authorities in their operations across the channel, unless more boats intercepted now obviously the french authorities, particularly angry with the u k. such a threat that we've just had and have said, this is not what they signed up for, the conditions of the funds when you go, she did indeed with the british. and it was never on condition of specific targets that abroad would translate into a serious loss of trust in our cooperation. while it's been a bit of a tit for tat between the 2 nations for quite some time. now, the french have always said that this is a british problem, and that they should be dealing with the issue out source. i. e, are the very countries in which refugees are headed towards the euro, particularly at this height and time. as we know, the crisis and catastrophe in afghanistan has seen some millions of people being

displaced, many of which are trying to head to the united kingdom. so the french is saying it's a british problem. the british are saying it's a french problem and they should actually be trying to intercept these boats and turning them back to france. now campaign is here in the united kingdom. they've long. * been saying the answer to all of this is neither what the french nor purchased say, but actually to try and see safer and legal passages for asylum seekers so that they don't have to risk their lives trying to cross the english channel. but the u . k. government says it's working to target people smugglers to try and alleviate the crisis. we remain determined to fix the broken silence system and break the business model of people smugglers who put lives at risk and welcome people through safe and legal routes. while they see a record. 13500 asylum seekers have crossed the english channel in small, but it's just a 1000 in the last 2 days. now. conservative m p 's here in the united kingdom that

calling for the home secretary to even break international law and send all of the assign him because of back to france if they've traveled terror legally by boat. now france and if the u. k. does that, that will be serious consequences and then it's doing all it can to try and prevent these crossings. they say since january they've intercepted 10000 and brought them back to the front shores. despite the french authorities having to deal with a volved amount of space to police on the beach is over in france. the fact is, we've got 302400 kilometers of shore to monitor every day and every night. and it's quite impossible to have police officers every 100 meters because of the length of the shore. now, here in the united kingdom and the home secretary in particular has had some rather roads past rhetoric over the years, particularly aimed on asylum seekers headed to the united kingdom. in fact, the principal has now got the reputation of the credit deville and the immigration

system for what many people would argue as particularly hostile. we have to look at the beginning of her 10 year. she said the quest things would be an infrequent phenomenon. that last year she promised to shut off the route entirely. and this year she's pushing through an immigration bill making crossings illegal. meaning that anybody that does head to the united kingdom by boat could be seen to go even to be jailed in fact. but no matter how hostile pre patel's policies or comments are, it's not stopping asylum seekers headed to the united kingdom. it seems that the u . k. is the fall safe haven, either the countries that they are fleeing from, hence this latest influx of asylum seekers here in the united kingdom. but perhaps now the home secretary should trench tack, considering the numbers are not coming down. frances top court has upheld charges against a cement company for funding. terrorism le fall,

she's accused of paying $30000000.00 euros. did you had groups in syria to keeping separations running? so i live in ski in paris has been following developments. jackie's ations was paid almost 13000000 years to a number of militant groups in syria during the conflict, including 2, she's allocation state back to 2013, 2014. when the fours made the payments are legible to try and keep it so many company continuing to be able to operate in the country. now, the furniture is also accused of buying pet from to a middle man, which is proven would be indirect violation of you in ball goes now for as try to have some of the allegations against the course with a lower court earlier. this is turning round and saying that allegations of crime against humanity could be thrown that france is hope court. the supreme court has

now waded into this and decided that i actually lose allegations. can that be put back on the table? this is what the court says in its judgement, in this case, the payment of several $1000000.00 to an organization which is actively criminal is enough to characterize the complicity. whether or not the party in question was only doing so to proceed. commercial activity, but case had been brought to the court's attention by former employees over the fall, and also being backed by n g o y group have well couldn't be sufficient. a great when in the fight for corporate accountability for international crimes. well, far as can be prosecuted for complicity and crimes against humanity. so i see that i can now be investigated for crimes against humanity is not food for the company. also faces of the charges, including the financing of terrorism, endangering the lives of individuals and of course,

violating that you involve go notify for its purpose. has admitted that it said pe militants in syria doing 2013 and during 2000. what it says is that in a breach a point help its employees for protecting them on the ground. we also know that several invest in executive pool of foss, also under investigation, as part of why look into the fall just activities were in syria to really period in the 1st. it is continuing to cooperate with all that you to show investigations. i put the idea that the falls could now face these additional accusations, this investigation of crimes being humanity would set a precedent. there isn't one take just yet because why do investigation is still going on? if it goes to trial, it would be the 1st time that a french company has been tried in fonts in this way.

adultery, miami is making headlines after announcing that she won't treat anyone in person who hasn't had a coven faxing to linda mater chain. he claims that she's been forced to do a red line by her concerned about the health of the public when it comes to the safety of others when it comes to the fact that it's a global health problem and community health problem. at this point, i really say that this is where we draw the line and descend for me. the doctor says that her decision doesn't full fall of the ethical standards of the hippocratic oath because she says she still offering phone appointments and exempting people who can get vaccinated on medical grounds with the highly contagious delta. very jacoby taking hold around the world, stuck them out of jeannie, joins the global course of those calling for a greater vaccination push. right, let's discuss this in a bit more detail now joined by to guess. first of all, william schaffner, professor of preventative medicine and infectious diseases. and also john,

go and talk radio host and column is welcome to both gentlemen, william, i just mentioned, did this, the question about, is this a clash with the promise? is that the doctor makes when swearing to the hippocratic? i think it's a refusal of care or not. if you, if you say, i'm not going to treat you if you don't have a vaccine. well, she's obviously set out a standard in her practice and everybody knows about that. then all of our patients know and she's using, i'm sure, computer based telemedicine and she says phone medicine and consultation. so she has that deserted or her patients. however, if they require in person care, she'll have to refer than elsewhere. i can tell you for sure. here in my own medical center, the vanderbilt university medical center. we're not doing that. we're using good infection, control precautions, and hygiene masks feels to take care of all patients infected with coded

and not vaccinated or not. we were treating all comers here safely and carefully. john is, did you get a sense at any point that this is becoming the whole vaccine discussion? it's become a little bit like bipartisan politics in the u. s. or briggs that is dividing people on one side to the other. the millions around the world saying they don't want to be vaccinated, they don't believe that these vaccines make much of a difference. and there are those who can be quite hostile to those who don't get the vaccine saying that the falls both saw july. that on a lot of the breaks the argument, it is like good democrats versus the republicans joined the true para. and now in this joe biden error, though, this isn't serious because this is killing people. cove, it does exist, and really i think the empty boxes have been getting too much publicity. you just said 10 millions. don't want to have it. never forget neil,

millions and millions of people have had it. i wanted. and i can understand where this daughter's getting frustrated. because there she is. she wants to deal with people. she wants to help people. but she's got people who are presenting themselves who wanted to present themselves, her medical center, and they haven't even bothered to have the backs. look, i believe is everybody's duty. no man is an island and everybody should be getting vaccinated. yeah, just to pick up the back of what you said about how many people have been vaccinated. another think it's around 41 percent of had at least globally the will population of had at least one vaccine or mostly the wealthy of western nations. it's something like only 2 percent in low income countries is kind of a real difference. globally, william, why ah, there, so many people, even in the u. s. and the u. k, who still refused to get the vaccine even though latest information suggests it

goes, have quite a positive effect in terms of reducing your chance of getting l or reducing your chance of being hospitalized. well, you are certainly correct about that, and i agree with my colleague 100 percent. all of us have an ethical responsibility to be vaccinated, not only to protect ourselves, but others. it's very inexplicable why it is that some people are quite adamant and they're not wishing to take the vaccine. it's difficult to engage them in discussions at this point. you don't sense that they're always being forthcoming, but some are extraordinarily fixed in their beliefs. my colleague at the moment is on service taking care of such patients and they're on vaccinated. she's been speaking to their partners. there was some whole also, or i'm vaccinated and will not be actually, even though their husband is in, for example, the intensive care unit. right. in front of them is inexplicable. i can't get my

brain around. i think it's the internet isn't it? to a large extent, we've never had a global health scare pandemic like this where the internet was in place. and what's happened is the internet is a great place to spread conspiracies, and i think elsewhere is coming from. well i from the wild conspiracies that bill gates, he put a chip next. what is to the, this is an experiment, collect, seen, it's not an experimental vaccine. this vaccine that's being tested. yes, it's about seen has been changed quickly. but hey, let's wake up. we've got a panoramic millions of people have suffered or have died as a result of it. these people though you see doctor, i believe, have been getting too much publicity, certainly here in the united kingdom that treated almost paul with serious scientists like yourselves and professors. and i think we got to stop calling these people out for a while now, which is crank crackpots and dangerous,

dangerous conspiracy for we have to do that. we need to protect everybody. and to your point, neil about developing countries. countries not necessarily in the what we in the west must do more to share the vaccines out to those people. of course, for the future of any government is the protection of his own citizens. but i would like to see is getting more, i mean, we have some trust radia and most developing countries, but that we gave millions of doses to them. but we got to do this because if we don't help places like india and of course the continent of africa will never be safe. we're never going to be cobra 0. i understand. but because of travel, we do need to get this out to everyone as quickly as possible and just say ok, the chinese could play a much bigger pause in this helping other countries. william, i'm just having

a quick look at the percentage of people in, in the relative countries a over half of the people in the vaccinations. i think it's 53 percent. the estimates in the u. s. a fully vaccinated. so, i mean, the lowest number of people who haven't had it, can you understand, for example, and this is of the back of what john just said. there are a few high profile cases that gets picked by the media. i think there was a b, b, c presenter who got a blood clot from a vaccination and died. so he's got a lot of attention. can you understand people reading something like that and thinking, i don't want to die. i don't know if you want to be a lucky ones, you get some blood clot and die from those, and probably statistically isn't going to kill me any way. cobit, i'm going to take my chances. can you sympathize with that mentality? well, of course, the average person has a background in science, and they're fearful fearful of the vaccine and fearful of the virus. and that gets them in the middle, and they don't act at all,

certainly not receiving the vaccines. but i think at the moment, what we need here in the united states is local leadership is whole very well and good to have prominent people at the national level. but you've gotta get not only local political leaders, but business leaders, religious leaders, people who are respected in their local communities. and with respect to my colleagues, i still think you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. and i think we need to respect the people who, who are so far, refusing the vaccine and trying to lure them into persuading them, making them comfortable in receiving the vaccine. john, i'm sorry, professor has a word and it isn't gonna work, especially when you go people out the governor of florida who's not interested in coded. so co cobra pitbulls or segregation. you've got real problems and this mom wants to be the president of the united states. we've had enough carrot professor,

we now need a bit of stick. and if these people don't want to have it, i'm glad to start to say in our see, i think other doctors will follow sheet, i think will really seeing in leisure. we're going to see it in airlines. you will not be able to get on a plane and fly anywhere unless you're double vaccinated and you know what? that's right. that's correct. because no man, no, i didn't actually agree with you john. i think mandates widely used will oblige for many people to be vaccinated. we have to be vaccinated. we're obliged to do that in our healthcare environments. and other people also are do you know, do you know the new you you do not have to be vaccinated at the moment to work in health care or in the care sector. the government. you want to introduce that at the end of this month. and there is a rule because people say, well,

i'm going to lose my job. well, i can't believe that you would go into health care without having a job. if you need to have a job, you know, when koby come up to have it. i mean, just a ludicrous people's, i've always gone ideal zone. sense of entitlement, that privilege when actually this is a j f k moment, isn't it? you know, don't ask what your country is going to do for you. see what you, if your controller that's not quite the quote, but i'm sure you follow what i'm saying. and we need a lot more people to think like that and think selflessly rather than selfishly. and that have your right. let us be led by our leaders, both local and in your state lasers is disgraceful. what was governor of florida? his doing is an absolute descript. william, i just want to get back to the, to the, to the medical frontier. everything looks like it's going quite well in terms of the vaccination programs and the positive health effects. but we're quite,

we're not very far down the road. let me put it not way. can you understand people saying we don't know yet. this is only been a year or 2 and it's completely proven for all we know, we may get big medical problems down the road. can you understand this? people say we draw the weight because we're scared what consequences may be unknown at this point? well, actually i hear that a fair amount in my response to that. it's very clear, you know, in infancy, children and adolescents and adults travel or staying at home, we use over 20 vaccines. not a single one of them has a long term effect, a long term adverse effect. it just doesn't exist. and there's no biological reason for that to happen with this vaccine either. and we've given this vaccine to more people in a short period of time before we now have a vast experience, not only in our old country, but around the world with this back seat. we know how it works. it's not perfect,

but it sure is very, very good. and if we all took it, it could really, on board, be further spread of this virus. we could reduce the spread and finally, get ahead of this coded virus. joe. and i want to write presser to say that when people are scared of blood clots, you know, perhaps after having the vaccine, what they should really be concerned about is there's much more chance of getting a blood clot, as a result of catching cozy 19. you're saying my song, john, i just want to ask you because it seems like you are very much in favor of a, of a principle such as mandatory vaccination, other concerns as well as just just health risks. if that is the case, and course, correct me if i'm wrong there. but what about the societal impact? couldn't we end up with a situation where you've got, you know, for example, almost half of the population in america who haven't been vaccinated? you could have

a large percentage of people saying we will refuse this mandatory vaccination. could you then end up with a real societal split and a kind of to tear society where you've got people who actually have a lot less freedom because they refused vaccination? well, 1st of all, mandates, really, i don't really want to be mandatory. there shouldn't be a need for that. people should be selfless, not selfish, but i wouldn't be against it if this continues. secondly, the united states of america no disrespect to the esteem professor. they were slow off the mark. we won't get into the politics or whether that was true that was bided, but they were slow off them all compared to us. we were ahead of the field. and so with countries like israel, of course, we slipped back a bit now because we're having a tortures debate about whether we should give it to 12 to 17 year olds, was in the states. they've decided, let's get on with it. i understand it's the same in russia, france, many parts of europe. look, we're facing a pandemic. we're facing something that is killing millions or has the potential to

kill millions of people. we have to get on top of it. we have to work as a world together. i mean, obviously very upset when the spook nick version came out. and a lot of people, particularly the b, b. c. look down this new, you know, use it as if the russians couldn't do it, couldn't make the vaccine. just ridiculous. we need to put out all to upsize. we need to work together. we need to vaccinate, look what we've all done around the world with mumps or a bella. t b small portion of we've made massive strides in the last 100 or so years. we need to keep doing that, and we need to get less publicity in the to the correct votes. and when you say, you know, half of america, the united states haven't had it. it's not gonna end up is half, is it? they're going to get this vaccination albert.