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what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy plantation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, a very critical time. time to sit down and talk me the the the with time action or attention you're watching, going underground back for a brand new series. as us secretary said that the blinking me to
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a german foreign minister i go mass to discuss the significance of nature's catastrophic defeat by the taliban in afghanistan. joining me now in the studio to discuss the future of nato so called forever was of the so called end of the usa. the longest war in history could remark the beginning of a new world order. is that gender filmmaker journalist john pill? judge on thanks. so much for coming back on it's a week where the largest om square is just down the road here in london being hosted. they've been bombing syria, the israelis arm by the british b. u and the united states has been warming of gaza this week. but to afghanistan, 1st ahead of the 911 anniversary on saturday did did the americans and the british leave is they came killing babies. we saw the drone strike. we saw the chaos had come, paused, let alone this atrocity that killed scores of people, something american soldiers involved in the killing of civilians. that what,
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what is your take? well, the killing machine action killing machine in vietnam. they called the us military, the green machines because it was colored grain. but then they changed my ca, those who really understand what the propaganda, how the propaganda has lied to us over the years. it's basically a killing machine. i mean, you talk about down the road, there's his arms fair. when i was out in the open, one of the missiles was an m k, 82. that was a $500.00 pound precision ball. my pause and actually a missile, but it was 5 by f. 16. i saw an afghan austin, one of these things did to a village. and to one family. the name of the woman whose
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family was obliterated was horrified. and she had i think, 70 in her family. her husband and 6 children were killed when one of these, an 82 missiles bought. it was certainly one of those way back when, in the early days of this alms fair, but is going on. now that was exhibited with such pride and in those days past the life for myself. but other journalists who one so called defense correspondence could actually get in and see what they were actually selling. we couldn't together, we couldn't get no m a d to but i mean, i have to say this program is going out in afghanistan as well as the big walk us
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around the world. some africans 70 percent rural, not in god. we're going to wonder, was this war, which is considered the good war by liberals, by storm or, and johnson here and by democrats and below sea, and all of that is it that they is it, british, americans are incompetent, certainly incompetent. but most imperialists, ah, incompetent. they make mistakes and kill large numbers of people. they didn't mean to kill. so they say, for 20 years this for has been heading towards a foregone conclusion. hey, we had imperial powers pulling out. we've had enough of afghanistan. we've only spent what does that, you'll probably know a trade in, but it's going nowhere. anyway, we've got a new enemy on the horizon and the british ship just sent
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a brand new aircraft carry off to frighten this new enemy, china. so we want to switch it around there, the strategic, the strategist at the ministry of defense. and in the pentagon and washington are writing a new scenario. it will still be about the prospect of killing people. if you look at the, the, as i've seen, the, the war gaming, china, the numbers, but they predict will be killed in either a reaction to a chinese attack because they put us, or in their own preemptive attack are in the millions. so the civilian lives, whether they're one family of the kind, his atrocity and tragedy, eyesore, and i've counted, it's one family or it's millions of people. but that's imperialism. we must use
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that term. i feel very strongly about this. it's not an agit prompt from the sixty's. it used to be a term with great respectability and pete, in fact. and people, people in this country fought for the reputation of being imperialist christian gentleman and going off to the empire to, to, to, to spread not only to spread the message but to spread the power of the imperial center. and that's what we've had for 20 years. and i've got on time i reported, i've kind of sent, i reported almost every war involving my own country. britain freya, united states has been an imperial war. that is weak. that
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word that is use so loosely. and so irresponsibly, by media, we inviting somebody else's country. and of course there's a sense of reason why i mean if you take the, the reason why i watch guy news last night. and i'm sure they know worse than anybody else, but they, they talked about how 911 had its origins and planning and execution. not gonna say that's just not true. you know, african, this time was the fall guy. if you're like, the planning was gone in the united states and there wasn't a single african here among them. they were mostly saudis. i mean all this has been as true struck from l. l consciousness day to day
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consciousness. but be wilful. if you can say this wilful reluctance, unwillingness, deliberate, exclusion of, of the why we actually go in to countries we thing where we are now in britain, the us and the western countries. why we do that? what we hope to gain from and put it is a 19th century project. we don't want to pay how much now, but we might as well. and that's where this unwillingness to appreciate and understand recent history. but as i say, imperialism is not on that truck. it goes, it, it got a bad name in the 2nd world war because hitler was also an imperialist. but that's
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what i've kind of time was. that's what was, that's what iraq was. and you know, when, when you have somebody, i would call him an arch, almost a character to imperialist. and tony blair, making some state my way. it is a man get his hotspur is the wrong word. whereas where does he get his arrogance from that that the power in the world that is bearing down on us again, just like it was 20 years ago. are all these bad islamic people? nothing to do with us? and when you, when you look back on what blair said at the time of, at the time of the invasion of afghanistan, this is a moment to seize. he said,
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following 911, the kaleidoscope has been shaken. the pieces are in flux. soon they will settle again before they do. let us order reorder this world around us. for me, that is one of the clearest state of an imperialist and other words will go into a country, will blow it all up, will change it all around, will undermine its culture, will kill its people and will make it a better place. when i put that to the former chief, the defense staff here and ministry of defense like one of those rare interviews a few years ago with the, with, as he then was. so david richards general, so david richard, i put this to him and i actually quoted to him the famous woman, muller ly joya. and what she said about the railways in the west,
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it was in her country, and i had nothing to do with altruism. he lost his po and, and said i was a hotel about an apology, which i have to give him the credit. he then apologized because he is one of the martin payoff generals. but even, even he, you hit a rule. no, i get that support able come watch breaking the silence coming war on china's regarding the future and, and the war you don't see on a drum filter dot com, but it has to be said to get this done is considered by liberals as the good war as i was saying earlier, and it's repeated often live, this is the roots of this are lie in the fight with the russians who had come to subordinate the below, who did such wonderful things for women schools and so on. and therefore, am i 6 and the cia had to help the merger dean that would morph into the taliban
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into the, into our either into ice until it was a project with cooperation cyclic it was to destroy. it was to destroy any government that appeared or not. and couple that was progressive and one government to appear in 978, a government p d p, a government. and they brought in the most extraordinary progressive government. equal rights, right across the board for women illiteracy, which was then 30 percent in in, in afghanistan was within a decade, 90 percent. i mean, it, it's a, again, like when i was referring earlier to, to this, this is unwillingness to learn something in the history,
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to answer the question, newport about the good war at the time of the government, the united states. and this is, this is a li cable from the u. s. embassy and couple august, not in 79. the u. s embassy report or book the united states. larger interests will be served by the demise of the p. t p. a government, despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in africa stand. in other words, rights of women can go to hell. the rights of poor people can go to hell and them, i think c a. m, i 6 c i. we want this country, we wanted for various reasons. it's strategically, very importantly placed the taliban in fact, far from being where 911 was plotted and planned and put together.
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but taliban had been a clan state of the united states. very few know that the bill clinton administration, but taliban leadership, including some of the people were saying now were invited to the united states. they dropped in. i think it in very secretly secretively into disney world and to target stores and did a bit of shopping. and they went to the c i in langley virginia. why? because the u. s. wanted to build one american oil company to build a natural gas pipeline from took manner stung through afghanistan to pakistan. absolutely crucial. the alternative routes with russia and iran that wilson hall. it was only when bush came to power, george shuffling bush that his administration actually started to question the
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reliability of the taliban to deliver on a deal. now the steel, the head of the still was dick tracking who became bushes. vice president, john, i'll stop you there more from jerome pilcher. after this break the news, the news having all realities to experience or even live in like a role or does my idea, you know, especially during and where you can go anywhere in the game world, go everywhere. choose the game that you want. any open roll game, choose it, and you are now on a vacation in a place where you're like flying helicopters or you're, you're on beaches, you're,
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you're in a city drive, you know, whatever you want. you name it these, these are getaways. and the war on drugs started as a way to come back, a great problem. what's the wonder? it's part of the attitude of the nation, not just of north dakota. and it got to be something that you could get elected. this time, the fight against drugs took a check. he told us that there was a competence short form. this is way too dangerous for him to be doing. clearly they put him in harm's way. a rural college student does interest get shot in the head and found in a river like that. something else had to be happening. the welcome back. i'm still here, john killed you. the luxury,
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filmmaker and journalist behind such films of the weight and fee and breaking the silence. i suppose we are referring to the cost of the war in its entirety away from those origins of where this war began. julian assange in breaking the silence as i think it could be the will you to says it's a money laundering. one dimension of this is a money laundering. man isn't cost whether it be $1.00 really re, julian, it's actually a way of taking taxpayers money or money of ordinary work as in west galleries and recycling it into $5.00 big defense companies. and this kind of defense industry complex and, and it makes a lot of money. yes. but it's a, it's a way of financing imperial projects. i mean, by the end of the ninety's for so the taliban was so in bed with the us administration. but it was calculated that every
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taliban official was paid for with us taxes. so wasn't paid directly. of course, when julian was talking about money being laundered through it, huge amounts of money was laundered through afghanistan. it all went bad. of course, it went bad in the road and they didn't actually get, but they won't in the same way. iraq went bad in a way the same way the vietnam went bad. they usually $20.00 class dimension to the type of ask end is interviewed on our screens. obviously urban, they speak english. so we get that sense, as i said, 70 percent, rural, actually afghan. it's done in that they, whenever they answer questions on british television or american television stations, or in french tv station, they all assume like the interviewer live. essentially there is altruism,
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there on the pause of the invading nations of nature. it's like is going wrong with the afghans interview. don't seem to suggest that there is something maligned about the intentions. no. because those guns interviewed by a large benefit. and those people at the airport were beneficiaries. in other was they might be call collaborators, which they were in no sense. but they were certainly beneficiaries. and there is no question. there were women, schools and girls schools set up in a couple which were themselves progressive. but what we were never told was, but you go into the hinterland, the extraordinary hinterland of afghanistan, the wireless country on earth far as i'm concerned. absolutely beautiful, but it is a feudalism. and that's when i 1st went to
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a feudalism in which these mercia day. and these warlords actually run their own little 5 times. and they trade in women by trade and women and young boys. and then they ran the, the heroine trade. and of course the c i a which were the principal backers followed very closely by my 6 you all about this. now, when you mention a class to mention, compare then these wild characters, if you like, but few lists from the middle ages. the very people that the government of the americans undermined the p. d. p. a government tried to whose power they tried to curtail i mean compare those with some of the people being interviewed on television in the last few weeks. you know, i saw an interview with you,
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we were called on to be sympathetic. one could be with a former chief prosecutor and couples as highly educated man, probably a degree in the us or u k, l, or whatever it was for was an own slave within this futile as country basically. and, and so that, that cloth over throwing that clause was, was the object of the government that has been lost to history. and that's 978 s p d p, a government undermine by, by the us and then destroyed by the move dean. that what it was setting out to change,
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to set that to change that class to mentioned in afghanistan, and specifically to close shop going, he was called, incorruptible, by the may be seen on a few months ago. he was the most of his time in the united states, ends up in the world bank. and he pops down in russia working for the world bank. millions killed in the reduction of life expectancy in the near liberal reforms out of the form of a union. and then he ends up in afghanistan in florida election again and the liberal clause that can be parachuted in. and is this occurring on a, can we expect this as, as the empire of fades, the united states empire of a. yeah, now you're right. i'm not sure about power shoot it in i was say, when the election that run off with supposedly with money, which he denies the polite in, let's say be able us countries are really under developed countries,
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is perhaps the mercantile class, which is far too polite. they and i have kindness from this class, really knew where the money was and produced a class that really rolled over. in the meantime, the country remain medievalist. well, the 20 year anniversary of $911.00 going up. and of course the $911.00. that won't be covered on any of the stations will be chilly. 973, which you again mentioned in the war. the and, and that's about this mercantile glass. the origins in a way that chicago school. what do you feelings now, if you're why it's still not going to be covered on saturday, will be that is the 20 year end of as well. i have not covered for the same reason as well as big as arms fair. just down the road is not covered. people don't know about. it's not covered because
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it's not convenient to be covered because it carries an inconvenient truth. on september, the 11th 1973. as far as trillions are concerned, those who lost their those her last so many in the family to the horrendous savagery of penance shy and his american backers. that is the september 11th. that's the $911.00. it's never been around the world because we are so and i don't think brain washing is an exaggeration. we are, we are drowned in this synonymy of propaganda. that the, the center of the world, the center of importance is the and i to states the day to day
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the world changed. i don't think it was the day the world changed. actually. i think the world changed a lot before that during the korean war, when the americans decided they were going to become a true imperial power. i certainly changed for the fall of the berlin wall on many elbows. but we are, we, we condition to believe that everything around this one event, but only they deserve remembrance. not the people actually, only they deserve morning, not they are afraid of the woman with her sick, said children in afghanistan. it's that it's almost what we, we also backward in the, we've yet to achieve this equality of consciousness about human beings.
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but we, we, what happens in the united states that what matters. they also flows from that, as you just finish, i suppose, talking about julianna's entrepreneurship. after all was under house arrest and luxury home here, visit my dispatcher house arrest pending extradition means superman. jail for julian sarge. yes. yes, joe julian is i sat in court on the 11th of august to listen to a chief justice. i'm no longer surprising cause they come out and say this. try to describe it, a witness. and in, in something that i just thought was outrageous. but looking ahead on the 27th and 28th of obey a high court hearing on whether the united states is,
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is granted its appeal against the act, the, the bad, the, the bar on extradition of julian to the united states. it is probably in i think it's probably the most important legal day. certainly, if not in my lifetime, but it certainly in the market era, because it will say about free speech. it will say about journalism. it will say about our humanity. this is a man who's committed, no crime. who is chantal intellectual person? who has done what true journalists do any for that he is being punished. now, whether there is something of british justice left in the masonry of the tradition, re judiciary in britain. but on that day,
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a judges decide as to mask that he shall be frayed. i don't know joe bell. joe. thank you. that's the show. you can see john's hills for free, a job build. you don't come. we'll be back on saturday. the 20th anniversary of the september 11th attacks that catalyzed the invasion of afghanistan, but also 40 ideas since the ca, against socialist president, salvatore and there was handed power to fashion. a drug was to finish angel and bullets on social media for all the updates. from this new season to make sure to let us know what story is not seen in the mainstream you'd like us to cover ah, ah september the 11th 2001 day that reshape to the modern world. i remember watching the world trade center burn on
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a tv at the cia and i was standing there like this just looking at it. and a colleague of mine was standing next to me and he said, my god, did they have any idea what they've done? we're going to kill everybody now. everybody, the, the live tv images promote the us into declaring its war on terror. they've begun to bomb african villages and holmes and get people hurt and, and killed the main goal of destroying terrorism and then was it achieved? yes. and no, okay, to essentially no longer exists. good for us, but there are certainly other terrorist groups that are worse than i'll join me every thursday on the alex simon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the
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world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the present by didn't get the whole style reception from the american public anger over his handling of the gun. his son pull out as the 20th anniversary of $911.00 approaches, he explored the legacy of america. has warned tara in a series of special reports. today we're here from families who saw loved ones killed in a recent us drones striking cobble.

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