or exists good for us, but there are certainly other terrorist groups that are worse than the ahead of the anniversary of 911. he's been looking at the lasting impact of the us led war on terror. today. we'll be hearing from a british army that are in about the devastating toll of the 20 year afghan conflict. and to talk to many people, the situation which we just give a point. and also i had the taliban unveils it's new government for afghan. his dad, including a terrorist on the f, b i's most wanted live for washington, left with no other option that must cooperate with the him coming leadership. and

the australian high court rules that media companies can be held liable for defamatory 3rd party comments posted on their facebook pages. the decision didn't go down well with many news outlets. as we discussed with our panel. again, the needs to be accountability directly on those posting. the people are basically able to do their own research and looking into things that people claiming and the section has been mentioned. they can also what is that? a good question i broadcasting live from moscow to the world. this is our t international. i'm your host donald quarter. welcome to the program. almost 2 decades have passed since the tragedy of $911.00, the events that triggered america's war on terror. we're continuing to investigate

the lasting impact that the conflict has had on the lives of millions in our special project of on heard voices. the will use all tools at our disposal. killed our children to united states was bringing people to fortress. it was a pointless exercise among those who have paid the highest price for the afghan invasion were the $457.00 british personnel killed in action. but for those lucky enough to have made it home, many were still less left with lasting trauma was here for the account of trevor colt who served in the british army for 20 years. he saw 4 tours in ghana, stan, and received one of the case highest honors for his service. i take my life last year. i was in a wheel by the way, my mind ended. i nearly lost my son, and i didn't know what to do. a lot of the guys i was with don't really talk to each other any more. i mean there and to try to delete it, moves away,

so we'll put, put quite a few people lives in the last, but for 5 years, most recent is only a few months ago. i have been through hell and you're still living it. you just get a feeling of fear somebody wouldn't understand, you know, and given the order to kill someone and stuff you, people get upset of it. things today that, that don't maybe what i want. so i woke and my coffee,

i really just drink the coffee when i 1st went to the gallery, we were told that we were going to burn the poppy fields to the promised work. do not, not pawn changed, and we landed in our troops in a way that they haven't for many years are going to be fighting alongside other countries and situations of great danger. soonish are very good at taking orders and just getting on with it. i'm not questioning orders, but as you go through the years and you mature and you start to sort of have to bring in the things yourself and realize why we here. what do we think we know, look at castanan think it was a point this exercise. what's happening in the south of afghanistan, the residence about the taliban trying to get back power. ah, we want our way back. and the taliban had already got in the grind that we'd

already cleared. my friend, my really was just a couple, stood on one and died instantly, lost his arms and legs. i believe it's 17 casualties all from, from our group out of each of those casualties. you've got quite a few guys affected by what they've seen. it's trauma on top of trauma, it's a constant heights about, over a weeks and weeks and most ah u k. troops and deficient of what run the plot to a remorseless deadline. it, thanks to that colossal exertions this country has not been processed or checked, vetted, and ended more than 15000 people to safety in less than 2 weeks. i mean, it's been a complete mess,

hard by ins and ministration worked. what's the rational of his allies? it would've been, we were going to leave anyway, but we could have done it in a systematic approach. for instance, you don't even need to have a military mindset. the understand that if you're going to extract from a country, you bring back all your citizens from the embassy, put them into secure b. s, and then fly them. what you don't thing is flyers your military and angle. what about the, what about the civilians, thomas and i got sick at home be 616 weapon systems, 3 stars and bombs left behind. so that's munitions that can use for id. like last night i was watching that i watch a video of taliban dressed as us special forces moving in behind her to take control of fortune x. which you know, it's just unbelievable. we've lost too many people for situation which we just give up. the highly decorated former british army officer trevor colts. throughout the week we'll be hearing from more people both soldiers and civilians

whose lives were forever changed by america's longest war. that's in our special coverage on heard voices. 9 days after the u. s. pull out from afghanistan and the country has a new government and waiting and consists mostly of hard lying taliban militants. and the u. s. says it's in no rush to recognize the new regime. that said, the white house is added that it has no other option, but to work with the very terror group. it went to war against 20 years ago. their new acting interior minister is a tiny network terra these wanted for a bombing that killed 6 people, including americans believed to have participated in cross border attack against us troops. there's a $10000000.00 bounty on his head. why are we engaging? should we, should we not talk to the people who are overseeing of ghana, stan, and just leave it and not get the rest of the american citizens out with the international community is watching the united states as watching its whether they let people depart the country who want to depart,

whether they treat women across the country as they have committed to treat them and how they behave and operate, and therefore we're not moving toward recognition. at the same time, we're dealing with a reality world here. we have to engage in order to get american citizens and others out of the country. the taliban unveiled it's all male interim government. on wednesday, the military will be led by the son of the taliban founder and the interior minister is a militant wanted by in the us for deadly bombings, including a 2017 truck blast and couple that killed 150 people. taliban leadership will also include members of a u. s. designated terror who come as well as former guantanamo inmates. the president has been operating at a u. s. military base in cuba for 1900 years. in that time, almost $800.00 people have been held there without charge or trial any having been subjected to water boarding stress positions and sleep deprivation.

former ca analysts, john kerry aku who lifted the lid on abusive interrogations. in guantanamo told ortiz neil harvey, that he's still stands by his decision to speak out. i have 0 regrets. i will never have any regrets. somebody had to tell the american people that the government was committing crimes in their name. you know, when we try to convince the world that we are a shining beacon of human rights and respect for civil rights and civil liberties. and then they see us carrying out a torture program at secret prisons around the world. it just makes us look so hypocritical, i can understand why any country would want to emulate the united states in a situation like that. the end of this 20 year military campaign by the united states in afghanistan. did you ever imagine that it would and so quickly, so frantically. no, i didn't imagine so, and i don't think any americans did just like no american assumed in september or

october of 2001 that 20 years later we would be having this conversation. you know, president biden said just about a month ago that he believed that the african government could hold out for 6 more months. in fact, they held out for 6 days. and i think that that he gave that 6 month time because that's what he was told by the cia. and it just goes to show you that this was another intelligence failure in a long line of intelligence failures. i think the asked at the afghan people rightly resent united states for 20 years of occupation and then in the end, nothing to show for it, but death and destruction. we made this terrible, terrible mistake called nation building, where we decided that it was, it was incumbent upon us to impose a western style democracy on a country that never had any history of western style democracy. and then we

couldn't understand why it didn't stick. what we have to have is true and robust, congressional oversight, which we have not had in decades. what you see general is a group of congressional cheerleaders for the cia, the f, b i, the defense department, and the state department. and that has to stop. there has to be legitimate, true oversight, where members of congress tell the government to stop crimes are being committed and then we have to see those crime prosecuted and see the people who carried out those crimes punished. we haven't seen that in many, many years. meanwhile, the united nations human rights body has warned that afghan a stand is facing a total collapse in basic services with food and life. saving 8 about to run out is estimated at least $600000000.00, and $8.00 will be needed by the end of the year to prevent a catastrophe. the un also reports that nearly half of afghanistan's population of

38000000 people needs humanitarian aid. among them are 3 and a half 1000000 people internally displaced by the conflict. the red cross president peter mar, traveled to the country and visited medical facilities before meeting with the new afghan president. he also spoke with us on the one side, you will see all that these are the remnants of war. you see these camps, these vehicles, military vehicles. you see the struction where fighting has taken place, including in some of the cities like glasgow and others. and on the other hand, you see an normality of life in normal life. you see that this country is and has been affected by 40 years of war and by poverty. and the 2 together

create enormous human period meet we had a long conversation with my love at the deputy of now when our government has a very substantial conversation with him self and with some of his closer agent collaborators in order to ensure that the humanitarian space which is needed for a good, impactful, and usually humanitarian assistance are guaranteed. i think we got a lot of understanding and also good sense that we need for it to dialogues. as we move forward. the high court in australia has ruled that some of the country's largest media companies can now be held liable for comments that users post on their social media pages. the case was triggered by dylan bowler,

a former detainee and an australian youth detention center. he claims that negative comments posted on an image of him. shackleton, spit hood on social media were defamatory major news outlets including sky news and the sydney morning herald appealed to the ruling, saying they cannot be held responsible for 3rd party comments. the decision though, was upheld by the high court the acts of the appellants in facilitating encouraging and their boy assisting the posting of common spite. a 3rd party facebook uses rendered them publishers of those commons. the appellants attempts to betray themselves as passive and unwitting victims of facebook's functionality has an air of unreality. having take an action to secure the commercial benefit of the facebook functionality, the appellants bear the legal consequences. facebook has yet to comment on the court decision and the social network did add the ability to disable comments back in march of feature that australia news outlets may now be forced to use something

may say restrict freedom of speech. this decision was time. the exchange of ideas encouraging facebook uses to turn off a put unit is for comment. i called on australia's attorney general to address this normally and bring australian law into line with comparable western democracies. my colleague neal harvey discussed the issue earlier with our panel of guests. we need some accountability. yeah. that needs to be accountability directly on those posting the comments. and if you want to pursue those people, you can. but at the same time, if the media companies are encouraging this by doing what they publish on facebook and other platforms to generate interest to high rabble rousing, click bite, then they need to share some of the blame it. it supposes that people actually say, comment section, syria, most people read comments, re entertain. they know it's maybe

a bunch of yahoo's and most people are basically able to do their own research and looking into things that people claiming and the section. it's kind of a stretch to hold a publisher accountable for defamation or what have you, based on just what someone on the internet wants to say on their facebook feed fight. now for the attention by media organizations and they do use the comment section as a way of whipping up interest in a story that must be fully aware of the inflammatory things. that is said, the money's been very, very hateful and very defamatory on many subjects, but it serves that purpose. do they need to take more responsibility for? this is the double edge sword, the, the top issue because, you know, in one way we should take personal responsibility. we should be able, we should be allowed to have a freedom of speech regardless of what that is. and i hope that people have the wherewithal to know what to follow, what was more now with facebook. this outlook does not matter, has an audience of millions and millions of people. 1.2000000000 people around the

world. and so the audience is much, much larger, you're looking at a lot more chances for damages or onto one reputation. and so that's why i think, i think at the very low space that we should have been mentioned or, or look at. and part of that is having these large audiences because we know that they can also choose what is that and what goes in especially comments. but what is what we're saying here was that when an article published, even if they try not mention the name there, still, it's still be part of that article that have the comments. because you chose to put in your encouraging people to comment urging people to say things, whatever that might cause to a 3rd party or somebody else. and that is what they're looking at is that people a lot more people are going to read comments from john, go with 10 followers. if it's on some major tabloid article, or even any major news organizations, home and sections of any website, they seem like a kind of a double edged sword. seems like the companies enjoy them. maybe they kind of

create more interest. they generate a buzz around an article or a particular topic, but the, but also that come with that dangerous side that people will say, had a lot of hateful, potentially defamatory stuff. is this the best solution now, but what's being proposed or is there a better way to go? we have to start training. people smarter about how they take information and what they read online. most rational people. busy know when they're being misled, they know when something a quick page they know what the comments section and maybe pull it or they need to look into something more deeply, you know, as a free speech. absolutely. i think that if you want to go down this route, the owner of these to go on the owner of the property, which is facebook, you know, in new york times, if someone has a facebook page is the most common think you're kind of the owner page facebook got very clear of the service that based on owns everything you put on their site. so it does, it seems that the spacious that this comes down onto the publisher and not the publisher being the news organization and not basic it's so 1st of all,

within facebook they can show coming. and they're not particularly worried about having driving up a big device. i think for rule they can simply go in and secondly, toby, directly, if a comment appears in games on their all, they have to be given the opportunity to take it down. and therefore, if somebody points out, i'm a tree comment is being published and the public it publish as a publisher to do so, it's a publisher, ignore this opportunity and doesn't take down the very, very brightly the publisher should buy the music. the messaging service whatsapp prides itself on advanced encryption technology, which supposedly keeps your messages private, but it turns out most users are handing over far more data to the apps parent company facebook then thought r t is dimitri poke, has more everyone likes their privacy. and when you use

a messenger like whatsapp that keeps hammering on and on about how secure it is, you're inclined to believe that your private data stays well private. well, shocker, that's apparently not the case. what's up turns out to be, well, not that private and it's owner. facebook keeps paying hundreds of millions in fines for privacy violations. and that's after numerous promises from zocker berg about insuring a truly secure experience on their platforms. i believe the future of communication will increasingly shift to private encrypted services where people can be confident, what they say to each other, stay secure. this is the future i hope will help bring about that was back in 2019 and what was supposed to be the messenger to bring about a part of that private future. but come on, this is facebook we're talking about, according to a recent investigation by the pro public a platform, it turns out facebook actively undermined its security assurances. zone encrypted

data available for scrutiny is extensive. it includes the names and profile images of a uses. what's up groups, as well as their phone number profile, photo status, message phone, but your level language and time zone unique mobile phone id and ip address. and that's not all. other unencrypted data reportedly includes access to the users entire list of electronic devices. any related facebook or instagram accounts the last time they use the app and even a history of any previous violations, not exactly what you would call complete privacy, although a spokesperson for what did reiterate that users messages are still encrypted and are only seen when they are forwarded to the user submitted report system, the decisions we make around how we build out app. our focus around the privacy of our users maintaining a high degree of reliability and prevention abuse. but the company doesn't just stop at batting accounts, which have been reported by users. they also allegedly share all the information

they have with the justice department. apparently what's up? metadata played an important role in the arrest of a former senior advisory at the us treasury. natalie may edwards, who had been sent to prisoner for leaking, sensitive information to the media, describing how dirty money flows through us banks edwards has maintained. she leak the documents in a bid to expose corruption. my notice was accountability and american people had the right to know what was occurring with the treasury, and that it was a national security issue and that american lives were in jeopardy. instead of the government doing their job, they decided to come after a whistleblower with the increasing rate at which the u. s. government requests information from all facebook affiliated platforms. it's plausible to assume there will be more arrests based on may. the data in the near future. and while facebook promises but it cares about security and privacy, if it's users at the end of the day, it doesn't seem to have an issue collecting and giving out information to those who

ask for. it seems like the company is more concerned with stopping the spread of what they call disinformation. and with trying to assert their influence in politics, instead of actually remembering that they started as a social media site, it's true to say that nothing is really private nowadays, but that doesn't change the fact that when a company assures and promises its users that something will be encrypted and they, they will not be able to review the content of their messages when that trust is broke. i think that they should be entitled to, at least, frankly, at this point, some sort of compensation. there are different protections for consumers in every industry, but for some reason, tech companies seem to be the only ones out there that can, once again raise their on terms of service and for their customers trust with no consequences, largely. and i think it's about time that the actual elected officials in the world start asserting their power against these tech janes and reminding the silicon valley billionaires that no, they are not our rulers,

and that nobody elected them. they are not above the law. russia and its neighbor, bella roofs are moving towards closer integration. the leaders of the 2 countries met in moscow late on thursday and the ongoing spat between minsk and the european union over refugees was on top of the agenda as really a per tranquil explains. well now there's definitely a new reason for tension between the european union and bell roofs, which have already been locking horns for a while now because of many different issues in particular because of the attitude by brussels to the comp, think between the government and minsk, and the opposition there. now you can definitely add afghan refugees to that list. brussels has accused men's of taking advantage of this as a tool for pressure on the european blog. now, on the other hand, bell ruse is saying that the european union is turning

a blind eye on how poland and lithuania are mis treating the african refugees and on how they are pretty much taking them out of the country, back into bellows. during the press conference, the journalists asked the 2 presidents whether moscow and mens were ready to react to all that's accordingly with some joint action. a lot of my potent replied that this is not a rush of business, because here we're talking about the border between poland and bell rouge, between lithuania and bruce, but the russian president did go on to criticize the european union. what he meant was that european countries are in touch with the taliban. however, they are refusing to talk to the bell. russian government directly, which never came to power as a result of an armed take over with you. my answer is go and talk to the bell. original authorities, european countries talk about the catastrophe. enough chemist on blame themselves for leaving the people the but some african refugees have been pushed out of europe

towards better rushes borders with lithuania and poland. i don't understand this logic, you can blame dollars for anything, but at least taking the afghans went to push them out to back to get this done. but then will they ask us to get them out of there again, there is no logic. a much wider discussion on the issue of refugees and other security issues related to again, a stand is expected next week when alexander lucas shantell and vladimir putin will be joined by other heads of state from the region induce on bay. that's the capital to g. stand all the about 200 kilometers away from of ghana. stan this only proves how crucial these issues are at this point. but it also shows how the most important regional players, such as russia and china, along with their post. soviet allies are ready to deal with all that together. well, that's the news for this. our coming up next is news,

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reach as their territory of control is rapidly expanding. my job is prison is to protect all americans. so the night i'm announcing that the department of labor is developing an emergency rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employ over 80000000 workers to ensure their work forces are fully vaccinated. or show a negative test at least once a week. president biden aside, 7, congress issuing an executive order mandating the cobra 1900 vaccine for all federal employees. and contractors are going to give you the free 60 view on this historical order which could opened pandora's box regarding government control over individual health care and more coming to everyday transactions like lunch paid with you or debit card or venmo for sports tickets could trigger an audit from the

i r s, they eventually intrusive financial surveillance systems is in the works. we will tell you how the by the ministration is justifying the new move. then new documents reveal officers with the l. a. p. d were directed to collect a social media information from every individual they interacted with, including those were not even accused of a crime. what was the purpose and is this happening in other cities? we're going to give you some answers. and while it seems like the u. s. government is focused on the private lives and their own citizens, they have been ignoring iran, new government, desire to accelerate their nuclear program, will bring you the latest. and if a new around nuclear deal could be in the works without much input from the united states, lot to cover. so let's get down to the news with the 360 view and on your host. got email. ah,

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