this week, his name is edward snowden. edward snowden, reportedly has the blueprint documents of how our country's national secrete security agency operate documents lead by an essay contractor. edward snowden reveal details of a secret intelligence sharing agreement that shows the u. s. government hand it over intercepted communications containing phone calls and emails of us citizens that didn't lead to the law being overturned. top officials still insist that it's necessary for government success in preventing and other catastrophic attack on the american homeland would have been much more difficult if not impossible, without the u. s. a patriot act. amid all the government, spying, it was necessary to find an enemy. the muslim community was soon in the cross hairs targeted by law enforcement was things and entrapment. all done supposedly to keep us safe from another 911. the federal tech was the stepping stone for it became open season on american muslims. there are no rules. the government just said let's go up to moves. limbs. the war on terror created the perfect atmosphere for racism,

discrimination clamp downs on civil liberties and government spying. it's been 20 years that war continues with all its fear and manipulation with no end in sight. caleb martin r t new york and he was not into national and the 20th anniversary of the 911 terror attacks will be back with more analysis and coverage to up to date events. the top of the the the the with time action returns. here we're going underground for $911.00 special coming up in

the show on the 20th anniversary of atrocities in new york and washington d. c, which catalyzed mass aerial bombing of afghanistan. we talk to the taliban about victory against the nato occupation. and what about the $911.00? the so called landed, the free arguably forgot. pink floyd front man, roger waters tells us why the u. s. a isn't morning on the 48 anniversary of the chilean coup it back which created penetrates, brutal, chicago style satcher. i think it will make experiment. it would be forced on nations all around the world. well, there's more coming up in today's going underground, but 1st, it's been 20 years in new york and washington came under attack in nature. nations was fatal terror atrocity. and of course, led to 20 years of violence, u. s. u k occupation of afghanistan. but nato defeat has what the taliban back in control? joining me now from john carter is the taliban spokesperson. so hell, shane sales. thank you so much for coming back. gone. so it's widely reported that the taliban may have selected september, the 11th for the new leadership to take the oath of office significance for 911

as the as the day of the o. so just go incident. i cord, sir, but i do not have your teeth like me. i will. we are no 119 a one time i was there when i was and i'm wondering if we wonder, we are part of our corporation now to to find out her grades. so not our pastor, surely a story, but there are we harder talk 9 in the 100000. all of them may work. all those up one so i don't know how did not know yet new york, situated. and what's mine?

anyone was yeah, we've covered on this program. not one afghan was involved in the hijacking of those aeroplanes 20 years ago. but i did notice your colleague who had the merger he'd, he said to n b. c. no proof that been loudon was involved in 911. is that the taliban view? i mean they have that is up to the media. goes well, why and wall and don't better after them not ask for are they saying we are a wall so that means they might as calmer from santander to us?

no, i want, it was not i got to have any for it was not then and it is not right now, new afghan involved, but we know that been loudon was involved. i worked for al jazeera arabic, a show produced funded by cuts are when you're speaking to me from college shake. mama was discovered by the program. i was working for working for a summer, been logged in to make the 911 attacks. in fact, he was, is trial began on tuesday again at guantanamo bay. it is the view, surely that some of been loud and was responsible for the $911.00 attacks emperor. he said that i am in wrong. i do not know about that, but yeah, knowledge is that means that he will be more if he and i cannot you so or will

here not know about director of your i hate we were listed as that is your job on my new one. while i'm on was wondering that yes, but i mean, is it difficult for you to admit when latin was involved? because the founder of the taliban, molo mom said i don't want to go down in history as someone who betrayed a guest. we have given him a summer, been not refuge. i cannot throw him out. when the americans, of course, asked for a samo been law to be sent to the americans for questioning birth. he was telling our leadership i nothing was now. obviously, what followed 911 was torture in guantanamo bay by us authorities rendition

flights. we have julian, a son journalist, in jail, in london here for blowing the whistle on nato war crimes. but you know that to all around the world, there are pictures now of the to report is from at the last rose. never to la knocked the tucking. dairy. i'll be beaten by taliban authorities. taller news is why he dot moody was at his camera, confiscated. what is happening to journalism in afghanistan? is it illegal about? there are no problem there. with the new 140 of course should have permission on the interior which side of 2. and they want to gather at him and also the issue they walker to expression here. come sure me about not there that

are in the past for well or for the future without paying for that product either be and we were using land or solving to approve the actual green or who we were trying to enter the policy while he had the loop or so that there are some ices here members who are the mom station the monster wanted to kind of then show my policy here are be and how that is why you our, our work compared to stop me and maybe a little bit harsh them back to me, what are the, what

a lot on the street. yeah. i mean i, i have been stopped as a journalist here in london covering demonstrations ne apartment. and as i told you, julian, his arms tortured according to the un here in london. but you saw the pictures of those 2 journalists and then much will enact the intact to be, i mean, they were beaten really badly. flogged. that's, that's not on. surely. we will not go longer because i generally are because they want to finally got water from the most ancient. no, they're not policy that they can back her. but what's your question back to some more you know, we want to kind of our summer forwarding new mon station they want or polish out there.

yeah. so that was the main reason. i'll come back and read you off on the back to my militia that yeah. right. criticized by the army about okay. i mean the women who had demonstrating say they weren't i, susan, they would just demonstrating for normal rights. meanwhile, apparently the taliban is saying the u. s a is violating the agreement after these new appointees to the government have been made. just does the taliban consider the f, b i a terrorist group, the f b i right now has a $5000000.00 bounty on sir edge in connie is the f, b i a terrorist group or she will be happy with the

negatives. and the next is on the do you like a member object, cleary, commissioners, that remove all our leisure from the prize winners and also from ocean. so they have, they have commitment and obligation to go to remove this matter. they have not heard that there are no soon so far they have not i think it is a issue. now of course the biggest challenge will be the economy, that alone, all the human rights concerns that might might help the economy. what are you going to do about all the money stolen frozen by the united states in

the new york banks? and is that related to you talking to russia, talking to china, interested in built in road. we have entered that increased risk we weren't or where to, well, i will state for our paper. we want are creating jobs, parking spot our or do we want to eradicate or the power key for our are the people of the district. but they've taken your money, so what are you going to do about getting your money back yet? yeah, that is why i'm say we want to kind of sort of run this on renewed. let me call the expansion indication facility. and i've got a concert we can always, peterson, you want this man who we are doing this money. we need your money part of the people. so i don't know the rational reason that they have approved many why the

people of alarm sun, new york money, yours is oppression. part of your political. what do i think there is that is there are 2, i mention to one right now you mentioned isis earlier. of course, britain and the united states were connected, arguably to isis in syria when they tried to overthrow outside of syria. will the taliban talk to us about fighting isis? that is been accused of being linked to britain in the united states against the outside government in damascus. will not once you have discovered provided the doctor fighting. 6 against us, because now it is and it's loudly brought to me. they have no justification. are to continue fighter honor and talk. hi greg meeker. just finally i have

to ask what you like now talking for the taliban government. i know that boris johnson here in london, said, britain, western forces should be proud of the legacy in afghanistan. what's it like to be the spokesperson of the new afghan government? i think how one should be proud of all for the region of other countries. every one say that a country where will we will say we are proud. it is not correctional. we are proud of what we have done because what we did, it was part of the liberation up or county or ending approbation. michigan that, that he ever cried. so this has

a rational not there that are in other countries, tell the other person just call religious and destroy hundreds of 1000 of hundreds of pounds and people and we are all right. got a proud of this. so i think there is cases i asked him thank you. after the break, we speak to pink floyd front man roger waters about the death of again the and the arguably forgotten. 911, chilly still tries to recover from 48 years after september. the 11th or more coming up and bought 2 of going underground ah ah,

the welcome back as well as the 2001911 today marks another arguably forgotten anniversary in the united states. 48 years in a back chilean coup that overthrew salvatore and then replace it with british back to finish a death squads. joining me now from new york city is a pink floyd front man, roger waters. who's making you film on victor. gillian, sing a song writer, anatomist who was tortured and killed during the chicago school economic ex and then spread neoliberalism all around the world. raja thanks so much for coming back . we'll get to victor guerara and the other 911. in a moment. again, i know you're in new york, but you weren't there for the atrocities because you were you actually here in britain, but 20 is on. what does it mean to you? 911. and the aftermath was huge. may stuff that you and that she really, i was actually working in in some recording studios. i was making some demos in

london on that fateful day. and i managed to make a connection with my then wife in new york, and we had a long phone conversation as we sat watching tv sets on opposite sides and like everybody else, i was completely cups my and shocked and, and, but in my infinite, naive, itchy, i invented a scenario in my head where the american people would take this is a wakeup call and a fact that they needed to look at themselves and try and figure out what this was about and why it happened. and, and i really honestly for, for a number of hours, nathan, a number of days believes that that might happen. and of course it didn't, they went charging down this retribution part retribution and invaded afghanistan.

and so, and started the global war on terror, that has to almost destroy the world. i would say the global war on terror. not the attacks on new york and 911 disastrous as they were. so obviously they were exponentially has the global war on terror empowered extremism on all levels from all factions? not just j hodges, you know, from the middle east and elsewhere. but all of us have been encouraged to spend more and more about energy on destroying each other. and the world rather than using our energy to so evident problems the faces or so it is time for grave reflection. 20 years later i was 587 today. no. yeah. oh, you can go on to it with no. but in terms of those,

the enlightening the enlightenment, that you sought after the attacks in fantasy, the working class in the united states. and they did a little vaux pubs interviewing people on the streets they were doing. but why would anyone hate the united states? how could anyone hate the united states? and it was the surprising shock on the faces of ordinary americans that perhaps lingers in the mind because so much of the secret state is hidden from everyday life in the united states. while it was explained to them almost immediately afterwards, been large and among others saying, well it, it's your kind of slavish report of the state of israel and its treatment of palestinian people was one extremely important thing. but the other thing was to slavish support. the states of saudi arabia, which was done in exchange for rights to usual, the oil that was under the does it there. and there was,

it was an arrangement made as i understand it by f d. all in his last days with whoever was the king of saudi arabia, then king of july. but of course, that's what remains today. and as increased. yeah, let me say completely israel and saudi arabia. yes. and both of those areas of support going entirely against everything that america claims for itself is shining. city on the l i claims to believe in human rights and democracy needs for which things pertain either to israel or to saudi arabia in any degree. and so, so, so in consequence it is, it's, it's a standout, it's a stand out example of how things go wrong. when you say, you believe one thing. but when your actions actually demonstrate to exactly the

opposite side, the raven israel rejected. they aren't part of this city on the hill american dream, but just explain them to us. why in the global south 911 mean something else. and why may you know peak of it in our circle, mainstream media in nature, nations, the significance of 911973 in santiago. well last because because that attaches to a much more fundamental issue even than the better, like meeting between f d r o b. you said he was because september the 11th 1973 was when pino sherry and, and some of the military act, the presidential palace in santiago and murdered, i in day. who was the juliet that democratic

elected president of junior recent history book say it was suicide, of course. well, of course they do. yeah. but i actually, i've been in the room where he died because i had a meeting with yerra, who's president again now he was president in 2012. when i performed my page, the wall in the national stadium. in sunday i'll go and she lay and father, good office is then you k a master. there's a lovely man who jump benjamin. hey john dunaway, you are brother. i have very strong matrix of work with a foreign office will pass that hello. well anyway, so i went, i had a what do you call it? and the audience with el presidente,

where he lied through his teeth to me. and i actually went on the radio the next day and explained he did this thing. i was slightly passing on messages that i've had from student organizations saying why the military eyes militarized police out in the streets, murdering students, protesting against me, a liberal economics in this country. and pineda said to me that i have been searching 100 casualties in the projects around the universities and 1100 of them which the late and i feel f may wow, i look at that's how they do it. they do it with a smile. and it's obviously nonsense, you know, because they were quite a number of young people killed back in the day in 2012, as they have been recently, they shoot their eyes out now in santiago. and they've been printed, as you know,

they're in protest all over south america. that's one of the things that encourages people like may to believes that there is just a possibility out there that we may, might be heading for a future. well, we might be able to like, collectively it, we invite him bass will know that london will deny any human rights abuses. but yeah, you mentioned that chicago sally economics resist. hatcher, of course, friendly with the machine when he was pending extradition here in britain. within some people won't even realize how their way their economies work, how societies work was based on this little experiment. they did all be at that they kept the copper nationalist and privatize the rest. yeah. one why they didn't private choice to cope and that's always, that's always been a question mark that has stood out. but nevertheless, they used, you know, all the water and she lay low, cool people. she lay on people,

farmers, land, people who worked on the land use to use to grow crops that by 8 and the stain, the nation. not all of it, but a lot of it is now used to grow avocado perez, so that we can sit in front of the super bowl leads in guacamole. and it's, and from why, near liberal economics of the state, because you can make money out of air, it's a short thing because the water does not last and whose water is it anyway this, the question of the ownership of water is so fundamental to all conversations that we have, you know, i've been working a little bit more on my standing rock project, is that there's a movie that i'm involved in, called the sacred in the snake. water protectors, the indigenous peoples this globe who,

who are warming themselves into ot protection unix acting so on behalf of the rest of us who don't get it. we turn on a chat. and unless we live in flint, michigan, so basically usable water comes out of that. well, very privatize here. i should add by just wanted to quickly get onto victor. victor herrera, of course. because i mean though i end of course died in the qu. great here. all the social democrat, really, and we have pebble and the router talking about water, who was victor herrera? to hi was a young teacher who, who was also a singer songwriter who became politically motivated during those years leading up to the election of i n days. the president of today and the institution of a new social framework in that country and to became extremely

popular. he wrote a sort of theme song by n days campaign. it was picked up and became extremely popular on the street. and of course, he, when the crew started to happen, he went to the university to be with his colleagues and whatever. and he was arrested and he was kept there and he was tortured and they, and he was killed on the 16th of september. so 5 day, 5 days after the qu, they murdered victor, harder and so along with many others, she has become a great national, quite right to the a great national hero. recently in the troubles in san diego, i covered one of his most famous songs with, which is their actual day pass. yeah. saying we, everyone has

a right and the rachel dave revere on pass to live in page and great lyric and how he is and how much we still need to hold on to the idea that we, the people actually have a right to live in this endless wall, which is what the war on terror is that came from the other 911, is not working for any of us except with the possible exception. obviously, of people invested in the military industrial complex for making billions and billions and billions of trillions. it's a way of axing ordinary people because the money go the money taken from the taxes of ordinary working people, goes a lot of it goes to the pentagon and then it did out much. all the people who invest in defense,

they protect them by spreading them out into 52 states or how many states there are now. so every stage in the union has got a little bit of the war in industry. and in consequence, most of their representatives in congress in the senate now spirit presents chairs come under pressure from their little arms industry, not to come military spending or not to cut the budgets and, and in consequence, huge proportion of the tax revenue of the $900.00 states government goes into perpetual war. roger waters, thank you. and that's for this $911.00 show will be back on monday. when we go to the arabian embassy and i'm going to meet the new investor motion bar event about afghan. this done what it's like to be selling by the british foreign office and the bias in nature, nation, media, angel, and keep in touch by all that social media and tell us which 911 you think it's more devastating.

ah welcome to maximize or might as well survival guide looking forward to your best this is what happens the benches in britain delegate. you watch kaiser report the part doesn't seem like 20 years ago. it was just never ending funeral in new york for a while. to decades in the worst terror attack in modern history, the world remembers the thousands who died in 911 and the 20th anniversary. we talk to witnesses with that day. also this, we continue on in depth investigation and the impact the american war on terror that followed and speak to former guantanamo detainees on the horrors stay funds.

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