ah, i mention returns here we're going underground for 911 special coming up in the show on the 20th anniversary of atrocities in new york in washington d. c, which catalyzed mass aerial bombing of afghanistan. we talked of the taliban about victory against the nato occupation. and what about the $911.00? the so called land in the free, arguably forgot. pink floyd front men, roger waters tells us why the usa isn't morning. on the 14th anniversary of the chilean coup it back which created penetrates, brutal chicago style saturated could make experiment. it would be forced on nations all around the world. will this more coming up in today's going underground? first? it's been 20 years in new york and washington came under attack and major nations was fatal terror atrocity. and of course, led to 20 years of violent u. s. u. k. occupation of afghanistan. but nature defeat is what the taliban back

in control. joining me now from john carter is the taliban spokes person. so hell, shane sales. thank you so much for coming back. gone. so it's widely reported that the taliban may have selected september. the 11th for the new leadership to take the oath of office significance for 911 as the as the day of the o. so just go incident. i got caught sir, but i do not have your teeth. becker me, me, are you? well, we are no 11191101 . and i'm wondering if we wonder, we need our preparation to to find out her grades. so not even our pastor, surely a story. but there are we so far as that is our top 9 in the 100000.

all of them were all those up one. so i don't know how did not know yet new york situated and what 9 anyone was? yeah, we've covered on this program. not one afghan was involved in the hijacking of those aeroplanes 20 years ago. but i did notice your colleague level you had the merger he'd, he said to n b c. no proof that been logan was involved in 911. is that the taliban view? i mean they have that is up to you was why was and better of them not for i be saying

a wall so that means they might as calmer from santander to us. no one was, it was not what i took to have any data that was not then and it is not right now, new afghan involved. but we know that been lardy was involved. i worked for al jazeera arabic, a show, produced, funded by cuts are where you're speaking to be from. and college shake mohammed was discovered by the program. i was working for working for a summer, been logged in to make the 911 attacks. in fact, he was, is trial began on tuesday again at guantanamo bay. it is the view, surely that a sum of in london was responsible for the $911.00 attacks

emperor. he said that i am in wrong. i do not know about that, but yeah, knowledge is that means that he will be more if he and i cannot you so or will here not know about director of your i hate we were listed as that is your job on my new one. while i'm on was wondering yes, but i mean, is it difficult for you to admit when louden was involved because the founder of the taliban molo mom said i don't want to go down in history as someone who betrayed a guest. we have given him a lot of refuge. i cannot throw him out. when the americans, of course, asked for a samo been love to be sent to the americans for questioning

birth. he was telling our leadership i nothing was now. obviously what followed 911 was torture. in guantanamo bay, by us authorities, rendition flights. we have julian, a son journalist, in jail, in london here for blowing the whistle on nato war crimes. but you know that the all around the world, there are pictures now of a to report is from at the last rose, never to knock the be beaten by taliban authorities. taller news is why he'd monday was that his camera confiscated what is happening to journalism in afghanistan. is it illegal? no, no problem there with their new reporting, of course, or should handbook by militia on the interior. and they

want to gather him and also the issue they want her to express your coming about, not that bad or in the past or for the future without paying for the cooper the state, sir. and we were using for walking lang. we're going to be actually not or who to your coarser portion. and also we were trying to turn up into politics. while we had to report that dr. some ice is here, members are holding our station, the monster wanted to kind of venture to speak. and that is why our,

our work compared to stop me and maybe here rather harsh them back to because they want to be what a search quickly create a lot on the street. yeah, i mean, i have been stopped as a journalist here in london covering demonstrations near parliament. and as i told you, julian, his arms tortured according to the un here in london. but you saw the pictures of those 2 journalists that much will enact the impact the very i'll be, i mean, they were beaten really badly flogged. that's. that's not on. surely. we were not there longer because we are now generalist on because they finally got from the station. no, no, it's not policy. and they can back her back. what's your question back to some more you know,

we want to kind of out some forwarding demonstration or inter shannon polish. carry out their temperature. so the back back was the main reason. i'll come back and read off one bird back to my taking that. yeah. right. criticize them by the them about their suitors. ok. i mean the women's demonstrating say they want isis and they would just have demonstrating for normal rights. meanwhile, apparently the taliban is saying the usa is violating the doe agreement after these new appointees to the government have been made. just does the taliban

consider the f, b i a terrorist group, the f b i right now has a $5000000.00 bounty on sir edge in connie is the f b i a terrorist group, or she or were we? were they negative? and the next is on the do i need you like a member? clearly commissioners remove all our leaders from the prize winners and also from tension. i'm sure they have. we have commissions and their obligation to go to remove this and they have not heard that there so far they have not. i think it is a why issue. now of course, the biggest challenge will be the economy that alone,

all the human rights concerns that might, might help the economy. what are you going to do about all the money stolen frozen by the united states in the new york banks? and is that related to you, talking to russia, talking to china, interested in belton road. we have inter cruise their school, but we weren't, are there too. well, i will state on our paper. we want to create job opportunities for our or do we want to eradicate their power key? often our people in general, but they've taken your money. so what are you going to do about getting your money back? yeah, yeah, that is why i'm say we want to kind of sort of run on renewed money for expansion facility and i've got a concert. you can always peters and you want this man who we are doing this

money. need your money part of the people have one son. so i don't know that action on that they have approved this money. why the people about my son needs that money? yours is oppression. part of your political. what do i think there is that is, i saw, i mention that one right now. you mentioned isis earlier. of course, britain and the united states were connected, arguably to isis in syria when they tried to overthrow outside of syria. will the taliban talk to us about fighting isis? that is been accused of being linked to britain in the united states against the outside government. in damascus will not once you have discovered provided the doctor fighting against us because

now it is going to me they have no justification nor to continue fighter honors talk. hi, greg meeker. just finally, i have to ask, what's it like now talking for the taliban government? i know that boris johnson here in london said britain. western forces should be proud of the legacy in afghanistan. what's it like to be the spokesperson of the new afghan government? i think how one should be proud of all for the region of other countries. so everyone see that other country will we will say we are proud. it is not, i think the rational we are proud of what we have done because we're what we did.

it was part of the liberation up or county, or ending approbation, michigan. that, that he ever cried. so this has a rational, then they're not there that are in other countries help people other color really do and destroy hundreds of 1000 k hundreds of pounds and people and we are all right. got a proud of this. so i think there are 2 cases. i asked him thank you. after the break, we speak to pink floyd front man roger waters about the death of i in the and the arguably forgotten $911.00 chillies still tries to recover from 48 years after september. the 11th. all of them all coming up and bought 2 of going underground.

the thing in the koran attributed to the prophet mohammed, the dreams are threefold. sometimes they represent divine guidance, sometimes sorrow from the devil, and sometimes there about the conflicts of dated living and past events. this applies also to women's rights in afghanistan, today, encouraged in the past to live out their dreams of being fully fledged human beings, african women. and now being told that this amounts to satanic possession when they turn to and on what can they count in this time of existential struggle? ah, a lot drugs noted as a way to come back a great for what's the wonder?

it's part of the attitude of the nation, not just of north dakota, and it got to be something that you could get elected. this time, the fight against drugs took a check and told us that andrew was competing short form. this is way too dangerous for him to be doing. clearly they put him in harm's way. a rural college student does interest get shot in the head and found in a river like that. something else had to be happening. the the in the the welcome back as well as the 21911 today marks another arguably forgotten anniversary in the united states. 48 years in

a back chilean coup that overthrew salvador a end and replaced it with british back to finish a death squads. joining me now from new york city is a pink floyd front man roger waters. who's making a new film on victor. julian, singer songwriter, an activist who was tortured and killed during the chicago school economic experiments that spread neoliberalism all around the world. raja thanks so much for coming back. we'll get to victor guerara and the other 911. in a moment. again, i know you're in new york, but you weren't there for the atrocities because you are, you are actually here in britain, but 20 is on. what does it mean to you? 911. and the aftermath was huge. may stuff. cartoon that she really, i was actually working in in some recording studios i was, i was making some demos in london on that fateful day. and i managed to make a connection with my then wife in new york, and we had a long phone conversation is watching tv said so size land and like everybody

else. i was completely cups my and shocked and, and, but in my infinite naive it, she, i invented a scenario in my head where the american people would take this is a wakeup call and a fact that they needed to look at themselves and try and figure out what this was about and why it happened and, and i really, honestly for, for a number of hours, nathan, a number of days believe that that might happen. and of course it didn't, they went charging down this retribution part of retribution and invaded afghanistan. and so, and started the global war on terror that has served to almost destroy the world, i would say the global war on terror. not the attacks on new york and 911

disastrous as they were. so obviously they were exponentially has the global war on terror empowered extremism on all levels from all factions? not just j hodges, you know, from the middle east and elsewhere. but all of us have been encouraged to spend more and more about energy on destroying each other. and the world rather than using our energy to so evident problems the faces. so it is time for grave reflection. 20 years later i was 587 today though. yeah. oh, you can go on to it with no. but in terms of those, the enlightening enlightenment that you sought after the attacks in fantasy, the working class in the united states. and they did a little vaux books interviewing people on the streets they were doing. but why would anyone hate the united states? how could anyone hate the united states?

and it was the surprising shock on the faces of ordinary americans that perhaps lingers in the mind because so much of the secret state is hidden from everyday life in the united states. while it was explained to them almost immediately afterwards, been large and among others saying, well it, it's your kind of slavish report of the state of israel and its treatment of palestinian people was one extremely important thing. but the other thing was to slavish support. the states of saudi arabia, which was done in exchange for rights to usual, the oil that was under the does it there, and there was, it was arranged and made as i understand it by f d. all in his last days with whoever was the king of saudi arabia,

then king of july. but of course that's what remains today. and it increased. yeah, let me say completely israel and saudi arabia. yes. and both of those areas of support going entirely against everything that america claims for itself is shining. city on the l i claims to believe in human rights and democracy needs for which things pertain either to israel or to saudi arabia in any degree. and so, so, so it, in consequences, it is, it's, it's a standout, it's a stand out example of how things go wrong. when you say, you believe one thing. but when your actions actually demonstrate to exactly the opposite side, the raven israel reject the day, aren't part of this city on the hill american dream. but just explain them to us.

why in the global south 911 mean something else. and why may hope be covered in our circle, mainstream media in nature, nations, the significance of 911973 in santiago. well last because, because that attaches to a much more fundamental issue even than the better, like meeting between f t r, whoever you said he was because september the 11th 1973 was when pino shay and, and, and some of the military act, the presidential palace in santiago and murdered i in day, who was the juliet elected? democratic elected president of junior recent history book say it was suicide, of course. well, of course they do. yeah. but i actually,

i've been in the room why he died because i had a meeting with yerra, who's president again now he was president in 2012. when i perform my page, the wall in the national stadium. in sunday i'll go and she lay and father, good office is then you k, a master. who's a lovely man? john benjamin. hey, john dunaway, brother. i have very strong matrix of our work with a foreign office. we'll pass that. hello. well anyway, so i went, i had a what do you call it? an audience with el presidente, where he lied through his teeth to me. and i actually went on the radio the next day and explained he did this thing. i was slightly passing on messages that i've had from student organizations saying why the military eyes

militarized police out in the streets. murdering students, protesting against me, a liberal economics in this country. and pineda said to me that i have been searching and 100 casualties in the protests around the universities and 1100 of them which the leak. and i feel f may wow. look at that's how they do. they do it with a smile, and it's obviously nonsense. you know, because they were quite a number of young people killed back in the day in 2012, as they have been recently, they shoot their eyes out now in santiago. and they've been printed, as you know, they've been protests all over south america. that's one of the things that encourages people like may to believes that there is just a possibility out there that we may, might be heading for a future. well,

we might be able to act collectively. we invite his ambassador will no doubt that london will deny any human rights abuses. but yeah, you mentioned that chicago sally economics resist. hatcher, of course, friendly with been a shame when he was pending extradition here in britain. within some people won't even realize how the way their economies work, how societies work was based on this little experiment. they did all be at that they kept the copper nationalist and privatize the rest. yeah, i wonder why they didn't private choice to call because that's always, that's always been a question. not that has stood out. but nevertheless, they used, you know, all the water in chill, a local people, she lay on people, farmers land, people who worked on the land use to use to grow crops that by 8. and that's a stain the nation. not all of it, but

a lot of it is now used to grow avocado perez, so that we can say in terms of the super bowl rates in guacamole. and it's, and why near liberal economics, i'll be a say, because you can make money out of there. it's a short term thing because the water does not last and who's more to reach it anyway. the question of the ownership of water is so fundamental to all conversations that we have. you know, i've been working a little bit more on my standing rock project, is it? there's a movie to vote in called the sacred in the snake. water protects the indigenous peoples this globe who, who are warming themselves into ot protection your next? i think so on behalf of the rest of us who don't get it. we turn on a chat. and unless we live in flint, michigan, so

a fake lea usable water comes out of that. well, they're very privatized here. i should add, by just want to quickly get onto victor, victor herrera, of course, because i mean the why end of course died in the qu. great here all the social democrat, really. and we have pamela and the router talking about water, who was victor herrera? there was a young teacher who, who was also a singer songwriter who became politically motivated during those years leading up to the election of i n days, the president of chile and the institution of a new socialist framework in that country. and to became extremely popular. he wrote a sort of theme song by n days campaign. it was picked up and became extremely popular on the street. and of course he, when the crew started to happen,

he went to the university to be with his colleagues and whatever. and he was arrested. and he was kept there and he was tortured and they, and he was killed on the 16th of september. so 5 day, 5 days after the code they murdered the victor harder. and so along with many others, he has become a great national quite right to the a great national hero. recently in the troubles in san diego, i covered one of his most famous songs with that, which is actually a day pass. yeah. saying we, everyone has a right at the right show, dave revere on pass to live in page and great lyric and how right he is. and how much was still need to hold on to the idea that we, the people actually have

a right to live in this endless wall. which is what the war on terror is that came from the other 9. knew that been is not working for any of us except with the possible exception. obviously, of people invested in the military industrial complex for making billions and billions and billions of trillions about its way of axing ordinary people because the money, the money taken from the taxes of ordinary working people goes a lot of it goes to the pentagon and then it's david, out of my soul, of people who invest in defense. they protect them by spreading them out into all 52 states or how many states there are now. so every stage in the union has got a little bit of the war industry. and in consequence, most of their representatives in congress and the senate now spirit presents chairs

come under pressure from dad to the arms industry, not to cut military spending or not to cut the budgets and, and in consequence, huge proportion of the tax revenue or financial state government goes into perpetual war. roger waters. thank you. and that's for this $911.00 show will be back on monday. when we go to the arabian embassy in london, just meet the new investor, most of our vans about afghan. this done what it's like to be someone by the british foreign office and the bias in natal nation, media, angel, and keep in touch by all that social media and tell us which 911 you think it's more devastating? ah, today, march the 20th anniversary of the 911 attack. we're going to take

a look at america terror, industrial complex the ah, the theme like 20 years ago. it was just never ending funeral in new york for a while to decades own from the worst terror attack in modern history. the world remembers the thousands who died in 911 on the 20th anniversary, we told 2 witnesses were there that day. also this, we continue or in depth investigation and the impact to the american war on terror that followed and speak to former guantanamo detainees. about the horrors they said . they had a found a woman.