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with dimension returns here. we're going underground for $911.00 special coming up in the show on the 20th anniversary of atrocities in new york in washington d. c, which catalyzed mass aerial bombing of afghanistan. we talk to the taliban about victory against the nato occupation. and what about the 911, the so called land in the free, arguably forgot? pink floyd front men, roger waters tells us why the u. s. a isn't morning on the 48 anniversary of the chilean coup it back which created penetrates, brutal, chicago style saturated. he could make experiment. it would be forced on nations all around the world. will this more coming up in today's going underground 1st? it's been 20 years in new york and washington came under attack and major nations was fatal terror atrocity. and of course, led to 20 years of violent

u. s. u. k. occupation of afghanistan. but nature defeat is what the taliban back in control. joining me now from john carter is the taliban spokes person. so hell, shane sales. thank you so much for coming back. gone. so it's widely reported that the taliban may have been selected september. the 11th for the new leadership to take the oath of office significance for 911 as the as the day of the o. so just go incident. i cord, sir, but i do not have your teeth. becker me, me, are you? well, we are no 1191101 . and i'm wondering if we wonder, we are part of our preparation now to to find out her grades.

so not our pastor. surely a 3, but there are we harder? on top 9 in the 100000. all of them may work. all those up one know how did not know yet new york situated and what my anyone was. yeah, we've covered on this program. not one afghan was involved in the hijacking of those aeroplanes 20 years ago. but i did notice your colleague when you had the merger, he'd he said to n b c. no proof that been logan was involved in 911. is that the taliban view? i mean they have that is up to you

why and walder and those are better after them not for i be saying a wall. so that means they might as far as it is concerned or to ask no, i want it was not i got to have any data. that was not then and it is not right now. yeah. no, ask, getting involved. but we know that been loudon was involved. i worked with al jazeera arabic, a show produced funded by kata are when you're speaking to me from college shake. mama was discovered by the program. i was working for working for a summer. been logged in to make the 911 attacks. in fact, he was is trial began on tuesday again at guantanamo bay. it is the view surely

that some of been loud and was responsible for the $911.00 attacks. so, emperor, he said that i am in wrong. i do not know about that, but yeah, knowledge is that means that he will be more if he and i cannot you so or will here not know about vector your i he, we were as what is your call on my new one? why know our mom was wanting? yes, but i mean, is it difficult for you to admit midland and was involved because the founder of the taliban, molo mom said i don't want to go down in history as someone who betrayed a guest. we have given him a summer, been lud refuge. i cannot throw him out. when the americans, of course, asked for

a samo been logged in to be sent to the americans for questioning burke. he was telling our leadership i nothing was now. obviously, what followed 911 was torture in guantanamo bay by us authorities rendition flights. we have julian, the son journalist, in jail in london here for blowing the whistle on nato war crimes. but you know that to all around the world, there are pictures now of a to report is from at the last rose, never to la, knocked the tech to be beaten by taliban authorities. taller news is what he told me. he was at his camera confiscated what is happening to journalism in afghanistan? is it illegal? no, no problem. there are 940

courses should have permission on the interior side too. and they want to gather him and also the issue. they want her to expression here. sure me about that there that or in the past or, or for the future without paying for that product either be and we're using land, we're going to be actually not or who your call will be. we're trying to in terms of policy while he had the loop or so that drive some ice into members of the mon station, the monster wanted to kind of then show policy. here are

the next hour or more competitor to stop me and maybe a little bit harsh them back to the what are the, what the law on the street. yeah. i mean, i have been stopped as a journalist here in london covering demonstrations ne apartment. and as i told you, julian, his arms tortured according to the un here in london. but you saw the pictures of those 2 journalists that much will enact the intact to be, i mean, they were beaten really badly flogged. that's. that's not on. surely. we will not go longer because generally on, because they want to, well, finally got from the most ancient and not policy and they can back her

back. what's your question back to some more you know, we want to kind of our summer forwarding new mon station. they won't go into polish out there now. so the back back was the main reason. i'll come back and read you off on the back to back. yeah, right. criticize the bottom portion of the army about ok. i mean the women demonstrating say they want, i, susan, they would just demonstrating for normal rights. meanwhile, apparently the taliban is saying the usa is violating the doe agreement

after these new appointees to the government have been made. just does the taliban consider the f, b i a terrorist group, the f b i right now has a $5000000.00 bounty on sir edward in connie is the f b i a terrorist group or she or will we know how we're doing that good sense and the next is your new address. clearly commissioners that remove all our leaders from the prize winners and also from tension. so they have, we have commitment and obligation to remove this matter. they have not heard that there so far they have not. i think it is

now, of course, the biggest challenge will be the economy, that alone, all the human rights concerns that might, might help the economy. what are you going to do about all the money stolen frozen by the united states in the new york banks? and is that related to you? talking to russia, talking to china, interested in built in road. we have inter creek, but we weren't, are there too. well, i will state on our paper. we want are creating jobs, parking spot our or do we want to eradicate or our key awful, our are the people of the district. but they've taken your money. so what are you going to do about getting your money back yet? yeah, that is why i'm say we want to kind of start once i renewed money color expansion,

indications facility. and i've got a concert. we can always, peterson, want this man who we are using this money. we need your money part of the hotline. so i don't know the rationale, that they have approve many why the people of alarms need that money. yours is oppression for me or political? well, i think there is, that is, there are 2 human rights now. you mentioned isis earlier. of course, britain and the united states were connect it arguably to isis in syria when they tried to overthrow outside of syria. will the taliban talk to us about fighting isis? that is been accused of being linked to britain in the united states against the outside government in damascus. will not once

you have discovered that the doctor fighting against us, because now it is going to me they have no justification not to continue fighter honors talk. hi, greg meeker. just finally, i have to ask what you like now talking for the taliban government. i know that boris johnson here in london said britain. western forces should be proud of the legacy in afghanistan. what's it like to be the spokesperson of the new afghan government? i think how one should be proud of all for the region of other countries. every one say that i've got a country. where will we will say we are proud. it is not

correctional. we are proud of what we have done because what we did was part of the liberation up or county, or ending approbation. michigan, that, that he ever. hi. so this has, i rational not there that are in other countries, help people other color really do and destroy hundreds of 1000 of hundreds of pounds and people and we are proud of this. so i think there was i asked him thank you. after the break, we speak to pink floyd front man roger waters about the death of again the and the arguably forgotten $911.00 chillies still tries to recover from 48 years after

september. the 11th all the more coming up and bought to have going underground on drugs started as a way to come back. a great problem. what's the wonder? it's part of the attitude of the nation, not just of north dakota. and it got to be something that you could get elected. this time, the fight against drugs took a check, told us that andrew was competing insurance form. this is way too dangerous for him to be doing. clearly they put him in harm's way. a rural college student does interest get shot in the head and found in a river like that something else had to be happening. the

welcome back as well as the 21911 today marks another arguably forgotten anniversary in the united states. 48 years in the ca, back chilean coup that overthrew salvador a end and replaced it with british back to punish a death squads. joining me now from new york city is a pink floyd front man, roger waters. who's making you film on victor. gillian, singer songwriter, an activist who has tortured and killed during the chicago school economic experiments that spread neoliberalism all around the world. raja thanks so much for coming back. we'll get to victor guerara and the other 911. in a moment. again, i know you're in new york, but you weren't there for the atrocities because you are, you are actually here in britain, but 20 is on. what does it mean to you? 911. and the aftermath was huge. may stuff petune and she really alright. i was actually working in some recording studios. i was always making some demos in london on that fateful day. and i managed to make

a connection with my wife in new york and we had a long phone conversation as we sat watching tv shit. so size and like everybody else, i was completely cups my to and, and shocked and, and, but in my infinite naive it, she, i invented a scenario in my head where the american people would take this is a wakeup call and a fact that they needed to look at themselves and try and figure out what this was about and why it happened. and, and i really, honestly for, for a number of hours, nathan, a number of days believes that that might happen. and of course, it didn't, they went charging down this retribution part of retribution and invaded afghanistan. and so, and started the global war on terror that has to almost destroy the world.

i would say the global war on terror, not the attacks on new york and 911 disastrous as they were. so obviously they were exponentially has the global war on terror empowered extremism on all levels from all factions? not just j hodges, you know, from the middle east and elsewhere. but all of us have been encouraged to spend more and more about energy on destroying each other and the world rather than using our energy to solve the problems that faces so, so it is time for grave reflection. 20 years later i was 587 today. no. yeah. oh, you can go on to it with no. but in terms of those, the enlightening we meant that you sought after the attacks in fantasy the working

class in the united states. and they did a little vaux pubs interviewing people on the streets they were doing. but why would anyone hate the united states? how could anyone hate the united states? and it was the surprising shock on the faces of ordinary americans that perhaps lingers in the mind because so much of the secret state is hidden from everyday life in the united states. while it was explained to them almost immediately afterwards, been large and among others saying, well it, it's your kind of slavish report of the state of israel and its treatment of palestinian paper was one extremely important thing. but the other thing was to slavish support. the states of saudi arabia, which was done in exchange for rights to usual, the oil that was under the does it there, and there was, it was arranged and made as i understand it by f

d. all in his last days with whoever was the king of saudi arabia then king abdul aziz is out. but of course that's what remains today and is increased. yeah, let me say completely israel and saudi arabia. yes. and, and both of those areas of support going entirely against everything that america claims for itself is shining. city on the l i claims to believe in human rights and democracy needs for which things pertain either to israel or to saudi arabia in, in any degree. and so, so, so it, in consequence, it is, it's, it's a standout, it's a stand out example of how things go wrong. when you say, you believe one thing. but when your actions actually demonstrate exactly the

opposite side, the raven israel rejected. they aren't part of this city on the hill american dream, but just explain them to us. why in the global south 911 mean something else. and why may you know peak of it? in our circle, mainstream media in nature, nations, the significance of 911973 in santiago. well last because because that attaches to a much more fundamental issue even than the better like meeting between f d r o b. you said he was because september the 11th 1973 was when pino shay and and some of the military act, the presidential palace in santiago and murdered i in day. who was the juliet that democratic elected president of junior recent history book

say it was suicide, of course. well, of course they do. yeah. but i actually, i've been in the room where he died because i had a meeting with yerra, who's president again now he was president in 2012. when i performed my page, the wall in the national stadium. in sunday i go and she lay and father, good office is to the then you k, a master who's a lovely man called john benjamin. hey john dunaway, brother. i have very strong matrix of our work with a foreign office. we'll pass that. hello. well anyway, so i went, i had a what do you call it? and the audience with el presidente, where he lied through his teeth to me. and i actually went on the radio the next

day and explained he did this thing. i was slightly passing on messages that i've had from student organizations saying why the military eyes militarized police out in the streets, murdering students, protesting against me, a liberal economics in this country. and pineda said to me that i have been searching 100 casualties in the projects around the universities and 1100 of them which the leak. and i saw s may wow. look at that's how they do it. they do it with a smile. and it's obviously nonsense, you know, because they were quite a number of young people killed back in the day in 2012, as they have been recently, they shoot their eyes out now in santiago. and they've been printed, as you know, they've been protest all over south america. grace,

one of the things that encourages people like me to believes that there is just a possibility out there that we may, might be heading for a future. well, we might be able to like, collectively, we invite him, bass will no doubt as london who will deny any human rights abuses. but yeah, you mentioned that chicago sally economics resist. hatcher, of course, friendly with been a shame when he was pending extradition here in britain. within some people won't even realize how their way their economies work, how societies work was based on this little experiment. they did all be at that they kept the copper nationalist and privatize the rest. yeah. one why they didn't private choice to cope and that's always, that's always been a question mark that has stood out. but nevertheless, they used, you know, all the water in chill, a local people, she lay on people,

farmers land, people who worked on the land use to use to grow crops that by 8 and that sustained the nation. not all of it, but a lot of it is now used to grow avocado perez, so that we can sit in front of the super bowl rates in guacamole. and it's, and from why, near liberal economics of the state, because you can make money out of that. it's a short term thing because the water does not last and who's more to reach it anyway. the question of the ownership of water is so fundamental to all conversations that we have. you know, i've been working a little bit more on my standing rock project, is that there's a movie that i'm involved in, called the sacred in the snake. water protects the indigenous peoples this globe who, who are warming themselves into ot protection unix. i think so on behalf of

the rest of us who don't get it. we turn on a chat. and unless we live in flint, michigan, so a fake lea usable water comes out. well, very privatize here. i should add, i just want to quickly get onto victor. victor herrera, of course, because i mean, though i end of course died in the qu. great here all the social democrat, really. and we have pebble and the router talking about water, who was victor herrera. there was a young teacher who, who was also a singer songwriter who became politically motivated during those years leading up to the election of i n days. the president of chile and the institution of a new socialist framework in that country. and to became extremely popular. he wrote a sort of theme song by

n days campaign. it was picked up and became extremely popular on the street. and of course, he, when the crew started to happen, he went to the university to be with his colleagues and whatever. and he was arrested and he was kept there and he was tortured and they, and he was killed on the 16th of september. so 5 day, 5 days after the qu, they murdered victor, harder and so along with many others, he has become a great national, quite right to the a great national hero. recently in the troubles in san diego, i covered one of his most famous songs with, which is rachel de pass. yeah. saying we, everyone has a right and the rachel dave revere on pass to live in

page and great lyric and how he is and how much was still need to hold on to the idea that we, the people actually have a right to live in this endless wall, which is what the war on terror is that came from the other 9. knew that been is not working for any of us except with the possible exception. obviously, of people invested in the military industrial complex for making billions and billions and billions of trillions adult. it's a way of axing ordinary people because the money go the money taken from the taxes of ordinary working people, goes a lot of it goes to the pentagon and then it's david out amongst all the people who invest in defense. they protect them by spreading them out into 52 states or how

many states there are now. so every stage in the union has got a little bit of the war in industry. and in consequence, most of the representatives in congress in the senate now spirit presents chairs come under pressure from their arms industry, not to come military spending or not to cut the budgets and, and in consequence, huge proportion of the tax revenue or the $900.00 states government goes into perpetual war roger waters. thank you. and that's for this $911.00 show will be back on monday. when we go to the arabian embassy and i'm going to meet the new investor motion bar event about afghan. this done what it's like to be selling by british foreign office and bias in natal nation, media, angel, and keep in touch by all that social media and tell us which 911 you think it's more devastating? ah,

the the the reports of injuries in france says rallies against kobe restrictions again turned violent with police responding with tear gas, pepper spray and sun grenades. 15 years, 10 months said $25.00 days on. this is america's legacy. their strong, sabotaged equipment. a country brought to avoid steel and control of the tyler by exactly 20 years after 911 and a war on terror to make the world safer. america instead sled afghan is done in disgrace and defeat.