there are, you don't know what came well, look at the rest, the 7 years. what kind of report? the reports of injuries and frances riley's against coven restrictions turned violent with police deploying tear gas pepper, spray and stun grenade. to disperse crowds of enraged protesters. give 10 months, said $25.00 days on which is america's legacy. destroyed the sabotaged equipment. a country brought to avoid steel and control of the taliban. exactly 20 years after $911.00 and the start of its subsequent war on terror. america has fled,

afghanistan in disgrace and defeat. as our correspond describes the conflict failed to achieve its goals, but left behind a trail of destruction. bearable smell that snow like i mean, i don't. i can only describe it as nettle and flesh. i was angry. excuse me. and remembering the worst terror attack in modern history, the world commemorates the victims of $911.00. i made this 20th anniversary this weekend. we talk with individuals who suffer during the tragedy and its aftermath. you can watch those interviews info on r t dot com. as your world news headlines for this hour, stay tuned for more in just about 3060 minutes. the

ah not mention returns here. we're going underground for $911.00 special coming up in the show on the 20th anniversary of atrocities in new york in washington d. c, which catalyzed mass aerial bombing of afghanistan. we talk to the taliban about victory against the nature occupation. and what about the $911.00, the so called land in the free, arguably forgot. pink floyd frontman, what your ward has tells us why the u. s. a isn't morning on the 48 anniversary of the chilean coup, it's backed, which created penetrates, brutal chicago style saturate. he could only experiment it would be forced on nations all around the world. more coming up in today's going underground,

but 1st it's been 20 years since new york in washington came under attack and major nations most fatal terror atrocity is of course led to 20 years of violent u. s. u. k. occupation of afghanistan. but nature defeat has what the taliban back in control. joining me that from john carter is the taliban spokesperson. so hell, shane sales? thank you so much for coming back on. so it's widely reported that the taliban may have been selected september. the 11th for the new leadership to take the oath of office significance for 911 as the as the day of the o. so just go incident course, but do not have the medicine to take me. i will. we are no none of that time ali was there when i was here and i'm wondering if we when

we are out for our population to, to find out or any kind of goods. so knowledge and our pastor, surely a story, but there are we so far as that is our top 9 in the $100000.00. all of them may work. all those up one, so i don't know how did not know yet new york situated and what anyone was. yeah, we've covered on this program. not one afghan was involved in the hijacking of those aeroplanes 20 years ago. but i did notice your colleague when you had the merger, he'd, he said to n b c, no proof that been logan was involved in 911. is that the taliban view?

i mean, they have knowledge that is up to you why and was and better after them not for i be saying are a wall. so that means they might as far as it is concerned or to ask no, i want it was not i got to have any format. that was not then and it is not right now. yeah, no afghan involved, but we know that been loudon was involved. i worked with al jazeera arabic, a show produced funded by kata are when you're speaking to me from college shake. mama was discovered by the program i was working for working for a summer,

been logged in to make the 911 attacks. in fact, he was, is trial began on tuesday again at guantanamo bay. it is the view, surely that a sum of love was responsible for the $911.00 attacks emperor. he said that i am in wrong. i do not know about that, but yeah, knowledge is that means that he will be more if he and i cannot you so or will here not know about vector your i, he, we were listed as what is your call on my new one while i'm on was, was yes, but i mean, is it difficult for you to admit, been loudon was involved because the founder of the taliban, molo mom said i don't want to go down in history as someone who betrayed

a guest. we have given him a summer, been learned and refuge. i cannot throw him out. when the americans, of course, asked for a samo been love to be sent to the americans. for questioning bert, he was telling our leadership i nothing was now. obviously, what followed 911 was torture in guantanamo bay by us authorities rendition flights. we have julian, a son journalist, in jail, in london here for blowing the whistle on nato war crimes. but you know that to all around the world, there are pictures now of a to report is from at last was never to knock the techie. there ya be beaten by taliban authorities. taller news is why he'd monday was that his camera confiscated what is happening to journalism in afghanistan. is it illegal?

no, no problem with the new reporting of course or should have permission from the interior and they want to gather him and also the issue they want her to express here. come about not their that are in the past for or for the future without paying for that product either be and we were using land, we're going to be actually green, who to be. we're trying to turn the policy while he had the loop or so that some ice interior members of

the mon station, the monster wanted to kind of then show my policy here are honors and that is why you our, our work compared to stop me and maybe a little bit harsh them back to because they want to be what to expect on the street. yeah, i mean i, i have been stopped as a journalist here in london covering demonstrations near parliament. and as i told you, julian, his arms tortured according to the un here in london. but you saw the pictures of those 2 journalists. and now much will enact the intact e. b. i mean, they were beaten really badly flogged. that's. that's not all. i'm surely. we will not care plan because i generally are because they want to, well,

finally got from the most ancient, not, not policy. and they can back her back back to some more. you know, we want to go out some forwarding new mon station they want or polish out there somewhere. so the back back was the main reason i'll come back and read you off on the back to my back. yeah. right. criticized by the shoulder about okay. i mean, the women who had demonstrating say they weren't, i says, and they would just demonstrating for normal rights. meanwhile,

apparently the taliban is saying the usa is violating the doe agreement after these new appointees to the government have been made. does. does the taliban consider the f, b i a terrorist group, the f b i right now has a $5000000.00 bounty on reggie and connie is the f, b i a terrorist group or she or will we know how we're doing that and the next is on the do i renewed like expired object, cleary, commissioners that remove all our leaders from the prize winners and also from tension. i'm sure they have, we have commissioners and obligation to go to remove this and they

have not heard that there so far they have not. i think it is a why issue. now, of course, the biggest challenge will be the economy, that alone all the human rights concerns that might, might help the economy. what are you going to do about all the money stolen frozen by the united states in the new york banks? and is that related to you talking to russia, talking to china, interested in built in road? we have inter cruise, but we weren't, are there too? well, i will state for our paper. we want to create a job opportunities for our or do we want to eradicate their power key? often our people on the internet,

but they've taken your money. so what are you going to do about getting your money back? yeah, yeah, that is why i'm say we want to kind of sort of run on renewed money for expansion facilities. and i've got a concert. you can always peters and you want men who we are doing this many need your money. part of the people have one son, so i don't know that i should know that they have approve this many why the people of alarms on need that money. yours is abrasion. part of your political models. i think that i saw i mention that one right now. you mentioned isis earlier. of course, britain and the united states were connected, arguably to isis in syria when they tried to overthrow outside of syria. will the taliban talk to us about fighting isis?

that is been accused of being linked to britain in the united states against the outside government in damascus. we are not one. you have the ability to fight it stopped or fighting against that because now it is. and it's not going to me. they have no justification to continue fighter honor and talk, i give me just finally i have to ask what you'd like now talking for the taliban government. i know that boris johnson here in london, said britain. western forces should be proud of the legacy in afghanistan. what's it like to be the spokesperson of the new afghan government? i think how one should be proud of all for the region of other countries.

so everyone say and then re that other country will we will say we are proud. it is not. i think the rational we are proud or we have done because we're what we did. it was part of the liberation up or 30 or ending approbation. michigan. that, that he under high. so this has a rational them are not there that are under other countries help people other color really do and destroy hundreds of 1000 k, hundreds of pounds on our people and we are all right proud of this. so i think there was cases i asked him thank you. after the break, we speak to pink floyd front man. well,

the waters about the death of i in the and the arguably forgotten 911 chillies still tries to recover from 48 years after september. the 11th, also more coming up and bought to have going underground. the september, the 11th 2001 day that reshape to the modern world. i remember watching the world trade center burn on a tv at the cia and i was standing there like this just looking at it. and a colleague of mine was standing next to me and he said, my god, did they have any idea what they've done? we're going to kill everybody now. everybody, the,

the live tv images promote the us into declaring its war on terror. they've begun to bomb up, can villages on holders and get people hurt and, and killed the main goal of destroying terrorism and then was it achieved? yes, and no. ok to essentially no longer exists. good for us, but there are certainly other terrorist groups that are worse than on the welcome back as well as the 200-1911. today marks another arguably forgotten anniversary in the united states. 48 years in a back chilean coup that overthrew salvatore and then replaced it with british back to finish a death squads. joining me now from new york city is

a pink floyd front man roger waters. who's making you film on victor. gillian, singer songwriter, anatomist who was tortured and killed during the chicago school economic experiments that spread neoliberalism all around the world. raja thanks so much for coming back. we'll get to victor guerara and the other 911. in a moment. again, i know you're in new york, but you weren't there for the atrocities because you were you actually here in britain, but 20 is on. what does it mean to you? 911. and the aftermath was huge. may stuff. cartoon that she really, i was actually working in in some recording studios i was of, was making some demos in london on that fateful day. and i managed to make a connection with my then wife in new york, and we had a long phone conversation as we sat watching tv sets on size land and like everybody else, i was completely cups my and shocked and, and,

but in my infinite naive, it she, i invented a scenario in my head where the american people would take this is a wakeup call and a fact that they needed to look at themselves and try and figure out what this was about and why it happened. and, and i really honestly for, for a number of hours, nathan, a number of days believes that that might happen. and of course it didn't, they went charging down this retribution part of retribution and invaded afghanistan. and so, and started the global war on terror, that has to almost destroy the world. i would say the global war on terror. not the attacks on new york and 911 disastrous as they were. so obviously they were exponentially, has the global war on terror empowered extremism on all levels?

from all factions, not just jihad is you know, from the middle east and elsewhere. but all of us have been encouraged to spend more and more about energy on destroying each other. and the world rather than using our energy to so evident problems the faces or so it is time for grave reflection. 20 years later i was 587 today though. yeah. oh, you can go on to it with no. but in terms of those, the enlightening enlightenment that you sought after the attacks in fantasy, the working class in the united states. and they did a little vaux pubs interviewing people on the streets they were doing. but why would anyone hate the united states? how could anyone hate the united states? and it was the surprising shock on the faces of ordinary americans that perhaps

lingers in the mind because so much of the secret state is hidden from everyday life in the united states. while it was explained to them almost immediately afterwards, been large and among others saying, well it, it's your kind of slavish report of the state of israel and its treatment of palestinian people was one extremely important thing. but the other thing was to slavish support to the states of saudi arabia, which was done in exchange for rights to usual, the oil that was under the does it there. and there was, it was no arrangement made as i understand it by f d. all in his last days with whoever was the king of saudi arabia, then king abdul aziz ivan sowed. but of course that remains today and is increased . yeah, let me say completely israel and saudi arabia. yes. and both of those areas of

support going entirely against everything that america claims for itself is shining. city on the l i claims to believe in human rights and democracy needs for which things pertain either to israel or to saudi arabia in, in any degree. and so, so, so in consequence it is, it's, it's a standout, it's a stand out example of how things go wrong. when you say, you believe one thing. but when your actions actually demonstrate to exactly the opposite side, the raven israel reject the day on the part of this city on the hill, the american dream. but just explain them to us. why in the global south 911 mean something else. and why may you know peak of it in our circle, mainstream media in nature, nations,

the significance of 911973 in santiago. well last because because that attaches to a much more fundamental issue even than the better, like meeting between f d r o b. you said he was because september the 11th 1973 was when pino sherry and, and, and some of the military act, the presidential palace in santiago and murdered, i in day. who was the juliet that democratic elected president of junior recent history book say it was suicide, of course. well, of course they do. yeah. but i actually, i've been in the room why he died because i had a meeting with yerra, who's president again now he was president in 2012. when i perform my page,

the wall in the national stadium. in sunday i'll go and she lay, and father, good office is to the then you k, a master who's a lovely man called john benjamin. hey john, i've been away, brother, but i have very strong matrix of our work with a foreign office. we'll bus that. hello. well anyway, so i went, i had a what do you call it, an audience, which el presidente say where he lied through his teeth to me. and i actually went on the radio the next day and explained he did this thing. i was slightly passing on messages that i've had from student organizations saying why the military eyes militarized police out in the streets. murdering students, protesting against me,

a liberal economics in this country. and pineda said to me that i have been searching and 100 casualties in the protests around the universities and 1100 of them which the leak. and i saw s may wow. look at that's how they do. they do it with a smile, and it's obviously nonsense. you know, because they were quite a number of young people killed back in the day in 2012, as they have been recently, they shoot their eyes out now in santiago. and they've been printed, as you know, they've been protest all over south america. that's one of the things that encourages people like may to believes that there is just a possibility out there that we may, might be heading for a future. well, we might be able to act collectively. we invite his ambassador will no doubt that london will deny any human rights abuses. but yeah,

you mentioned that chicago sally economics resist. hatcher, of course, friendly with the machine when he was pending extradition here in britain. within some people won't even realize how their way their economies work, how societies work was based on this little experiment. they did all be at that they kept the copper nationalist and privatize the rest. yeah. one why they didn't private choice to cope, and that's always, that's always been a question. not that has stood out, but nevertheless they used, you know, all the water in chill, a local people, she lay on people, farmers land. people who worked on the land use to use to grow crops that by 8 and that sustained the nation. not all of it, but a lot of it is now used to grow avocado perez, so that we can sit in front of the super bowl leads and walk a mile away. and it,

and from why, near liberal economics of the say, because you can make money out of there is short term thing because the water does not last and who's more to reach it anyway. the question of the ownership of water is so fundamental to all conversations that we have. you know, i've been working a little bit more on my standing rock project, is that there's a movie that i'm involved in, called the sacred in the snake. water protects the indigenous peoples at this globe who, who are warming themselves into port protection units. i think so on behalf of the rest of us who don't get it. we turn on a chat. and unless we live in flint, michigan, so faintly usable water comes out of that. well, very privatize here. i should add by just wanted to quickly get on to victor. victor herrera,

of course. because i mean though i end of course died in the qu. great here all the social democrat, really. and we have pebble and the router talking about water, who was victor herrera. they tell her was a young teacher who, who was also a singer and songwriter who became politically motivated during those years leading up to the election of i n days, the president of chile and the institution of a new socialist framework in that country. and to became extremely popular, he wrote of the sort of theme song by n days campaign. it was picked up and became extremely popular on the street. and of course, he, when the crew started to happen, he went to the university to be with his career and whatever. and he was arrested

and he was kept there and he was tortured and they, and he was killed on the 16th of september. so 5 day, 5 days after the qu, they murdered victor, harder and so along with many others, he has become a great national, quite right to the a great national hero. recently in the troubles in santiago, i covered one of his most famous songs with which should day pass. yeah. saying we, everyone has a right and the right show dave revere on pass to live in page and great lyric and how he is and how much was still need to hold on to the idea the we, the people actually have a right to live in this endless wall, which is what the war on terror ridge that came from the other 911

is not working for any of us except with the possible exception. obviously, of people invested in the military industrial complex for making billions and billions and billions of trillions adult. it's a way of axing ordinary people because the money go the money taken from the taxes of ordinary working people, goes a lot of it goes to the pentagon and then it's david out amongst all the people who invest in defense. they protect them by spreading them out into 52 states or how many states there are now. so every stage in the union has got a little bit of the war industry. and in consequence, most of their representatives in congress in the senate now spirit presents chairs .