she couldn't smile today all the proper way with the chests and with social care interested. well, be poor, the american rebel. and that's the weekly on rti international join us for again, for more in just about 30 minutes. me the join me every thursday on the alex salmon show. when i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. me . my name is jason. whenever you can plug it in or you think you remember me. we had been searching the river. it was pretty obvious. he had muddy food, use arrogant. he was sitting there like this with his muddy booth and you know,

flicking mud all over the floor. and he just like he was king of the world wanting thought he was aggressive even at that time as far as as how he was we handled himself kind of, he got that feeling that he was searching for a criminal and that's when he told me that my son was a drug dealer you you're here for next semester and she kind of told us that he wasn't just using marijuana that he was actually selling it on campus. and he had a felony against him and they haven't charged him with it yet. but he was pending to all these deliveries. they took place on campus both on

their house, so they're passing on. and then he told us that andrew was a competent, short form. it asked for you to do is to do some buyers for me that were you that to where wire you have to go buy marijuana. i didn't even know what that was and i had no idea what he was. even talking about what that meant. me each individual we do, we have to do to deal. okay. so you are thinking, well this is susan the andrew how can he, how can this talking about the same guy? i mean, just the, who, the agent, whoever told us that they believed, or he believed that he, andrew was on the run because he had to make these buys by may 1st and you'd only

done half of them. you don't check with me if i lose contact with you. i'm just gonna assume that you don't want to work anymore and that was for your us and then in jail. so i was just blown away. i mean, here my son is missing and, and now they tell me he's a drug dealer, or i got them in make sense to me. but none of that made sense. nothing made sense. i mean, tammy, just didn't know what to do. i mean, as far as what even to believe really and and where to turn in. and then sergeant helgren's son wanted us to do a press conference. we love you and we want you. we need to come home. everything will be okay. we pleaded for andrew on that news. conferenced

come in like they wanted us to have him turn himself in. we love you and we want you home with us. everything will be okay. mm. i frankly not recall the right arm or anything. cuz you know, we up and left and i was kind of in freefall, it just seemed like it was snowballing rapidly. ah, everything seemed to be fine. i mean, there were no red flags. nothing. that's what's making this so difficult for us as law enforcement it's i mean the read the news

in the school. they had a vigil, some other students put together, and they asked me to talk eric and i said some words for a little speech and begun farm to come home. like if you are in trouble or just come home, want to help your friends. most of the electrical programs era, as far as the faculty and students, you know, people are pretty generous and they're going to give up their time and they're gonna, they're gonna form these search parties and they're going to go, you know, scour wherever law enforcement has identified as, as potential places to walk me to campus leesha, obviously i'm gonna go back to class that basically turn to say where you don't want anymore. students going missing? i was like, what makes no sense?

is there a black hole, pine tree somewhere that you didn't tell anybody about and people are falling into it? mm. we went just to places that we had gone. where is when we guy go cruising or something? so can we drive down all the roads? we go and spend our heads together and try our hardest to find something, get some sort of clues of what happened or where he was or, and what was going on in columbus and, and started to seem like there was something else going on. and we learned that the college police department was the ones investigating this situation by campus. police are supposed to make sure that you behave, make sure you're following the rules of the campus. if you snuck bearing the room, look out for the campus, police, that's their job. and the campus police should have turned the situation over to

another agency immediately. they just don't have the experience and training necessary to deal with the situation. i. andrew sat at n d s. the student that disappeared on may 1st last seen leaving is dharm at the campus of the article to state college sciences parents are john and tammy tammy. good to have you. i news in the morning give me an evaluation of where this search for andrew is that basically don kohls off with the as far as the campus police are concerned. and we're, we're not going to stop working for a living else. and it's a living hell. and so why is the funds that are other so it's, it's really a bad time

a year and now he's gone to how do you feel that the state college of science has been in dealing with this situation? to me, it seems like they're not doing anything. andrea case just made me feel frustrated, but once you start hearing the other stations are having just as much difficulty getting basic answers, you realize there's something more going on. people were just trying to come up with theories and i think that's natural when you don't have a lot of answers, you want to find something me i would say probably after the 2nd week, i started having some notes about how tall it is and on be in take care of their investigative skills are pretty limited as science when i could see, you know, we thought that they were probably doing his best. they could,

i don't know. i guess they didn't seem to frantic about trying to find him, i guess. but i asked him if they had checked with any of the other surveillance stuff in town, you know, as far as see any and andrew or seeing a movement at his car moved, you know, i said, what did you check with the train and the and tax season and any of that stuff, if it's andrew gotten any of that and checked in fargo, if any, anybody seen him there or anything like that? oh no, that's a good idea. i think it was just i don't know what they were doing. i mean the other than waiting for a phone call, i guess i don't understand what you're doing. this went on for i say, weeks and not the trash news today. folks in the andrew sad case,

the young man we've all been searching for since he went missing on may 1st. and now warrant has been issued for andrew's arrest. static is wanted on drug charges details, and these charges are still emerging. but andrew was allegedly caught selling marijuana on 2 occasions on april, 4th, and april 9th, 2013. 1 sale was for 20 bucks. the other was for $60.00. the was like, are you kidding me? all of this for $80.00 worth of pot. my son is missing for $80.00 for it's a part i was wild wild show me a campus where you cannot find $80.00 worth of time. me. i remember waking up the news that he had been charged. i'll say, what is this?

i was this even a thing they can do this is completely or try your friend home. and now you're going to throw some kind of bogus charge. yeah. like i had not put it together at all. how does warm does happen now that have gone missing? what crime did you commit? where did they see him? what? like, how to, why is that happening now? so i knew it was everything was just confusing. a little mess for awhile there. like that whole month was the most confusing thing ever happened. me ended up filing the warrants, i think on monday and they thought the other police have to get involved you know, just kind of everybody's looking for them. then i think that was the reasoning for filing the charges. so that kind of shut down the public's willingness to help. nobody wants to look for a drug dealer. my own mother to this day,

believe that andrew was a drug dealer. anybody that knew him knew there was more to the story. i assume that, you know, he just took off and this is just more than he could handle. but at the same time i, i had this idea that yeah, but where's, where's it going? where, where is he going to go on me? you're going to be original often that we see that if you don't check me contact with you, i'm just gonna assume that you don't want to work anymore in that. i'm just going to the lawrence ah me. i was having a panic here,

sitting in the pedicure chair with my feet in the water and surging helga some called. he said, what are you doing? and i said, i'm having a petty carrying those are you alone? and i'm like, no, the girls here, you know what goes whereas john and i said he's on a fishing trip. get him home. me. i was actually fishing with my buddies, just can't get a weekend away. ah, tammy had called me that they had found a body in the river and i knew it was handed. ah, i just got to the house. and of course we're waiting. the sheriff showed up with tammy's pastor and told us that it was andrew ah,

the civic leg around the world, ex i 1000 ocean miles round the clock of the dead calm as every country close by the crew. gavin's food and water harbor to go to chat, nurse for shelter. look um, let me know. i got everybody locked down or no more. no food and no water. but really, i'm not sure somebody stuck in the coven,

your living like the theme of own. but in the 21st century, the the in the ah, no, it's like whereas he, you know, it's all different. so when he finally, when they finally found the body and i knew that he was dead. and i remember just like i couldn't keep my eyes drive because this is just like 3 ality. now, you know me is tough to i

mean deep down, you kind of knew it has been a long time. you just didn't want to accepted. and phillips lack in the phase, ah, ah, ah, in the surgeon how hinson called us. i grad john. every time he spoke, it was something new and bizarre. he said

andrew was shot in the head and had a backpack. iraq's tied to them. that's what he told us over the phone. he believed there was a suicide. he was just waiting on the corner. and once he found the gun, he would be confirmed that it was a suicide. me. so the 1st day i met tammy, she decided i talked to the native so i walked in, i didn't know what to expect. you know what i mean, we had heard about what was happening, but i didn't know i was just walking into this. and tammy said my son was killed and i had to call my producers like, hey, this is actually your story today. i know you just wanted me to get a sound here, but this is your story. she says her son was killed me. andrew sonics, mom tammy sat. i spoke at a local radio station today saying she believe her son was murdered. we discovered

that when andrew was found on june 27th, he wasn't wearing the same clothes. he went missing and cameras. in his dorm caught this footage, he was last seen wearing this sweat shirt, but one, his body was found he was wearing a different jacket. ah, he was shot in the head. his backpack was weighted down and he was thrown in the river. the backpack or rocks, was kind of the kicker for me. and like if you're going kill yourself, he can do that anywhere. why would you need to make your body disappear? who andrew was shot with a 22 andro went into the red river and he came up on the minnesota side of the red

. ringback between him leaving that dorm and when he was shot, there was a change of clothes. there were rocks in the backpack for me personally. andrew was murdered, makes more sense than what the cops could come up with. and all they could come up with is a suicide. like wow, that's it guys? yeah. roxanne is backpack tied to his body? that doesn't sound like a suicide. that sounds like murder one on one in this melting story, and tammy static is fighting back tears as she talks about not having answers in her son's death or just really hasn't been any effort to keep this family updated. the static family is bringing their own attorneys to the fight and now they want the f b i to investigate. i think people knew it was a major story right away. when that happened, people knew something was going on. that just doesn't happen. a rural college student does interest get shot in the head and found in

a river like that. something else had to be happening. they're not going to do their job to let the f b i get involved. somebody that can look at this case fresh without this suicide in the back of their mind planted by the campus police and everything. i want them to look at the whole case objectively. when i met tammy that day and had a personal conversation with tammy, i thought ok, we have the power of journalism. we have the power of finding public records. we have the power of being able to hold those who are paid by tax dollars accountable . ah. ringback we talked about what it is actually you have a lot of questions and can't seem to figure out where to get the answers. do you know where she should be looking? no, i really don't know where, where she should be looking on on that. i think a lot of people have

a lot of questions the understand the investigative process. you just really have to look at the timeline of the events that took place when andrew was reported missing on i believe those may 2nd the campus police at the dfcs were the lead investigators, by june, shortly before andras body was found. there were, i would say 3 or 4 different law enforcement agencies that were involved, but was really still to this point, hard to tell who was actually in charge, who was actually doing anything ah, the investigation was turned over to the b. c a in minnesota. but n dfcs was originally investigating the north dakota agee's office and b, c, i in their report said it was a minnesota b. c, a case to be ca said that's not true. they have nothing to do with it. i was furious. i was saying the way everything was be presented from start to finish. the

way the police were handling it from pretty much de one and her static death investigation is being handled by campus police. the minnesota police are not working with the campus. police cops aren't sharing information. i was absolutely delay way, very late way of putting in the f. b. i's response was essentially that they weren't asked by local law enforcement to be involved unless they were asked by law enforcement to get involved. there was no reason for them to get involved at that point. all due respect to the campus, police, you know, they've got a job to do and it is not investigating a potential murder. i remember asking this school official. do you feel like you're

in over your head? and i don't really remember his response, so that time i don't know if he had a response or not, but that was one of the last times we ever got to talk to a school official about the case. no one wanted responsibility. and so if you didn't want responsibility in the front end by doing anything on the backend, you were taking responsibility. and so there it was much easier to use the narrative of. he took his own life because then he was responsible me the police came here. oh, i can't remember how long after his body was found. it was a lie a low and basically told us the progress or lack of progress that they were at what stage the investigation was. we didn't know all the particulars. they didn't tell us all the evidence of what was

going on, but they weren't telling us everything. i . we were at that time just trying to find anything, any document or any video they had. tammy had told us that they had a cell phone, tammy, adult, they had a laptop, things like that, so we were asking, okay, did you find information on his laptop? could we get a copy of that or do you have video documentation of him being interviewed today? why didn't know what i was expecting, but when i 1st pressed play, almost felt wrong, watching him. jason webber. yeah . it was just like you could enact me over with

a feather related november 22nd thing is 20th birthday. it starts off with smart alec comment that you don't want to spend your birthday here. well, you expressed interest? oh, okay. like i said, you're facing to melanie's and then course miss miller church from yesterday. it's a 25 minute video. it took me probably a week to get through it. that's probably not a way to start off your young adult placement. right. so the police came in and destroyed is why for why this is a college student. so i mean that got me and it inspired me to really look at the case, but look at the case,

i'm not looking to hang the lease or any, but i'm looking at the facts. when i saw the fact, i was scandalized i was, i had never seen anything as bad as you know, good ways attacked me in the morning or the night before we use on for tomorrow while i'm off tomorrow and then you can buy some of that and so forth, my analysis of it was really simple, line them up, next, find criminals and give evidence, line them up, let him of a rest and conversion to inform. it's because we have or agents that i work with. we are not like you only see how we work with other people and we work a big area with who's there for one mission to get another informant and another arrest number. and he did it. the thing is the investigator

conductor. justification. what did you, for instance, when you interrogated him, find out what his source was? could it be that you didn't do it? because if you questions too much, you'd find out that it was one of the other informants who gave it to you. and if that's the case, you understand, you committed a felony, you the police office. if that's the case, just like in your situation, you have no clue who probably around you. you know who in this out. ok. you probably maybe try to think of ideas and stuff, but i'm not going to tell you if you have informa giving don't to subject subject gives just to inform it to was the investigation. you the guy in charge of informers, you created the crime and that's it. the perfect frame, oh,

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