different so what do you think of what the taliban seemed to be doing? thought upon by manifesto i think they have some principles in there manifesto. i think being a government is quite different from being a group, an autumn group. therefore, if one wants to be to stay in garment, if they create a government in the future in african nathan, they have to look into their body for so it's not just to do something for, for showing. i mean an inclusive government, right? so minorities, ethnic minorities and religious minorities or not. so the right to women is high on the edge of the international community. you sound like foreign secretary rab here in london or entity in washington with that answer. of course, what might think the united states and britain can talk to the taliban because they helped fund the magenta when that became the taliban. that became al guide of the

became isis the became all these things. iran has always been opposed to this kind of islam, islam, and this kind of fundamentalists. how does iran negotiate with taliban leaders and politicians? what the have we have been discussing with the color on, even before the domination of i've kind of we have had our concern because we are the immediate neighbor of i've kind of fun with around 1000 kilometers on the line . what do we have talked to them before it's the same that we aren't, i'm not know, expressing the have some principles, the rice that they just talked about. we have pointed out that to the, to the tolerable leaders. secondly, the issue of terrorism and extremism in africa fund is a concern for us is

a security cancer. and also the drug trafficking is a problem. traffic in person because many people they come from are kind of fun to run by the trafficker. you know, we are, for the time being house thing, more than 3000000 africans in iran, and you have a lot of problem with they now, with the pandemic, with the vaccination, with education, everything that the human being the now the education of the african refugees in iran is free and then they can go to a school, they can be educated, we are trying to give them what we can, but you are receiving very less help and assistance from the international who you are being sanctioned by the british sanctions. yeah, i mean, what did you think when you're here? birth johnson and others say we're talking to regional partners,

a lot of the nato countries we're going to be talking to regional presumably neighboring countries of afghanistan and iran being one of them. and iran is sanctioned by the european union britain than the united states. are they really talking to you since the fall of global? i think that's the contradiction that the people have read themselves. i think the sanction is an exception, but the humanitarian a, it's a to the refugees addressing the dangerous situation in the world and something else. some of the countries they are to me, the policy is that they talk to taliban directly. maybe they help them, but internationally they raise the issue, but really they are not observing it well, they have their frozen the taliban money. of course, in, in new org. whereas johnson said that western forces can be proud of the legacy

they left behind. since the invasion after $911.00, do you think that western forces can be proud of the legacy of nato intervention in afghanistan, the nato legacy, you know, kind of than, it's not something to hide it or to justify it. i mean, we are seeing what is the nato legacy that in a way, in particular, in particular, that is a chaos that there is a feller there. there is no government now the people are just living on their own . there is no resource for the people. they go into cation, but there is the how connie network. what did you make of these initial appointments of members of the god, the network and the way that seemingly in london and washington, they said, you know that it's not good, but you know, that's the way it is. i mean the,

if the government wants to take shape, they have to be more inclusive with the government because i've gone on the socialist structure is tribal, nick and it's a diverse society and no single group with a single ideology can rule that i've got them in future, the other, they are not going to have a they go any government that it's not inclusive. now, china got the taliban to say, look, we won't help terrorists that seek and independent gym. jan. russia has presumably got some guarantees about terrorism in russia. any guarantees that the taliban is giving iran about people from the sheer communities in afghanistan, their safety because there hasn't been much signs of even has our boy and

his in the taliban. the new administration structures, our pollution is not just for one or 2 groups. what we have generally repeatedly telling one is that the they should not make a safe haven for terrorism. you know, kind of them, i mean, we don't have a good or bad terrorism. terrorism is terrorism. therefore, it's true that the religion of many people, you know, kind of funny the same as they don't. but as far as terrorism is concerned, we are against terrorism. and we don't think that we should talk about one single group with all of on and others about how far can we just the united states in this withdrawal? because while the evacuation was going on, there was

a massive troop movement from northern iraq into syria. we know britain's role, maybe you can expand on what you think britain's role has been in syria as regards terrorism and syria is, is britain supporting continuing to support or at least, is it even linked to isis dash and syria on britain role? really, i don't have that information that they can give you, but with the united states, we cannot trust the united states movement plan. and the experience shows that the diplomacy of the united states is not innovative at all. they just want to resolve all the problems with, with force or question. and they also see the, the, the war, the real war, the like hollywood movie and they just take arm to resolve the problem. but the

result is that they just make a mess where they go. but you don't think with the 20 year anniversary of $911.00, the americans would realize that they can't use fundamentalist islam. islam keep funding these sorts of groups against their perceived enemies. yeah, because they wouldn't, they have to think a little bit. it's not just if you have power, you can resolve all of the problems with, even in a small family, you cannot do it. set aside the international community. i mean, how you can resolve everything in the 4th and question that's not possible. the united states army is good for a classic or maybe, but if the groups are there, i mean many people, lot of that in the mountains, everywhere in the world. and how can you revolve with the army?

i mean, you didn't want him talk about britain's role in the syria. but i mean, it's, we know the britain arms, israel, which has been bombing gaza in the past few days. and it's been bombing, damascus, in the past few days. and we know britain's role in the sanctions against iran. what does it feel like when you were told to come to see the foreign secretary dominant, grab accusing you of wondering terrorism accusing. i mean, it's not, it's easy, but to, to prove is, is difficult. what? no, i don't want to be bragging about something, but we have had the, maybe the strongest campaign against terrorism. our general, for the money was assassinated by the united states,

was the hero of the nation nation in the region for combating terrorism. and we have given a lot of a lot of brought to combat terrors, even 7th in taos, and the people in here are the victim of terrorism. that the organization that did that they have no, the safe haven in europe like m u k. they sometimes we hear, they're lessening this aboard for that terror group, although it was taken off the dairy list, the madrid master, i'll stop you there more from the ringing investors of the u. k. as well as the u. n. refugee agency. after this, bring me the civic leg around the world. expedition 5000 miles round the clock in the dead. calm miss dennis in

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conversation around transparency. see what that battle has done to him. i feel like julian's life might be coming to an end. we are in a conflict situation with the largest and most powerful employer in such a situation. it's remarkable to survive the welcome back. i'm still here with a runs ambassador london on got some really money. his daughter gave us a world exclusive interview for this various program. and iran and his daughter said there will be some kind of response what, what is the response to the assassination of a general who fought with american troops against terrorism in syria and iraq? i think the response is come back again, terrorism and supporters that that's the best response. i know.

leadership has make this clear that the united states should be expand from reason because when they, wherever they go, they just make a cast. and did you make these points to the foreign secretary? when he said that you would iran had been involved in the killing of the british citizen in the persian gulf of your money coast? i have not met the foreign secretary yet. oh, i thought he summoned, you know, i just went to the ministry. i didn't say he himself didn't know. i didn't speak to you. i mean, are you surprised about british foreign policy as regards these issues we're talking about, or do you and the iranian government believe they basically do what the united states sells them to do? i think in this case, as the leadership is on the united states and the other countries follow that. now

there's been repeated terror attacks in iran, of course, over many years, don't just cut themselves on their business as a nation to scientists. what is the role of n g o's, british n jose? what is their role be in, in fostering interest against uranium government? i know that bbc meteor action has been accused of fostering instability in iran. do you see these outside actors today into iran? for the instability i don't see that they are important movements in fact, and we are very self confident. now, of course, there are sanctions against syria increasing anger against lebanon in nato nations . what does iran's position on trying to get fuel into syria during the winter

as the winter approaches, let alone what is happening in lebanon? yeah, that's the, that's the 1st level of business. and secondly, iran as a powerful country in the middle east region. we cannot wait if there is a request from the, from lebanese government, we'll give them the feel and we cannot wait and see a nation suffering because of the political interest of the power would have the british hijacking iranian vessel. oh, that's from the past. no, that i don't know at all. who would do you make as an ambassador here in kensington in london. when you watch the tv news and see that there's no reporting of the strikes on syria as strikes. israeli asked no reporting of gaza arguably. and the strikes on garza and the media here is on that

issue is really biased. because israel as become the spoiled child of the international community whenever they decide they, they attack on, on other countries, they invade the countries. and also they commit terrorist acts and proudly they just announced that they assassinated the nuclear scientists in the wrong and they even, they prime ministers confess, that they have done it and they have a stolen for example, the documents. and that's something that if other country makes such such an act, so i'm in the whole media in the word may explode to, to raise. but this is a very fat file. and in the media about these acts in the region,

they say they are attacked too. much in the media here, just finally on, back to afghan is done. it was notable that the uranium foreign ministry spokesman said because he said, condemned the taliban over the actions in the pan chair valley. is it difficult for iran to cope with the taliban because of the history of many in the taliban and their connections to the ca, to m? i 6. and to obviously the i s i which had close it back in them which had close connections to the ca and punch that was against the problem is the ton of on made that they the problem is that they resolve the the difference with the other group by negotiation, but what the ministry spokesman was conditioning is that they just resort to the

violence to resolve the problem. they are, the man also was on an inclusive government tolerant, tries to, to suppress them that by, by 4th and by our 4th, that's not acceptable. okay. but given what you been saying about the sponsorship of terrorism against iran, how does iran, and i know it has a new government now even negotiate over the j. c, p u, a nuclear treaty with people who, you know, are arming, attacks on iran. i mean, now iran is closer to china, closer to russia, close to his whaler. all these other the international community. why does it continue even negotiating with a g p. o, a with job buttons administration for us live ocean is, is the, the main approach that we have 2 or international differences that we have the,

the other country. therefore, if we can resolve something through negotiations visible to and then i'm going to do anything about the increased enrichment that is being reported on j. c. p i v have had some some issues that they think we have to resolve it. the other part is of the j. c p. a. one is that we need to go and t that if again, somebody like president from is not the not station they are not withdrawing and destroying what the rec ocean if you need them. therefore, they need the kind of guarantee for that. secondly, we don't negotiate the regional or the other issues connected to the j, c, p a or nuclear talks. and also, and we have to see the real action of the other part is j. c,

a. in regard to the lifting of sanctions, we cannot just be a party of a, of an agreement and accept the commitment but be deprived from the benefits of that agreement. therefore, there should be a balance between commitments and rights as one. what you're demanding. they are not, that's all a strange or something which is in, out of the blue is something that is very, very logical and rational. because like it or not, you are facing the question that there are thing that again we are you are go shaping that in from us like o'shea to the j. c. p a. the other parties. but in future, if even trump or to somebody like come comes to office and they want to again, this way, the negotiation, what, what would you do? what guarantee you that trust that you have had before in

diplomacy with the united states in the ward community is gone. it has say that the way therefore, the americans revealed again that trust in the diplomacy. if they promise to the something they have to abide by the massive, thank you. thank you. a was for having. well, earlier i spoke to matthew salt marsh spokesperson for the you and refugee agency to discuss the situation on the ground. and what will britain can be doing to help refugees up to 20 years of occupation and destruction of afghanistan? matthew was the scale of the catastrophe, as you were hearing about it on the ground and walk in. you and western european nations do more to help what's happened. well, good afternoon, vera, you know, to, to main crises at play here. the, the most pressing one is the situation inside afghanistan. and we know that

several 100000 delays adjustment is actually 600000 people have been displaced within the country so far this year. and that means that the total number of people displaced is around 3 and a half 1000000 inside afghanistan. the situation is very fluid. there are people of course, who are also returning home, but so far the majority have not done. and you know, we are working and delivering age within the country across the country, in all the provinces. and we hope that we can continue to do so with our partners in the us and our n g o partners. the 2nd part of that is, of course, the neighboring countries. and as you just heard, there are millions, 2 and a half 1000000 approximately refugees, primarily hosted by pakistan and iran. those countries have for a long time, been hosts to afghanistan. as you know, the country has been in a situation of war insecurity and conflict for,

for decades or so. and those countries have been generous hosts. they have large populations. now, in the event that more africans are compelled to try and find protection in those countries. so it's across the board, as of course we would call on those countries to keep them is open and to allow for the protection of more african refugees if needed. of course, there is contingency planning going on right now from ourselves with those countries and with other partners. so far the movements have been relatively limited towards the border that has been an increase in movement. more people have been moving, but so far it's not on a mass scale, but of course we need to plan for that possibility if, if it comes to pass. well that means you and hcr talking to the taliban regional players because really you can just pay off other countries to take refugees like

it has previously. because we called on the e u, the u. s. western country to support the effort. there are various appeals out there right now which are fairly poorly funded. our own appeal for afghanistan is only about 43 percent funded for this year. so the needs a huge by getting at the fact they can just pay off of the country and they can take the refugees. that seems to be the urban policy historically, surely. well, the europeans cause going through their own process with, with the migration packed at the moment. some countries have announced resettlement programs. these are, of course, hugely welcome, but they are very modest in scale. there's a, there's a british one that is very proud of here. i was, i got to mention these reports that the board johnson government wants to turn back boats on the channel, little rubber ding, ease of refugees. i understand they can only apply for asylum once they're in britain. so that's why they, they have to get here before they can apply. what do you make of the reports that

they might be doing this? we were, we were concerned by those reports primarily because of the potential for the safety of those who find themselves and see. and we feel that is important. but if someone does make it to the territory of a country and asylum seekers, they are given access to a fair asylum procedure. and of course, if they're in need of international protection, they should be granted that if they're not in need of international protection then, then there should be channels to allow them to return. that is of course difficult . and we would urge the u. k. government to negotiate with its partners in europe, especially the french, to try to create those channels whereby asylum seekers can be moved between 2 different countries. we used to have the dublin system. unfortunately, since brac sets the u. k is no longer a member of a party to that. so that channel has unfortunately been closed. we also the government to step up with what are known as safe and legal pathways for refugees.

so things like resettlement and family reunion. we think there's more that can be done in those areas. as you know, they're all sorts of ideas. maybe off shoring refugees, to places in africa. but just finally, we had terry golly. on a while back famed activists destroy and novice, he said when britain and nato countries launch was there should be a budget within the budget for the war. for refugees. do you think that's a good idea when the military attacks on libya, syria, wherever, calculated within the war budget should be a budget for refugees? easy solution is to find pace and to avoid conflict. of course, we think much more needs to be done by all stay active, to avoid conflicts, to find reconciliation and pace. and then to address in development with humanitarian support that can help to address the root causes of force displacement

so that people don't feel compelled to flee to countries and to try to move to safety in other countries. madness almost thank you. thank you for the show will be back on wednesday, 13 years to the day that lehman brothers filed the largest bankruptcy filing in us history marking a turning point in the 28 west and economic crisis until then keep in touch with us, my social media and let us know if using nato nations to do more when it comes to hosting refugees from what they started. ah, me the civic leg around the world, expedition by 1000 miles round the clock of dead calm. miss wilson in every country close by

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