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ah ah, ah ah, ah, ah. hello and welcome to cross top, where all things are considered. i'm peter labelle, is the vital presidency in terminal decline. this administration's handling of the coven pandemic the economy, and not least afghanistan sees this president underwater, in the polls in a big way in the country today. is just as divided as under trump. can this president turn things around the

cross talking to by the presidency, i'm joined by my guess internet panama, in london. he is professor of international politics at city university of london, as well as visiting professor at the london school of economics in atlanta. we have robert patello. he is a civil rights attorney and radio host. and in bulgaria, we cross the julio rivera. he is the editorial director of reaction 3 times identifying cross girls and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's go to our guest london energy. sometimes when you have distance from a situation, you see things more clearly. so tell me what you think of the by the ministration. what 9 months in now, is it what you expected? and what do you take away from the li praise? he's losing patients with tens of millions of the american people. voters, by the way, go heading london off. i think, yes, of course, the 1st 9 months of any presidency, there's very high expectations. there's a major change which occurred, obviously,

from the top administration. that major crises which president biden inherited, including the covariance, but also the, the economic effects of it, the polarization. so i think after 9 months you could say, i would think overall out of 10, i would say probably 7 and a half, which i don't think is far off what i would have expected. because i think we have to recall that in addition to the more immediate crises that president biden inherited, there were also kind of longer term crises. all kinds of legitimacy of the american political system itself. all of which president trump, to some extent was a lot of symptom as well. so i think you would be hard pushed to go any further than he has. but i'd say one big thing which is really shifted is that he actually has an approval rating of about 4 percent on the corona virus among the public opinion. so i think that's not a bad indicator of the way in which things have gone on that particular front,

despite the frustrations, of course, with the people who are very skeptical about the vaccine itself. ok, and so far in this program we have heard the most generous answer to my question. now i'm going to cut robert and robert, do you go ahead and react to the same question? we are, we are guests in london, says 7 and a half points. go ahead, jump it. think we're giving it a numerical number. i'll say about a 7. ok for, for president bite. and for a couple reasons. i think president biting was the 1st us president. they have to deal to be sure regime running in shadow government from the sidelines. probably 19 thirty's. i think the hand off between hoover and, and f d r was acrimonious with that to the point where the former president will still walk around the country pretending that each president pretending that he did not lose the election. that makes it impossible for the nation to heal. you have the senate and house republicans and still refused to simply say that joe biden is the president. you have a higher political wing of the country,

which instead of simply saying, we want to come together and independent. they're telling people to take horse be warmer, they're telling people to not pick me that seem to not follow any public health protocols. you have governors around the country, outlawing the amass mandate. thing that children cannot wear mask in schools. what do we know or to prevent the spread of the virus that that meant. in fact, the president bite and it was passed were walking in the door one ending a want to send through pen demik to ending a 20 year war in afghanistan, where the agreement was already reaching for you walked in the door in the door, 3, stabilizing an economy that was and that was already in free fall of free fall. busy because the previous administration, prioritized test cuts were built in air over stabilizing the bottom of the economy and keeping job growth going. so i think, given what joe biden was walking into 7 is about where i would put him. i still think that he could have done more to twist the arms of the people in his own party, p y mansion and send him to get more of his domestic agenda through. and for that,

i'm docking several points. i do think the sample could have been done better, but he was left in a hard situation, but he also get pollution points for that. okay, now, julio, you're going to give the opposing opinion. go ahead, my friend. i mean, you know, in all honesty, i have no clue what robert is talking about. the fact of the matter is, joe biden has been an unmitigated disaster in every single way. i mean, i would attach a negative number to the performance he's given so far on day one of his presidency . he came out with a blurry, of executive orders that did everything to undermine this economy. that he claims that he inherited a terrible economy from, from the fact of the matter as he did everything to you, basically stifle american energy independence, you know, that's had in the direct effect on the cost of everything. you know, his build back better plan earlier in the year were supposed to produce a 1000000 jobs and even crack 300000 new jobs in the report where they had

predicted a 1000000. in addition to that, you know, you've got the cybersecurity posture of the united states. we've suffered an audience, basically a measurable amount of damage in terms of having all these attacks coming from different countries. obviously advance persist in threats or permeating all over the world. under joe biden, now we finally got a new head of the so that's looking to address that with the help of the private sector. but the board of crisis, his executive orders, stopping board walk construction and basically putting up the messaging that he was going to look to legalize 11000000 new a legal residents coming in through the southern border from the northern triangle and from mexico. we've. that's the reason why we have the border prices that we have. and if you knew that you wanted to get everybody out of afghanistan, he should have, when you know about it in the proper way, as far as getting out, you know, americans, 1st, our civilian cooperators interact, any people who are going to be at risk. people who are being hunted now in the

street like wild game by the taliban should have been removed 1st. so there is no possible way to spin joe biden 1st 8 or 9 months into success. i in my opinion. ok, so we have 7.5. we have 7 and negative territory. let me go back to london. obviously not being trump was one of biden's biggest advantages in running. ok, because for whatever campaign he had the basement strategy and all that. but i mean, a lot of people rejected donald trump, but more people voted for him in the last election than in 2016. so my question is now, is that the fact that he isn't donald trump has that worn off now, is that kind of past, say, because you saw the media giving a buying a lot of cover. and then the events in afghanistan happened, then you saw a little bit of different directions there in or get what do you think about that? he's no, you know, he's not trump, at least he's not. trump is that is that me, me warn off now go ahead. well, it had, it was bound to be a bit of

a problem with even his base if you like, because there were those who were opposed to trump and very kind of vociferously so, and clearly they voted negatively. so biden is better than trump, but there's a lot of people who also on the left who wanted to not only oppose trump, but they also want a positive change. and i think to a large extent, president biden or candidly biden, and then president biden actually surprised me somewhat because we came up with a sort of an agenda which was much greater focus towards change. so the infrastructure plan, for example, was a very, very significant and quite radical step for someone who's got a very moderate centrist kind of background, the whole idea of the, the state, and the role, it would mean the economy, the reintroduction of science and expertise into the handling of the pandemic, the, the stopping of criticizing scientists like valgy and others. and i think those are

pretty big steps forward, which will take them. so i think there was already a kind of, i'm by the not just, not trump. and i think going towards 2022 and the midterm elections, i suspect that the, the biden will probably have a negative rating among public opinion, broadly speaking. and i suspect that they will fight the election on the fear that trump may be back in 2020. okay. that that's exactly what i was was getting at in that question there. ok. that their fear mongering element here. robert, is this the joe buying that you expected? because, i mean, you know, i probably, you know, the oldest on the program here. i mean, i remember when he call her with, with segue. segregationist. ok. and now he's, he's talking about, you know, the gym, the new jim crow and things like that. i mean, somebody my age watching his politics. i by the really quite astounding this is got it, but a version of joe biden, i've never seen before. go ahead. robert, i think you're interesting because i think with the way to joe biting campaigned in

the way that he won the election. yes, there was a very, very large amount of anti trump ism. but at the same time, there was a very strong domestic agenda that he campaigned on and much of that had ground to a halt result to us senate. have you look at the infrastructure deal with we thought was done in early summer, we're still lingering now we're still mansion is instead of not voting in favor of the $3.00 trillion dollar human infrastructure deal. you look at what we don't voting rights and voting rights that before the people that of george floyd just policing. there have been absolutely no traction on those thing. so then, going into 2200 people, people are going to want joe biden to absolutely be more aggressive on his domestic agenda. nobody is voting for you to be trump, like nobody is voting for you to carry up the team, partying the mega agenda. you get the agenda done for the people that you want to get it done for. and that's how you, when elections. ok, but wholly, i mean away, what is the democratic party right now? i mean, be a, oh, see the bernie sanders and all that. i mean, i'm very,

very confused because i don't feel whole lot of leadership if the president is going to have the genuflect to these people, what kind of leader is that of the party? yeah, go ahead. exactly. you listed. i think the democratic party has kind of morphed into the party that'll say whatever they feel that they need to say at the, the time that to sound good or to win an election. these are the people that were saying last year that they wanted to the fund, the police, then you had a summer of unprecedented violence who had writing crime rates all the while. these are liberal areas, really areas that are controlled by democrats. now they're trying to reverse course on that. so that's why bad legislation like the jordan floyd policing act and all these other attempts across the country to try to defend the police are grinding to a halt. now that human infrastructure is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard in my life. this is not what america need, not after spending trillions of dollars that we didn't have to try to sustain the american populace during an on present at it. and demi,

this is like if doubling tripling quadrupling down on bigger government and wasteful spending. yes, it at the end of the day with inflation rising with the economy grinding to a hole in all the problem that we've had as a result of the pandemic. and now, joe biden, coming in on top of that, they're going to try to raise taxes on job creators. and they're going to attempt at some point this war to use reconciliation to pass a package of tax increases. now that's really going to be bad for them headed into i think, the midterm. i don't see that there's only a whole that hold that thought we're going to go to a short break. and after that sure, continue our discussion on the biden presidency. stay with our the the

who while the make no, certainly no borders and the blind number piece is emerge. we don't have authority. we don't actually, the whole world needs to take action and be ready. not a joke. people are judgment, crisis, we can do better. we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way, but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is to response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes it feel very proud that we are in it together in join me

every thursday on the alex salmon show and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the moon the welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the biting presidency. ah, ah okay, let's go back to london. well, viewers of this program though, that i self identify as a conservative, but i'm a basically a populous conservative. i'm not much of a libertarian, and i don't have a problem spending money on people. i think it's good investing in people is very

good. but what, what was what's being interjected into all of this that i find very disturbing and i find both sides of the aisle doing it is the culture war. and i don't think joe biden is very good at it because of my previous reference and he is an old segregationist. i mean, it, he's just been brought up in a very different time. when i hear to go by and talk to you about equity is like, what did you just learn that word a few months ago? okay. good. that's not, that's not you. ok. and again, they chose to kind of the, the influence of the party and members, different elements of the party have on him. and i find that really, really destructive you, as you know, we, there was the commemoration of 911 over the last few days here. and then having the former president of the united states, george bush interject january 6, and comparing it to 911, i find personally ghastly. and what that does is divide the country even more. we need unity. joe, isn't that guy? he isn't up to the task. go ahead in london. well, i think joseph biden,

the very long political career and as you said he's, he's more of a weather way, very politician than a conviction politician overall. he's a centrist democrats from a state state of delaware. the massive number of corporations are domiciled there and so on for tax purposes and he's at the center of the party. but you know, if you look at the opinion, polls in the run up to 2020, the democratic primaries and so on. the people who oppose trump one to 2 things, one they want to trump out. and 2nd, they wanted someone who was a relatively mainstream, old white guy, politician who wouldn't shake things up too much on the one hand. but there's a lot of people who want to change and you know, a president biden combined, some of those characteristics. and he, the sort of a lot of people wanted, after 4 years of tomorrow to us politics. and i think that's what american people really voted for. and to some extent, the fact that he's inherited these crises and that he is 878. and that he may not

necessarily have a 2nd term. i suspect created a condition or a context where he would probably be more radical. and his ideology may suggest that is to say, you know, upon demick, you're going to have to do something big through government, about the pandemic unit and economic crisis. you're going to have to do a lot more to bring the state intervening into the economy and, and quite frankly, you know, the kind of home market driven strategy and philosophies in the reagan era. grinding to a halt under the whole weight of polarization, partly driven by income and wealth inequality, or easy narrative, a very large number of things in a way. i think, p 40 thinking about his place in history. and i suspect that he's going to be more radical, and he is already proven it in a way compared with what we might afford. so i wouldn't sort of condemn him for that. i don't think he's already radical enough. that is,

he can't actually go against the wall street case, which is so significant still for the democratic party. and i don't think you can do as much in regard to taxation of big corporations and so on. which is, i think what the left of the party would want. well that, that is that that's what makes all of american politics toxic on but on both houses a play gone both their houses in my pin here. i'm going to mix the order up here, julio. i mean, we heard that, you know, during the campaign during the inaugural address, that he would be the unifier. but he says he's losing patience with tens of millions of americans. what kind of units unifier is that, i mean, that would be, that would be tulsa commemoration was very, very diverse of here. i mean, is this an intentional strategy? i mean, basically, intentionally dismissing a good chunk of the electorate. i mean it's basically, he's doing a dirty harry make my day, is that good politics, julio? go ahead. oh, it absolutely isn't. and there's no possible way that this guy could have been,

they unify or, i mean, this is a guy that said he didn't want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle. this is the guy that said if you had trouble deciding between him and trauma, that you weren't black. and quite frankly, i want to take exception with my counterpart there in london describing that from presidency to mold to the from presidency was to most with but to many in the international community. because trump decided that he wanted to take care of the interest of americans 1st. so that marginalize, all of the things that america had been doing previously money that was being spent on the, you know, given of war nations, money that was being invested into international groups like natal. and that's the reason why the perception of him maybe internationally, was that his presidency was to move with. but it really wasn't. america had an unprecedented economy. the best that we ever had. g d p rope which was bought to be dead and stuck at the 1.4 percent level under president obama. this is going to be the new more and more that's skyrocketed to more than double that president from

president. he was very, very successful. the problem is, the democrats have control of the media and the media has been perpetuating lies about racism. and division that is manufactured by left. this bought leaders to go ahead and to try to steal this election in the midst of the coven pandemic, with all the new changes to the election that went into effect. obviously with male voting. and a lot of rules changes to extend days. president trump will win probably in 2024 and they're getting out in front of it by trying to create these optics. that all we can have president trump back. he was such a failure. all these problems that are happening now is because trump left them, you know, all the left basically bite in a mess, but none of that is actually true. ok, who we are just as a footnote here. nato is more angry at joe biden now than they ever were with. yeah, that's true. okay, robert. i mean it's, they, with the uni, being the unified here. i mean, can you convince me in our audience that he is the unified because the language he,

he's using is, is basically, like i said, doing a dirty harry. he did. he seems to be completely dismissive, the concerns that people of the people that disagree with him and a leader shouldn't do that kind of thing. i mean, as much as you just like donald trump, donald trump, didn't intentionally is, as far as i remember, try to alienate people. go ahead, robert. well, i've never met a person who dislikes donald trump, i'm a, i'm a policy driven individual. i think the president trump's policy failed america, and that's the last lecture by nearly 8000000 votes mathematic to the thing. i don't think any president can allow a half 1000000 people to die on his watch and is but to win reelection. then i love the myth making of the right where they have decided that we don't believe your line guys believe what we told you about president trump hills, hunky dory, it was north, everything was great. we were walking on changing field streets and all those things. well, joe biden was realizing he came, i still believe that a bygone era,

people who was an error with the senate would pass judicial nominees $99.00 to $1.00 point on the arrow down over cocktails. and you, you and trent lott and from durham and you can have a discussion and then you tackle. so these are, these are the things that do not existing where you have a militarized right in this country, having president of war president who has never conceded the election, who has told his people to by no means work across party lines. even in the best interest of the american people, these people have decided they, they are trumpet before they are americans. they have decided that in support. the jane where it says writers war told that need to court law enforcement. this is why on september 11th, instead of president from joining the president, a former president and install a committee ration, what happened to people that we lost. he had his own pep rally across town because he decided that his own personal ego, his own personal brand, is more important in the united states of america. the constitution that we all

whereby this is why is cruiser joe biden understand the fight before him? and this is why he has become more calcified in many statements. you become more aggressive than things like the vaccine rollout. it mandates as well as robert robert. you know, if i were to time, if i could stay with you because we have diametrically opposed narratives here and that's, that's okay. that's what i like on cross talk here. but do you think that agonizing, trump supporters is the way to go about it. i blossom, i'm losing my patience is that leadership rhetoric because i think it's called, it's very counterproductive. go ahead continue. robert. or i think this is working . understand where americans that today, where you have people who are willing to take horse the worm are like i've come out with that. you know that robert, please. that one in exaggeration. you know that i'm surprised you go for that talking point. ok. this is a, this is a medicine intern nationally recognize for so many multiple purposes and,

and defaulting to that is not a fair characterization here. but let me hang on. let me ramos, out of time, you go to london because i want to be conciliatory. i want to be that uniter. ok. it's go back to london. what is joe biden need to do to reach across the aisle? because it looks like he's just doesn't care. maybe i'm wrong. maybe it's an election ploy. and you said, you know, he's, you know, may not run for another 4 years. he probably won't. what you know, it's 2022 is coming up and it's looking to be a bloodbath. and not in favor of the democrats. go ahead in london. i think there's 2 things i would say, peter, one is that president biden does operate, and joe biden before that as well. that's all pretty. but this idea of grassroots bipartisanship. yeah. and they're in, within the infrastructure plans, although the 3 trillion. i think he wanted to go above the party politics and into the state with various kinds of infrastructure projects which create a lp, a more stable economy and quality. but the problem is that the future in terms of

his political future lies with the handling of the pandemic. and if the pandemic continues to roy long than the political climate for him and his party is going to be very, very negative. so, to some extent, losing patience in a way is backing the majority of the electorate and population. but isn't it? but aren't you say that i wanna finish with you? isn't he saying i'm losing patience? speak with the electorate in the media because my legacy is at stake. it seems to be very focused on joe biden, instead of really what it's agenda should be finish up the point we're going to the program. go ahead. well, as i said, any president, and i think this one in particular perhaps is looking at that place in history. and history is going to judge in 1020 years time. what did you do when you came in and you, you inherited all these crises? what did you do as a one of the most experienced connotations of this generation?

and how did you handle it? and your name is going to be 25 2nd. solely. oh, go ahead. 25 seconds, go. i looked at alternately. i think joe biden and his, the people were out there defending him, trying to make it seem like he didn't really foul up afghanistan, like all these issues were inherited from president trump. i think it's just been, he was not prepared. he did not have a proper agenda that was good for america, the border crisis and all the other problems that were having are an example of that. i think that next year the republicans will retake both chambers and in 2020 or whoever runs for the g o. p will be the next president. okay, we end on that note. many thanks to them, i guess in london, atlanta and invoke area. and thanks to our viewers for watching is here to see you next time and remember, cross cross the ah,

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