as looting, iraq's national treasures and museums, there was also something else being looted before iraq, a national lives, the toil industry, but after 2003, well, let me put it this way. when there was math floating in baghdad, the only building us army decided to protect was the ministry of oil go figure. iraq is that one of the best health care systems in the entire middle east before the invasion. there were 34000 doctors. literally half of them. 17000 doctors left a rock after 2003. 12 percent of iraq's hospitals were destroyed and told this was taken on civilians. look at the example of felicia, a city retake in 3 times. in 2004, the u. s. completely destroyed. one 5th, 20 percent of all the buildings in the u. s. dropped so many bombs. they literally turn the city radioactive from all the depleted uranium and chemical weapons. now solution is one of the highest rates of cancer and infant mortality in the world with children being born with her ripping birth defects. child birth defects skyrocketed with some 33 times the rate in europe, the birth defects. and for lucia are even higher than in hero shima. nagasaki,

which the us destroyed with 2 nukes. so was it worth it? what exactly did a ra gained from all this in the last 20 years? let's do a quick recap. will the kurds in iraq were gassed by saddam now enjoy their own autonomy region so they've certainly made strides despite everything else. what about the situation in general and iraq health care system destroy the energy infrastructure, destroy the massive brain drain, all the doctors, engineers, and people needed to run the country and rebuild are gone millions of refugees. and so many people did. we don't even know the actual number because it's likely over a 1000000 killed by us and coalition forces and al qaeda and i this, there are many grades that haven't even been found yet. so if the 1st gulf war starved iraq and derailed its public infrastructure, the 2nd invasion in 2003 obliterated the country almost 2 decades later, iraq is still under occupation. it hasn't even begun to recover. and by any sensible metric, it is worse off than it ever was before the war. once again, a clear example how the war on terror was a fraud. the nation building was

a scam and the only people benefiting our private contractors, mercenaries, and foreign oil companies. well, you can watch more of those episodes anytime if your life is archie dot com also want you to page the 1st is already online, exploring the early phase of americas global campaign against terrorism. that just about wraps up the news program for this half hour though it's already turning into a busy friday for you and news. we are back in 27. you know, you mean many people in life were excellent and then you meet the goals of the world, julio, like one of the few people to come out of the cosmic wave ride of childhood, start that big and be a solid citizen with his own daughter. now and his own happy life, he continues where he's got a great podcast now, and we'll talk all things. julio white right after this, denise really plus one this

week one we've had like 2 or 3 guests since l. a reopened up to some degree. come in and we're lucky rejoined by actor gillian. why these come to the show today? he has a podcast. i don't want to bury the lead. i love the earth thing, but my mom's got a project right now. let me show the soap here. currently as part has called ever after, as unhappily with you, little life to son, trailer for it's a success story at times where you often hear trouble and you can hear it wherever you get your podcast. he also adapted podcast into a television show on the streaming service topic. that's where i show the trailer from the 1st episode aired on august 26. you of course now i'm stephen article from family matters 89 to 98 along with mark the biggest step in for one episode. ball out of the park in the history of television. so good the

welcome julie white. how are you? my friend? good. good dropped your baby after school today. good for you. coming in next week . i'm a sentimental day. they get out of the car quicker. past the age of 12 the right. they do that? yes. you to pull down. you know, there's no huh. no kids, not, that is just a quick regular grab bag grab into a paid for you. when it gets when it gets senior high school, you know much. they don't stop does slow down slow the challenge are done. let me realize. yeah, between my daughters exit from my car, my whiskers. madame started village by giller bay via the you the was yo to cap list of and i when i saw the trailer for the show, the tv, the broadcasts, i guess they're calling him when you do a tv thing based on that cast. i was just so happy to see well balance. you can tell me about your journey. you become a just monster here. i don't mean,

but your parents fill me in. yeah, they grounded, you know, it was just my parents and i have a day to be quite honest man. they, they grew up in here in los angeles. they're crenshaw high school sweethearts. we had no ambitions at all to even become famous. my mom only wanted me to act like make extra money to go to college and that will write it easy away. and so when it happened, it hit all of us. my surprise and my mom actually had one thing that she was absolutely passionate about. he's not leaving public school fact ironically, throughout the entire run of the show i was in public school, the entire doctor to launch it is out in the area she different than the other. can her mom in her mind that somehow kept me kept me more nor more more ground and listen when it came to bully and in certain other instances? yes it did. we didn't have cell phones of camera phone back then. ever they won capture. and you know, i lives with the day that i live back now and i'm like, oh, that would be the issue with the church. and i got my,

i remember this may be one of my lunch money every day. and you said if you tell anybody about this a little more and i listen, i don't look guy, i can still at 67, get our thing up my spine. but look back on at that point, you got reino scare, you didn't survive. i mean you had on with the i love the share, i'm a 13 year old kid, the becoming the star of a g. v show none. unbeknownst to me, really and i got some big university flicking pencil in the back of my head and i couldn't find him. he was big as my dad. so i just we pick up the pencils and stick them in my backpack. and then finally came up to me and he was like, i give him a pencils bag. i was like, now there you go around a pencil. if you want to keep blue. that was, that was my say, that was like, you know, i got 5 pencils now and so the negroes launch me to the bag and glad i was getting like a squirrel. my dad gave to the school is done in say before you know it, it was a scene lean on me. they miss like a free lease. you made

a statement. don't bother with direct me to do them and judge they to stay. but i did. i made it out with a black guy and i got them extra. so we bought before it all, you make a guest appearance and then all hell break. i mean literally one of the biggest things in the culture urkel. what, what, what about some of the groundwork before that commercial stuff? yeah. man, on the toys rest kid, you know, i did problem 50 national commercials. i was on the jefferson's was probably one of my most memorable get jersey sherman. oh, absolutely, absolutely. you know, at that time you come up with here vash. i've been with 7th these, all of them that like red sanford. so they inhabited that it's hard to talk about this. got them with young people. they're just like a and a shrug, sharp handling. and that's probably my most memorable guest appearance i was on the show called mister belvedere. i did robert, you know i did. i did m o w with charlie sheen when i was

a kid who movie the week at this i was called kid kids don't tell. yeah. it was. and i was like a, i was in them some kid hospital with cancer and, you know, i used to make the most w e, the initiated and movies we have the week of the week. i'm sure like one step from there or maybe she after school there was a whole world before you went into the i was, i was a grizzled vet. mad. i had a sad god for a while, but a time i was, well, he is always that are edition for the or carrion. oh yeah. and i was a famous edition for because everybody was there, the edition, for the cute, the good looking guy, the laura actually wanted to go out with. nobody wanted to edition for the role of the geeky guy who was only supposed to stay 11 saying, but i had braces on my teeth at the time. and so i was really high about that because i wasn't booking any jobs and they wanted you to be street, or they wanted you to do a guest appearance on webster. you could be taller than webster back then these

were the rules, like was definitely like the addition process i was really excited about that we had to be do other kids. i was like, i got braces of my teeth. i can do this, did united up probably 100 percent. my mom got me. how fit my dad got me, his glasses. this is all old story stuff. but and i had a kid moment because i asked my dad for the glass with tape in the middle from nerds. that was molly reference really at the time, my dad's notorious procrastinator. and he gave me, his blast is right off his face for work. and they just wobbled on my favorite like i had a mom and i got mild. it's not perfect. i'm not going to be good. i suck it up though i think i was good brother and became an arctic character. i swear spike was copy it. it would, it did mars commercial, right? i'm going to, oh, big spike would have an honest conversation with me about i don't have a i said, i just like trying like mine got me and then

you go from the one. i think it's a $1.00 and $1.00 an off supposed to be, but they folks at tv, if there's the chargeable minute by minute they do it and it's hard to raise it or people laugh and they know they are on to something they come back and they make a proper, right. i always like to say, you know, i was the last one to know. i was famous that dash, especially before social media. oh my gosh. you only, you knew you were famous when you stepped off a plane in new york and you had people waiting for you. you, you, you knew, you know, you knew you were famous when, when the phone is just ringing off how that how old were i guess i started, i did it started 12 and i went from 12 to 21. now the jump or part was, was going to college. that was when he started to be concerned to wear on me a little bit. now you want be cool. yeah. you know, and at that time that was when the east west bob was everything to park and biggie . and i'm still where and i want to pass. so you know,

it was was affecting my call when i got to college. i kinda went through a period where i kind of rejected it, but they have a daughter and all that goes away. usually in inevitable stages why next? it's how it should be. and the only heartbreak to me when i hear the stories i hear so many, you see young girls who are disney shows and then they want to express 100. you get that, then be sex. and then and then they get beyond that. and they want to find their serious chops. it's all inevitable. the only heartbreak for me is when you hear about somebody who paid the dues upfront, didn't quite have the childhood. most people have but had a chance to get a real leg up money wise for the rest of their life and they go to find it and it's all gone. god knows there's a myriad stories. well, this sounds like you kept well there's, there's a 1000000 stories, the dentist and they all stem from the parents. i hope to get an opportunity one day to really put the spotlight where it belongs. and that's on the parents of the kid. sure. because those are the caricatures, those are the character where you go,

all i see with this is it's no different than the dad in the stands who have big designs on his kid to go the nfl, whatnot. and you can almost look at the dad's dad and show out is going to be real, is offline. and that's exact same thing. if you could look away from the screaming dad to the kid, i guarantee he's got his batting helmet pulled and he is stand. and now i just wanna just talk to my fans when i even they were awesome. different stuff. my mom was still giving me corporal punishment. man, i'm like yeah, you can. yeah. me being on the tv stuff. what a blessing. you know, what you you now with your daughter, i don't know if that one child. yes. oh god. i mean, you know, i really feel bad for the chain of events that lead somebody. you see how hard it is to break the patterns in these things. if the parents aren't there, yeah. kind of gives, he makes a stand maybe to be a better parent,

but he doesn't quite know the skills. sometimes it's revisiting it is a it's like the opposite. a lie and king brother of bad circle and my mom, my mom gave me a pretty good blueprint though. and then what i, what i kind of learn the 2nd my daughter was born is that our responsibilities to just kind of is, is bob from what they did, but don't repeat their mistake. and yet i think it's a forefront any parents. my was all my parents did that to me, so i'm not going to do that. my dad, even if 4 years old boy, you know, i was, i just found her on a but she was, she was, this'll banner me, nanny. pretty bad. and i'm just tell the way she looked at me and i was like, slight smart for me to be like a different, like, you know, like tell me what you did. the 4 years old is articulate. all i should have done this. i should have done that. you're telling me what you should have done, but we're here right now. and it was like, i knew right there for years and they were going for my hands, my daughter again. what an inciteful thing for young about my my last but when i

was 13 and my daughter who moved back to fort moody back to for so if she can get ready to get a never put a little ones that i really achieve. so it is beautiful though, when you learn from the previous generation, then you turn into mr. mer yagi. you just take your bonsai and start proving it. just like i said, i like, you know, it's like a tweak at this point, you know, coming in with the, the big hedge clippers and then she'll be, she'll even take it to the next level. we're talking to julia white currently has podcast called ever after. with julia white and these adapted to podcast into a television show in the streaming service topic. we're going to dive into this in the 2nd segment and ask you about some of the gas. see how the approach he takes. the 1st episode by the way, aired on topic on august 26th. he is a junior bloke. glad he came in. it's nice to meet him. julia was right after this on dennis miller plus one seafood

that maybe red orange was yellow. maybe we assume that they going to be on the suite to find a thing to receive a rounder soft and the resume again that they're going to be sweeter. and suddenly i have often said transparency for the powerful machine, for the bell. that's about privacy. what people care about is power. juliana sons is become a symbol of the battles of brevity. information is power. that's what's going on. and the huge struggle with governments and corporations who want to keep information secret and others who democratic rights should be pushed forward. and people have a right to know what to do. watch houses help shift the conversation around transparency. see what that battle has done to him. i feel like julian's life might

be coming to an end. we are in a conflict situation with the largest and most powerful employer in such a situation. it's remarkable, survive. western civilization and culture have been infected by a mindset. surprises ideology, over confident virtue over reason. and democracy is only a good idea if and when it's sort of a lead interest. then there's the issue of competent competence used to be rewarded . now the incompetence is overlooked when serving ideology what else do a lot of people do except we saw whole back seen and julio had a brilliant can see where he broke the broke of told brigitte,

mary, i don't want to discriminate too bad. well no, but the late jane pfizer, pfizer feels like griffin door. madonna feels very much like awful fluff for a job in johnson his social leather in. yeah. good luck with that one here to quarter. there's just there's, there's a darkness around that that i prefer. i prefer touch ashes indicate that random raven call, there you go. there they go. books. now you've got the lay atlantic as you choose your choose. julio has a podcast ever after which little white and the bod gas, based on a television show streaming service topic. you can find the 1st episode aired on august 26th. alright, you know, every. busy everybody says everybody has a broad guess. yeah. but it's like jerry seinfeld used to tell me. he had a theory of comedic constancy. and as you said, the number of stand up comedians proliferates by a power of 10 every year. but the number of truly adept ones remains constant at 37

and everybody does have a pod, but not all of them work and some are quite painful. what got you into it? give me the, let me the thought process and what, what's the template? i think what part of the thought process from my pock has ever after was i always see negative, you know, headlines associated with child actor. and i know the truth is, you know, most of us, i've actually matriculated into the business quite well and become doctors and lawyers and still work as directors and producers in the industry. and so i was like, you know, i just want to talk to the ones that, that made it. and i want to find out what are common threads. and i made sure that there was a match at when he's a directory directed game of thrones. several game of thrones episode. just got a bunch of nominations for the, the vision, the vision series for, for disney, the marble vision chair, you know, like the one of the want to yeah, exactly. that was mads and i grew up active with that since we were like 10 years

old. and we as a matter of fact, he and i both start in the, the pilot for say by the bell. we were of fire to replace. thank god, can we make more money going in the direction? but, but i've specifically said, hey, if i do this show, i want to make sure that i have people on who are not famous though, but they're right there under your nose ball and out of control and do an amazing thing. so here's one of my favorite episodes that we did because we had a very inside conversation that i felt was reliable though about mentors about what it is to connect with the right person at the young age so that you take off and his, his direct mentor was as wick and i was like, oh okay, well if you learn how to shoot samara sequences with, with tom cruise and you fetch the coffee. yeah. it's all the is tele fitting the 1050 years later, you gotta be directed game browse, battle sequences is which start i was 30 something is that was tv. yeah, exactly. yeah. yeah, yeah. and it goes under glory. that's

a glory. so that was math nights. so i'm sure that was years saw my mentor was less and less. yeah. let's just speed along. i don't want listen, what happens later in life? i don't know. at that point what he just gave me belief in your so yeah, no, you kidding me? less he was great to me as a kid, i got to say about less, almost feel bad because no, i'm not junior. i'm say let's go back to some kind of and i'm about to freak you out actually because like do be who wrote my lead is your recommendation for college where leslie move is because me and so i have these are let me just like be like yeah, will be like if you want to go there, there's the already at the job like open that then there is a good well who else would be ahead on besides the gentleman who

went on to do the game of thrones. oh gosh, i had melissa joan hart on. i had raven simone, i had haley joel osment. i really enjoy because i knew so he and i would connect quickly because he's heard i see dead people as much love her did i did that. we had a great conversation about just be, you know, any, be in public and dealing with that from different people with grace. and he's a very graceful do. ironically, he had preternatural acting chops. and a supernatural felt really when you watched him as a kid. wow. as something yeah. you know, you see certain young kids and you just go, wow, well i'm gone valley now. so you know, that was my dad was seen as july. he's over there. all he did. he did a great stay on silicon valley. that's what, that's what nobody shows, brother football. right? everybody's on episode 3 of like 10 different shows. right now. this is the way the view and works these days. you had brian austin greene on never seen. great what. what would you consider that brian have things before we ended up knowing him for

a show like, because that's not is that should act thing is marcher, you know, i think of 12 years old, so that, so this is the way it works. if you become more famous in your adult life than people almost forget any work you did when you were young. but you know, leo kind of got away with it because, you know, he became this incredible heart throb when he did titanic. but it was like, oh, this is a do from growing pains though, you know, who was doing it out with tobey maguire and brian broke it broken gilbert grape jim, i remember, but watching things i didn't know that showing, but i remember watching who is the thing that i always loved about leo is that i know, you know, just from growing up side by side with him on the periphery, is that he's really a character actor and i know he's, he's not, he's not a leading guy that you know, is concerned about his hair, so much concerned about the nuances and you know, the hand motions the, the likes to him or he like to immerse himself in the care. so i always feel like

what a good looking guy has the advantage of really loving the crap like that all is, you know, stop and you know, is the greatest. there is the ultimate example. you go back and look at brand new thing. how did a cat with that face and up having that strangle hold on the pain of the human condition? you know, i looked on brand i got from, you could all live much less reach and done in the stanley kowalski, but he had that debt. so it's like you're not used to getting that dev guy that go look at, you know, you know, you feel spoil watching them with you popsicle overall. did you have to make peace for that? you talked about going to college and you have begun to pack and you're but you must move. i would hope you would embrace that. it was a blessing to play. like if you said it better than me, you say, you know, i'm just, i'm going through the stages of life and i don't really, you know, i'm honest. i don't really feel like i fully embraced it until my daughter was born . yeah, well my daughter was born. i'm like, oh wow,

gave her school tuition. i'm going to be a problem and you know it, you know, it also there was a pride there and i'm not even the want to introduce her to my formal work. everybody else does. everybody else in the one that wants to tell her who are daddy's. and even she went to a phase where, you know, she, she would have to, she would cry if somebody wanted completely cry. somebody want to take a picture with me. and then she would turn it to the photo barber, and then she does what do the different stay there? my favorite stage was i went, i brought a tear to my where i went to a classroom and she had written written papers, celebrities that they admired and she wrote a paper on me. and i didn't even know she had done that. and when i'm reading it, i really i takes about like my favorite thing about my dad is when i know he doesn't want to take pictures with someone, but he gives you a picture anyway. and put that in a paper just goes to show you like again they don't, they don't listen anything that we say they watch what we do. yes. that's that's,

that's a good 30 percent of parents right there. that's why your parent can be the biggest store in the world or the most every, every man and later in life. if you took a principal approach the cards that you were dealt, your kids will never forget that every, not everybody's coming out of the box and be talking crew. i'm not, i'm just saying why is life lead? well, and we're the end of the niceties, the other kids, the adherence to the rules, and also the free thinking, all mix and then got to kids made per life. and you know what, julio, you see in the heartbreaks out there with kids. if you don't have and yet you are so it's tough to get it off the launching path from get go. i job my reply with tremendously manage especially my religion with her and music too much. your name was my some i and you are growing up. drops are up in school, she have any chops if you want to act or what's her thing. ok,

so i don't have any sisters alley and one mom that was always in my business. you, these ladies are going to do what they want to do. nobody's going to tell them what to do. i've been trying to smile. you've got a dance. you think you're good dance. you want to try dance. they've called tick tock. know you're dan, see what's not going to be like in her mind. she doesn't see that you dancing, it's tick tock. so you live the way for her to now she has a dance class this year. so i got excited about that because i'm hoping maybe the teacher will let her know how you got mo data. you know, she's got to find it on our own. i'm in no rush. i. she kind of hope she does find arts a little towards the backend of her ation. and then that me, she got a full education. listen when you're driving or that class today for the 1st they got a smile on her face. writes, it's a big home run right off the bat. i mean you want a happy kid? yes, she's had a small vehicle. i was talking to you up is what they're you blessed enough to have your parents still julia. yes,

but parents are still they must be so proud of your parents. they've read. they've reached the nutty stage. now they are officially nuts. my mom. all she wanted for mother's day was an instagram post. i'm like, mom, that's such a wretched thing to ask for. you, you don't like my pictures enough on my, i'm not really dealing with this with my mom. she puts up the strangest content. i see it almost keep moving like it's an ex girlfriend. it's not that bad. it's bad stuff, but that's a beautiful name. so it's true. like, you know what i mean? now it's called nuts. told her that it was nice jay, but still it sounds like they're open to more magical approach. like now it's, it's like we're in that everybody loves raymond portion of life. now it's, well listen, brother, you're blessed if on both sides of that, if the younger generation is happy and you still bus to have your parents, you came through. it reminds them watching a thing called

a 100 footway of where these guys go into the tube and then they explode out at the end you had that's. you got a big way, brother. you exploded out of the tube and you're still stand and you're blessed man, i am. i don't. well, and i'm a little better off for me, new year. good kat, i enjoy my time with you. thank you. big up. all right, julio, white folks, just let me sell the soap here. the podcast is ever after with julia. why? as i said earlier, as in happily ever after. and it sounds like a nice approach, man meeting other people who have gone on where that is the 1st act and the next act is life should be sometimes the heartbreak, the 1st act, supercede, the other acts. that's not the balance, but we're exploring how you could make that work. and the podcast has been turned into a tv show adaptive streaming device service called topic t o. p. i see in the 1st episode aired august 26 july. why? thank you very much. this is denise miller plus one.

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