kaiser's financial while the guy i don't buy a guy on the teachers, that's not an almost friday at the last time i buy it from the future. so for i can watch kaiser you know, you mean many people in life works on and then you meet the goals of the world. julio, like one of the few people to come out of the cosmic waves ride of childhood, start that big and be a solid citizen with his own daughter now and his own happy life. he continues where he's got a great podcast now, and we'll talk all things. julio white right after this. done his really plus one. this week one we've had like 2 or 3 guests since l. a reopened up to some degree.

come in and we're lucky rejoined by actor gillian. why he's come to the show today . he has a podcast. i don't want to bury the lead. i love the earth thing, but my mom's got a project right now. let me show the soap here. currently as part has called ever after and has been happily with you, little life to son, trailer for it's a success story at times where you often hear trouble and you can hear it wherever you get your podcast. he also adapted podcast into a television show on the streaming service topic. that's where i showed the trailer from the 1st episode aired on august 26 year. of course now i'm steven urkel from family matters $89.00 to $98.00 along with mark the biggest step in for one episode. ball out of the park in the history of television. so good the welcome julie white. how are you? my friend go very good. you're up to baby school today. good for you. coming in next week. i'm

a sentimental day. they get on the car quicker. past the age of 12. right? they do that? yes. you to pull down? no, there's no huh. no kids, nothing is just a quick regular grab bag. grab into a paid for you. when i get, when i get senior high school, you know much they don't. those slow down slow the challenge are down. let me realize. yeah, between my daughters exit from my car, my wisdom man. i'm starting to feel which i give you the you the was yoda kat listerman i. when i saw the trailer for the show, the tv the bod counts, i guess they're calling him. when you do a tv thing based on that cast, i was just so happy. busy to see a well balance can tell me about your journey. you become i just monster hit. i don't about your parents film in. yeah, they grounded, you know, it was just my parents and i every day to be quite honest man they, they grew up in here in los angeles. they are crenshaw high school sweethearts. we

had no ambitions at all to even become famous. my mom only wanted me to act like maybe i should want to go to college and i will write it easy away. and so when it happened, it hit all of us by surprise. and my mom actually had one thing that she was absolutely passionate about. he's not leave in public school. i radically, throughout the entire run of the show i was in public school, the entire doctor, you want you to is out in the area she different than the other. can her mom in her mind that somehow kept me kept me more normal, more ground and listen when it came to bullying and certain other instances? yes, it did. we didn't have cell phones of camera phone back then. everyone captured. and you know, i lives with a that i look back at now and i'm like, that would be the issue with the church. and i got my kicked, i remember this can tell me one of my lunch money every day. and you said if you tell anybody about this, ok a little more and i listen, i don't look guy, i can still at 67, get our thing up my spine. but look back on at that point,

you got reino scare, you didn't survive. i mean, yeah. that on with the i love the share, i'm a 13 year old kid, the becoming the star of a g. v show none. unbeknownst to me really and i got some big university flicking pencil in the back of my head and i couldn't find him. he was big as my dad, so i just, we pick up the pencils and stick them in my backpack. and it finally came up to me and he was like, i give him a pencils bag. i was like now, there you go, right? a pencil, if you want to keep blue. that was, that was my say, like, you know, i got 5 pencils now. so you love the negroes. launch me to the bag of glad you like a squirrel monday again to the school. it's say before you know it was the scene lean on me, they miss like a free. she made a statement. don't bother with dramatic judge. they to stay, but i did. i made it out without a black guy, and i got some extra tell me about before at all,

you make a guest appearance and then all hell break. i mean literally one of the biggest things in the culture urkel. but what, what, what about some of the groundwork before the commercial stuff? yeah, man, on the toys arrest kid, you know, i did problem 50 national commercials. i was on the jefferson's was probably one of my most memorable guess areas in the sherman. oh, absolutely, absolutely. you know, at that time you to come home. it was here. i mean was 7 be thought like read it sanford. so they inhabited that it's hard to talk about these got us of young people to just like, and they shrug sharp handily. and it's probably my most memorable guest appearance i was on the show called mister belvedere. i did robert, you know? yeah, i did. i did a m o w with charlie sheen. when i was a kid who movie the week i was at this that was called kid kids don't tell. yeah. it was. and i was like a was them some kid the hospital with cancer and, you know,

i used to make the most, nobody really and initiated in the movie as a, we have the week we are the week show about 81 step from there, or maybe see after school, so there was a whole world before you went into the i was, i was a grizzled vet. mad. i had a sad god. while by the time i was 12 years, always that edition for the car. oh yeah. and i was a famous edition for because everybody was there, the edition for the q, get the good looking guy the laura actually wanted to go out with. nobody wanted to edition for the role of the geeky guy who was only supposed to stay 11 seen but i had braces on my teeth at the time. and so i was really high about that because i wasn't booking any jobs and they wanted you to be street, or they wanted you to do guest appearance on webs, or you could be taller than webster back then these were the rules like was different. 5 so the edition process i was really excited about gladly had to be do other kids. i was like,

i got braces of my teeth. i can do this, did united up 100 percent. my mom got me. how fit my dad got me. his glasses. this is old story stuff but and i had a kid moment because i asked my dad for the glass with tape in the middle from window nerds. that was molly reference really at the time, my dad's notorious procrastinator. and he gave me his glasses right off his face for work and they just wobbled on my favorite. like i had a mom and i got mouth. it's not perfect. i'm not going to be good and i sucked it up. i think i was good brother and became an architectural character. i swear. spike was coffee. it it. when they did mars commercials, right. i don't think spike would have an honest conversation with me about i don't have a i said i just like it's like like my god me and then you go from the one i think it's a one and one an off supposed to be. but they folks at tv,

if they're so the charitable minute by minute they do it and it gets hard to raise that or people laugh and they know they are on to something they come back and they make a proper i always like to say, you know, i was the last one to know i was that that's especially before social media. my gosh, you only knew you were famous when you stepped off a plane in new york. you had people waiting for you. you, you, you knew, you know, you knew you were famous when, when the phone is just ringing off at that point, general, how old were you? i guess i started and it started 12 and i went from 12 to 21. now the jumper part was, was going to college. that was when he started to be concerned to wear on me a little bit right now. you want to be cool. yeah. you know, and at that time that was when the east west have got was everything to park and biggie. and i'm still where and i want to pass. so you know, it was was affecting my call when i got to college. i kind of went through a period where i kind of rejected it, but they have a daughter and all that goes away. usually in inevitable stages why it's how it

should be. and the only heartbreak to me when i hear the stories i hear so many, you see young girls who are disney shows and then they want to express 100. you get that, then be sex. and then and then they get beyond that. they want to find their serious chops. it's all inevitable. the only heartbreak for me is when you hear about somebody who paid the dues upfront, didn't quite have the childhood. most people have but had a chance to get a real leg up money wise for the rest of their life and they go to find it and it's all gone. god knows there's a myriad stories. well, this sounds like you kept well there's, there's a 1000000 stories, the dentist and they all stem from the parents. i hope to get an opportunity one day to really put the spotlight where it belongs. and that's on the parents of the kid. sure. because those are the caricatures, those are the character where you go, oh, i see what this is. it's no different than a dad in the stand who has big designs on his kid to go the nfl, whatnot. and you can almost look at the dads,

the dad and chill out is going to be real, is on slide. that's exact same thing. if you could look away from the screaming dad to the kid, i guarantee he's got his batting helmet cold. and he is stand and now i just wanna just talk to my fan when i even they were awesome. different stuff. my mom was still giving me corporal punishment. man, i'm like yeah, you can get me being on the tv stuff. what a blessing you know, what you, you now with your daughter, i don't know if that one child. yes. well god, i mean, you know, i really feel bad for the chain of events that lead somebody. you see how hard it is to break the patterns and these things. if the parents aren't there. yeah. like kind of gives the, makes a stand maybe to be a better parent, but it doesn't quite know the skills. sometimes it's revisiting it is a it's like the opposite ally and king brother of bad circle. my mom,

my mom gave me a pretty good blueprint though. and then what i, what i kind of learned the 2nd my daughter was born, is that our responsibilities to just kind of is while from what they did, but don't repeat their mistake. and yet i think it's a forefront any parents. my was all my parents did that to me so i'm not going to do that. my dad, even a 4 years old boy, you know, i was, i just found her on a but she was, she was, this will banner me, nanny. pretty bad. and i just tell the way she looked at me and i was just like, slight, smart for me to be beaten. you know? like, under different like tell me what you did there for years old as articulate. all i should have done this. i should have done that. you're telling me what you should have done, but we're here right now. and it was like, i knew right data for years. i was out there. we're going for my hands, my daughter, get what an inciteful thing for young about my my last but when i was 13 and my daughter you moved back to fort moody becca for so if she can, if she can get a never put a little ones, they're not really achieved. it is beautiful though. when you learn from the

previous generation, then you turn in the mr mer yagi. you just take your bonsai and start proving it, just like, you know, it's like a tweak at this point, you know, coming in with the hedge clippers and then she'll be, she'll even take it to the next level. we're talking to julia, why currently has podcast called ever after? with julia white and these adapted to podcast into a television show in the streaming service topic. we're going to dive into this in the 2nd segment and ask you about some of the gas. see how the approach he takes the 1st episode by the way. air on topic, on august 26th. he is a genial bloke. grad came in. it's nice to meet him. julia was right after this. on dennis miller plus one i

the pacific leg around the world expedition 5000 miles round the clock and the dead calm as every country, close by the crew. gavin's food and water. and to go to chat, nurse also lutheran little thing is got everybody locked down or almost no food and no. what about that? only? i'm not sure somebody stuck up in the cove if you're

living like the semen of own but in the 21st century, me join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guess in the world . the politics sport business. i'm show business, i'll see you then. me ah, working your machine in the back. she popped in. she said, well, i'm getting ready to go shopping for christmas. and we recycle by. there was a grim divide, another shooting another safe part of american life shattered by violence. the gunman was armed with a our 15th 70 automatic rifle. when the issue comes home, it's time to act when we're violent on this issue. the other side wins. by default,

lady that lived over there, i was walking one of the dogs. why do you wear again? were you scared? i took it off and i think the people need to take responsibility in their own hands and be prepared if those kinds of weapons were less available. we wouldn't have a lot of shootings and we certainly wouldn't have the number that i just what else do a lot of people do except were so i oh back seen her and julio had a brilliant can see where a broken the broke of tell yeah. break it down mary. i don't want to discriminate too bad. well no, but the late jane pfizer. pfizer feels like griffin door. madonna feels very much like awful bluff for a job in jobs and so slither and yeah,

good luck with that one here to quarter. there's just there's, there's a darkness around that that i prefer. i prefer touch asters indicate that random raven call. there you go. there they go. books now you've got the lay of the land as you should. you choose. julio has a podcast ever after which little white and the bod gas, based on the television show streaming service topic. you can find the 1st episode aired on august 26th orient, you know, every. busy everybody says everybody has a broad guess. yeah. but it's like jerry seinfeld used to tell me. he had a theory of committee constance in the over as he said, the number of stand up comedians proliferates by a power of 10 every year. but the number of truly adept ones remains constant at 37 and everybody does have a pod, but not all of them work and some are quite painful. what got you into it? give me the, let me the thought process and what, what's the template? i think what part of the thought process from my pock has ever after was,

i always say negative, you know, headlines associated with child actor. and i know the truth is, you know, most of us, i've actually matriculated into the business quite well and become doctors and lawyers and still work as directors and producers in the industry. and so i was like, you know, i just want to talk to the ones that, that made it. and i want to find out what are common threads. and i made sure that there was a med check when he's a directory directed game of thrones. several game of thrones episode. just got a bunch of nominations for the, the vision, the vision series for, for disney, the marble vision chair, you know, like the one of the wanted to yeah, exactly. that was match. and i grew up active with that since we were like 10 years old. and we as a matter of fact, he and i both start in the, the pilot for saved by the bell. we were fired and replaced by god. can we make

more money going a little direction? but, but i've specifically said, hey, if i do this show, i want to make sure that i have people on who are not famous though, but they're right there on the, you know, ball and out of control and do an amazing thing. so here's one of my favorite episodes that we did because we had a very inside conversation that i felt was reliable though about mentors about what it is to connect with the right person at the young age so that you take off and his, his direct mentor was as wick and i was like, oh okay, well if you learn how to shoot samara sequences were partly with tom cruise and you fetch in the coffee. yeah, it's all the is all tele fitting the 10. 50 years later, you gotta be directed game of thrones battle sequences is which start i was 30 something is that was tv. yeah, exactly. yeah, yeah, yeah. then it goes under glory. glory. so that was math. nice. i'm sure that was yours or my mentor was lessing. well, that, yeah, let's just speed along. i don't what i would listen. what happens later in life?

i don't know at that point what he just gave me belief in your so. yeah, now you can, it made the less he was great to me as a kid, i got the say about almost feel bad because no, i'm not. yes, junior, i'm say look it back. you some caught up and i'm about to freak you out actually, because like, do be who wrote my letters your recommendation for college were leslie moved as bill cosby? and so i have the through lead that just like be like yeah, will be like if you want to go there, there's already at the job like open that then the going to be ahead on besides the gentleman or went on to do the game of thrones gosh, i had melissa joan hart on. i had raven simone, i had haley joel osment. i really enjoy because i knew so he and i would connect quickly because he's heard i see dead people as much love her did i did that,

but we had a great conversation about just being in be in public and dealing with that from different people with grace and he's a very graceful do. ironically he had preternatural acting chops, and a supernatural fell when, when you watched another kid while as something. yeah, you know, you see certain young kids and you just go, wow, well, i'm gone valley now. so you know, that was my dad was seen as you lou. he's over there. all he did. he did a great stay on silicon valley. that's what, that's what nobody shows. brother dash tough football. right? everybody's on episode 3 of like 10 different shows. right now, this is the way the view and works the day. you had brian austin greene on. yeah. i think great what, what would you consider the brian have things before we ended up knowing him for getting a show like because that's. busy about is that should act thing is marcher, you know, i think of 12 years old, so that, so this is the way it works. if you become more famous in your adult life and

people almost forget any work you did when you were young. but you know, leo kind of got away with it because, you know, he became this incredible heart throb when he did titanic. but it was like, oh this is i do from growing pains though, you know, who was doing it out with tobey maguire and brian off broke it broken gilbert grape . little jim, i remember watching things i didn't know that showing, but i remember watching that who is the thing that i always loved about leo is that i know, you know, just from growing up side by side with him got on the periphery. is that he's really a character actor? no, he's, he's not, he's not a leading guy that you know is concerned about his hair. so much concerned about the nuances in their hand. motion and the, the likes to a mercy like to immerse himself in the caring. so i always feel like when a good looking guy has the advantage of really loving the crap like that all is know, stop and you know, is the greatest. there is the ultimate example. you go back and look at brand new

thing. how did a cat with that face and up having that strangle hold on the pain of the human condition? you know, i look in part number and i go further, you could all, much less reach and died in the stanley go all school. but he had that debt, so it's like you're not used to getting that dev guy that go look at, you know, you feel spoil watching them with your popcorn overall. did you have to make peace when you talked about going to college and you had begun to pack and your but you must move. i would hope you would embrace it. it was a blessing to play like if you said it better than me, you say, you know, i'm just, i'm going through the stages of life and i don't really, you know, i'm honest. i don't really feel like i fully embraced it until my daughter was born . yeah. well my daughter was born. i'm like, oh wow. okay. our school tuition is not going to be a problem and you know, it's, you know, it also, there was a pride there and i'm not even the one to introduced her to the my, my formal work. everybody else does. everybody else are the one that wants to tell

her who are daddy's. and even she went to a phase where, you know, she, she would have to, she would cry if somebody wanted completely cry. somebody want to take a picture with me. and then she would turn it to the photo barber and you know, she does, what did the different state? here's what i did there. my favorite stage was i went, i brought a tear to my where i went to the classroom and she had written, they'd all written papers, all celebrities that they admired. and she wrote a paper on me. and i didn't even know she had done that. and what i'm reading it, i really, i just about like my favorite thing about my dad is when i know he doesn't want to take pictures with someone, but he gives you a picture anyway. so put that in a paper, it just goes to show you is like again they don't, they don't listen anything. we say they watch what we do. yes. that's that's, that's a good 30 percent of parents, right? that's why your parent can be the biggest store in the world or the most every, every man and later in life. if you took a principal approach the cards that you were dealt,

your kids will never forget that every, not everybody's coming out of the box and be talking i'm not, i'm just saying why is life lead? well that, and where the and the niceties, the other kids, the adherence to the rules and also the free thinking, all mix and then got to kids made per life. and, you know, want julio, you seen the heartbreaks out there with kids. if you don't have and yet you are so it's tough to get it off the launching pad from go i job my report with her tremendously mad at they. especially my relation with her and music too much. your name, which is my son, my and you all growed up that the jobs are up in school today. she have any chops if you want to act or what's her thing. ok, so i don't have any sisters alley. and one mom that was always in my business, you ladies are going to do what they want to do. nobody's going to tell them what to do. i haven't told us why. you got

a dance. you think you're good dance. you want to try to call tick tock, know you're dan. seaports are going to get her mind. she doesn't see that you dancing. it's picked up by the way for her to now. she has a dance class this year. so i got excited about that because i'm hoping maybe the teacher will let her know how you got mo data. you know, she's got to find it on our own. i'm in no rush. i. she kind of hope if she does find arts a little towards the backend of her ation. and then that me, she got a full education. listen when you're driving or that class today for the 1st, she got a smile on her face rights. it's a big home run right off the bat. i mean, you want to happy can. yes, she's had a small vehicle. i was talking to you up is what they're you blessed enough to have your parents still, julio? yes, the parents are still and they must be so proud of your parents. they've read. they've reached the nutty stage. now they are officially nuts. my mom. all she wanted from other day was an instagram post. i'm like, mom, that's such

a wretched thing to ask for. if you don't like my pictures enough on my own. i'm really dealing with this with my mom. she puts up the strangest content i see, and i will keep it moving like it's an ex girlfriend. it's not that i it's bad, it's bad stuff, but that's a beautiful name change. it's true like you know what i mean? now it's called nuts, but that it was nice jay, but still it sounds like they're open to more magical fraudulent. i know it's, it's like we're in that everybody loves raymond portion of life. now it's, well listen, brother, you're blessed if on both sides of it, if the younger generation is happy and you still blush to have your parents, you came through. it reminds them watching a thing called a 100 foot wave, where these guys go into the tube and then they explode out at the end you had that's, you cut a big way, brothers, you exploded out of the tube and you're still stand and you're blessed man, i am,

i don't. well, and i'm a little better on for meeting you. you're good kat, i enjoy my time with you. thank you. big dog. all right, julio, white folks, let me sell the soap here. the podcast is ever after with julia, why? as i said earlier, as in happily ever after. and it sounds like a nice approach, man meeting other people who have gone on where that is the 1st act and the next act is life should be sometimes the heartbreak, the 1st act supersedes the other acts. that's not the balance, but we're exploring how you can make that work. and the podcast has been turned into a tv show adaptive streaming device service called topic t o. p. i see in the 1st episode aired august 26 july. why? thank you very much. this is denise miller plus one the ah,

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