to bring people together, so we can all be educated and not gullible. and finally, william nicole says, you need to help everyone in the course of freedom inequality, not just at home. there is poverty in scotland, but nobody shooting bullets. it costs nothing to ask how someone feels to the negative when you're angry. the people who make money out of ordinary people suffering. thanks again for your show with thanks william for writing in. now last week was johnson re shuffled his cabinet, dick. but he did so pretty comfortable pulling position with a tories ahead of the opposition as pilot moved towards her. and a surprise moved he brought and list plus as a tory party surprise. ever women, what is the critique but have us a ministerial musical to fit into the overall political landscape? last month, i'll exhausted john curtis to review the prospect, as evidenced. emmy opinion. so john comes tumbling to the state of westminster passes, look at live political parties and tell me if you are bought us johnson this note

you'd be pretty comfortable with an opinion poll lead well into this tab of parliament. county is fee up to say things are going. all right. i think there is no job the bars. johnson's to the show pretty would certainly real and most of his previous previous prime minister who was enjoying us. anything like a story position as the one, the bars johnson county, georgia because i was on average, you're around 6 or $76.00 will so points and labor in the balls, but you have to be why we all watch ash nitty 2 and a half years needed to just turn in and use our prime minister. right. so the most. com, usually by the time, again, remember, which is behind your position. polls enter that extensively, boys. johnson is in

a rescue. strong position during side despite the fact that of course, the pandemic at least until the vaccine was not handled particularly well. either you drink much and you suffered a relatively high level of morbidity and mortality fall break. i think there are few people would argue that bars, johnson is no, really a politician for a difficult time. he's a sunshine politician. are 3500 the pan to the time demick particularly easy. but of course, the crucial stable position he's got is the conservative party. these guys is essentially the party bracket devoss park of each boat council league vices. and there isn't really any competition for that leave. but since module for osh hudson, the guy reps your party now reform, you know,

speaking of very much doubtful, at least 2 sides of the boat is still saying they're going to burn the can. so that the thought the breaths, it's still structures how people are going to boat so much just the concerns of a considerable advantage. in contrast, remain, vote is still divided between the leg well to some degree than it would have cost. i did not the board r b s and p. so now the labor party is that for only picking up usually these days, somewhat less than half the remain on that for. and it's not being particularly successful despite its best endeavors. but for the most part, i'm not talking about brackson is not succeeding in regaining the abroad. it's last, i'm actually vogis. so the legacy of brett's it's rich. while bed is not in that line, he's still very heavily structuring party choice. and because on the remain side,

if i was for mantic on the east side, it's relatively concentrated. that's giving the consensus, ballast, that means it's proven very, very difficult for labor to get the can service bless the center, right. so let's look at the 2 main, westminster opposition parties. you, cale position parties, column not been labor, scarce, stomach, serious, politician knew the thought and see these times he would prosper. but that doesn't seem to be the case was one of the democrats looked like dead. the doors or perhaps products, but both labor and the little one violated success is over the summer as the sun life at the end of the tunnel for for labor little democrats. well, mister shaw was to cast off the truck is clearly a very clever lawyer. unlike all clever lawyers,

he's very good asking questions about detail. he often pettis the prime minister. prime minister questions. however, of course more clever lawyers do is to take a brief that somebody else has written, and then prosecuted by the leader of a political party. his job is to write that own brief and to present and to advocate for it and persuaded its match. i think we're still waiting to see why the success storm has the ability to develop his own brief and basically to persuade people to give them some idea what that stands for. and they might want to believe that because the truth is people are very well never bought a stone for certainly not care what other adults can service the labor party could do any better job in government. and until he comes to weaknesses,

it's going to be very difficult for him to profit from the various different please . the government is going to fight. you know, there are clearly internal deputies attentions inside the government, particularly between the primary to the chunk of ours we partner spending, review pressures on. so she can just turn to somebody, probably not going to see an export unless you care to begin to set himself and his own party. and how about the liberal democrats as a whole? does a violence can fanta a bit of hope? may be life and neil doug yet, but just, you know, mission frankly occurring just the kind of place where the over trucks and what i would want to buy an action to happen. this was a conservative help constituency. however, voted, remain in the referendum, and this was precisely the kind of constituency which in the tried to know g

direction. the conservative boat fell back out, the democrats bounced on in the circumstances by action. what would our counselor able to do? also assisted by right? no issues with h as to when planning was to engage screen labor vibes. i basically took profit from the fact that a lot of conservative traditional conservative bars that constituency. i'm not stuck in dollars off. always johnson and perhaps it but i'm not from what i got. so it was crucial because most of the prospects, most of the constituencies where they are not, not fall behind in the wake of the 20 knowing the election are indeed conservative . held the main constituencies, but there are many of them. it's a way of them have to find a new market about being able to expand upon when she policy. but it is frankly no

more than the beginning where they are at no cost. unlike labor. i think there is no reason why they should not be trying to appeal to just this is always being that traditional constituency. bernice. why, of a traditional leave out to decide except in the start of england. but frankly, i think it's when he been lost when i got to another part of the diversity to graduates, party of metropolitan london. she's very different parties from 3040 years ago. that's probably the new market. they have to do that later. signing the principles more recently that we covered our little, but again surrendered. davy, not sure. cars, magical pictures usually correspond to take off so much like 16 and these 2 years post politics to start himself and his party is wrong. finally, so john,

if i'm going to something going to come from off site in westminster, politics, i mean, what am anita of green politics, a huge summit coming up and, and glasgow. is it possible that the green party might finally make a breakthrough in the 1st past the post system and surprise us all. also something coming from elsewhere that we should be looking out for by overseer. you, scotland, as always reminds me as soon as possible may under the dash for a party to make a serious breakthrough for the 1st part, 1st post system. i like to remind people we no longer really have a british party system. we already know english well, why? because the conservative, you know, so the border was eventually cracked in 2015. the greetings do show some signs of progress. i all want to get around 5 or 6 percent. you be bringing boys. they've done breakthroughs in the positive breakthrough in the 1989

your interaction they did pretty well between 201-520-7270. saw the progress 70 saw into that tentatively able to pick up votes, one otherwise go to label. democrats for them to do well enough to start reading constituencies law. they've got one or 2 prospects, but they are quite limited. and it needs a variety of some dr. lucas, who's been able to make up writing constituents around to you to a local person to be able to read it, begins to buy bread brakes are very high to be a local popularity in order to that, to the greens korea. but so far more progress, i think about the greens are probably capable of doing damage. the opposition part is more like a breakthrough themselves, but certainly climate changes on the agenda and the greens are saying okay,

to go away. professor john cost us pulling good. extraordinary, thank you so much for joining me and nelly simon show. you're welcome. coming up past the break, alex invites to former and peace to run the rule over their ex colleagues. join us thing. oh, i use i use. i don't know. i mean, there's some steps in there who are rescuing the food that they were scabbing or, or where were rescuing resources that are still good. this is best buy march 21st, which is in 2 days. all of these potatoes hall panels, onions. all of these came from waste round sources. this is

great for me because i'm always looking for a way to give things away. dr. because the tax laws, you know, definitely do benefit the wealthier people and our society. so it makes sense for them to throw it out right off rather than give it to somebody who could use it because then that person is not going to buy it. the i choose choose

welcome back and we'll put school conferences are back. what time the politics back where they still frozen an aspect under the shadow of the pandemic. alexander legend, victoria minister, cutty and pharma labored in p. chris williamson. what to look for in best conference season. america, if i can talk to you 1st. for le, told a perspective all looks like plain failing at the present moment, hated the opinion, polls i see approach but but in real terms, i mean little shortages on the shops, the health services kneeling, collapse, even run out of carbon. don't say gas oven. it's quite a to do so well, when all these things are going wrong. wherein some of the situation i think, to margaret that she was back in the 80, which is that we don't have a majority supporting us. the opposition is split in bo say your

recall, our position was split between connex lay, but the paid and the position is between thomas labor and the grange. so we're taking a significant vote and you often find we find this in the local election up here. that if you have a constituency award where they opposition has labor and the greens fighting each other than we run per head. if one of those drops out, for example, if the green, but she dropped out as happens in the constituency where i thought that labor will be ahead and the less will be ahead. now, the problems that happen, i think, are often seen as well. they would face any government and certainly the c o $21.00 is a result of a chapter of accidents. and we're in a better position than many other countries because we have aggressive diversity of energy resources, including some of our own oil and gas. that said,

when you get close to a general election, which isn't going to happen, i think, until 2024. then every it's got to come right. because williamson, why is your old party so unable to partly landa blow on, bought us johnson, even when he puts his god. but i think there's been a failure of leadership from caste alma he, one of the leadership on the basis of building on the legacy of jeremy colbin. and unfortunately, a far from being the unity candidate is a promise to be a spent, his time naval contemplating really in terms of trying to eradicate. and he's kind of socialist elements within the labor party. and of course, is joined in this sort of bipartisan approach in relation to the coven situation and has been reluctant. it seems to criticize the, the problem minister. you know,

the big mistake that the labor party made. and it was something that i was railing about when i was still a member of the parliamentary like party. is this commitment to a 2nd referendum and they were perceived as the pro establishment party, which is rather ironic, given the record of the conservative policy in the form of bullying. the club member and the former for barrister johnson is being portrayed as a sort of anti establishment figure which he was. but my argument was that we should take the conserves his own at their own game. and we should have been arguing about last election for getting brock said don't my argument was, let's say we will get back to me and the difference is that we will deliver people for x. it's not a bankers for exit. and i think very the fall out from a still with us today, and the policies have a really recovered from the i think was it was a fatal error. but briefly for cash flow in defense of estimate isn't that a difficult for an opposition leader, a time of prod, demik crisis, a to

a man and an opposition rule when the country expects the politicians to be unified and dealing with upon damage because not difficult situation for an opposition with well, i think it was a difficult situation. i mean, the way in which the conservative government handled upon them, it was catastrophic. and there was no real criticism, a bite of the opposition bicycle storm or, or even from bench. i think that was a real mistake and the they should have been i think very, very clearly and belligerently really poor pointing out the failings of the, of the government and actually dealing with a situation in my life. remember that the death rate in britain is, is one of the highest in the world, yet with the, with a 5th biggest economy, was absolutely no justification. it seems to me, in the way in which i think the whole pandemic scenario we've dealt with by the government was really unforgettable. and that is something i think a lot of people would have looked to. and we're looking to the labor party to,

to actually point out an offer, offer an alternative, but that was something lacking. going to come because what us and mentioned breaks it, that what the tab meaning, the, the totally, didn't the opinion polls. i mean, you as a member of parliament, i remember, well as other notable unified, you're campaigning for the european union, even when it was unpopular and you're, you're part of it know you on many of those seem reconciled to breaks that mean, isn't that the, the secret of bought us johnson's opinion, bullied. i think it's very much an important part if we continue to suffer manpower shortages as we are then one of the effects of that is to push up wages. another effect, of course, is to see a scramble by employers and industrialists to invest in better equipment. and that means higher productivity that actually feeds alex through us as you know,

to much more prosperous country. i mean, we have what that me and vacancies for jobs and the, the push that's going on is to open the floodgates and that people come in from europe again. i don't think they would come back in such great numbers anyway. i think this is what's going to happens. i had a conversation this morning with a friend whose husband is a and hgtv driver, but he only works locally. he's seen this way, just got 20 percent. he's seen some of his friends wages, double. you know what? that is going to be a very interesting prospect as we get towards the end of this parliament, to have much better paid people, particularly the north of england through their own hard work and efforts and not having the cheap competition that comes from large numbers of new arrivals, i think people are going to carry on voting conservative on that basis as well. so

i watched the statement last week from the prime minister on the i'll get this right. the us asian defense part, the u. k is not entered into a failure in america. i'm what i'm starting to think was the most packing and challenging question to the prime minister came from his previous i saw a man who asked them, does this mean that you case? no. committed to the defense of taiwan against the chinese invasion and not are totally improbable prospect. why does the labor benches no longer having people who would stand up and ask about nuclear proliferation or the extent of treaty obligations of any of the key questions that an opposition should be asking under the circumstances where these people gotten williams, while many of them have been expelled or suspended, of course. and a lot of people are frightened. it seems to me to speak them minded chemist, alma's lego party. and, you know, we seeing the, you know,

the propaganda building on the anti china propaganda building that we should be seeing the opposition speaking out about and, and opposing what we should be doing for is a huge investment in our public services. we have our own sovereign currency, money is no object in this country. we have lots of spare capacity. the only kind of inflation re, oppressions that are generated is when you, when the government spends beyond or any entity in the, in the economy for that much beyond the capacity to absorb, able to see this latest nonsense. it's all cost so called is deal between australia, the okay. the u. s. is just another example. it seems to me of how out of touch are political leaders. all they're not dealing with the real issues, the real problems that are confronting everyday people. i'm afraid to say that both new labor and the certainly the conservatives say our public services is a cash cow for the private sector. and so that's what we've seen joy, this kind of crisis. and these are the sorts of issues i think,

the britain culture issues, the politicians is certainly labor politicians ought to be focusing on. and yet we seem to have this, this cozy consensus going to go into it is yet another example that nuclear proliferation is the case. the office will again, for himself to agree with the prime minister. it's a disgrace that is going to cost you how the different world view, but if the question is only 5 years since david cabin was falling over himself, the condo up to the, the chinese and of course have report a massive investment and chinese nuclear technology whitelist little tediously exporting nuclear technology to, to us trail ya, china as the, as the target. what's going on and when coming. oh, the french were very, very upset about it, not based because they had the clue. they really didn't. i didn't think about it. i'm not sure that, but sorry for them because they've lost this huge project, this enormous order for many billions of years worth of diesel powered

engines. the french, the traditional enemy. ah, and we're all cases going to do is enable them to have lots of other countries including prompts, which is nuclear power submarines. what the problem is to said last week basically was capital not true. then we got, he said, the united kingdom remains determined to defend international law, and that is a strong advice we give to our friends across the world and the strong device we give to the government in beijing and other words, regard eyes on you so long as you behave, it's all got to be fun. typed on to the conferences coming up the label going to brighten this weekend and the consensus to manchester the following weekend. because williams, i do have a conference manually that you could share with us on a protectionist. what might go right for, for kill stop. i'm not sure which is going to go right for him, although i think he might be able to drive through the,

the changes which he wants to bring to the party. i think the so many memories of party conferences stretching by 40 years in my case, but i suppose the one that really and he said to support him from my perspective was much actually change the the, or could have changed the course of history. and that was one tony, ben stood for the leadership of the labor party and, and last name by the tiniest of march is any date, have the same proportions in the electoral college being, being in place that were in place when tony black was elected leader, then tony ben would have been the deputy leader by a substantial majority and how do you been elected in the same basis to jeremy kobe was elected the leader that he would have stolen him with a probably an even bigger majority than, than jeremy achieved. but i just remember that the conference, it's from the vegetable mine memory, really. and there was

a level of disappointment because tony been had overwhelming grocery support. he was an incredible communicator. someone who was a, was a towering figure in the political world. and i think he would have been a brilliant leader. indeed, in my opinion, the best pro minutes to the britain never had a conference memory for from you, for all the, the conservative party conferences and the french events that you went to over the years as standing memory with my memory one that might cause bought us johnson pause for thought to see has he prepares to accept the agitation in manchester night 75 was the 1st party conference that margaret thatcher address. as the new leader of the opposition. i went to long and i was newly elected as a city counselor. and i heard her speech talking about how the state should be our service to not her master and that we should fight socialists and take the chris

stands for. and i find it very thrilling, very exciting. and i push in, so to speak, and debates and eventually wasn't being called eventually i went up to the speakers desk and i said, why am i not being co, an extremely nice woman call. rachel dutch looked at me and she said, because you are not important enough, diana, go away and come back when you will. and so i next went to the conference in 1981. by which time i had chad birmingham social services. i was about to chap of your housing becoming a national name. i pushed in my sip. i got to speak, i got chit to the rafters. and the next year i go to the doctor for a seat and the rest, as they say is history. it really caught a chris williamson. thank you so much for pig malik salmon show and giving us your very different but equally well informed point of view. thank you very much.

after the paint di boredom of the liberal and s n p online conferences, it's on any political journey unless you're welcome conferences moving from the virtual world to be a world. however, merely holding real conferences does not guarantee a return to the politics, and the government is still benefiting from incumbency in dealing with the national crisis of the pandemic. when i shide to his lifted the challenge with inflation, the patient, the limiting economic recovery, record tie, health service, waiting list, and empty supermarket shells may well blow the tory ship of state rapidly and substantially. of course, however, it is little saying this yet of a convincing opposition narrative from the labor party or the new up search and the liberal democrats. so the dream. given all the research, making political turbulence, captain, board, us and his new crew. i didn't expose the position of steady as you go, but for now from alex, miss l from all is good bye,

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