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a more ontologically low. there's more than intelligence, they mean anything from the divine line to the distinct human ability to apply knowledge to information about the enemy as well as the agencies. the painting is what turns information into intelligence, can intelligence be done? and what goes into sharing intelligence with your adversary of, to discuss that i'm now joined by the director of russia for an intelligence service simply and that is going to give us an error can thank you for joining us today. so let's start with the most burning show on the international agenda. yes. is draw from, can you stand summer where she can move her different assessments in the russian media ideological, political, strategic. my question for you is just was, how will this affect the methods your agency uses and the priorities you said in this regionally chip that i bought the luscious blue with them to join motion.

first of all, i should say that the foreign intelligence service has always had a special focus on i've got this done and he's been me as he had said that because of it was strategic location tranny. you or she lou as well as potential and actual terrorist threats coming from that country? she is a jeweler, is still doing goodness done. no of them still was clear after the us and its allies invaded afghanistan, the territory of the stanley, the prevalent thinking of the international community has been that the americans had everything under control and was that yeah. and began, since she was, situation was getting better. e principles. the us and nato military present had been viewed as a solid and barrier to the terrorist threat that didn't allow it to spread further

into eurasia. each of the rosy navies, actually you receive for us transfer. so then you unfortunately knew that that wasn't true. mostly with a voice plus the mixed guns of the americans withdrew, ease of use, done, and fled from afghanistan was received. and we now see the ruins. they left behind a devastated economy war as will terrorists roaming free, all roast deepening conflicts between different ethnic grad. none of her extra was w, amanda increased drug and gun trafficking. what you could eat contrib monday at ocean . now what do you think it will be harder for you to walk there now? was that you yet? so glad you get that was to put sure commute reassuring to save all of the regional powers in the area of the issue don't door

nobody's concern with normalizing situation in afghanistan. so as soon as you stand, you know, should. so we can pick 10, c, shift again, that new rough in relation countries as the get china in india. can i get done? iran and of course russia, i see e wedding this respect. but she was, it's very important for intelligence agencies to work together. but you can nally those ones because as i can tell you right now, we partner with practically all the countries that i named our needs that are in constant contact with colleagues within the intelligence community. but newer sky look, smashing me, polygamy says you're doing, just let me just that's why i missed both. i love that to me now onto a half ago i had an opportunity to talk. somebody tries to make

a motion with that. that's not just cost a lot of ganeth. she just sent eurasia somewhere in the battle for inflow and all the seattle lenient on prevalence, old notion is getting a new meaning. now some countries like rushing shy and have been able to balance their injuries. it's very as soon as they're asked for finding the issue acceptable approach and she knows what they think are the regional players will be able to do the same. got comcast, china and russia. awesome. she's your partner schools. yeah. what about india and pakistan? just, i'm a very different story thing to figure iran. turkey in g book is stung down section to get the machine. yeah. iran food sent me when you mentioned is big. nobody's in ski, genes correct yet. well, my thought of another thing he said in one of his interview was to review the message. i think it was back in the late 1991 because of the store. he mentioned a memo, he wrote to president counter done on,

on that day that the soviet troops entered a gun as done finishing the slow and red. but we now have the opportunity of giving to the ussr was more its own vietnam war of you substitute. but he was glad, and i think americans have ended up in that trap with level school. ah, he suggest. and now the future of the country sued by in the hands of the gun. a people 1st and foremost can use some you have guns. ah, but like i said, her what kills just because of it in the best interests of all regional dial as to see the be peaceful and stable development of the gunners done, sir, because we want to hear the voice of the gunny people as soon as possible beulah up just the taliban and at more than 3, it was that all the other ethnic groups as well. he got to tell you before which

they need to do. do you need just give rope your coin, galleries, active dialogue between the countries in this region. your know, when you at the or someone and i didn't care if you, with the shanghai cooperation organization being the best platform for the talk to you a few days ago that to champagne hosted a joint c o and c s t o summit attended by the leaders of all the member states and of course i've got to start was one of the issues the summit focused on thing and look at the yellow go can, you know, we naturally, you will have to include western countries in that dialogue as well with which number glad i do think that that participation will make sense or they have to realize that it's because of their actions doesn't ex gunners done suffered significant losses. but judy,

what is their responsibility to provide financial assistance so that the country can rebuild its normal life and stability security and she's new, a lot of pressure wash of czar's part of west virginia. yes. of lucky profession. failing to come up or that if it assessment of how situations my developer according to their reports, some kindness on government was supposed to be in control. 4369. and as a professional intelligence officer to say they're real and this may be american colleagues such as being scape, go back, no rush committee against you. got that? yes, nation. i wouldn't want to be in the shoes of our colleagues from the central intelligence agency right now. and the dealer you but it's not about them. or rather, it's not just about them control him because he had been traveling you jill,

if tom, everything that happened and i've got a lot of good news, tiny. 3 ether, queen, mary rushed withdraw you and the fleeing of the hop. if government, when you turn it on, a consequence of what america's destructive policy is by you to see new stuff. if i muted k, e are leaning with the crap because it tried to own social development model on the country of afghanistan. what do you know about the there are many guilty parties in this situation. what you see, i have to make it simple. i love the new problem yet. can you see me just about what aim should be shared by the document of defense, mandatory intelligence agencies, west apartment of state, and the office of the national security advisor because our past needs to know, but again, i have some time that i ca, he just is

a part of the larger mechanism for shares, the blame usually menu, not phantom. but i'm also convinced that the u. s. leadership had all the intelligence about the situation on the ground. and if you band about potential developments, when you're done, you got more because you submitted. and you didn't take into account one thing and actually their own capabilities. and you didn't want to face the truth if you will . the smoking is if you had to to provide you valesa. the truth is the u. s. is no longer capable of playing the role of global hagaman to yet move the role which had had assigned to itself. since we took a white glove. while noah give me one, wasn't at the gym walk across. question about i think it is for us discussing the

current international polish subject defined but the american political leadership might have in recent week by the president biden has been saying that domestic security is a priority and it is more important than exports and engine clarity. there's only i got that from here cuz sometimes it feels like for my staff, members of the russian president's office are, i'm on his speech slide to present that. i've got some ideas, a very similar to our security doctrine, just because of wisdom that i see the premium be that us missed. which states that security inside the country is the most important goal. strongly what we number's got to think, i think now let's see if we can predict. did they really mean it or is adjusted rhetorical excuse which the word can we expect a less in conventional s g s policy in the near future fitting? unfortunately, perspective science means interview. santa scapes coming back, nebraska would say,

let's take some statements by the president of the united states of america and others in his office. and that seems to be the maiden reaction to the disgraceful abandonment of afghanistan as an extra is of been done. hutcher, however, i miss lottery knows what to do, carry their own weight slower. if you talk about something fall long enough, that only tends to program everybody's thinking in a certain way or with the printer to my certain principals. well, yes, the speak up programs himself and also to some extent truck shapes the reality and will play or will themes. but we also know that what the leader of the united states says what he actually does. not always the same thing. yes. but already witnessing new aggressive plans being develop. thank you. patching blum's, smuggler sharp to us is trying to retain control over the territory while testing

its presence in the central asian countries. restaurants to be city by you see from the central me to pierce federal law to take the recent initiative to form another strategic alliance between the united states that you like the u. k . a young and australia. younger stuff. if you will, you can be danny, need a strangely. what's that about it? so time will tell been published. not that we have to be vigilant, not pay the wing. and i have often said, said moscow considers the k a partner agency. what then to find the partnership? how do you personal assess reasonable limits of trusts? michelle assistance for caution woman, she eve federalism. as soon as you can, the developments in the modern day international relations generate

a lot of new risks. easiest disks. the risks that we never seen before. sna calls for cooperation between security agencies and intelligence services. but at the more me, which is why we maintain broad ties with virtually every intelligence service in the world, including the c i. since the euro, sumptuously use syndrome as the other, which i'm probably at the country said i'd be highly washed upfront for after that the nature and level of our relations with the cia and the f. b. i was very different, vastly different from our co operation with the respective agencies of the c s t o . that's the collective security treaty organization. and for the sake of the commonwealth of independent states or china and india. again,

a level and nature of relations are different, not water to data, can trust and talent and data from a state that ultimately used our country as an adverse area. and i disrupt to flay our recent direct quotes from the latest annual strength assessment for the intelligence, the growth of the way the same document was chair. reason as the less stress than russia born in these good jo, my cousin rosa, blue star name. you know, i've said this many times, we know that again, we genuinely value the cooperation. we have with partners from the central intelligence agency when it comes to fighting global terrorism. the future terrorists activities are a real and present threat and the work we do together to combat it. just beneficial to both countries. you said you personally believe that the changing international situation is you still become the recent developments enough canister. you should

see the media if don't you see a passenger news provide? are american partners there you go to opportunity, but it's a reassess that current threat rankings. yes. me see you. she said you would eat him. ross, growth or phrases are priority and they did not. i should not do monthly. they will one day realize that the terrorist threat and each school was a monitor now a truly global problem and what was the lenient that me me and once they do the renewal, well then now we can all go back to having a constructive a good and mutually beneficial interaction. you guys can, but you are to me. we have to take a very short break now, but we'll be back in just a few moments fetch and me

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always justify the means she's when defending one homeland. a proud of the woods, sean, not just as divisions as we get one in foreign intelligence. but the maxim, the ends justify the means doesn't always apply. you know, isn't a history for an example of where you spin yet the what the study and the latter part of the 1930 is kind of those you and that was a sense of massive conflict looming on the horizon. you vision that nazi germany was building up its military could get a minute. soviet political leadership. well, it needed in tell about plans and intentions. you said one of those sources was a very marked general keeping it all in fact, he had the information and he also had had because the particular weakness years now for the native proceedings of global finance rather than

yes, your plan will develop and blunt rather you bunny assignment is entrusted to a very experienced by handle beautiful women of c. b. as in class you venture, you 01 of us, chris, since guy are and cannot. and i was not going, she studied the assignment and said that, then you will take on the missions i will and i'll get the intel. but after it's done, i'll shoot myself in the head. just listen to her and modify the assignment. smith, lumber, just minion. eventually the soviet leadership did receive the intel dub with the stuff in the little guy was just run the so you one the and we're gonna continue to serve country and region you today, she is recognized as one of russia's most legendary spies as each go down the which

is now again, they can have new technologies. i'm sure you know that. and i know western media, russia foreign intelligence service is often mentioned in connection with the hot bath. it's alice, you have denied in your connection multiple times when you're in today's level of fiber technology. so they start to have a cyber warfare for your see with both food defense and of how much in the action or comcast. do you think the international community will, at some point we're willing to recognize the exist use of these for more than introduce certain strain. you could keep that like with nuclear weapons. when you're putting the schedule, she'll worst talks about the solar wind. cyber attacks has been attributed to our intelligence services companion, solar install. it is the lenient do this. now, i feel like asians are groundless in my interview with bloody met, a set of id,

excited me publicly available information from the hearings that took place early this year. into special committees of the u. s. congress. that if american from the par as the committee on intelligence and the homeland security committee, gantski companion city, and these leading us companies in the area of cyber security and cyber offensives, like microsoft crowds striking ira. he stated the after investigation that took months or get near them. that was a big production situation. you could give me just a roughly when you're doing syngenta new glove industry. i had no evidence pointing to any state being responsible for you, but was dusted for the bomb. i don't, i agree with, you know, the strategic reinforcement of security in this to know, can you just have to monitor all developments in this domain to mean you love?

now it's that we can't let ourselves fall behind, was more, and we must be able to insure national security that on the and that includes cybersecurity with nature. as you probably know that russia has been active across multiple international platforms. we're trying to establish a global system of information. security. deposit is not opening from suddenly because our past due for the 2nd i'm said you can see our partners building up their own offensive cyber capabilities. we need to punch in the, in the put them so got new in the us and nato members type so i can assure the viewers and the listeners of this program is a vintage that russia can be and will guarantee information security. yes. hi, jill aisha presage was i would also like to ask you about a home have that for media often present?

connected to the russian intelligent and i'm talking about the so called havana syndrome, but she had to so symptoms can include headache of hearing and balance was role as long term brain damage. i me to cause that us servicemen until thomas have allegedly been diagnosed with war. it can roll out. she had to leave a weapon that could cause this was, might exist from a technical perspective wash. so have any of your staff experienced and as to melissa or healthy, she knew you do good, you know, well, you know, yeah. you know, when i 1st started working and this failed, who it was with soviet scientific and technical intelligence and as you see with so i took an interest in those kinds of things and probably, and you, me notion, if you're doing news now, i know that it even back to that, unless you read me in the west, was actively researching how different electromagnetic waves and oscillations might affect the human brain. can. the binding to luggage is key was some concluding

whether or not they might have a tentatively help control, a human mind taking load influence behavior or what's your question about whether or not any russian foreign intelligence office isn't really wellness, which you have experienced, anything like that in any country with music and as you have kid i smell the way really answer is either, but we definitely know how curious about the subject of technological advance. i want to ask you about your position on the origin of ours because you school with you fed on the number of occasions you believe that the virus could naturally just an image. but more and more of your counterparts, you would just call a western counterparts. and lots of this up skeptical is biting over the gym with sales, which is i'm, i just think that is how do you change just song centers in the last few months

machine you prescribe though as a possibly you can, you know, snowing our service virus behavior in a very, a typical way, leisure mind if she has never encountered anything like it before, she can look at how many people have died, how badly they came in. there was some damage been more devastating than the actual world. so many people have been a boy in the family, which i'm going to just know, well, 1st of all, i really must say that it's only scientists actually you could the all micro ballasts fire ologist would who will be able to give us up your final answer to that question, but that's in a g i can show and working on it, but it's trying to determine the truth on the phone with that, you know, just recently in the, after every minute that the last year. so the u. s. intelligence published the report on it was the lot and it contained just very vague and uneven st.

politicized assessment. you know, when the, i think you stick in your sna, this is unusual for intelligence agencies that also logs right on professionals. and yet she has, and i think that's the reason behind with this crisis that us intelligence and finds itself myatt, and which date and because of the attempts to politicize its activities with the bathing. we expect the theory that it's of natural origin will hear you, and that is one corresponds with you what? most research as a thinking oceans or at the store, at the nearest spirit you nourish? well, i have a him in a class. you're welcome. hi, john. i would like to ask you about a fairly unusual type of your office design post in, namely for historical intelligence stuff. i know you have specialist who does for

and study document with can with the chain. the command in the sense that you get information with and make conclusions that ends up in the hands of the head so that the leadership can make decisions based on them. that's exactly new to showing. well, just so and then what is the opinion? i think what you're talking about is mainly all of those documents that we have in abundance in our archives you. if you move, we do study those archive. i thoroughly hope in the pigment. you know, we try to find and declassify any documents. my chad tom validus event or on that you need is submit your process, you know, we have unfilled and gone on to publish. pay that the police see a very great many documents of p thinking from the period way in the one of the pre world war period was the one the post world war 2 time to the video this time,

possibly the 1900 thirty's. so 19 forties and even the 1950s maybe left the most controversial shirts for debates over the causes of world war to the war itself. and the aftermath never. we have caught up now helping historians prove the truth that we believe in because they documents are a big help in that problem that they're interested because he is the community adult. so give me a holler if you thank you for time. best of luck. this is no matter way your professional pursuits take you. i thank you for taking an interest in the russian foreign intelligence service and thank you for watching hope hope to see you again next week on was apart from me. the

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