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to national agenda, the yes is draw from, can you start a new summer where she can move her different assessments in the russian media idea logical, political, strategic. my question for you is just was how will this affect the methods your agency uses and the priorities you said in this regionally ship that i bought the luscious blue with them going motion? first of all, i should say the, the foreign intelligence service, and he has always had a special focus on afghanistan and me as he had key skills that because of it was strategic location tranny you or she little as well as potential and actual terrorist threats coming from that country, she is a dealer. is cindy to goodness done. you know, some stock, ah parsley after the us and its allies invaded afghanistan, the territory of stanley. the prevalent thinking of the international community has
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been that the americans had everything under control and was that, yeah. and the counsel she was, situation was getting better in place was the us and nato military presence at the, you know, it's been viewed as a solid and barrier to the terrorist threat. didn't allow it to spread further into eurasia, each of the rosy novice. actually, you care for us trans, the venue unfortunately knew that that wasn't true. possibly we were the voice plus the mixed. i mean you can use the americans withdrew, ease of use, done and fled from afghanistan. was this guy, and we now see the ruins. they left behind a devastated economy war as will terrorism, roaming free, all the roast deepening conflicts between different ethnic granite and her acura was w. amanda, increased drug and gun trafficking. what you could eat contrib wonder at all she
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good. now what do you think it will be harder for you to walk there now? was that you yet? so i think where you get the picture commute, it's reassuring you to say that all of the regional powers in the area of the issue don't door nobody's concern with normalizing situation in afghanistan. that's when you stand, you know. sure. so we should compete, then see shift again, that new rough relation countries as you get dinah in india, don and ron and of course, russia, i, c e. well, in this respect, but she was very important for intelligence agencies to work together. gonnelli those ones because as i can tell you right now, we partner with practically all the countries that i named our needs that are in constant contact with colleagues within the intelligence community. but your sky
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look, smashing me polygamy. so as you're doing, just let me just that's why i missed both. i love that to me on to a half ago, i had an opportunity to talk to somebody tries to make a motion with that. that's not just cost a lot of ganeth. she just sent out of your asia somewhere in the battle for infra leon, you won't be old notion is getting a new meaning. now some countries like rushing shy and had been able to balance their interest, synchronize their ass for the finding. the issue except simple approach and she knows what to think ought to regional players will be able to do the same. got comcast, china and russia are strategic partners of school. yeah. what about india and pakistan? i'm a very different story is to figure iran. turkey in the book is stung down section to get the machine. yeah. iran booth and me when you mentions big new brzezinski
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genes? correct? yup. well, my thought of another thing he said in one of his interview was to review the message. i think it was back in the late 1991 scarlet store. he mentioned a memo, he wrote to president counter done on, on the day that the soviet troops entered a gun. stone physician is slow and he read. but we now have the opportunity that the love giving to the ussr was more its own. the vietnam war of you substantive you but yes, he was glad and i think americans have ended up in that trap with level school. he suggest now the future of the country sued by you is in the hands of the gun. a people 1st and foremost from you have guns. ah, but like i said, well, you can sell it in the best interests of all regional dial as to see the see here
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be peaceful and stable. development of afghan has done, sir, because we want to hear the voice of the gunny people as soon as possible. we'll adjust the taliban and at more than 3 it was that all the other ethnic groups as well. you don't get valuable from which they need to do. do you need to skip the group? you're active dialogue between the countries in this region during the when you do it the or some, i know you don't care if you with the shanghai cooperation organization being the best platform for the talks to few days ago. you know, as that goes on being hosted a joint s e o and c s t o summit, attended by the leaders of all the member states. you might, of course, i've kind of done, was one of the issues the summit focused on and look at me jello gon, you're not going naturally. you will have to include western countries in that
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dialogue as well. with which number? glad i do think that that participation will make sense though they have to realize that it's because of their actions doesn't ex gunners done suffered significant losses by judy what e and it's their responsibility to provide financial assistance so that the country can rebuild its normal life and stability security, and she's new, a puzzle to russia, pressure wash of czar's west of succession the yes of lackey professionally failing to come up or that if you know how to taishan my developer according to their reports of new stuff, kindness government was supposed to be in control for at least 69, and as a professional intelligence officer to say they're really made the american colleagues such as games. keep going back. no rush for me to come. you got it?
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yes, no, i wouldn't want to be in the shoes of our colleagues from the central intelligence agency right now and the dealer. you, but it's not about them. or rather, it's not just about them and tell him, but as you had been traveling you, jill, if tom shed everything that happened in africa studies, i slow goodness, tiny. 3 either very rushed withdraw. you and the fleeing of the hop, if government ready to when you stand it on a consequence of one of america's destructive policies by e t. c noon. if that if immunity k. e are leaning with the crap because it tried to hang its own social development model of the country of afghanistan. what do you know about the there are many guilty parties in this situation. what you see, i think it's entirely new prevalent yet. can you see me just about lame should be
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shared by the defense mandatory intelligence agencies, a pay us department of state and the office of the national security advisor because our bus needs to know. but again, some time the cia, it's just, it is a part of the larger mechanism as well, or share the blame. usually menu, not phantom. but i'm also convinced that the u. s. leadership had all the intelligence about the situation on the ground and nephew banned about potential developments. when you're done, you got more because you submitted. and you know, i didn't take into account one thing. i'm actually their own capabilities. and you didn't want to face the truth if you will. the smith, if you said to, to provide you valesa. the truth is the u. s. is no longer
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capable of playing the role of global hagaman to yet to the role which had had assigned to itself. since we took a white glove, belinda, give me 11 and let the child walk across the question or by i think it is for us discussing the current international polish subjects well defined. but the american political leadership mind in recent week by the president biden has been saying that domestic security is priority, i think is more important than next friday. and you see that there's only now that there's yeah, sometimes it feels like for my staff members of the russian president's office are i'm on his speech slide to present that. i saw my d as a very similar to our security doctrine, just because of wisdom that i see that's pretty new because up got out of the states security and said the country is the most important goal. strongly what we numbers got to think with my faith now. see if we can predict, did they really mean it or is it just your rhetorical excuse for the word?
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can we expect a less in conventional s g s policy in the near future cities? unfortunately, perspective science means interview sang scripts because i'm back near the school. i would say that they some statements by the president of the united states of america and others in his office. and that seems to be up in maiden reaction to the disgraceful abandonment of afghanistan as of no use of being done had yeah, whether i'm you slept in those words, do carry their own weight slower. if you talk about something fall long enough, that only tends to program everybody's thinking in a certain way with tomorrow's certain principles. well, yes. speak programs himself and also to some extent shapes the reality and nobody will themes. but we also know that what the leader of the united states says what
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he actually does not always the same thing. yes. we're already witnessing new aggressive plans being developed over. thank you so much and blood and it's not going to shop us as trying to retain control over the territory by dusting its presence in the central asian countries. restaurants don't be so you'd see from the central ne periods. so take the recent initiative to form another strategic alliance between the united states like the u. k. l young and australia. younger stuff, if you really could be danny, me, a strategy. what's that about it? so time will tell bennett, but gosh, not that we have to be vigilant, not pay the wing. i have often said that moscow considered as a boy, a pot nation teacher then defines a partnership. how do
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a personal assess reasonable limits of trusts? michelle assistance for caution woman she, eve pharaohs, missed to as you can, the developments in the modern day international relations generate a lot of new risks. easiest. these the risks that we've never seen before. sna calls for cooperation between security agencies and intelligence services. but at the more me, which is why we maintain broad ties with new, virtually every intelligence service in the world, including the c i. since when the mirror sumptuously use some random as the other, some promising attention said i'd be highly washed upfront hierarchy of the nature and level of our relations with the cia and the f. b. i was very different,
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vastly different from our co operation with the respective agencies of the c s t o . that's the collective security treaty organization. and for the sake of the commonwealth of independent states or china and india. again, a level and nature of relations are different, not water to do it. can you trust intelligence data from a state that ultimately used our country as an adverse area? i disrupt to flay our body scientific quotes from the latest annual spread assessment. the intelligent, if you saw the growth of either way the same document was chair, reason as a less stress than russia born in these good, jo, my cousin was at the start aim at us. you know, i've said this many times. we said again, we genuinely value the cooperation. we have with partners from the central intelligence agency when it comes to fighting global terrorism,
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disputing the terrorist activities are a real and present threat and the work we do together to combat it is beneficial to both countries. and you said, you know, i personally believe that the changing international situation is you still become the recent developments enough canister you plus the media. if we're bustling news, all they provide are american partners. there you go to opportunity, but to reassess the current threat. rankings did yes. mislead me. she said the jim ross, growth or phrase priority is never know they did not. i should not do monthly. they will one day realize that the terrorist threat and each school was a monitor. now a truly global problem was the lenient that me me and once they do the renewal, well then now we can go back to having a constructive, a good and mutually beneficial interaction. because, but new to me we have to take
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the me a welcome back to wells far as best again, can been director of russia foreign intelligence service. we'll give it a bit over a month or so we address, i've a stress, i want to ask you a question about the teach. give us the way from your interview. we often talk about things in moral or even while intelligence and counting. tell engineer professionals no overly sentimental. have some kind of an own of hold you or do it ends always justify the means she's when defending one homeland a private would sean death provisions as he had to get one in foreign intelligence . but the maxim, the ends justify the means doesn't always apply linear. there's no history
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for an example, a look up where you spin yet know what was done in the latter part of the 1930s of those one. there was a sense of massive conflict looming on the horizon vision that nazi germany was building up. its military could get a minute that a soviet political leadership were well, it needed in tell about plans and intentions. you said one of those sort is, was a very marked general get. i'll get him in front of he had the information and he also had had because particular weakness years, not a days proceedings of football finance rather than yes, your plan will develop. and blunt daniel on the assignment is entrusted to a very experienced by handle beautiful women of breath, and christ drenching the wonder of us christians,
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guy or him can. and there's not going, she's studied the assignment and said, i will take on the mission and i'll get the intel. but afterwards done, i'll shoot myself in the head, pulling this up, listen to her and modified the assignment, smith, randall just minion. eventually the soviet leadership did receive the intel dub with the sub in the little guy was just on the so you won the and we're going to continue to serve the country. and wouldn't you today, she is recognized as one of russia's most legendary spies. as each go down the work, you know, again, think of new technologies. i'm sure you know that, and i know western media, russia foreign intelligence service is often mentioned in connection with the hot bath. it's allison, have denied in your connection multiple times when you have today's level of fiber technology. so for us to have a cyber warfare for your c,
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we're both for defense and much of a hot auction or comcast. do you think the international community will, at some point, you're willing to recognize the exist use of these for some more than introduced strain, you could keep that like live nuclear web design. you're pretty near caution. yeah . you know, we're still thinking about the solar wind cyber attacks has been attributed to our intelligence service companion, solar install. it is the lenient you know, i feel like asians are groundless in my interview with the medicine of not id, excited me publicly available information from the hearings that took place early this year into special committees of the u. s. congress. that if immunity from the bar as the committee on television and the homeland security committee, gantski companion city and these leading us companies in the area of cyber security
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and cyber offensives, like microsoft kind of crowd striking ira. he stated the after investigation that took months or get near them. the was a big production situation. you could give mister russell edwin. you suggested new gloves. still you still have no evidence pointing to any stately being responsible for you. but what mister dustin found, the bomb, i don't agree that students can, you know, the strategically important security on your mattress. you have to monitor all developments in this domain has to mean, you know, it's that we can't let ourselves fall behind was more and we must be able to insure a national security that on the and that includes cybersecurity with nature as you
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probably know that russia has been active across multiple international platforms. we're trying to establish a global system of information security. deposit is narrowed need from suddenly because our past and defect, i'm just, i'm said you can see our partners building up their own offensive cyber capabilities. we need to punch in the get them. so got things in the us and nato member states will go and i can assure the viewers and the listeners of this program is a vintage that russia can be and will guarantee information security. yeah, behavioral issues. presage was, i would also like to ask about the hope of that for media often present, connected to the version of halogens. i'm talking about the so called have honest intro much you to choose to symptoms, chemical, a headache of hearing and balance was role as long term brain damage. i me to cause that yes servicemen and took time off. have allegedly been diagnosed with war. it
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cannot roll out to leave a weapon that could cause this might exist from a technical perspective washes up. have any of your staff experience and assimilation or health issues you you do give me a net you well, you know? yeah, i need to know when i 1st started working and this failed as it was with soviet scientific and technical intelligence. and as she went so i took an interest in those kinds of things and probably, and human notion if you see doing use now, i know that even back then last year with me in the west was actively researching how different electromagnetic waves and oscillations might affect the human brain can you by noon just sky was some concluding whether or not they might attentively help control a human mind to love influence behavior or what's your question about whether or not any russian foreign intelligence office isn't really wellness, which is i've experienced anything like that in any country with me as you have kid
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i smell the way really answer is either, but we definitely know neutral. how curious about the subject of no jackal advance. i want to ask you about your position on the origin of ours. call he school. you said on the number of occasions usually that the virus to could natural and he's just an empty. but more and more of your counterparts you would just call western counterparts. and lots of this up in color, nicky and skeptical says and fight them over the and she understands richard i'm, i just got a change just thomson in the last few months machine, you know the past, maybe you can, you know, snowing out so this virus behave in a very, a typical way, leisure mind, if she has never encountered anything like, could be form, should picture and look at how many people died, how badly they came to me was. we can damage more devastating than actual wars. so
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many people have been affected by members of the family, which i'm going to just know. well, 1st of all, i really must say that it's only 2 scientists to and me. you could be all micro biologists your fire ologist would who will be able to give us a final answer to that question without a t i can show and working on it. but it's trying to determine the truth on the phone with that you just recently fashion to really mean that the last year. so the u. s. intelligence published the report on it was the lot and it contained just very vague. and even st. politicized assessment, you know, when the same kid stuck in your snow. this is unusual for intelligence agencies that also logs on professionals. and yet the she has. and i think that's the reason
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behind with this crisis that us intelligence finds itself, myatt and, you know, which date and the cause of the attempt to politicize it's activity is worth the paper. we stick to the theory that it's of natural origin will. yes, he and that is, one corresponds with you what? most research as a thinking ocean. so the store at the nearest cognition. spirit you nourish? well i have a few minutes last hotel and i would like to ask you about a fairly unusual task. your offices. i involved in, namely for historical intelligence stuff i know you have specialist such for and study document with can with a genius, the man in the sense that you get information with and make conclusions that ends up in the hands of the head of your faith. so that the leadership can make decisions based on that. that's exactly new to showing. well, just that and then of what she's shipping. i think what you're talking about is
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mainly all of those documents that we have in abundance in our archives you. if you move, we do study those archive. i thoroughly hope in the me at the we try to find and declassify any documents. my tom validus event or on that you need is submit your process. you know, i mean we have unfilled and gone on to publish it bleached and you have very great many documents of dating from the period in the of the pre world war period. mostly. well, on the and post world war 2 time to the video as time passed, the 1900 thirty's. so 19 forties and even the 1950s may be left the most controversial shirts for debates over the causes at world war to the war itself. and the aftermath and we, of course, up now helping historians prove the truth that we believe in because they documents
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are a big help in that problem. that are interesting because we, he, in the community adult, she gave one the best seller. if you thank you for time, best of luck. this is no matter where your professional pursuits take you. i thank you for taking an interest in the russian foreign intelligence service and thank you for watching hope hope to see you again next week on worlds apart from me. the me oh, i do
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so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy going from station let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time. time to sit down and talk look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except when the shorter the conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. the point obviously is to create truck rather than fear i would take on various jobs with the artificial intelligence. real summoning the theme in
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