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ah ah hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered on funeral, about many countries in the western world are grappling with such issues as illegal immigration and energy insecurity on remarkably, there is always a single root cause, a party to blame. and that is russia also, rand steps out on the world stage in a big way ending its isolation. me to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, marcus, about the ductless in london is a historian, analyst and author of the book arrives. we'll see a return of russia to world politics. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bob . she is a political analyst and editor in me, internet media project,

or gentleman, cross up rules and effect. that means you can jump at anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's start out with marcus marcus. let me read you a few headlines here from cnbc, ukraine. now, now they've got video accuses rush of using gas as the geopolitical weapon. as energy prices deepens, very ominous. there. this is from the scotsman gas price prices with russia. vladimir putin in control of the bow importing supplies was always high risk. and we go over to bloomberg here, nor string to pipeline news. ukraine worries less about gas, more about war. again, this whole story with energy insecurity in europe, which i believe there is because there was a massive cut in, in demand during the height of the pandemic. and then when things started returning, there was a higher demand. so there wasn't as much gas being put into storage that we have winter coming up. has absolutely nothing to do with the rush. but so ever but all

of entered europe, energy both or somehow brushes when they were when the united states was against nor dream do the, would actually increase the amount of natural gas into the european union. what is new world is going on here? well, i will start the survey historical actuality, namely, bad relations between the west and russia. over many centuries have been characterized by the mutual suspicion and loop. and what distinguishes relations between the west and russia now is today. western allegations against russia are absolutely farcical. so 1st of all, western mainstream major is giving coverage and credence to polish claims. the migration crisis plague in europe is as a result of russia and bennett,

russia sending migrants into year through poland. well, since when has poland been the entry point into europe for refugees? all circle refugees and immigrants. the truth of the matter is that the west, the stabilisation of no fact for the mid to waste, specifically libya and syria is what does cause the migration crisis. then we have british government claims. i'm british mainstream major claims that the energy crisis lumina over britain, is as a result of the kremlin. well, britain, it should not have relies, so the extensive, it's on liquefied natural gas. and instead of hurling abuse and all full accusations against russia, the british governments should have put politics aside and should have sat down with the russians and should have come to an agreement like the german government

states, specifically on referring to north stream. so, because unlike for britain, germany now enjoys an uninterrupted flow of natural gas from russia, that is good german industry, that is good for german domestic households. i should say, peter, that is imperative. german industry and german domestic households. if the british states could truly cared for its citizens and i said they would have put politics aside and it would offend, shows an uninterrupted flow of russian natural gas, which would have been imperative for the british economy and imperative for british domestic households. but instead, an energy crisis is lumen, but naturally has nothing to do with the british states. no, it can only be the fault of, of course, the, based from the east, russia did hammer. this was the base of bass. and reality is that the north stream

to was something that the germans wanted something that, but the russians didn't from both america, they could be more specific gas from. and so now we have the b, b eventually ality in the matter of weeks, if the regular service that we are an abundance of natural gas in, in the european union, it makes it all the way to a different story. but i mean, of the politicizing this year when it's purely an economic commercial issue here. i've always been mystified by, you know, where with bottom control of the bow. well, it's gas brown wants to make money by selling a product. there is customers that will have a demand for that product. i don't understand why this has to be over. what advises marcus is pointed out, go ahead. well, i mean, the whole energy crisis in europe can be resolved involved. they all know that's in one hour. if they just see by going to read just not strong enough steam do

tomorrow, or i'm going to register in december, they set a date next hour. the prices will go down because the markets, you know, the markets are reactant to. i'm so the future, i mean they don't know what a still seem to they still don't. no. and the problem is not ethnic when there's no, it's ideological. i mean, there are germans. some germans of polls north seem to, you know, to me, you know, the green party, they read the on the left, the other than a variable. all the list said i want the job steward ross, you know, in the budgets. i don't want this job to be ever, ever used technically at north gym to is ray. do you know the golf pro announced that was ready to start bumping the gaze on the 1st of october. so the problem is no technical if, if i get a hold you call and i would partially agree with what marcus said about the russia escalations all him,

but logan is mostly on the west side. on the russian side. maybe there will some bullshit, early decades on the service union because we wanted to remake europe. now, at least, you know, you know, you're in all my years and i haven't lived in russia all my life few years. i've never, i've never called the kid just sadness dives. well, i mean the optimal cup of the limping games, but you will not see them, but you could not show the flag even the most blank optimistic people i've seen. oh, look, this is not to be, you know, this is really get out of hand because his job, yes, but the general russian culture and easy european country and one so much to be where the europe. but all the problem is that europe sound was just roles map and talking about the migration program, the market. so just mentioned basically there were rumors,

the blue question go would use migrant back in the late ninety's. i mean, i read the border so i, i asked my readers to they read the frost magazine, read the news from the early to thousands late night just they have been suspected shinkel try to do that. you know, she didn't do that, but they suspected him and 20 years later, something like that happened. but when off the european boast, unprecedented sanctions on billers against the industry, against the enterprise, extract elio, him and there was so, i mean, what do you expect the problem is that the, the west right now, the government and the media, they use the creek not to sexually use very often they mix 40 to some morals, like if you want to dig the sanctions off. beller, bella, russia, because that's basically bill, which is

a translation that was wide russia into bill language. so if you, if you say i'm against the sanctions imposed, you're in a moral person. you're not suggesting a political solution. you are a traitor. you are in cahoots with lucas angle. this is the same way the knobs. and if you are both of conquest, you're just major political statement. journal, opposing, shoot. what you are you laurel, you know, you don't know. the interesting thing is lisa, but when look at them and bought them and they met and they were asking him, i'm directing this tomorrow because they were asking me about the immigration policy. and he said, well, why don't you ask? it has nothing to do with right there was the webber, but in the, in the mainstream. it is somehow russians in cahoots with glucose to release immigrants into the european union, which by the way of colon in the baltic states, thinking about barriers and wall. i guess those barriers and walls are ok,

but not at the american southern border, but i digress. go ahead. well, i think pizza, banner, russia is under the spotlight now in the west because the west attempted to embellish russia last summer, failed, and it was always going to fail and fail abysmally. and as a result of that failure, the integration process between moscow and mints has received that as received a much needed emphasis just so much so that the re unification of russia. russia is very much something that is going to happen sooner rather than later. so the west is fine to stop. that's why they try to stop that. because of course, bella, russia bowed as on to poland and nice. so is a poland. ne, so, is beef and up its presence in poland, which i so that is

a flagrant violation of the russia. russia found an act of $997.00. but in regard to the foster co allegations of the west is made against russia. it's very clear that the west has never felt so emboldened before in that it makes allegations which have no substance to it whatsoever. and we have to ask the question, why do they feel so emboldened and i put it to you? the reason is that people in america and in britain no longer think independently or critically, they simply have this intrinsic, this absolute trust in what their politicians and journalists tell them. but also the average american, like the average britain, is more interested in their television programs. and celebrity culture and reality television, they no longer care what's happening in that society. let's alone can what's

happening in the why the wealth. so when the british major gives credence to polish claims that russia, bella, russia, responsible, or could be responsible for the migration crisis. and gulf in your average british person, the average american person would be happy to go along with that. it's a sad, depressing state of affairs d member. last 45 seconds for this part of the program. again, ukraine is playing a role in this year. the, the fact i'm agreeing with mark is here, the reason why nor stream one and 2 were built because ukraine was deemed as an unreliable transit partner and, and so that they're built. oh, okay. and now they're complaining about ukraine's energy and security. when you crane itself is responsible for that insecurity, go ahead. are you know, the west to us bill or was and it's the, the question will be gruel. look at the few good. some of the facts, how much more gruel the ukrainian been, you ukrainian government. i mean,

it's not just using trying chance against the demonstrate this infusion plain, some tax, you know, the store of the country and talking about the history of the gas by point built by point. and we're going to go to where we're going some real estate with the the when our shows the wrong. when all just don't the new rules. yes, to shape out the thing because the aptitude and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground.

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peter la bell. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah okay, let's go back to the, went to the break, the me you want to make a point before we talk about iran and it's diplomatic initiatives. you go ahead the mom, just the thing is when the, when that under pressure for all the west rush should build a pipeline to pull up, you know, through the 9th of the school year by europe. and the russian suggestion was to connect this bar bar into the ukrainians. wow. and the ball refused for geopolitical reasons. they said this can be used against ukraine. so this was, that's why russia had to build this huge bible and you won't examine why the world would be spend so much money because of all. and i would say very intransigent

and very absurd position. and just to remind our, our us, oh, how is the night the states involved in the project? how can the invite the states in both sanctions, on something between russia and germany. what will happen in russia or sanction us on the pipeline between mexico and the states. okay. other than doing that, imagine what a scandal would be, or this is except that the western society just something normal that the country that has nothing to do with this one is imposing sanctions, threatens and, and other countries saved or the present never. never framed that way. demon. thank you for pointing that up or i want to switch gears here. the shang cooperation organization around. finally, after many years of petitioning, i become a member of that or organization. why is that important? markets go ahead? well, i should say, 1st of all, peter, my opinion on america and i kind of song runs countries or many analysts and

journalists are saying, because i do not believe that america has less afghanistan. indeed, i believe that both america and britain have retains that influence america by having come to an informal agreement with the taliban. because the taliban were never defeated militarily by america on britain. and secondly, it was just inconceivable at the telephone, telephone on their own could have conquered afghanistan, countries so large, so the fine so diverse, different regions simply on their own notes, the american military gave the go ahead and also as well. american doesn't have to have soldiers in the country in order to control that country can control a country for control in this country's economy. but turn into the shanghai cooperation organization. if this is what it is, 1st go ahead. shanghai cooperation organization is a ration alliance,

including countries such as russia, china, central asia, and now iran. and it focuses on issue semi for security to economy. so politics and it's a very good alliance because it means that all of the countries in both on now members of the shanghai cooperation organization and iran having been as mrs. so the alliance demonstrates how iran's influence not just in the mid the weeks, but in the why the world is growing. and i consider it wrong. it makes sense to be very good, especially for the security of that region. yes, it will be good for trays, but i believe that there is, of course, a very serious islamist terrorists presence, growing not just in central asia, but also in the went in the chinese region are seeing shame. and i believe that iran as

a result of its tremendous experience in fighting against terrorism. after all, it was a wrong that prevented the cancerous tentacles of the pallet from extend them into the waist, will be able now to bind. so information with countries in b. s. c o. sensors, russia and china, which will be imperative semen and the fates in miss terrorism. and islamists, is the msm in general infatuation states. but of course the americans, who, as i said, remain very much in africa. miss dawn will view iran submitted admissions to the seo with increasing consternation because on the one hand that shows that surrounds influence is growing. secondly, the shanghai corporation organization has grown to such an extent now that the americans are exceedingly wary and concerned by its marcus brought it up in the midst of binding the, the shanghai cooperation organization. you know,

people in the west, my li, stupidly making some kind of comparison with nato, which is, it's not ok because, you know, the, the security element may be there, definitely counter terrorism. yes, definitely there. but there is the commercial economic element that is key could be the functioning of this organization. and this is why this is such a wind ball around because they're breaking out of the isolation, the maximum pressure warning that the us is the bite against the rain waiting and coming. so this is a very significant move, and this organization covers the array of land bass, bass. ok and, and this is a certainly a counter to the hedge. a monic aims us as the your agent land. go ahead. well, i will that to what market for just rightly said that there's some kind of corporate relation was founded in 1997 on china's initiative and then allow it don't only and

coach iran it, it goes in the park of stop. so basically when we're told by the west of need your own, there is so much contradiction between china. i just found the hate each other. somehow, when the state of the west is not in the wall, they can be members of the same organization. and they children of yours just woke at all. there is a notion statement from their shanghai corporation organization from our collective security organization csu. you will never find that any been the guard against the particular country. every statement starts with the preamble that su is not directed against any particular country in the world. you know, this is very different from later. you're right comparisons, but they don't make no sense because natal openly calls russia. you remember how hillary clinton clinton, gold rush and hostile nation. and we all remember how nature even statement talked

about adverse theory. you know, china and introduce your reference and almost an 80 me. so this is basically, this is what, this is. what is making as your so different from, from nato. it's a peaceful organization not directed against a particular country. and why does it make the united states of the west so angry because it shows that you and d. d, inside the same organization, despite differences, cultural, political differences. and the idea suggested by that he's still insist on having these democracy is versus of better theory and they signed it before the end of the year. are thought it would be possible to gain a barcode because just needed to remind you that again, for many years was the most important major l i outside the organization. you remember and look what happened to it and the coming back to what we were talking

about in the 1st part of the program. if we accept this idea or by that, that there are you mockers just and chris just right. then the why i people believe supposed be democratic iraq and supposedly democratic libya. why are they lead to even the, from the bit and to beller, bella russia from iraq, iraq. so democrats, why are the change in it for the authoritarian bill? it was, so there are so when you think that just don't add up in the western, in the world page from your book. i mean, when you put everything into an ideological lens, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. and that's exactly what these people do. mark, this is something that iran is really push for for very, very hard. i think they had observers status starting in 2005 if i'm not mistaken. so this is a win all for them. and it shows that the, the american lead campaign crusade, if i can use that word against the ran it show slowly, but surely eroding,

coming apart here. the country is very much self sufficient in many ways because of the sanctions. and now the massive economy deal made with china that we're the next quarter century. and this is a new page for our ram. i mean, it seems to me, they've made it through the worst year, at least as far as the american policy against the ram. and i think, as you pointed out, the region is going to be far more safer because there is real terrorism there. and having these and these cut all of these countries feel it. okay. and it's the common enemy. so in, i think instead of cobbling and protecting isis and the 31 flavors of g hon. these countries, michelle corporation organization are actually serious and biting it. go ahead markets one pizza. iran for over 42 years now has withstood a terrible terrific power raj or sanctions placed on it by america. and yet it

wrong not only has withstood the cause, but iran has grown stronger and stronger. and its recent admission to the s c o demonstrates that iran is more than just a regional player now. and it also goes to show how, how close iran's relations, political, economic, and military relations with both russia and china. all because of course moscow and basing off the de facto lasers. ready that's indisputable. iran has a very close relationship with china, and slide facing was more than happy for iran to be admitted. but even more important than that's, iran has a strategic partnership with the russian federation. that's on its own has changed, the dynamics has changed the dimensions of the made the waste because no longer is iran face in america on its own like it for it during the night. and

during the 19 nancy's so, of course, the kremlin was very happy to see its strategic partner in the message to the s c and the americans. and the british who are very much in afghanistan. and of course, the taliban will continue to do the bidding on behalf of their western patrons to feel fractions because it's just russia and china and iran, as dmitri directly said, india and pakistan are also members of the young. so the americans can't help, but feel somewhat strengthened by these countries in india because they are surrounding they also around in africa song. and it's no coincidence. i have a pizza about just stays off the telephone and conquers afghanistan. the taliban announced that they would guarantee the security of western pipelines in

afghanistan. that was very talent. and then days off the back. the c i a director match with the leadership of the pilot dots was very talent. and i believe that sooner rather than later, you will see washington and london established diplomatic relations with those relations of their okay, well that the, the, the last page that saga has yet to be written. i agree with much of what you have to say, but i think that the idea for a separate programs, i want to thank my guess in london and here in moscow i think our viewers for watching us here are dc next time. remember the ah ah, with me is work is a little bit of tension.

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