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ah, ah, the company rti for an exclusive interview. today we're joined by ne treme inventive chairman of united russia and deputy chairman of russia security council. and that's it. thank you very much for sitting down with our team. hello. my 1st question is about the party you live. united russia has retained the majority in the russian parliament since 2003. however, unlike the 2016 election with the 54 percent of the vote, this time popular support was just 50 percent. could you comment on the outcome and why the ruling party losing ground? someone in the party cookie, my good senior, the good. what should i say? it's a big win for the party. we must not grow complacently and rest on our laurels just because the ruling party enjoys great popularity among russian voters. still,

it is a very impressive outcome. most political parties in the majority of countries around the world would be quite happy with such results. we certainly very much. we've discussed this with my colleagues with presidents who helped our party during the campaign with as head of states. he was really key to our success. so the results are fine, but it doesn't mean that we can rest on our laurels. russians are happy about everything. that is not the case. the elections are always about trust that you will be able to deliver going forward. it is an acid test on where we have been doing well and not say, well, it reveals the concerns of our people that should be addressed in our agenda. and those we've largely resolved. what are united russia, the goals for the next term? and as you know, what are the priorities, how have they changed if at all it's been the election that there were 2 main objectives? one like for any party is to implement our agenda. i'll go into detail

a little bit later since we're the party that supports the incumbent president. our 2nd objective is monsieur his policies, to the best of our ability, national development goals, national projects and the priorities in his address to the federal assembly. so it is a twin mandate. offline, you're putting the president's policies into action is pretty straightforward. but executing a political agenda is a more new and stefan this year. it was put together in an unusual way. why did we call it the people platform to the proposals from about 2000000 people? not just party members. yes, we have about 2000000 members shaped by ordinary russian people. some of them probably don't even like united russia would least didn't vote for it. it was still, they had a hand in drafting this agenda, and the most essential and relevant ideas were incorporated in our campaign agenda . the 1st part focuses on living standards and welfare, will cover

a wide range of critical areas such as health care cation, social benefits, families, people with disabilities, as well as a number of the most pressing issues among them, housing, the utilities, and so on. it's not some high level blueprints. these are not just promising facilitates develop and 80. it's very granular. we need to do this, this and this. we shall bring household income up to this level where we shall by this number of buses, school children, and ambulances, that i need very specific, which is why i believe this agenda is a particularly good one. it has other sections to on economic growth on government relations and lawmaking. when you united russia, once again hold a constitutional majority in the state duma, it has all been laid out in detail. the equally important is to make sure it's put in practice during the previous and the current campaign thing i kept telling my fellow party members of our agenda is not just

a bunch of slogans like it often happens in many countries, not putting you when you forget about the agenda, you know, over the previous term, we held regular meetings, so called the platform commission. every 3 months. i gathered my fellow party members and ask them about the progress on governance, lawmaking and social policy, or demographics. false modesty aside, i can tell you that reservation bath and our 2016 agenda to a large extent, been implemented. and that's why russians voted the united russia. this might dislike to diss and popularity i will. so it's clear that it's a sign of sorts, but let's be realistic. out of $225.00 single seat constituency. m. p. 's, 198 are united russia members. and it's a remarkably good result was as for the party on the whole, the results is slightly worse, but it's not surprising to me, it's been a challenging for you years. well, unfortunately, with the pandemic and incomes falling, but as well as other issues, still our party has never shirked responsibility. we supported many different

decisions and not all of them people you're happy about. but i believe that this is the main goal of the ruling party. it's not slogans and promises and hand shaking. it's about actually making important decisions for the benefit of our people, even if they are sometimes i'm popular. i think we've managed to find the balance that previously the parties chairman used to be at the top of the national election led that letter and who has held that position you have as well. but this year, 5 other people had the less well known and bearing stand respected in their fields . but none of them have any experience in law making. denise protests, for example, as an entirely new name and russian politics falling in them. why were they chosen? what will their future in the party be? well, i already addressed this question at the party convention when we came up with the names of these 5 people, but it may sound obvious, but a political party is not about one person or 2 people who actually it's not just

vladimir putin or dmitri madrid. if why anyone else for that matter, poverty is a big team to be reckoned with. a social organism, it's like one of the main goal of a party need like su, is to be constantly on the look out for new names, new people for politics. you people for political projects and new heavyweights, people who are well known and respected, either in politics or in their professional area. i think we did what was right for the party. the 5 leaders we have chosen are well known, even popular individuals. they are very well known in the community. also those who come to cost that balance and care about the evolution of russia political system would like to see new faces by new faces. i don't necessarily mean entirely new you'll never seen before. well, there can be young and inexperienced, of course, it could be people who have never engaged and political battles. that's who we have on the ticket. with the exception of sag a show you who is closely connected with the party. in fact,

it was he who helped create the party 20 years ago. so he is a well known figure among the party members and supported with more with, for the future within the party. it's clear that most of them will stay in their professional field will continue working in their fields. one person's my colleague and whose name server will work in the state duma from now on. however, none of them are going to sever that ties with the party. they will continue to make a difference in one way or another. some will stay with the parties governing bodies . others will supervise party project for the president earlier suggested that 5 leaders could subsequently take on a project closest to that professional field. i am positive that the future in the party is going to be bright. you know, i hear if united russia a right wing orient last party. do you think that a ruling party should have one dominant ideology? elegant new bozeman?

no, i don't think so. it's my deep conviction. there are some well known theories and political science that prove my point. so does the russian constitution, modern russia doesn't have a national ideology. the way it did in the past was trying than the 1977 constitution. article 6 today parties are focused on just one thing, supporting the well being of the people, helping the country grow and all parties of the political spectrum, right wing left ramos centrist, proclaim this as their ultimate goal. in reality, we'll see that the key goal for any party are basically the same. we all want to have a good life. we all want our country to grow. we all want to drive away poverty and make our health care strong and efficient. we will want to have the best education for our kids. this is what all parties have on their agenda, and the only difference here is in the methods to achieve these goals. and selection of methods is not necessarily dictated by the parties. place on the

political spectrum division into rights and left wing political ideologies will still be there. but look how blurred these lines are between them and other countries in today we no longer have a wide ideological gap between the platforms of various political parties in russia . way it was back in the early 20th century, the part of the game. it boils down to the methods each party chooses to achieve the results in the country need. there are significant differences. united, russia, as motto goes true, by the way. it's a party of real action. we do our best to deliver on everything we have put on the paper. we want to set an example for others. of course, some things come out well, but sometimes we fail. people would criticize harshly every time we do. but it's easy to monitor out performance anyway and see where we succeed and where we fail a person in the same time. we understand that each party has it is important. every punch to grow,

it's as much as possible. this is exactly why we chose have no party ideology, because if a party says ok, we're a party for the proletariat. it will only get the votes of those people who identify themselves or feel related to the pro, carry it, and so on. for a party, for large business, it just doesn't work the same way anymore. used to in the early 20th century silver . where does united russia belong on the political spectrum, but i would call it a conservative and central party chunk of the national guard. what do you think about the current state of competition and russian politics? critic say it is waning. the number of parties with a chance to run has shrunk by over 50 percent from 74 in 2016 to 32 in 2021. out of 47 parties that are no longer active, 43 were dissolved by the supreme court. not by themselves. do you see the problem here? nathan, dancing lets you know, its neither a problem know

a particularly good thing, just to find them. i would like to remind you about the amendments introduced during my presidency back in 2012. it allowed for more per unit for political parties. prior to that, we only had a limited number of parties and after that, the number grew quite a lot of them. this, however, didn't necessarily mean that they all came to stay on that some of them simply failed to win. persevere on the competition games trying to failed to raise the funds or failed to secure a vote to base, but some failed to comply the law. and the supreme court issued a routing cases found them. so i don't see this as much of a problem when you parties can emerge as well, but they need to meet the criteria stipulation by law with them. they need to have the support in the cities than in the regions. and if they want to compete on the nationwide level, they need to have extensive support throughout the country, which can you show up. let me also ask you about online voting and nothing that has

there has been a mixed response to. it was nice, as we know, the communist party didn't accept the results in moscow, wants to find an online vote count was announced. what's your take is everything fine myself well, online voting is a fresh trend. i'm strongly convinced that sooner or later the entire world will be voting on line. so it's inevitable. there's only one issue here, verifying the outcome. there is still some work out standing here. the government must provide the writing conditions that people need to trust the outcome of the online, but the procedure, it is beyond doubt that online voting is the future at the same time those and i believe that in the short term, russian citizens should have both options in the traditional voting procedure and online voting. do you think, mr. vindictive did a good job as the head of the observer is during the selection to watch the online voting. and he took some lead online mostly, well him,

but everybody takes some heat on line. so there is no surprise that just a list of any victim of is no exception. i think it all worked out pretty well. i mentioned this before, but you need to verify the outcome of credit, but there's also another points. it's also about convenience. the last time the leaders of the political parties and factions meant mr. sure enough sky said that voting has to be a duty rather than rights. that should be a penalty failing to vote many countries or inhabits by the way, in some it is punishable with a fine. in others, it is a criminal offense. i don't think we'll want to criminalize non voting. will they some countries do. but i think that use a convenience becomes ever so important world. today i was able to start loading up a couple more questions about the election. this time there was no live video feed from the polling stations available to everyone. party members and authorized individuals had access, but not the general public. and another novelty was that the vote itself lasted 3

days, not one. and how did all this to fact the public perception of the election? ideally, i believe a 3 day vote is a must. these days can no longer be done any other way. as long as we have to deal with the pandemic, a prolonged vote, a 3 day vote, for example, is unavoidable. and there's nothing wrong with it. whether it will stay this way later on when we, when the global fights against cove at 19, as i hope we will, i can't say for sure. but in any case it seems to be a practical and convenient option. we take some advanced democracies like the united states where voting takes months. genuine. everyone's k with instead of the under the circumstances 3 days are necessary. and at the micro, for the broadcasts, it's in fact very expensive and all the cameras working 247 you'll get it here is not to satisfy someone's curiosity. and that's done for the sake of verifying the outcome for the sake, integrity of each and every polling station. that's why we need the recordings,

me all 3 days. the cameras were recording the vote from the very beginning to the very end. they should have been down. we can look at the questions that i need be taking the course. so the recordings will be stored for 12 months with the join me every thursday on the alex solomon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport, business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the if you questions about the luxury in the context of international relations rushes, ministry of foreign affairs has some and john sullivan,

the us investor to moscow. over latch, too much interference by american tech giant. we all remember how the 2016 us presidential election resulted in the american political establishment, launching the 3 year investigation into russian madly. do you think something similar could be initiated in russia now against us companies, for example? and what would be the impact of such a prob, you lonely? i don't really know. i stick to the well known latin formula for quid pro quo cool, a favor for a favor, quote unquote. since they did a favor, why wouldn't we reciprocate? i think we could look into loans to probes human. this is the job for the law enforcement, wasn't it? was now a central election commissioner in the ministry of foreign affairs. if there is enough evidence to prove their interference, why not? according to the data we have during the 3 day central election commission servers were under contract, an attack, the ministry of digital developments, or port that's around half came from the united states. that's reason enough fights

right. i was on your home and you mentioned the attack on the central election commission servers. i mean, we've also registered cases when google directly interfered in the russian election by placing batteries in video ads and chrome, and unused to created by a legacy in the valid esteem. they contained adverse publicity aimed at united russia. the candidate only is russia planning to introduce any restriction or honey sion any way. the american 10 giants for fear in the election in this way. is it possible to put pressure on companies like google besides issuing political, steve mentioned, slapping them with fine. google, it is possible and necessary because the way i see it for everyone sick and tired of big tech, including the united states, even biden's administration, which at some point seemed to have an advantage of a trump's team. the digital space is not considering legislation that would limit these companies, which is big tech plays by its own corporate rules. they made the most amount.

that's how they decide things. they let some of the hook, but he give others the chop. they belong to the former us president, everywhere he had 851900 1000000 followers. by, by just why we don't like him. we didn't like something he said. but these decisions were not based on us law on an applicable ruling american. they were based on the internal corporate rulings, they have some serious power. now you mentioned that activities during our election, if it isn't that hopefully unacceptable them to have basically interfered with russians politics. yes, they complied with our talk telecom watchdog eventually and hope to these activities. but when exactly on the, on the day of the vote before that this whole machine was going full speed. promoting video is created by a person who is serving a prison sentence for criminal offense will say they were showing videos of criminal to advance their political agenda on foreign soil. this is outrageous and

we have to react. of course, we could react in various ways. for example, we could apply the law that we already have in place, and it allows us to restrict block slow down the activities of majors. social media platforms are all we can also find them. so this is not just a slap on the wrist must be a high cost finding them in russia altogether than under the new legislation. taking effect from january. the 1st 2020 to all digital platforms with over 500000 register uses have to open office in russia. this measure will help us to have a say on the policies of these companies operating in this country. and they will have to abide by these regulations. and so i can relate it to myself. i have about 4500000 following twitter number. and when i checked with recommendations on who to follow, of course, the 1st person who comes up is an invalid and he was serving a criminal center. this isn't this interference in the affairs of a foreign country. it's blatant interference. company, open and private i,

as you mentioned, a possible then in western platforms. this is a major statements and there are many active rushing years of youtube. for example . do you think this decision might have some negative consequence or i didn't say that we should. bam, the platforms, i said we should have options to have a say on their operations, even the us of his work. now these regulation, these won't be just corporate rules. we see the same trend in europe. they realize that digital media can be used to influence foreign elections and preferences and they are concerned. we should also have all the options to regulate a big tech. it doesn't mean they should be banned. on the contrary, if they follow all the rules, that's great. i'm a social media, use it myself. convenience. the fun bottle. just play by the rules abide by the laws of the country the way you operate. and that is exactly why they need to have a registered office in the country to do nothing special that you are

a digital platform that has tens of millions of uses in the country. would it be so crazy to have an office then you make money that after all the muscle we talked about? fine, lucy, of course we could mention that kevin nails, et cetera. what you make money by operating in a foreign states and ignore the laws of that state. people will not tolerate that. so i am sure that this legislation will eventually be passed in every country. some western leaders have called the russian election, illegitimate, and politicians from some neighboring countries refused to recognize the results in crimea at the same time mentioned. because getting harder and harder to question election results in the united states will know what happened to trump supporters, chicago. so they didn't enjoy a nice ride that shows you some of them are in jail, and most of them have been thrown out of all those social media platforms when the chest before our interview. and we got the news about the tubes of data policy. we

will delete all content claiming falsification in the us presidential election and recent parliamentary vote in germany. the when you remember doesn't say anything about an hour later. i know nothing about our election yet much the way it sounds like them. i would be very original, but these are classic double standard policies. what was your question again? semester on the mcguire movies and we see that elections in western countries can be challenged at all while a vote in russia is questioned even before it starts. so what's your response? no, that's just ignores them. as the saying goes, dogs bark is often worse than its bites. we couldn't care less about these allegations life, but we are a large independent country that has the sovereignty over its entire territory. but we have our own laws, and they can say whatever they want, it won't matter to us with some food and you tell them when russia suggested cutting, a number with me observer is due to who we related restriction. se decided not to

send any tax for us to the russian parliamentary election. don't you think this looks like an attempt to undermine the credibility of the russian election from the start? and actually at the use of what that is exactly what it is. obviously an attempt to credit the russian election beforehand with an all day shifts. shameless brazen attempts. if they said they would send 500 experts from the office for democratic institutions and human rights because of cove it, we said, hey guys, that's too many people. you send 30 observers to the united states. you send 50 on average, and why do you want to bring 500 this time? let's cut this number to a more standard size. and then you are welcome to come to observe that i think they said no. caesar or ne hill all or nothing. either caesar or no one else, you know, one, it is then literally obviously there was some hidden agenda from the very beginning,

much they decided by default at the election, illegitimate. some people say, perhaps it would have been worth it just to do as the asked and to allow, as many observers as they wanted to avoid such allocations what, what just well, to start with. we couldn't care less about all that noise, to be honest with you. secondly, the 2008 election when i ran for president also generated a lot of noise. there were also claims made about a lack of observers that it change anything, but you know, it didn't switch and you know, it's no good when international organizations i exploited by a group of certain countries to influence the others. what is the mission of the o. s. c. originally. you don't remember it, but back in the 970. it started as a conference on security and cooperation in europe, not the organization the way it's called today. and its purpose was to provide

a platform for all members to be able to work out mutually acceptable decisions on all kinds of issues. when an international organization is used to put pressure on us whenever our policy differs, in fact, runs counter to the very essence of such an organization. that's the problem. in some cases, only mutual agreement is the only way forward. let's say, why does the you and charter include a veto power put the put many criticized saying it needs to be dropped. what it has a genuine value for. international politics is applied in situations when one un member or a group of members do not support the motion. if someone disagrees, they weren't comply. so what's the use of such motions even if they are pass with, they will generate more attention, more becker's more discord. i believe the value of such organizations including observe emissions, is defined by the principle of mutual agreement. i said in my final question, before the election, there was a lot of speculation about your future. and i said, you'll be 2nd to be the next speaker, stay duma. i said, i guess the speaker,

it was wow, that's some way to put it. i'll be succumbed. it will things. but why didn't decide not to run post? not us with what i see live. well, since you are released, i'd say it's a personal question, but i'll tell you if you know that the state duma is the most important legislative agency we have in our country, it passes laws working. there is extremely interesting and rewarding when i was young and worked with a lawyer in st. petersburg in the late 19 eighties and early nineties. that's when we already have the state duma established. i was thinking about my future employments. with enough experience i source, i could make it to the state duma and work on your laws show. it's actually very interesting, but it all worked out in a different way for me professionally. it so happened that i became a state and then i was appointed head of government post. i held longer than anyone else in recent years at least. and this has brought a drastic change to my career,

of course, because you see there are not many job options for an ex president way form ahead of states. in some countries, ex presidents are not allowed to hold public off as a tool. they give lectures or moderate forums, etc. but in russia, we don't have this rule. however, there is a clear understanding of what jobs are acceptable for an ex presidents. at present . i am deputy chairman of russia security council when the russian president, is it chairman? i deal with exciting and important issues of rushes, national security and defense abilities. and i was appointed largely due to the experience that i had accumulated in the capacity of presidents and prime minister asked for my experience in the state duma. and i have to say was all very delicate . you have to coordinate a lot of things in your juggle interests and political will always trying to find the compromise between various factions. it's a very delicate, an artful, painstaking job that you have to do day in and day out. your previous experience

and your track record has nothing to do with it. was that you do it just because it just happened this way. you were elected to the state duma in the past, and i can tell you how i feel about this now. i believe it's not how x president, fates need to be decided. this is not right for obvious reasons. still, i want to say once again left the job of m. p is very interesting. in many of my colleagues, think of better experience in the duma is the combination of professional career law career. not everyone is a lawyer, but it's still about low making. and it's a really exciting job who play music. thank you very much for sitting down with us by silicon. thank you for having a mobile and all the best to you and all your viewers will come all ah,

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