well known that there is some degree of understanding between pakistan and the taliban. how big is that understanding or influence in your estimation and how can one talk to the taliban so that they would listen rather than resist the daily bon? i'm bulk of the african balaban gander is and has been in afghanistan all alone. and we have been maintaining that there are team 1000000 refugees and sometimes on valuable. don't visit bogus. and that's the only leverage we had on them. unfortunately, the united states government and the afghan is than government kept on to beacon this mantra, bear valley bonham shaped trees in pakistan which was not effect her and her as a result. they were using this to justify their lack of success or failure in afghanistan of the military strategy. and my son was consistently saying that no

back to earth look inside afghanistan, or all the solutions and not in by august, that bank a son actually would not like to have any proxy or any previous in stock, including alberto, with all due respect ambassador in that really am geopolitically on is because i know all of the countries that have security interests in afghanistan. they do have certain proxy forces there. i mean, and that, that makes sense from the point of view of both intelligence and security. so how can you claim, or argue that pakistan would have none, or would want to have known when your basic security so tightly lead to that country? i think it's important at this point in time for every country or more. so the legion look on peace of mind is on the neighbors of badness, than to start respecting of, understand as an independent sovereign country,

where we have seen that intervention was twice soviet union than by united states. every man is man, i think we should give to people who understand it big or so. my sense is that there should be no proxies enough done by any country. and i know that india didn't use of nissan soil against august sun, but i am saying that no gun, montoya, or any strategic objectives, any technical, that's the best treatment and respect we can give to the people that i want to tell them came to power on 25 years ago, like i said, it was one of the very few countries to officially recognize that government. do you think history? i will repeat this and if so, how quickly? i hope it does not. because i think the taliban offer yesterday. is there a way to ology and this time around this seem to be more market. they have made certain commitments. there made a commitment that there'll be

a message for all they have made a commitment that women will be allowed to work and study. and then they will not allow a dentist entities to make good to use a full on soil against anyone. and there also are sort of committed that we have an inclusive govern. now all these for them to me, it, it, if they honor that i, you can see it very positive response from all countries, especially the regional countries and international community. but if the door any follow on those or commitments i, i think that they will not be doing any service 2 of them. i think the issue of our international recognition is a very thorny and very fast and one not only for the taliban but also for the so called international community. because everybody has very strong reasons to do that. and not to do that, as long as the taliban is listed as a terrorist organization by the united nations. we have to recognize that any

contact with formal speaking is a violation of international law. so my question to you is, would you rather see all those countries, russia, pakistan, india, china, the united states. again, everyone who is in any shape or form is involved in the region, i'm attaining certain contacts with the talent, and would you rather continue seeing them do that covertly or rather come into compliance with the international law that they themselves created a few years ago? yeah, you see the united states was the 1st one to while it's that the brother 67 un security council sanctions regime. and this started talking to the 31st over 3 then or weekly. so that was kind of recognition doggy taliban as a political intercultural political entity. i don't tank now.

people can turn around and asked by august on these are the other, why are you talking to them? they're all have to do to them because we're, we needed the end of the days. he's full of renaissance and that can't happen until you brought to the doctor, the dial one and of course, other african. i'm busted, i fully understand the logic from the real politic perspective, but i'm asking you about the respect of international lawyers. it's not about the americans. i mean, unless you treat them as a sort of i little guardian of that law. but if we, as international community, russia, pakistan, and other countries, if we read that international law, should we deal with that moment? not from reality, reality perspective, but from the, from the legal perspective and the perspective absolutely legally speaking, a valuable i'm now involved in a for gun is done. and they have given certain commitments and he did on of those commitments. and i think this would be an, a recommend a counterpart commitment from the international community to be honest them from

that, that the sanctions regime. and i think that that would probably be a necessity. now there were just like pakistan in northern india were part of one states. i think you would recognize that that country has deep connections to indian security interest as you rush and security interest to pakistan, security interest, and pretty much everyone who is in the region has say, in afghanistan, do you think all these varied and sometimes very opposite? think your interest could be well aligned with some semblance of harmony. i mean the only alignment that he'll bring be still. everyone will be in diary janisa for that is that if offline is done, is we are seeing that there's been military action that have been spin on whatever else was going on. we have seen that it has led well the instant before. i believe

that every country, every country should respect the sovereignty of, of an understand alert to let this piece be a full on lead and a plan on how it work. that said, i think the legion has a responsibility to facilitate that these who assist the land foreman isn't inclusive government, and done better affairs as a normal country. now speaking about regency responsibility, a few weeks ago, indian prime minister there under monday was addressing one of the big russian conferences. and he specifically mentioned the situation in afghanistan and mentioned this indian concept of sun gamma, which in sanskrit means the conflict of several the reverse. do you think? do you think that's just a beautiful rhetorical tool or is it something that has strategic necessity or perhaps strategic conditions to be realized for the benefit of your age as

a hall b. m. m. national point of august on a law make while gord of crown is on his heart afresh here, that if your heart is weak, the entire continent will be weak. so there have been different phrases to describe the importance of man is on. there is no doubt about it that a plan is done as a religion connecting the sub regions of south asia, recitations until asia is no doubt about it. color with that said, i think i'm on my saying, but we did not see india playing in your positive role that they can't use a for on intelligence to sponsor and be boxed on elements like that. he gets, i live on august on like blue, just on liberation, army and others to create in standard inbox. and we were constantly saying that the non government must not give up space to india who is using of non toil to create a double squeeze against bucks them from east and west it to

a friend situation. been for i don't know what i'm, what he had in mind when he said that he did a some them. but probably it is important that we realize that we need this sunday to be more peaceful now because it is one of 9 is done, can ensure more stability knowledge. now thinking about stability and civil government and the world for the most part have now assumed wait and see attitude towards the talent which i know that some in pakistan have criticized and dangerous . i wonder what do you think would work better? sort of waiting and seeing the talon to prove itself as a legitimate government and only that for them funds and expertise to rebuild the country or on the country all for assistance now and by and i sort of pay to wait for the talent to grow into a legitimate government, i think humanitarian assistance should be extended regardless because the people

must not be there must not be allowed to land into desperate situation. i think that the international community and the regional countries for 2 anyway. and as for technical assistance to run the government and do and to financial assistance, mice, it is my sense that all countries of the region are already broken to each other, coordinating because they want to coordinate and response. i think there is an expectation in amongst the regional countries that now that united has moved away h a. it is their responsibility to assist us understand establish conditions of peace. well, in the been in the country are the same time i think been for austin, demands all united states, not to abandon of sunday responsibility. they were here for 20 years. they need to support a condition of peace enough. got his son and i wrote them to stay engaged and henceforth about 4 and a dentist and have been

a recipient for an assistance for more than for the kids. and i think it's fair to say that it has never been efficiently used or even appreciated. and i, her, i heard you say a recently, in one of your species that i guess that has everything it needs to make its own living and handsomely so and preserve its independence and sovereignty that way. can you speak more about that? yes, certainly i think so because i've got to son is a rich country in many ways no one is going on to by august on it is it has access to box on the porch a flourishing bilateral trade with bogus on and also the lead on and others, and everyone is on his legend mendo. so if the conditions of peace can be established, i'm sure china and, and, and others would like to invest. the ne, also know that a plan is done can and a lot from the transit fees. if it allows these energy central is here to send us

energy flows, knows how to ship. one is done that i've been b medicine and gas pipeline. there's been a while and energy from of lantus, from budget on and get this done. so i see that if this initial fears can be offered and thought about, are able to use the condition, the expectations from the regional countries. i see that it will be a rich country. it can be a rich frontier. okay, well i'll say a very short short break on this very positive and now we'll get back, especially in just a few moments. ah ah, come with

with a nod, new quote is peaceable easement league. shall i tell her what happened? i make no certainly no borders line to tease and you as

a marriage with that whole world leads to take action and to be ready, people who judge you come in, we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way, but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great. the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together with a tiff. ah

ah, welcome back to all the parts with a 1000 my child read, directed general institute of strategic studies about on pakistan's form ambassador to the united states ambassador before the break. we were talking about a unique position as a transit country, but you also mention that a, sitting on dairy large mineral beaches and has large deposits of precious and rare

materials, particularly as we know that in the day and age china and the west are embroiled in very, very big battles for the strategic control of those deposits. how do you see that playing out in the next few years and they can see that as that as a blessing or a curse. as far as future development of i've got is concerned. i think it depends how it turns out. a united states, sir, competition with china, and i hope that it does not enter offline is done. and is mendel? well, i believe a plan is done, and the people of afghanistan deserved her dad bare minerals, his exploit, and in a more systematic manner. and the fluids off bad development. go to the directly to the people off of that country and in there should not be

a competition on rivalry between any countries. and it was 3 or more countries, or that i think people of afghanistan, at least we owe it to them because for 40 years they have suffered enormously. we owe it to them. and so if conditions of peace can be establish an honest abolition, it is my sense that the book, china and branch united states to be corporate america would likely invest. and he's a big company. there are different areas where it can be invested. and i think those kind of investment and one more area, if i meant dimension extension all for a c back, dyna focused on economic got it or both china and bugs that have given this indication that we would like to extend this. do understand. in fact, if you come from the other, the southern port in the indian ocean upward, the 1st port of trust, your own point is a kind of city of cannot. if you just spend a rest

a little bit. and if you keep going, and you can also, you know, benefit the east of that is that my sense is that there is a desire amongst the regional companies. and hopefully amongst the western digital data for understand should be a place where we should invest and let the fruits descend to the people off of amazon as well. well, if you also to handle the ability of the taliban to manage countries, enormous treasures afford it. people and this leads me to my next question because we know this fight is by governing. even in accordance with law is a very different than their tedious challenge. a towel bond fighting on foreign invaders versus a taliban running its own domestic affairs. do you think there will be different than i do? they have to be different. fighting in a buying force is one thing,

but plenty of countries is another thing. and that is why all these 4 conditions and commitments that they had made them who made that commitment and the international community. and that is including my country have an expectation from of about $1.00 to $1.00 of those commitments. because we believe that if they don't, then you know, it would be difficult for them and they would need technical assistance, financial assistance, all the help that they're going to going to or for that they have to show that they're ready for. it was a national division surrounding a hearing wars or before about growing internal tribes. those taliban fighters, that's me patrolling the streets of capital and other and cities on, on this same talent functionaries negotiated the deal with the american c.

doha, do you think the tower than later to spend the last 20 years and do you think they have enough authority to shave anthony brown? a will have to reconcile it because if fighting force is one and a good thing, force is another. and therefore, they will have to manage this transition so far in the last 20 years times prediction. and of course one made by anyone on 1000000000 thing. but that did not happen. i think the leader continue to enjoy the authority or no no, he can keep the won't gather in go on. this is something that i will say. i would not like to enter into speculation rather than this bill that i do hope that they are able to manage the country in a manner that it brings peace otherwise they all. busy send to and we all stand.

now you mentioned before, all these commitments that they found been made so far and a gave the international community, you know, the kind of phrases that community wanted to hear on women's rights and city. although all those that say yes to be, you know, put into actual policies are catchphrase that i think is because the missing from all the statements is democracy or democratic transition. do you think the talent could and should be prior to that? and the kind of democratic procedure is that the previous african governments maintain. but i am certainly know on, in a position to dictate or i think it has to work on what it should be. because i believe that the,

even if the on the actually go in the democratic order, they will probably be been gone. 6, your special value. i have to say, no, i am, i am going to be more than this because if you are expecting the random it will be in the image. ok, a see, and i'm sorry, this is a wrong expectation. you will have to see one is a entities you got you, what was the democratic system on both understand it involves a political order. that's my my sense. ok, let me be a devil's advocate for a moment. because earlier in the discussion, we must wait and see approach as many countries have adopted. so is that, is there anything in your view that they will won't be able to see and tama coming

from the taliban? i personally feel that if the tyler bond go back to their ways of 1990 s when they were involved, i don't think they're going to be serving themselves any favor any. but they've got to be more inclusive. they've got to carry others along. and they're working on of those commitment. that's my sense. if the don't i, i'm a fair, there would be difficulties and i will follow through their company. and finally, if i may let me draw on your experience as pakistan's ambassador to the united states and ask you specifically about a possible ties with the united states under the new interior met ministration. we can figure is i mr. jaime, who was pointed to the interior ministry despite being on the most want at least, and 5 credible before that he may still be holding an american hostage g thing

washington. it will still want some sort of a relationship with the new or a capital. or do you think that that relationship may already have been established? the americans have been talking to with the taliban for the auster 2 and a half years and nothing has really changed in that sense. and since the deal, in february 2020, it was the same bond and they can look at their b. m. now that they've been drawn, that has been in austin, the mon, the american association, and from all these other countries that you should stay engaged, that you, all the people who understand what blood has been shed. so much destruction has happened. and you need to support the process, offer you peace and development in afghanistan. how will that happen in ship

if, if a gun, if united states actually disengages it from a non completely, then i'm sure there will be problems because you're not sure. preeminent bought on the evidence sponsibility so much of the but i think it will not be fair, but the answer say, oh, it's a regional problem. then these are countries 100. we have nothing to do with that. i don't think that's a good idea. i think i just need to stay engaged. i think the regional countries need to play the part and all of that in service of the city getting be seen of nissan. do you think the united states, after all the humiliation that it has endured during the withdrawal, the, you know, those nasty and science for 16 from the airport, you be able to come to the regional table as one of many, certainly an important player and vital player player, but one of many are ready to consult and maybe can gauge with others. or do you think this on, you know, old american attitude and

a lot of them to you again in the 1st place is still there. i think all countries and i can certainly speak for august on have been had been constantly telling the united states that we would expect is responsible for all i think the idea of all. busy that if united god in his it could be what happened? you know, but unfortunately, debate would doubt that it just ended up making a deeper goal. and we saw that valuable board in just 11 days. and all did expectation that random montana bond national maybe or turned out to be false. now united states should, i think in league the d. the division of the countries awoke out a strategy. the government get us to see their bid it a more stable when it goes dispensation than the one i mean,

they formed and shared a bit so much of money and which was not sustained, even little pressure. and the guy, much not me, did not put any fight at all. so i do you have the responsibility still to stay engaged with? well, i'm, after we have to leave it there. i hope you're the latest you will be, jack indicated just as much as a strategy. you know, guys done over the last 20 years. i really hope that americans come to this region as somebody who wants to contribute rather than somebody who wants to control anyway. we have to live there. thank you very much for your a much. thank you. thank you, and thank you for watching hope to see you again next week on wells apart. ah mm.

noun . of course, after 40 years of sad interventionism by simply expanding and pretending in printing a lot of money, they got into this cargo called the, you call it mentality where simply waving a flag, you know, that essentially printing more money is going to make all the problems disappear meanwhile, politically, what we've seen in america is really remarkable. the, the liberal left and there cohorts in the media, even though that this policy is causing incredible human suffering in america. they effectively marginalize those people as quote, deplorable and really made scapegoats of the victims of j pow. they've often said that this is a victimless crime, money printing and extortion. that's practice of the fed. and yet i look at those

90000 dead americans last year from opiate overdose. i'd say j pal, you got blood on your hands cuz that's a direct result of mal investment, money printing, and rogue economics that you're practicing as a charlatan. ah ah hm. join me every thursday on the alex simon. sure. but i'll be speaking to guess when the world politics small business. i'm show business. i'll see you then.

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