don't have the public on site, they also don't have the politicians on site either maurice johnson just a few days ago, labeled these protesters as irresponsible and impossible for us. these are the tensions right here are quite high indeed. as a huge please your presence, i haven't yet arrested anybody, but that's only a matter of time until they change their minds. ah, with we've been here for around an hour or so, and there's been at least a dozen arrests, but they're still around a dozen protesters that have literally glued themselves to the rose. i've spoken to a few people that have now been arrested one woman who was arrested 9 times, so she's prepared to go to prison for this cause. and so she's doing this simply for a better world in the future. i've already been arrested for and i'll keep doing it

on the i that the government start taking notice and installation houses as it should be very, very simple. it all day, just to use the money to start insulating houses. walker carrying on with building or build recovery. they're killing the economy that you're currently, it's about time, they started being long. so under these new measures, these protesters could be child up to 6 months and receive hefty fines as well. which campaign is there's a complete denial of their rights to peacefully protest. and as annoying as this group may be, would anybody actually be talking about them if they weren't so disruptive? this group at least say that the government and the government did stop this all in a moment and of course may can lead to that demand. shoddy edwards dash team. no, there will be no face to face some of this year between the world to biggest economies, with just

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this is boom, bought the one business show you can't afford to mit ambridge, board washington coming up the u. s. and china officially held national security talk to switzerland, what higher level discussions are being outlined as biden. and she planned to hold a virtual summit later this year. she had, we discussed the talks and what issues are on the table. then we take you back inside the fight over the u. s. that feeling of the nation stairs down the barrel of a default. we'll discuss the implications of such a move and how markets are reactive, and with volatility lurking around the corner, the i m f, has spoken out against the adaptive crypto currency in developing economy. later on we look into the i m f warning and what it means for the fate of the digital currency factor vector today looks had with the us china relations at

a new 40 year low presidents biden. and she have finally agreed to their 1st summit by the end of this year, though that summit will be held virtually. as i understand what came out of the discussions was an agreement to continue a dialog at a very high level. we're still working through what that would look like when i'm and of course, the final details, so we don't have quite have them yet. among the issues that will be discussed is growing tension over taiwan. i'll concern that he's at these recent activities. my actually as play and then draw the us into some sort of great power war with china and to what are you doing to maintain attention yawn kind of has helped meeting for this york meeting that j. collins, i wouldn't call a meeting with our national security advisor and his counterpart, an ad hoc meeting. obviously we raised our concerns to a range of channels. the state department also put out a public statement,

a proactive statement on this, which is not something they do frequently, and the secretary of state spoke to it today. for more on this, let's bring in boom bust co host an investigative journalist, ben swan, ben. a i want to start with this issue of taiwan. president biden spoke about it himself briefly and here's what he had to say. i agree with will. bye bye. i would agree that we are and we made it clear that he should be doing anything other than by the group. so ben, where does this leave things? but it didn't sound exactly like a very strong stance there. but look at a 145 fighter jets. that's the report. 145 fighter jets from china have entered, ty, ones, aerospace since the weekend over about a 4 day period that took place. it looks like provocation. taiwan is obviously very upset about it. china seems to be encroaching more and more,

moving towards some kind of military encounter. the question is, what will the u. s. do about it? if there is a move by china, a military move into taiwan? are we really going to go to war over china? taiwan and one of the things that i see for president biden saying is, you know, he's on one hand talking about the one china policy, which doesn't really officially recognize taiwan. at the same time, he's talking about agreements that the u. s. has with ty one in order to protect it, so not exactly sure where we stand. he says he talked to president, she and president, she agrees that though a bye bye bye. what i mean. the fact is, you can say whatever you want when you're sitting, a 145 fighter justin to someone else there space. you're certainly trying to ratchet up tension, and i'm not sure the u. s. is going to do much about it. and ben, i mean with trade between the 2 sides remaining contentious. how does that topic play into this bite? and she summit as we move forward and these tensions continue to kind of escalate

whites. it feels like it from everything that i'm reading, every thing that seems to come out of the white house. they want to make it seem as if these are bilateral talks right, that the chinese are very anxious to talk. the u. s. is very anxious to talk. it doesn't seem that it's as bilateral. they make it out to be. it seems like jake sullivan, who is the national security advisor, is reaching out to china, talking to his counterpart. they are trying to get some kind of meeting. it's going to be a virtual meeting because present. she hasn't left china for 2 years now almost. ah, he's not going to attend in person. the g 20 summit. he's going to do that virtually. and so the, the responses we need some kind of meeting with, got to have something. and so that the chinese don't seem to be as eager to meet with the u. s. as the u. s. is to meet with china on a whole variety of issues, tie ones, one of them, but also just on trade. and in terms of what is happening with, you know, kind of new carrot versus stick measures being taken to say, how do we keep china in light? the chinese don't seem to be anxious. and on that trade note, catherine tire the us trade representative chair. so kind of laid out the whole

policy towards china ahead of these talks out of the new policies, or how to the policies of the biden administration. that is to say, affect the phase one trade deal made under the trump administration between us and china. yet will remember that phase one trade deal between the u. s. and china that was made under trump, you know, had all kinds of cookie things in it, including a demand for china to buy $200000000000.00 worth of agricultural goods, more than what they had paid in the previous year. china's not doing that, they hadn't been doing their have 30 percent behind on that. and so, but, but what do you do about it? i mean, is the u. s. going to be able to say ok, so here come the tariffs, here comes the punishment. there really is not a whole lot you can do right now if we talk about economies, obviously everything in that, that chinese u. s. trade deal was pre pandemic. it was pre cove, it so all of the, you know, purchase from us this amount. we need better deals in terms of, of products moving back for them, the tariff, the,

by the ministration doesn't seem to like the terrorist as much. but can they really afford to do that? the u. s. economy hurting an awful lot right now. and so if you were to put tariffs on china who's going to absorb the cost of that us consumers are, they're the ones who are going to pay the price for it. so there's not a whole lot you can do right now. and that's why i mentioned the carried the stick . at this point, you got to pull out a lot more care than you do well and not to, to mention it. if we look at the supply chain constraints that we are seeing worldwide with ports being backed up and the like, especially ahead of what is going to be a busy holiday season. as inflation ramps up. i mean, it's hard to see how adding any more tariffs or any more economic woes into that is going to help the american people. right? oh no, no, no, right. and then that's of course also includes the, you know, you conduct what happened from there. and now ben, before we go, i went ahead, i one more topic the as far as talking about us china relations, we have seen some de escalation of tension between the us and china with the

deferment of prosecution. give me one joe, while way. is that helping improve the relationship? how much, how important is that for the chinese counterparts here? well i think that's very important. login with all the issues that have taken place . we're that we're talking about with what's going on, what i want, what's happening with us and chinese trade and, and you know, the, the phase one deal and who's buying what? but the idea that the trumpet ministration had ratcheted up to the point of having mean long though detained in canada, they wanted to bring charges against the f. b. i had gone to this whole process of entrapment of trying to get her to sit a with canadian authorities talking to them while they search your laptop and there's a whole mess associated here. and so the idea that they have a deferred prosecution there, i think that's a good sign. china released a couple of political prisoners. they were holding at the same time, sent them back to the united states contractors who were in china. that's a positive you wanna, you want to move past those things because when you start ratcheting up to the point where people are being held against their will by one country in order to get

some kind of economic response from another country, it only gets worse from there, so to, to step back from those issues, i think is a pretty important step boom bus. spend swan face. so it's for analysis. and all of this, thank you. as politicians and business leaders warned of catastrophe of the united states were to fail to raise its debt limit. the senate has reached a barb, bipartisan agreement to temporarily avoid default. senate majority leader, chuck schumer announced thursday he had reached a deal with his republican counterpart. mitch mcconnell for an extension. moving into december during a conversation with president joe biden, wednesday the chief executives of 2 of the nation's largest banks, sounded the alarm over the economic impact of failing to raise the debt ceiling. we need to resolve this issue very quickly. every day of delay right now comes at an increasing price as we become to see and the market. so right, a starting last friday,

america simply cannot default on the debt because the us treasury market is the bedrock of our financial system, domestic lee and globally actual default, actual default would be unprecedented. we, the things we know that it would do are very bad. and it could be potentially far worse, the effect would be cascading. so day one would be bad, but the cash gain effects and issuing weeks could go anywhere from a recession to a complete catastrophe for the global economy. and i don't know why anyone will take a chance, like the temporary deal now sets the stage for a contentious holiday season as congress will have to come to terms with an extension to the debt ceiling and to fund the government to avoid another shut down . meanwhile, as news of the proposed deal broke us equities were up for thursday. the 3 major indexes the tao s and p $500.00 and tech heavy nasdaq. we're all up around one percent looking at 3 straight days of growth. the consumer discretionary industrial

and financial sectors, each saw significant gaves jody's. now to take a look at thursdays, market movement is michelle schneider. she is a partner and director of trading research and education for the market gates group . always a pleasure to have you on michelle. now, market seems to be popping, especially earlier on this deal, but in reality it seems, congress is just for lack of a better term taking the came down the road here. does this set up market for a roller coaster at the end of the year as we look into november december? well, definitely it does set it up. we've already kind of been in a bit of a roller coaster. and if you just step back and look at the markets over the last few months, we've kind of been range valley hit july lowes and bounced a little bit particularly in nasdaq. and yet we still have a lot of overhead resistance. but stepping back, i think the timing on december is so interesting because we have a lot that's going to happen between now and then to add to the roller coaster you

have the holiday season upon us will be through black friday, which of course is always telling and we're entering the winter where many people are predicting we can see yet another surgeon, the virus. so it's going to come down to these politicians, whether they want to be the hero or the villain were still airing on the side of some level of negotiation. and some kind of deal that will be met in advance. but it's really, we know that all politicians have a little bit of both hero and villain, so it'll be interesting to see what happens by them. but i would certainly be i don't want to use the word cautious because price rules more than anything, but i would be frosty, when you made a great point, is that after the black friday season. but if, say you're one of the hundreds of thousands of government employees who is concerned about a shut down as well, you made out, would it be spending big money when you're moving into black friday? when you know, in just a couple of weeks, the government could shut down. now we also heard from the ceo of city bank at jp

morgan. there, are there concerns valid about a possible debt default, even if it is pushed back into december? well, there was always a level of hyperbole, but basically their jobs, both diamond and jane fraser that bite and spoke to them about how to put pressure on the republicans to not wait to the last minute so that nobody including the mark is going to be particularly nervous about a default, and whether not they're going to be successful or not is remains to be seen. well, what's interesting here is that the republicans want to avoid a filibuster by the democrats, and what they want is what they call a budget reconciliation. which basically means that the democrats all want that issue settled now, and the republicans want to wait. so as they go into next year, they have a good talking point for the mid term elections. so it's really kind of up here. we are united states, it's people, and the markets and the economy sort of caught in the middle. and we'll see whether

or not these ceos have any kind of influence for public sentiment to supported passing sooner rather than later. of course, we know that senate republicans at a certain point also wanted to make sure that debt ceiling was disconnected from the budget was disconnected from extending averting the government shutdown because they want an up or down vote strictly on that. so like you said, they can go back to their constituents, come the mid term elections and say, well, we didn't vote for that. they did. that's the way it works. now, going back to the concerns heading into the holidays, we're seeing a record backlog of container ships off port here in the united states. investors have this on their radar as well. oh, well, definitely what's, what's so interesting is that, you know, what's going on right now is that we have the whole notion of oil. and this really smacks a lot of what's happened in the 19 seventy's and that oil was sort of the x factor . and we had lots of different disruptions including the oil embargo. and from

there we also had some political unrest. yes, we know nixon wound up resigning, we had the vietnam war winding down. and at the same time, we had easy monetary policy which of course and fuel this hyperinflation. so if we, when we fast forward now to, to this time, we have the co bid as sort of what's really here, a new x factor because oil is rising with the supply chain issues. and natural gas is rising, which is affecting food prices. so we think that this can really affect the bottom line for a lot of companies in terms of their profits going into queue. we 3 raising prices and also with the labor, even though we have jobs number coming out tomorrow. i don't expect a huge surge in the labor forces we're going, but we can talk a little bit more specifically on the supply chain. if you're with michelle federal, margaret, we will do it next time because unfortunately, we are out of time or shelter of the market to thank you so much. and i'm now for

a quick break. but when we come back, el salvador continues to thinker with its adoption of big point as legal, tender the i m. f, has warned a further crypto adoption in developing nation straight ahead. we discussed the latest concern coming from the institution as we get a break for those numbers at the close. i'm a new key on the internet. the allows all the problems and much was about to invite everybody's lloyd. that wasn't good. that was the feature that the people who designed the internet is all in. as a feature divide administration's decision to leave afghanistan was correct and

long overdue. however, the way america longest war ended is a different question. it was a bond to fair. the generals will most likely never be held to account, put alone marine, lieutenant colonel does face court martial. is this justice with the welcome back. in the wake of a wave of perceived crypto currency, scams and illegal activities, the department of justice has launched a new bureau to tackle crimes in the space. the office named the national crypto currency enforcement team will use its experience in the field of money laundering

and asset recovery. according to the d o j. the announcement comes as crypto payments are becoming the norm for ransomware tax and have rocked the us in recent month. although the agency has been officially launched as of this week, still searching for someone to had the task force. meanwhile, the international monetary fund recently took issue with what they call a crypto with zation of local economy. they say the implementation of crypto currency in emerging markets could eventually affect financial stability in the already teetering economy. crypto has grown in popularity and emerging and developing countries over the last year. with the biggest story being of course el salvador, the adoption of bitcoin is legal, tender. the math like in the so called crypto is ation to those economies using a foreign currency. typically the us dollar, this is called dollarization. in addition to or instead of the nation's domestic currency, the fund says these practices stand in the way of the nation's ability to implement

affective monetary policy. the io math instead suggested these nations look at central bank digital currencies instead of traditional the centralized crypto. for more on this, let's bring in our we might have the managing partner with the block chain founders fund ali. always a pleasure to talk to you about these issues. now we've talked about the i m f. 's concern about crypto adoption quite a bit, especially in the wake about salvador. but what do you make the assertion that this could destabilize these for lack of a better term, already to stabilize the economy? absolutely brand. so 1st off, thank you for having me back on the show. and the i m. s concerns stem predominantly around 3 items, control volatility and security. these concerns come up specifically when adopting a 3rd party privately issued currency or a public currency such as bitcoin block chain technology in the long run can replace national monies and conventional financial intermediation. so in short,

it can provide cheaper and faster payments, enhanced financial inclusion, improve resilience and competition among pavement providers and facilitate cross border payments. so alley, and that's a good point because i think that was especially important. know in el salvador, those cross border payments, the remittances, because there's huge fees when you're wiring funds through say, a western union. but when you do their big point, it's not as much correct so, so yes, bitcoin is a solution where it can be substantially lower. of course, there are still fairly significant gas fees at time. so depending if you're actually doing it on the bit coin network versus say, using wrapped currencies of the coin on another network. but you can still see some significant fees with big coin. but over time we do expect that to become more efficient. and of course, there's things like the lightning network that help to actually provide low cost,

very low cost, essentially transactions on the big coin network and are the central bank digital currencies that the i m f suggest instead, are they really the answer or do they kind of defeat the purpose of having a decentralized currency that isn't really tied or tethered to the nation's economy . now i think this really depends on the specific implementation of the c, d, c, and the goals of the nation developing it. so most nations, in my view, wouldn't necessarily be looking to a fully decentralized currency as their implementation of a cbc, and hints or hinder their central bank monetary policy toolkit. now they're been burying proposals on implementation. a common one that we're seeing is that of a 2 tiered system in which commercial banks issue the cdc to the public and would then offer wallets an account to interact with them. in this way, it resembles a paypal account where the cbc is used as

a universal unit of account. now there's still plenty of benefits to this such as access that instant settlement. however, there's also downside such as privacy concerns. so keep in mind that this doesn't really address the expansion of the money supply. and i want to actually, i know there's a lot that we can actually discuss in that particular topic. but i want to transition a little bit here because i know you and i have actually talked about this quite a bit off the air. so often we get caught up in talking about crypto currency price movement and don't focus on the underlying technology of block chain and how it can be used across so many industries. and recently there's actually been a movement in what is called plate earned. i know you're involved in this space. so 1st of all, kind of explain this to the audience for a sally. yeah, absolutely. now this is been one of the most popular areas in the block chain space today. and we're talking about inclusive business and gaming model that provides financial benefits to all of the players who add value by participating and

contributing to the game ecosystem. gamers have ownership over in game assets so they can increase their value by actively playing the game. we can look at this in the context of renting a home versus buying a home. so if you were to rent a home, you would spend significantly last, perhaps a 1000 or $2000.00 per month renting a place. however, if you buy, you might actually spend $500000.00 or a $1000000.00 to purchase the home. so this is actually similar to, to gaming where you don't own the asset versus if you actually own the asset. so you might spend 10 times or $100.00 times more to own a gaming asset that you can generate rental income from and have acid appreciation . and so i explain this, i'm a gamer and i even have a hard time wrap my head around this. what type of assets in a game are we talking about here? so it can be all sorts of things. it can be your store, your potions, you know,

your cards, like if it's, if it's sort of a card based game, it could be, you know, any sort of rare, legendary, any of those types of items. and imagine being able to own it. you would actually spend a lot more so in your typical commonly played games, you don't actually own those assets. they're owned by the company that created it. and therefore, you would maybe spend $1020.00 when you're playing the game. but if you actually own that asset and then you could rent it out, you might actually generate pretty significant income from that asset. and, but you'd be willing to spend a lot more in the game to actually acquire that asset. and how, you know, why is the block chain so important for this is just the immutable ledger where you can actually keep track on. so i think the immutable ledger is, is one part i think it's, you know, ensuring that you've got assets that are tracked that you know, it is the original asset. you know, it's, you know, accepted by, you know, whatever game you're playing, for example. and this is really been a seismic shift,

i think, happening in the space that we're seeing today. and do we see this, you know, with gaming becoming increasingly popular. i mean, over the last several decades is just exploded. why haven't we seen or what they're going to take for a block chain base game, or even for the big aaa developers to actually bring in a block chain to use in their games? i think we're already starting to see this go mainstream and, and i'll explain this, right. so in the past decade we've seen free to play gaming, gain massive market share in the gaming industry. now we're seeing it with play to earn led by, you know, companies like actually infinity and splinter lots. i'll give you an example in free to play gaming 2.2 percent of users ever actually pay to play the game in play to earn for example, in splinter lines, we're seeing that number closer to 80 percent, and they are active every single day. so we're seeing over 330000

a day. the active users and recently splintered lines became the top block chain game, a coordinate leading ranking site. tap radar. absolutely, i apologize. i have to cut you off. we have 50 seconds left of the show. i appreciate it, so i will finish this conversation soon. i might have to have the blocks and founders fun. thank you so much. thank you for having me. and that's it for the thought you could get both on demand on portable t v. we will see you next time. mm hm. with

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