i want you to just talk on your parents for a 2nd because g is you're both. i've met both is adults and a nice guy normal just like human beings, you want to meet. and i always think back to rance g, and i go, i never met them, but they must have been cracker. jack parents tell me a little about bottom, that, you know, they were remarkable, were unbelievably blessed to have been their, their boys. and by the way, the title of the book is, is also a nod to our mom because that's what she, that's what you call all of us were her boys, the boys. so there, so there you go, you know, without, they didn't come from highly dysfunctional. tragic families, but they were the exception to the family rule. they had the vision, they had big dreams, they had no right to believe they could possibly make it in show business. and yet they changed the course of the family history. and this and the story by following

that dream kind of pell mell, helter skelter, never shared, worked out. lo and behold, the did so were the beneficiaries of all that. but the one thing that i looked at in going delving into the book were these crossroads and for some reason they really make good decisions. you know, i'm sure the parents were scared to death when they ran off together to go to new york to try to be in the show business. but i'm, i'm sure they mortified them. in fact, i know it did, but they were even right about that. it turns out, and i think when they're batting average, is that good? you gotta say sure there's an element of lock, but there's also some innate sense of what is going to be right for them and, and, and we benefited from that. yeah. let's just say that one, rance and jane reached the fork in the road. they were able to discern the subtle notes coming off the time in the work,

and take the right the take the right junction. it certainly can be tricky, but i also a karma believer, i think their hearts are in the right place. so i'm just. busy i don't know, it's a great story here and heartbreak stories and i always look and think, wow, god bless took their kids, let an exciting like let a normal life and their grounded so it's a win on all counts. you boys are so demure in some way. i don't see anybody chest, something all that much. everybody has an in a humility that probably comes from grants in june. but why the book now? did you feel in some way clinton was in march to them. we yeah, listen it, we landed on the idea that it was a love letter to mom and dad and we really, we came up with the idea actually ron initially kind of had the idea to write a book because he'd been approached by my publishers to write a book and we why we wanted to really dive deep into our

story and you know, mom and dad story, we had heard about it, but we hadn't really ever gone deep. and boy, i wish i would have known them when they were in the early twenty's. that's my one take away from working on the book is, is, you know, 1st of all they had no business doing what they did, and yet they did it without fear. they did it with dignity and, and on top of that they raised us which, you know, i am, i'm ultimately so grateful to be the kids of rance and g. howard, you know, they knew how to dust themselves off when they got knocked down by this business over and over again. ah, and i think we learned by example, i know at, as i began to have more and more success, i could recognize that my dad wasn't guilt tripping me. over that he was supportive of that he was enabling it, making all of it possible. and yet he never gave up on his dream, his career, which was going out there a couple of times a week,

sitting around in your audition room, taken your best shot and about one out of 10 time landing a gig. and you know, you, you, you develop calluses but he didn't that never, he, that never led to cynicism. you know, to further answer your question dennis neutral, pow tom hanks once answered a question of mine. he's a good writer and people have been coming me about doing, you know, and autobiography more and i said, what do you think you think that's something i really ought to do, tom? and he said probably one day. yeah. but if i were you, i would focus entirely on your childhood because that's the thing we're all curious about. you know, how the hell did you navigate it? why did you land on your feet and what was it like? and so, during our dad when we were preparing for dads memorial, putting it that together, that's why i really broached the idea to clint, because i said, while their story is fresh, why don't we tell it and why don't we tell it through this lynn's?

it's so many people are curious about which is what you know, what our journey was all about. and so we have the nostalgia, the fun of those stories, the insights of in terms of all the social change and that we witnessed but, but at the end of the day, the answer to the question is, we were lucky to be these people, kids. that's how we did it. i think what are the nicest things that you can obviously bleed over into your children's life? everybody talks incessantly about sibling rivalry. i think on the flip side of the coin, there is sibling chivalry, where at some point you lock antlers over the course of your life. but it's your beloved brother. you take care of them, your family, and you to of always seeing. i don't know that fondness i find to be intoxicating, and i know it's not all up here. people, but hedge cries, that's life. but i'm saying by and large at the end of the day, i can always imagine our boys as jane would say, having their brothers back. well,

i tell you why. i was in no better position in life than to be his little brother. and you know, again, i talked about this in a voice. my very 1st memory that i, that i really can hold on to is, is waking up in the morning with ron being all 5 years older than me. obviously that has never changed, but he would read the l 8 time sports section and read the box scores. and with me on his back laying in the hallway in front of the wall heater, you would tell me about the dodger games. and it developed a lifelong love for baseball and a lifelong love for my brother. and i got to say that i, you know, my, my parent i was born with my dad was in the air force mediately, after, you know, they started, it went back into, into show business. he had been working prior to, to going into the air force. and when he got out went right back into making the rounds and scratching out a living which involved travelling round

a different theatre companies and summer stock and this fat in the other. so when i was in a situation where i was going to have a younger brother, i was delighted by it, you know, and it turned out that clint was born, you know, with a twinkle in his eye, a raised eyebrow, a smirk on his face, and a sense of humor and mouth, but he always found him very entertaining. and he was really, he was a really good company and it was easy to love them. no, no, that's what i know. clint was crowning. he had a rejoinder, ready for the doctor already as the, as he hit the ground. right? yeah. in the room. what repose as he 1st came out into this room, were talking to the bank the back thank you very much. there you go. we're talking to our was their delight. as i said, i've met clint and ron over the years singularly,

i don't think i've ever talked on together. i've always find them to be hail fellows well met. and i can't wait to read this book. the boys, a memoir of hollywood and family, i'm trying to think. i run a little younger than me, but i'm trying to think it was a willy, tommy david, sweet lu johnson, who are you read? who is in the box scores when you are reading the young clip? it go, well, yeah, i know it was that group in co co faction wells and you know, i love drysdale, tommy davis. yeah. sweet lou, when he came up as a 31 or 32 year old rookie and lit up, jim brewer throwing that throwing the group ball. and ron parent ascii, the dodgers had a great team back then. they didn't hit many home runs, but they won. they wanted a couple of world series. i always envied the giants, but we managed to get there. you didn't want to dig in on the big double day. my man could throw the, he could throw the fell drysdale, but he did not. oh man, you know what and you know, it's funny to me off the quarter for a 2nd,

but i just have to say, i was recently reading a book about the doris day and i had no idea her maury were para moore's for a while. more and i didn't know that either. i love that every now and i go when was, when was wonder i in this in this year. i wonder if i wonder if the big deal would have been a 2 way player. you know, he led the dodgers one year with the 3. 0 one batting average and he's 7 homers. they used to pinch hit him every chance they got. yeah. yeah, he could hit it to folks. i'm talking ball and i've been on a bit of a baseball trip with ronnie for a few days. it was so funny to me, run it because i don't. i obviously know you it. well, we'll talk about the open stuff like that after. but i remember the 1st time we're on the bus, we're dr. and hanks, and he and i, and a couple great writers law was a bob lou man down law gans a, you know, just a great group of people and jim and we're talking vol. ronnie dropped the f bomb

just talking about something and i saw jesus idea who was header was skipping a rock to step bomb me. i can't believe i will talk more with the howard brothers once again. the book is the boys, and it is a memoir of hollywood and family indeed, clint ron howard right after this one, dennis miller plus one. ah, when europe is mentioned, what do you think a place an idea, a commonplace with diverging ideas? maybe you think of the european union, think what you wish, but europe is in crisis. it must choose between being in ideological construct or a place with real people. and we'll meet with

ah, these people learn from their own experience. how vulnerable of business is to the bank. so you push my business over, the age, pushes me right to the edge, bankruptcy. now i realize we will good. this isn't just the back that may be involved in this is the concept. see, funds is, is the lawyers, these people have got you want all their stories at a walk kind of whistleblower. tell people's marriages. have broken up,

has lost their family homes and it is spectacularly devastating for people's lives . they have committed suicide, but left behind north. the explicitly state that it was the constant intimidation and billing by buying coffee sauce that late them to i talked a spy is obscene. these people up nor sold. when i see black merger, i see part of myself when i was growing young. black american spoke to me when white australia did not go through side black marsh magic is a movement we are importing from america. no, nothing of who we are. i lived in a world where white lodge mattered and i was not wide like ms. newman

and i wasn't known from black america. i learned how to speak back to whitefish aboriginal people of iraq more every day. we are out more than system now with the police were out with she states, i'm scared that more children are going to grow up in the country that think says no racism, but they're more likely to end up in the criminal justice system. then there are other fellow friends in daycare. ah hey folks. welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we're talking to ron and clint howard. they've written a memoir called the boys, a memoir of hollywood family. obviously the 1st time i see ronnie is on a andy show and i think she, clint, they're the 1st time to lose a little boy walking. i walk here 3 or 5 times or whenever it's also the 1st time i ever saw jack nicholson, who?

francis bobby a jury duty and they want to send somebody up the river. it's the young gent liens that ago. thank you. and me for old out. it's like playing henry pond and 12 angry mayberry i it's the 1st time you see a lot of things, the vibe of the show, the man i read the g must have been so happy because it's just made berries and id, fix it in my head. it's such a beautiful place to be going to get to get into it. gig least is not in a scream, or i know what you did last summer. film is nice place. no, it was good. there was great, good fortune. and, you know, there's a story that, that we, that i write about in the boys, which is that very early on, my dad had the temerity to say to andy griffith, look, i see how they're writing or the andy opi relationship. it's your basic sit. com, where the kids, the why, and he's somehow kind of smarter than the dad. what if you did something different?

you know what if o p actually respected his father? you think you could? i think you could still find some comedy there and people might find it refreshing . and andy appreciated dad they, they had a lot in common, had seen him sort of parenting me and nodded. and went to the writers and said, let's, let's model this relationship after rants and ronnie and, and it really changed the course of the show and the tone of what that relationship was. why, but it was a blast. dennis, i'll tell you. i was allowed to be involved in a creative process that was lead in large part by andy with great cooperation with the, with the head writer and producer, aaron ruben. but after a read through, all the actors would get to throw in their $0.02, raise a raise, a raise, a flag around a line or a behavior and attitude, a joke. and i got to witness this. and even in that 1st year when i was only 6 and

my dad was having to read my part for me because i couldn't the site re i once in a while tried to make a point, tried to tried to golfer note. i was a little chagrined, they never, they never accepted any of my ideas. but in the 2nd episode of the 2nd season, we were rehearsing in the courthouse. and my job is to walk in and say, hey paul, something i can't remember the line was, but i stopped and the director bob sweeney said why he's stopping ronnie? and i said why, i don't think a kid would say it that way. why do you think a kid would say it? and i said well, like this, and i pitched my little rewrite and he said good say say the line that way let's, let's rehearse it again. let's go. and i remember feeling this wave of appreciation of engagement. you know, and, and, and excitement creative excitement and i was standing there and from across from across the sheriff's office at andy said what do you grinning at young?

and i said, well that's the 1st idea of mine. you've taken any, gave it the proper timing and said, well, it was the 1st one that was any damn good. now let's rehearse the theme. and i was so blessed. so bless, to be in that environment and you know, it's informed everything that i've done since then. and the way i like to work the way, you know, the, the respect for, you know, realizing the potential of a scene. whatever the tone, whether it's playful and it's for the grinch stole christmas or, or something you know, apollo, 13 or beautiful mind, or rush or, or frost next know that's late in their deep and people can talk about carmen. all they want. i understand. he'll knock down a per diem as well, but that's a great directors know, getting late in the even earlier age where you thought, oh, i got listen to i'm sure throughout your life when young hanks or somebody says something, you think i have to listen to this we're all pulling this both together. i have to listen to this. now when you come in and you,

you learn the ways of the set there and you must ho, this is a pretty group said i'm wondering then you go over. and clint, by the way, one of the pre eminent character actors of our time over 200 roles. but i think the 1st time i remember him on the small tube is with the big bear over on gentle ben. and i'm wondering, i was the set is convivial was the set is the. busy what are you, what are your remembrances of that client? well, you know, it was a different kind of set than the andy griffith show. we worked our tails off doing half hour television in 3 days. wow. so we didn't have the time to sit around and chit chat, it was just shoot one scene after the other. and pulling that bear around by his chain was no easy task. they were outside all the time. when or i would go to visit, you know, people get eaten up with mosquitoes. it was, it was hotter than hell. and yet, and, but they were, you know, they were getting it done. it was, it was the work ethic. i mean, because we had to, we were grinders general been we were working at

a really fast pace and i was, i was in heaven because i was there with dad. dad was working on the show. he played henry boom, our dentist weaver side kick, who by the way, dennis weaver, who played my dad in general, ben was the fellow that introduced mom and dad to each other at the university of oklahoma 25 years before. so it, you know, that is sort of a remarkable erie thing, but i loved working on general ben and i also got to watch dad. dad was in his prime. he was, he was writing, he was acting with dennis. and he was standing up for what he believed in. for instance, early in the 1st season of general been script started going down the pipe here where been had dialog. i'm talking about scripted frigging dialogue like the bear who were that were and that was a nonstarter for us, howard's, you know and,

and dad, dad put down his foot. those paw and dennis of course, who had been chester. it was an emmy winning actor and a and a big star. he darted, you know, the dual. it was about what a reaction a dual came right after that. but, but he had enough, he believed in dad. they worked, put their heads together and, and dennis had the juice to sort of nip things in the bud. like talking bears he, i'll tell you why dennis. one thing about dad. he was fearless without being blustery, without being a flamboyant or a grade or a bully. about it, dad would look people in the eye and get his point across and it wasn't necessarily what he said. it was the way, said it, dad was so effective at communicating now, isn't that funny that, that such one of the great tenets of acting is grab your space though your lives, and then don't bring in at the behalf. vienna to max out what your characters

saying and listening to and then saying again in any given moment. so when you say he stood his ground and that that, that, that is one of the core tenants. i believe, of a great actor. make your choice, get it right and you go with it at that point. and, and, and his kids, the really remarkable thing is, you know, he was, he wasn't in that is because he thought we should be child stars and, and, and, and, you know, and put the bank away. he, he, he felt like it was a learning opportunity and later in life, when i said to him, once, clinton i were grown. and, and, you know, i said, dad, everybody in the business knows how much you factored into. you know, our effectiveness as kid actors. why don't you open a school? why don't you do? i want to know. great, you know? and he said, i'm, i'm a, after i don't, i said i didn't, i don't want to be, i don't want to teach kids how to act. i taught you guys because i'm your father and i had something to offer in and i and i saw that you know,

that you had aptitude. yes. and whether you stayed in the business or not, i felt like get a chance to learn how to succeed and take that with you into whatever walk a life you would choose to. to take, you know, ronnie, i just read a great book about the making of sunday in the park with george and the, the great, the musical about george, you're out, the point, listen. and so many of the actors in this oral history did not plant the flag, not everybody's hanks, not everybody's russell crowe. there's, there's working actors. and as they talked about their craft, i had goosebumps, they, whatever part they'd given in this book. they wanted to make it great, and they found the nugget of truth in it's like hemingway say, right? one true line. and, you know, they found their one true line and they followed it through. and i thought, you know, that's why people are intoxicated by acting people, sleep, walk, and half through life. when these people get in it, they don't have to be up at the somebody's got to boil water at the 5th base camp

for the people to strike the summit. and they were also joyous about, i said, no wonder people intoxicated. it's the magic kingdom, isn't it? yeah, yeah, well my parents loved it and of course they didn't reach that sort of their, the dreams that probably fueled them to leave a little town in oklahoma called duncan or the farm. their dad grew up on in, in oklahoma and tried to pursue it. i mean, hell, you know, my dad, my dad went to try to be gene autry or a roger. he thought he could be a sing and cowboy. nobody told me, couldn't carry a fricking tune to save his life. i mean, i thank god but you know, buddy, you know, he had the guts to go mom had the dream and while they didn't ever fully realize that, you know, they, they were also proud of themselves. that they were making a living at this. and they never depended on our salaries. you know, you know, managers fee is 15 percent. once they started taking a fee,

they took 5 percent because they felt like the other 2 thirds was just in the parents job. the, you know, and they, we lived, we lived in the house, a dad could afford, that was very clear, our money got saved for us in a very healthy way, which, which we're very grateful for. so, you know, we just got unbelievably lucky that these people had this common sense to make, as i said, sort of one big decision, you know, after another, hey, one other good old thing. both of them, both of them. once my mom went back to acting and as my dad continued to age, they contain their parts, got better and better. in the last 2 years of my dad's wife, he had the best roles of his career. so there you go. if you keep grinding, i absolutely, and mom was one of the highlights, have apollo 13. yeah. you know, mom playing grandma level and apollo 13, she lives in the large strong and says,

are you what this phase program do? i didn't know that. so great, beautiful. so the, the rental gene making hitchcock in cameos, and all the films and listen, is there any more? is there any better gifted as you look at these 2 young men? you can tell that they're fine people. is there any greater legacy than iran? i can look at me and say, my dad left our money for us and we lived in our house. she could afford folks, you can talk about all the noble gestures in your life. you can talk about greatness. what is greatness? i'm saying when you have 2 sons like this, and they think back on that moment and they think back on the mother being and dominant and calling them the boys and rallying the family. that is the greatest gift that is, that is true greatness in life. forget the movies, forget the awards, forget the followers. all that is when he can look back and go, my dad did the right thing by us. and so did my mom folks, you've lived the greatest life you can live at that point. i'm so happy to hear

that story, right? yeah. you truly are bless brother and has nothing to do. although i got to save beautiful my. and i'm still the russell through the phone downtown or what the hell he was thinking he should have one back to back for that. you know, he was killer and absolutely killer. alright. bower boys dead. right. the book is the boys a memoir and nice to see 2 cats. i hope we break bread sometimes. are good people a pleasure. yeah. good talking to you. yeah. dennis study well, are you glad? i'm glad you're happy over there. bed yet. the ball hard. right? yeah. yeah, i know it's beautiful and really cathartic, really cathartic to work on this book. and it really did, made me extra gratefully, really did dennis. it's the circle of life simba, good to talk to catch a bye bye. i. if i right, yeah. well, that is really good

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