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and the interesting runs the successful actor director, producer, known for blockbuster films, like apollo 13 and the, the pre shooting on the vomit comet. also, beautiful mind. i'm so the crow got rob for that issue. the thrown the phone and the da vinci code, clint character actor who's appeared over 200 tv shows and films including water. boy paula 13. my name is earl, and together the brothers howard have written a book about their remarkable lives called the boys love the title, a memoir of hollywood family, currently available in bookstores and online. this is clinton, ron howard. how are you, boyce? we're well dennis, it's good to talk to you. yeah it's, it's wonderful to talk to you again dennis. well, listen i, you know, i want you to just talk on your parents for a 2nd because g is you're both. i met both as adults and a nice guy normal, just like human beings. you want to meet. and i always think back to rance g,
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and i go, i never met them, but they must have been cracker. jack parents tell me a little about a bottom that they were remarkable were unbelievably blessed to have been their, their boys. and by the way, the title of the book is, is also a nod to our mom because that's what she, that's what she call all of us were her boys, the boys. so there, so there you go, you know, without, they didn't come from highly dysfunctional. tragic families, but they were the exception to the family rule. they had vision, they had big dreams, they had no right to believe they could possibly make it in show business. and yet they changed the course of the family history in this, in the story by following that dream kind of pell mell, helter skelter, never sure worked out. lo and behold, the did so were the beneficiaries of all that. but the one thing that i looked at
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in going delving into the book were these crossroads and for some reason they really make good decisions. you know, i'm sure the parents were scared to death when they ran off together to go to new york to try to be in the show business. but i'm, i'm sure they mortified them. in fact, i know it did, but they were even right about that. it turns out, and i think when they're batting average, is that good? you gotta say sure there's an element of lock, but there's also some innate sense of what is going to be right for them and, and, and we benefited from that. yeah, let's just say that one ranch and gene reach the fork in the road. they were able to discern the subtle notes coming off the time in the work and take the right the take the right junction. it's certainly can be tricky, but i also carbo believer. i think their hearts are in the right place. so i'm just,
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i don't know. it's a great story. you know, heartbreak stories and i always look and think, wow, god bless took their kids. let an exciting, like, let a normal life and their grounded, so it's a win on all counts. you boys are so demure in some way. i don't see anybody chest, something all that much. everybody has an in a humility that probably comes to rance in june. but why the book now, did you feel in some way, clinton was an omar to them. we yeah, listen it. we landed on the idea that it was a love letter to mom and dad. and we really, we came up with the idea actually ron initially kind of had the idea to write a book because he's been approached by, by publishers to write a book. and we, why we wanted to really dive deep into our story and in your mom and dad's story, we had heard about it, but we hadn't really ever gone deep. and boy, i wish i would have known them when they were in the early twenty's. that's my one
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take away from working on the book is, is, you know, 1st of all they had no business doing what they did, and yet they did it without fear. they did it with dignity and, and on top of that they raised us which, you know, i am, i'm ultimately so grateful to be the kids of ransom g howard, you know, they knew how to dust themselves off when they got knocked down by this business over and over again, ah, and i think we learned by example, i know at, as i began to have more and more success, i could recognize that my dad wasn't guilt tripping me. over that he was supportive of that he was enabling it, making all of it possible. and yet he never gave up on his dream, his career, which was going out there a couple of times a week, sitting around in audition room, taken your best shot and about one out of 10 times landing a gig. and you know, you, you, you develop calluses but he didn't,
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that never eat that. never lead to cynicism. you know, to further answer your question, dennis, a mutual power tom hanks once answered a question of mine. he's a good writer and people have been coming me about doing a, you know, an autobiography or more. and i said you, what do you think? do you think that's something i really ought to do, tom? and he said probably one day. yeah. but if i were you, i would focus entirely on your childhood because that's the thing we're all care serious about. you know, how the hell did you navigate it? why did you land on your feet and what was it like? and so during our dad when we were preparing for dads memorial, putting that together, that's why i really broached the idea to clint, because i said, while their story is fresh, why don't we tell it and why don't we tell it through this lynn's that so many people are curious about which is what you know, what our journey was all about. and so we have the nostalgia, the fun of those stories,
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the insights in terms of all the social change and that we witnessed but, but at the end of the day, the answer, the question is we were lucky to be these people, kids. that's how we did it. i think what are the nicest things that you can obviously bleed over into your children's life? everybody talks incessantly about sibling rivalry. i think on the flip side of the coin, there is sibling chivalry, where at some point you lock antlers over the course of your life. but it's your beloved brother. you take care of them, your family, and you too have always seen who. i don't know that fondness i find to be intoxicating, and i know it's not all up here. people, but hedge cries, that's life. but i'm saying by and large at the end of the day, i can always imagine the howard boys as gene would say, having their brothers back. well, i tell you why. i was in no better position in life than to be his little brother. and you know, again, i talked about this in a voice. my very 1st memory that i,
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that i really can hold onto is, is waking up in the morning with ron being all 5 years older than me. obviously that has never changed, but he would read the l a times sports section and read the box scores. and with me on his back laying in the hallway in front of the wall heater, you would tell me about the dodger games. and it developed a lifelong love for baseball and a lifelong love for my brother. and i got to say that i, you know, my, my parent i was born one of my dad was in the air force immediately after, you know, they started, it went back into, into show business. he had been working prior to, to going into the air force. and when he got out went right back into hit making the rounds and scratching out a living which involved traveling round a different theatre companies and summer stock and this fat in the other. so when i was in a situation where i was going to have a younger brother, i was delighted by it, you know, and it turned out that clint was born with
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a twinkle in his eye, a raised eyebrow, a smirk on his face, and a sense of humor, and bless you, i've always found him very entertaining and he was really, he was a really good company and it was easy to love them. now that's what i know clinton was crowning. he had a rejoinder, ready for the doctor already as he, as he hit the ground. right? yeah. in the room. what reposed as he 1st came out into this room were talking to the bank the back thank you very much. there you go. we're talking about our voice, their delight, as i said, i've met clint and ron over the years singularly, i don't think i've ever talked on together. i've always find them to be hail fellows well met. and i can't wait to read this book. the boys, a memoir of hollywood and family. i'm trying to think, ronnie, you're
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a little younger than me, but i'm trying to think it was willy, tommy david, sweet lou johnson, who are you read who is in the box scores when you are reading a young class? it well, yeah, i know it was that group in co co faction wells and, you know, i love drysdale, tommy davis. yeah. sweet lou, when he came up as a 31 or 32 year old rookie and lit up, jim brewer throwing, throwing the group ball and ron parent on sky. the dodgers had a great team back then. they didn't hit many home runs, but they one, they wanted a couple of world series. it was in the giants, but we managed to get there. you didn't want to do again on big double day. my man could throw the, he could throw the pellet drysdale, but he did not all, man, you know what? and you know, it's funny to me after the course for a 2nd, but i just have to say, i was recently reading a book about the doris day and i had no idea her and maury were a para moore's for
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a while. more. yeah, i didn't know that either. i love that. amen. now. when was when? wal hey, i wonder i in this in this year i wonder if i wonder, a big di would have been a 2 way player. you know, he led the dodgers one year with a $3.00 oh $1.00 batting average and it's 7 homers. they used to pinch hit him every chance they got. yeah. yeah, he could hit it to folks. i'm talking ball and i've been on a bit of a baseball trip with rodney for a few days. it was so funny to me, rhonda, because i don't. i obviously know you. well, we'll talk about the open stuff like that after. but i remember the 1st time we're on the bus, we drive and hanks, and he and i and a couple great writers low was above a man down low gans a, you know, just great group of people. and jim and we're talking vol. ronnie dropped the f bomb just talking about something and i saw jesus idea who header was shipping a rock just step for me. i can't believe that. i will talk more with
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the howard brothers once again. the book is the boys, and it is a memoir of hollywood and family indeed clinton, ron howard right after this, and then as real are plus one. mm. these people learn from their own experience. how vulnerable of business is to the bank. so he pushes my business over, the age, pushes me right to the edge, bankruptcy. now i realize we will go, this isn't just the back that may be involved in this is the concept. see, firms is, is the lawyers. these people have got want other stories. ottawa kind of whistle blower tell people's marriages have broken up. it lost their family homes. it is spectacular. the devastating for people's lives. we have committed suicide,
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but left behind north, the explicitly state that it was the constant intimidation and billing by bank officers that late them to i talked to spear obscene these people up, nor sold and financial survival guide. stacy, let's learn about the allowed. let's say i'm it through i can and your great time, grief on base of the site. 9 wall street broad, thank you for helping with enjoy. that's right. fell out in depth, slavery ah, home and a surgeon's tactile perception as well as his or her eyesight helps
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a lot. because you need to make sure you don't break the thread well, placing the switches and robotic hands can't do that. not now, and i believe not ever. you can write self quiz to the machine, but you cannot give it a human tactile perception and a post. welcome back to dennis miller plus one. we're talking to ron and clint howard. i've written a memoir called the boys, a memoir of hollywood and family. obviously the 1st time i see ronnie is on a andy show and i think she, clint, they're the 1st time to lose a little boy walking or hunt. i walk here or you know, like 5 times or one episode. it's also the 1st time i ever saw jack nicholson, who? francis bobby, a saw jury duty and they want to send somebody up the river. it's at the end. young jack leans in a good. thank you with me for all the out. it's like playing henry pond and 12 angry mayberry i, it's in the ha, it's the 1st time you'll see
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a lot of things. the vibe of the show, the man i rance and gene must have been so happy because it's such as may berries, an id fixed in my head. it's such a beautiful place to begin to get you a hit into a dig least these not in a scream or i know what you did last summer, fill me sort of nice place. i know it was good. there was great, good fortune. and you know, there is a story there that we, that i write about in the boys, which is that very early on, my dad had the temerity to say to andy griffith, look, i see how they're writing or the andy opi relationship. it's your basic sit. com, where the kids, the white man, he's somehow kind of smarter than the dad. what if he did something different? you know what, have opie actually respected his father? you think you could, i think you could still find some comedy there and people might find it refreshing . and andy appreciated dad they, they had a lot in common,
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had seen him sort of parenting me and nodded. and went to the writers and said, let's, let's model this relationship after rants and ronnie and, and it really changed the course of the show and the tone of what that relationship was. why, but it was a blast. dennis, i'll tell you. i was allowed to be involved in a creative process that was lead in large part by andy with great cooperation with the, with the head writer and producer, aaron ruben. but after a read through, all the actors would get to throw in their $0.02, raise a raise, a raise, a flag around a line or a behavior and attitude. a joke. and i got to witness this. and even in that 1st year when i was only 6 and my dad was having to read my part for me because i couldn't the site re i once in a while tried to make a point, tried to tried to golfer note. i was a little chagrined, they never, they never accepted any of my ideas. but in the 2nd episode of the 2nd season,
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we were rehearsing in the courthouse. and my job is to walk in and say, hey paul, something i can't remember the line was, but i stopped and the director bob sweeney said why he's stopping ronnie? and i said why, i don't think a kid would say it that way. why do you think a kid would say it? and i said, well, like this, and i pitch my little rewrite and he said good say say the line that way let's, let's rehearse it again. let's go. and i remember feeling this wave of appreciation of engagement. you know, and, and, and excitement creative excitement and i was standing there and from across from across the sheriff's office at andy said what do you grinning at young? and i said, well that's the 1st idea of mine you've taken. and he gave it the proper timing and said, well, it was the 1st one that was any day, am good. now let's rehearse the scene. and i was so blessed. so blessed
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to be in that environment and you know, it's informed everything that i've done since then. and the way i like to work the way that, you know, the respect for, you know, realizing the potential of a scene. whatever the tone, whether it's playful and it's when the grinch stole christmas or, or something you know, a pallet 13 or beautiful mind, or rush or, or frost next. now that's late in their deep plan. people can talk about carmen. all they want, i understand it knocked down a per diem as well, but that's a great directors know. getting late in that even earlier age where you thought, oh, i got listen to, i'm sure throughout your life when young eggs or somebody says something you think i have to listen to this. we're all pulling this both together. i had to listen to this, not can you come in and you, you learn the ways of the set there and you must ho, this is a pretty group. he said, i'm wondering then you go over and clear by the way, one of the pre eminent character actors of our time over 200 roles. but i think the
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1st time i remember him on the small tube is with the big bear over on gentle ben. and i'm wondering, i was the set is convivial was the set is the. busy busy what are you, what are you remembrances of that, clint? well, you know, it was a different kind of set than the andy griffith show. we worked our tails off doing half hour television in 3 days. wow. so we didn't have the time to sit around and chit chat, it was just shoot one scene after the other. and pulling that bear around by his chain was no easy task. they were outside all the time. when or i would go to visit, you know, people get eaten up with mosquitoes. it was, it was hotter than hell. and yet, and, but they were, you know, they were getting it done. it was, it was the work ethic. i mean, because we had to, we were grinders general been we were working at a really fast pace and i was, i was in heaven because i was there with dad. dad was working on the show. he played henry boom, our dentist weaver side kick, who by the way, dennis weaver,
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who played my dad in general, ben was the fellow that introduced mom and dad to each other at the university of oklahoma 25 years before. so it, you know, that is sort of a remarkable erie thing, but i loved working on general ben and i also got to watch dad. dad was in his prime. he was, he was writing, he was acting with dennis. and he was standing up for what he believed in. for instance, early in the 1st season of gentle been script started going down the pipe here where been had dialogue. i'm talking about scripted frigging dialogue like the bear, who were that were and that was a nonstarter for us howards, you know and, and dad, dad put down his foot. those paw and dennis of course, who had been chester. it was an emmy winning actor and a big,
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starry darted. you know, the dual, it was about what they were actually a duel came right after that. but, but he had enough. he believed in dad. they worked, put their heads together and, and dennis had the juice to sort of nip things in the bud light, talking bears. hey, i'll tell you why dennis. one thing about dad. he was fearless without being blustery, without being a flamboyant organ or a bully about it. dad would look people in the eye and get his point across and it wasn't necessarily what he said. it was the way said it, dad was so effective at communicating. isn't that funny that, that such one of the great tenets of acting is grab your space though your lives, and then don't bring in at the behalf. vienna to max out what your characters saying and listening to and then saying again in any given moment. so when you say he stood his grandmother, that, that, that, that is one of the court tenants, i believe a great actor, make your choice, get it right. and you go with it at that point. and, and, and his kids,
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the really remarkable thing is, you know, he was, he wasn't in to this because he thought we should be child stars and, and, and, and, you know, and put the bank away. he, he, he felt like it was a learning opportunity and later in life, when i said to him, once clinton, i were grown at, you know, i said, dad, everybody in the business knows how much you factored into. you know, our effectiveness as kid actors. why don't you open a school? why don't you do? i want to know great, you know a and he said, i'm, i'm an actor. i don't, i said i, i didn't, i don't want to be, i don't want to teach kids how to act. i taught you guys because i'm your father and i had something to offer and, and i, and i saw that you know, that you had aptitude. yes. and whether you stayed in the business or not, i felt like you had a chance to learn how to succeed and take that with you into whatever walk a life you would choose to. to take, you know, ronnie, i just read
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a great book about the making of sunday in the park with george made a great the musical about george. sure. at the point the lesson. and so many of the actors in this oral history did not plant the flag, not everybody's hanks, not everybody's russell crowe. there's, there's working actors. and as they talked about their craft, i had goosebumps, they, whatever part they'd given in this book. they wanted to make it great, and they found the nugget of truth in it's like hemingway say, right? one true line. and you know, they found the one true line and they followed it through and i thought, you know, that's why people are intoxicated by acting people, sleep, walk, and half through life. when these people get in it, they don't have to be up at the somebody's got to boil water at the 5th base camp for the people to strike the summit. and they were also joyous about, i said, no wonder people intoxicated. it's the magic kingdom, isn't it?
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yeah, yeah, well my parents loved it and of course they didn't reach the, the sort of the, the dreams that probably fueled them to leave a little town in oklahoma called duncan, or the farm that dad grew up on in, in oklahoma and, and, and, and try to pursue it, i mean, hell, you know, my dad, my dad went to try to be gene autry or, or a roger. he thought he could be a sing and cowboy. nobody told me, couldn't carry a freaking tune to save his life. i mean, i thank god i but you know, buddy, you know, he had the guts to go mom had the dream. and while they didn't ever fully realize that, you know, they, they were also proud of themselves that they were making living at this. and they never depended on our salaries. you know, you know, a manager's fee is 15 percent. once they started taking a fee, they took 5 percent because they felt like the other 2 thirds was just any parents job the job, you know. and they all we lived, we lived in the house that dad could afford. that was very clear,
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our money got saved for us in a very healthy, you know, way which, which we're very grateful for. so, you know, we just got unbelievably lucky that these people had this common sense to make, as i said, sort of one good decision, you know, after another. hey, one other good old thing. both of them, both of them. once my mom went back to acting and as my dad continued to age, they continue their parts got better and better in the last 2 years of my dad's why if he had the best roles of his career. so there you go. if you keep grinding, i have seen mom, i was one of the highlights, have apollo 13. yeah. you know, mom playing grandma level in apollo 13, she lives to be a large drawing and says, are you with the space program? do i didn't know that. so great, beautiful, so the, the ransom gene making hitchcock in cameos and all the films and listen anymore. is
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there any better gift that is, you look at these 2 young men, you can tell that they're fine people. is there any greater legacy than iran can look at me and say, my dad left our money for us and we lived in our house. she can afford folks, you can talk about all the noble gestures in your life. you can talk about greatness. what is a greatness? i'm saying when you have 2 sons like this, and they think back on that moment and they think back on the mother being and dominant and calling them the boys and rallying the family. that is the greatest gift that is, that is true greatness in life. forget the movies, forget the awards, forget the followers. all that is when you can look back and go, my dad did the right thing by us. and so did my mom, folks, you've lived the greatest life you can live at that point. i'm so happy to hear that story right. you truly are bless brother and has nothing to do. although i got to save beautiful my. and i'm still the russell through the phone downtown or what
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the hell he was thinking should one back to back for that, you know, he was killer absolutely killer. alright, doward boys dead. right. the book is the boys a memoir and nice to see 2 cats. i hope we break bread sometimes are good people. oh, pleasure. yeah. good talking to you dennis. got you. well, i'm glad you're happy over there, baby. yet. the ball hard. right? yeah, no, it's beautiful. and really cathartic, really cathartic to work on this book. and it really did made me extra grateful. he really did dennis. it's the circle of life simba, good to talk to cat a bye bye. i. if i right, yeah, the well, that is really like ah
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