hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . there are growing indications that washington isn't finished with afghanistan just yet. military involvement has come to an end, but not engagement. also, we were told there is an energy crisis. maybe this is part of the great reset ah to discuss these issues and more. busy i'm joined by my guess, marcus papadopoulos in london. he's a historian, analyst and author of the book arise, receive the return of russia to world politics and implements. we have that for kennings, and he is the editor and founder of the 21st century wire dot com originally across top roles. in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want and i would appreciate it. ok, let's start with marcus. i ever since the arctic withdrawal from a couple in the, in the western world, particularly in the washington foreign policy. so there's been

a lot of discussion of what, what is next year. and actually what is actually happened is happening because on the one hand you have many saying, and this is the subtext is a reason to go back in is that the taliban are in meet with isis, and al qaeda and all of this. and then there's another narrative out there that visually it was very chaotic, but policy wise, there may be some kind of underlying attempt to engage the taliban is some kind of barrier and even possible ally in the region when it comes to american foreign policy. it's really makes the, there's a lot of emotion attached to this. ok, honey, you see. and because there's one thing that you can deny, a lot of military equipment was left behind during the afghan civil war, which raged from the 199623001. it approximately took the taliban

then one year so emerged triumphant in the country. and yet in 2021, despite the presence of the u. s. military in africa on to get away of the after an army which was trained and ultimately equipped by washington, it took the taliban a matter of weeks to conquer the whole of the country. now, any one we've just an ounce, all enlightenment about military affairs will concludes that it will simply inconceivable for the taliban on their own to a conquered afghanistan, a country exceptionally large, exceptionally diverse. and with the american military presence. that is why pizza leading up to the taliban. victory in africa. stone. and on the day they entered,

oh, i stood almost alone on elevation by saying that i believe the west america. and also britain arrived at an informal agreement with a talent whereby the americans and the british would allow the taliban to emerge victorious. so long as it's done. and in the turn, the taliban would have to ensure that the american america and britain retain that strategic influence in afghanistan and what we have seen since. in fact, what we saw we've been days of the color and entry into cabal was maintained between that the taliban and the director of maintenance between the taliban and the heads of britons from an intelligent service. small, commonly known as am i 6. we have also seen the taliban guarantee in

public the security of western pipelines in afghanistan. and we have also seen western mainstream major, both in america and in britain begin the process of conditioning, the american and british people to see in order to see in the taliban as a ally against isis. because the americans and the british mainstream major outlets are starting to tell their people that the taliban, another taliban from the 19 nineties and the 2 fail since they have reformed. they have even pledged to observe and respect human rights. so what i believe page says that the americans and the british are very much in afghanistan. they do not need an army of occupation to control afghanistan. they have simply, i write that an informal agreement teller and,

and they control key institutions in afghanistan, such as the civil service. and i believe that sooner rather than later, washington and london willis will formalize the informal relations with the taliban . by reopening embassies in i just need to jump in there because you could also make the argument in the, in what we just heard can be true. but it can also be true that the taliban are, are playing the field. of course you have they, they've met with the russians. the russians met with them before, even though the taliban is designated by russia as a terrorist organization. and china has chimed in as well. so it looks like in the green game in this, it's the 21st century version of here, because i would agree with marcus that the u. s. wants to can maintain at least some form of influence there because it's the, the taliban is reaching out to others. and we have to remind everyone part of the

trump deal was that our groups like al qaeda and isis will had to be had to be under control. meaning they wouldn't be using afghanistan as a, a based for foreign endeavors here. so there's a lot of mixed commentary again, it because of the emotional shock for so many people that were so vested in the war and they're getting a good pedal that narrative. so i think things are in flux here. but remember, patrick reacted with marcus, i'm to say it was very interesting. yeah. you could say, oh, come on, what continue it, marcus? this point. i think you can go off to the segue. but it, when the early ninety's, when the taliban took power, it was, it was, you know, a lot of people in the west don't realize that a lot of people in afghanistan at that time saw them is the lesser of 2 evils. because all these warlords in northern alliance types that the u. s. had backed later post 911. they were responsible and known throughout afghanistan for

committing grave atrocities. and so when they were, when the taliban came to power, even by the women of, of afghanistan were seen as a lesser of 2 evils. so it wasn't as black and white it because the afghan war is portrayed as a women's rights issue. in the west, i mean that was the sort of overriding narrative right through everything justified that, that the intervention and that's how it played out anyway in terms of the liberal press and so forth was, the reality is much more complicated. and the point marcus was making about the u. s. strategic interests. so the question is, what are those strategic interests? and yes, you have the tapi, the torque menaced an afghan pakistan india pipeline. that's definitely a western interest. why is that a western interest? because that's in direct competition with the c pack of chinese pakistan energy

corridor, which is part of the belton road initiative. so these are competing supply lines. india is, is a big set piece in western geopolitical had your money terms. and so who can win india and also cut off china to derive china. i mean the u. s. it's known the u . s. are backing bellucci militants and they're attacking some of these very areas, including your, the water port of water in pakistan, you have the militants in my and more you have the stable ation there. that's another route. china needs these overland routes to bypass any potential disruption in the south china sea august. and the sort of the things that we're looking at that could take place in the future in terms of disrupting shipping lanes and so forth. so china has a very diverse strategy, and one of the main step pieces also is shing jong, western china. and there was a z, isis,

the emergence of isis k is. if you look back at the history of this so called terrorists group, ok that they just re branded entices k was the chorus and group in 2013 or no, sorry, 20142015. this was a term coined by the u. s. intelligence. when james clapper was in charge, this is an obama administration, in my opinion, and, and probably many others who looked at this closely. it's a kind of a construct the course and group, and it is a pedigree through it. i'm in, don't worry. i'll cut in the reading the peninsula, the underwear bomber. it runs right through this bit of classic and intelligence, clandestine and terrorist construction that the u. s. or they've just basically revived it and all the sudden suicide bomb attacks. and after the pull out in afghanistan, so what is the nicest fraction doing in afghanistan, but playing a disruptive role, you just had all the wiggers is escaping from prison,

magically after the u. s. withdrew you have all these other isis militants who were somehow simultaneously escaped from prison. i'm sure there they had assistance in that. so that's the major jihadi jailbreak that you saw right before the emergence of isis in july of 2014. so i see this repeating pattern that's forming right now. and so the, like you said, the u. s. doesn't need to be in afghanistan, militarily, like marcus said, and they, there's other things that they can do to direct the affairs in the region. it sounds like mark, as it sounds like to me is that, you know, in western historical conference. we go from this state to this state here. but any given what we've already said here on our program, is it, this is just the continuation of the civil war just in a different direction with different people with different names because it sounds like what is the, what's going on right here? go ahead. yes,

i also believe that history teaches us that the americans and the british only withdraw from a country or strategic value to them if they have been militarily defeated in that country. and the americans and the british was not militarily defeated in afghanistan. it is true, the americans and the british, whenever able to military inflicts at the fates on the pilot. but at the same time, the taliban, whenever able to defeat the americans in the british markets, also need another failure is that the us was never able to legitimize their proxy government in the eyes of the population. that was a very key thing. and i think fundamentally, that is the reason why they decided to be okay, because there was nothing you could do to legitimize that government was just corrupt to the core. keep going indeed. i mean, we have a look at the casualties which the american and british military's incurred and i

scanned his song, but losses all most negligible. so that is why it comes back to my assertion which i have been putting out for some months now that the americans and the british had no reason to leave afghanistan. ask and his phone is of immense strategic value to both washington and london as it was to the british empire in the 19th in the 19th century. so that is why i believe we will see true the taliban, the americans, and the british will at 10. so threaten russian national security troops, central asia, because of the central asia is russia, is actually off, so to speak through the taliban. the americans and the british will continue to try and the stabilize in shang, which is of course, a restless muslim province in china. and also for the taliban, the americans and the british will be able to limit yvonne's influence in the

region a lot more to talk about when it comes up in the future. and we're going to go to a short break out about your break will continue our discussion and some really stay with our t. ah, me, i join me every 1st day on the alex simon show. when i was speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then me a to point the family dentistry with

just food. say that even then you would you that is images with music images. so we come up with was out of the to get a vote with a welcome back to cross dock. were all things are considered on peter la bell. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real issues. ah

okay gentlemen, let's change gears here. patrick. the western world world in general is experiencing a quote unquote energy crisis here. in many ways for me, i certainly can. consumers are feeling like a shortage high prices. there's no denying, but the cost of a well, that's a different issue altogether and i sum it up with this 2 ideas, ranking competence and ideology. i'll explain later. go ahead. yeah, so you know, it's funny how the press has reported this, this energy shock price shock and it's, it's seen as like some active nature. it's just some organic event that just happened and we all have to deal with this surgeon record search in whole so energy prices. and the reality is that this isn't an organic act of god. this is a direct result of government policies,

specific policy decisions made by the governments of europe made by great britain made by the united states and other g 7 countries included. ok. so there are there the willingness to go along with this green new deal, or ideologically mainly ideologically driven directors. and we saw the results of it last winter in germany when the wind turbines froze. when there was no solar power, when they couldn't meet their base load demand, what did they do? they fired up the same thing in texas. yes, they fired up the coal plants. so now what do you see? you see a coals. ready coming back now they have to do this again. what's happened to the price of coal is searched. what does that mean? they need to buy carbon credits or a carbon offsets. so the carbon markets are booming because of a restriction in supply to the energy market. so what's the result of this x fossil fuels becoming expensive?

this price is being passed on to consumers. ok, but a lot, but what's really caused this a did. this started during the enron revolution. the total deregulation and free floating a wholesale price is derivative, markets were introduced for energy spec to speculation. industry was basically opened up. and although enron collapsed and people were arrested and charges were brought, the system still remains. so it's, you can manipulate the energy market, then you add to this, the price of, of gas. because if russia was allowed to supply via the north stream to buy other pipeline project, it would help to stabilize the spot price. and so they're blue. now they're naming russia accusing couldn't, of weapon ising energy is just that some believable. so russia just wants to be a good partner to europe, provide constant cheap and stable, natural gas and markets. the amazing thing is, i've been, i've been following the russian energy market for 2 years. i mean a long,

long time. and one thing that they've always dressed in gas from is always said, because that's the monopoly export of russia, is that they want long term contracts. they want to stay away from this speculation . and that's what it all is exactly what patrick was saying, my dear, this is a for some people, a one person's crisis is a small group about, well the people's opportunity here. and again, the incompetence of it. ok when, when we have the, the height of the lock down in the west. ok. consumption went down. and then you know, they, they develop the storage units. and then when they lock down, starting to come to an end, there was a surgeon in demand. and while they are doing that same time, they should have been refilling the storage units, but they weren't. ok, i mean just incompetent. i mean, i don't even work in that industry and i know that go ahead mark. firstly in the u . k. energy prices rise year on year, not because of graphs,

it not because of a supposed energy crisis, but because energy, electricity and gas in britain is privatized. secondly, britain has relied to extensively on liquefied natural gas. and further, the british government should have put politics aside and should have emulated the agreements which germany reached, wave russia by which germany will receive a constance and uninterrupted flow of natural gas, which is crucial to the german industry. and crucial to. ready german domestic households, pizza. i want to share story review, patrick and our viewers. recently i embarked on a journey from london, hampshire. that is a long distance and i stopped at numerous places along the way. at no time did i see food shortage, and no time did i see an energy shortage. i took it upon myself to speak with

employees. i petrol stations from london to penn shire, and in supermarkets from london to pembroke shire. every single employee told me there is no food shortage. there is no energy shortage, per se. what has caused some problems regarding items of foods in supermarkets and almost an overnight demand on petrol and diesel wont panic by and here we have seen pizza in griffin is a british mainstream major a few weeks ago, put out an on cooperated story to say that britain was short of petrol and diesel and the british people, again, without thinking it depended labor about forensic thinking. critically having this absolute faith in what mainstream major tells them, they went out, they didn't just fill up their cars,

they filled up jerry cans. they filled up plastic bin liners with pencil and diesel, and that caused a very short term shortage. but there is no energy crisis, her se, in the united kingdom. so that leads me on to discussing why is mainstream major legend that why? british ministers legina, i believe part of the reason is to distract the british public from some very serious changes which are being imposed in british society. fraser. v. what is known as coven? 19, and i believe it is another way of justifying the increase in electricity and gas by saying it has anything to do with privatization. it has everything to do with russia. so i believe that there is more so the story of an energy crisis in britain

than meets the eye. you know, patrick, also when i think i'm dangerous for the average consumer, is that in a way this narrative give me turned into see how see how incompetent carbon fuel is we really have to we have to make that final bowls. ok over, you know, to the green economy here, which of course for the people that are subscribed to that all, that might be all nice and fine. maybe they have solar panels already. but i mean, there's more time and effort putting in being put into 202420342044. what about this this, this, this winter? ok, these are incompetent people. they think about unicorns all the time, and the rest of us pay the price for it. go ahead. yeah. so when, when there is a spike in wholesale prices, it hurts the retail providers of energy. so it's, this is knocked out all of the smaller providers,

the ones the government entice to get into the market for years. and so you're left with the big players. and then the big players can then go and complain to the government, ask for what a bail out. so i wouldn't be surprised if we see that. and so this is a consolidation of markets. this is what we've seen since the beginning of the coven 19 crisis. globally is really a re consolidation of finance, so power and the concentration of financial power into fewer and fewer hands. and so if you look at the great reset directive, the book ca, schwab's own book want they want to reduce air travel. they want to make fossil fuels are no longer economically viable. they want to reduce consumption of beef and pork. now we have the pork price crisis in the u. k as well. they don't have enough added to our workers in butchers to kill all the pigs. so they need to slaughter the pigs a cashless society. that's also an important feature. central bank,

digital currencies, block chain currencies. this is now being talked about by richey stone act, the chancellor checker and the bank of england more often now is so that this is seen as a fait accompli eliminating suburban life and moving people into more concentrated city dwellings and so forth. so, and stakeholder capitalism putting the values of stakeholders ahead of, of profit. so fundamentally transforming the, the, what the free market economy or the crony capitalist economy, whichever way you want to describe it. so all of these take all these boxes, one by one. and so, and it's interesting how this overlaps this d d and the fossil fuel is ation the industrialization, energy intensive for you and sustainable development goals for 2030. this does overlap somewhat with geo politics because this also sees to keep russia out of the european market. it is funny that they're the u. s. and the britain are egging on

you to, to keep sanctions on russia. they've been doing this for years and, and russia just became the number 2 oil and petroleum in puerto, into the united states. just in september, they just passed mexico only buying canada now. so i mean, where, where is the outrage from the, from the democrats, from the, by the ministry. where's the outreach? just be the complete stupidity of their planning and having me back. but certainly the law of getting comes into play here. i mean, there, so there are many things that people want on the left want to tinker with and you know, when it comes to energy, i don't want inquiry within here as well. i mean point is to mark as me and me know, crisis is being wasted here. is it okay? everything? good. i think think we have the supply chain or the quote energy crisis. and cobit, they're all, they all co mingle, go ahead. i think it's an irrefutable pizza bucks. a great transformation

is occurring in the west, principally in america, canada, australia, britain and, and you said and then it's no coincidence that sucks and come yeah, no, none of it is good. i say it's no coincidence that they are, but those are the anglo saxon countries of the world. we know that when something happens in britain and america very, very quickly transformed to the rest of the world. and i believe that this transformation is very, very sinister, and in fact, i would go as far as the site, it's a very hideous transformation. the problem is that in america and in britain, the democratic republican, conservative and labor parties, are 2 sides of the same coin. they are corporate policies. they act in their, in their own interest and in the interest of the ordinary man as woman. and they

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