ah, i'm option retention, you watch and going underground this week you k, p m, boris johnson, flew his foreign secretary lives trust to arms, customer saudi arabia, which has been bombing yemen. presently the worst humanitarian crisis in the world . this while a usa with $40000000.00 unable to eat tonight without welfare looks to increase war spending to $725000000000.00 a year. the extent of the malign road of the military industrial complex was revealed by one of the most famous journalists in the world. wikileaks is julian assange. he is in jail ahead of another hearing next week. joining me now from london is worth a historian and the inspiration for the running stones street fighting man. tar golly. a member of the original anti war bertrand russell jean pl salter tribunal. he, along with edward snowden and others, a part of the resurrected tribunal now named bel mush after sanchez london prison direct thanks so much for coming back on another terrible week for the global south . there been all these, the violence in jerusalem, there been explosions in syria,

in brazil, the accusations of genocide, but in nature, nation media, se the b, b. c, cnn. they're mourning the loss of colin powell, he of my li'l salvador, nicaragua, pat him. iraq was, what did you make of the eulogies to the 1st african american as secretary of state and as other powerful u. s. military industrial, complex positions? well, i mean, it's what you should a, have a similar noticed a few service rumsfeld because he was just a white guy doing his job. you know, you know, i'm referring to the deceased war criminal, donald rumsfeld and the government. all, it's the same. it's become a slightly more emotional because of a skin color, but what he did was will fail to basically serve the empire to elias ministry wage was. and in the case of a pound, of course, he has

a pre history to iraq, which is very mom. and he was one of the younger officers who come right up the main line massacre, which later became a huge scandal in the u. s. history. and so that's what he is a celebrate pharaoh and give them a going to send off because they support all this stuff and have been for ages. now the media and the global media in the west is a central player and all the wars that have been taking place in the 21st century the lies about iraq were told by the new york tribes were battle in the b, b. c. under pressure from black director general, the bbc who didn't tow the line were basically forced out, etc, etc. so these walls have effectively cemented the role of the state media. in particular,

like the bbc of cnn and our western terminals. tony tony blinking biden's a man in the state to bob and said he was a great man. i think what i'm getting out is because you were a pioneer, multi cultural issues. i worked for you on a friday program after all, i'm always seeing the weapon izing of identity politics to cover up the kind of actions you're just talking about. people can see are interviewed sy hersh the my lai massacre in our youtube channel because they kept on talking about identity politics. i somehow ignoring what you had just talking about. they go on and on about it on the take some time. so when hillary clinton and secretary of state justified the public lynching and brutal murder mama, afy, she said we came, we saw he died. not too many come i'll send the press some said quite witty, very triumphantly stuff. so this to friends of blayton to

goes on and identity politics. so one of the things that i used to justify they can use many others, the identity of the person drain is not that necessary. anyone could do it within the peer. so government has gone a lot of the identity politics side of it. interesting me, i don't know if anyone recalled or mentioned when he was under heavy pressure to stand as republican president is wife the target. she said, you would come out of this about well, and presumably referring to us as a nation attempt is 10 years since the libya intervention actually, since you mentioned it, you might have heard that the elder brother of the guy who has been it was done for the atrocity in manchester, the area of the grand a concert presumably both of them. libby and fighting group. members, i don't know,

somehow escaped after rejecting said john saunders inquiry questions after that atrocity and managers to why do you think no one is asking here about connections with policy on libya? well, i think it's focus. i mean, in many cases in libya, people were encouraged, if not routed by britain, our west countries to go and fight and britain as a lynx. in any event, this guy was probably out of some team which was sent and they're now embarrass happens. all it's happened in the syrian was, well, it's happened in the bosnian more people they recruit to go and fight for their side. whatever it happens to be at the time. now to me as slightly crazy. the stabilized by the experience and carry out acts of terror. they're not the only ones, but there's a neighbor. but all those brave relatives, i mean,

how do they get away with it? the authorities here, they obviously want to know why their children died. i think they don't get, i mean that's one reason why they get away with it is they say we're doing our best . we've got all these prevent programs. so going to fight to more in libya or syria is on a different level clearly. but it's not so different, you know, people become like that with ordinary lives are lost, a lot of cost is made and then the speed with which history most of the moment, thanks to the way in which society and of course, the mainstream media function is never to recall, so if it goes, it goes and people can gary on weeping for the rest of their lives. we live in some people saying that the afghanistan withdrawal allows the united states to target africa. laura obsessively,

you've written extensively about afghanistan and you book out this month here and later to be published internationally in a months time. what did you make of some people celebrating this is a complete change in us policy that at last, the u. s. has seen the light and realize they should get out of these wars. they're defeated in well, i think what the u. s. saw was that there was no way forward for this, for actual the down in a stalemate. the united states has known this since 2015 for the soviet union when they went in, realized very quickly and determined to move out 3 years in the world. the united states as a much, much longer as spent terinio, seeing the debt. so tens of thousands of,

of grand citizens lost some player own people, not that many, it has to be said and they have no alternative left. so politically and ideologically, it's been a huge setback as they know perfectly well. will it stop them continuing to print trans? no, it won't. they're an imperial r this to behave in their own interests as a bigger boss, i want to do. and setbacks can be. i shrugged off, especially in a large unipolar world, there is no big gold, tentative state life or soviet union in a different way used to be. so there's no global restraint and all the a european union and britain are totally locked in japan and australia in asia. and so the united states can more or less get

away with what it wants to do. i mean, there was some european opposition to the iraq war from germany and france, but once iraq was occupied, they came on board to recognize did support to be occupational, open trade relations, etc. so that's how the oil functions and you know, we, many of us oppose it, but we have to be aware of what that well. so now i'm in restraints on american power at all, but a short term loss of profit for some of the major weapons and security multinational companies. as julian assange made clear, when we say the government spend trillions, actually these trillions are recycled through into big company profits and directors, profits in new york, london, and paris. this is all true, but these profits never see because they sell arms and compete with each other in spending armaments to all over the world,

including themselves. so you see this huge bust out where the french preston macro lost it and withdrew bastards from the united states. because of a craig, the long nuclear submarines which he'd been promised and united states the impression it there wasn't too much pressure. i bet and gave the deed to britain and mac already went, but he should know that's the order of the day. i mean, he's been boasting that he's in the atlanta says because the green atlanta says president francis ad, that's been the tailed offering foreign policy, especially under the socialist, but not exclusively. and so when this happens, micra is angry, but you know, paint was the anger is about selling new and nuclear submarines. i do a concrete proud round permanently underneath chinese water. so i'm very free. so

this is, that is what happens in the case of, of gun is on. it's big loss of me. it's beyond the arms merchants with news, but they're crowns for the big loss for the west. is that the control the exercise didn't directly over the one success story and a promise that is now over and that is water could run the obama previously and honest share of the global heroine opium crate was about 2425 percent under 20 intervention alarm be praised, it is gone up to 9090 percent. so that is in the box and that is a lot of money. and that is the money which the middle men, which included lots of apparatus serving and upon this on no doubt, senior officers and soldiers from all these armies and all the soldiers who became

graphics that is now gone. and so the, i assume they taliban will be now in total control of this trade, which is very, very profitable. obviously, i have seen the taliban deny being drug dealers. they say they clamped right down on it and the london washington and camber all saying that the submarines can't carry nuclear weapons of obviously they can be upgraded to, to sell the target. i'll stop you there more from the legendary author historian and activist, after this break and i drink shaped banks center centers with

sinks. we dare to ask in a financial survival guide. i don't buy, hey, i buy only features. now most of the friday at the last time i buy it from the future. so franca watched kaiser mm. welcome back. i'm still here with his story in northern activist derek ali. i mean, since we're talking about selling arms, what he may give a list truss who's previously this. he's the foreign secretary of this country. she previously admitted to breaking court orders. batting sales of weapons is that the arabia barth johnson was dispatched to saudi arabia. yemen is not even on the news except on unicef advertisement. in between the news bulletins. you think this is a,

this is going to be a big, big element of trade policy to sell weapons to saudi arabia. more of the they've been selling weapons. so the radio to can, can come if you, the expression. this is the kingdom created 1st by the british empire when taken over by the american empire. it's been controlled by them on many different levels . obviously the sort of these have some autonomy, lifeline background. prince decides to go and bump off with the soviet embassy cut him into the 2 pieces and bring him back to saudi arabia that you can bet has not been authorized by any wisdom intelligence agency. but they have to be about some more drama. i mean, they've been armed for a long time and the irony is me leaving aside the horrors that are being inflicted on the yemen. today it was the western world watches and that citizens go sleep on the horrors of being inflicted on by yemen.

just fill me with despair for years decades, the saudis have been buying up huge amounts of weapons lands from britain, mainly from the united states. and during what with in the eighty's and ninety's and in the beginning of this century, they're both large warehouses in the desert when these things was told. and those who actually went to see them said they were rustic. they had no use for them. but they bought them in order to do their part of the been there to play and being loyal to the people to get them in such a long time. i mean, if western support was withdrawn from saudi arabia or subsidies with rome for that matter, israel change would come very quickly in both these countries. you think any tooth

has them. so they money before he was assassinated was trying to seek reproach in iran in saudi which is presumably a nightmare scenario of a native you know, i. 1 don't know whether that is the case or not. it will surprise me because he was proactive. he was an extremely intelligent person, one of the more intelligent people in the regime as a whole. and he was the rook played in afghanistan by him, and his people was to crime men, the breach with caliber. i mean, as you remember, the iranians that supported the war on iraq and on this phone and got nothing out of it. so there was some rethinking going on there. and the behind the scenes dogs with the taliban,

which the united states have been conducting iran to, has been conducting and they have a bit more to offer. they have a minority which has to be defended. they can actually decide whether or not people understand stable, most certainly it seems that they have to do so. so the house to the t is basically the, the violence in the front is basically related to a very tiny group of isis supporters and where they are. my problem is, you know, o debate which goes on. but in any event, the iranians have been making that and so no money played a met. and i remember a couple of years ago when i was visiting focus found in the local papers for c, i a guy shot down by dialing bomb in play or something like that. and when you read the story, it was that the iranians have identified

a unit that carried out the also the money found that he was in a panel on a visit and knocked down his playing. the story disappeared the next day from the stony breast, while a people in this country looking to call 26, a blaming china for maybe not. she's in being prevaricating over coming to glasgow . what, what role does china have in pakistan, given a bank rules pakistan in terms of what happened in afghanistan? read the taliban take over? well, i mean, they are still a teacher. chinese is large and motivated by the chinese economic advance. is there a huge economic right hold on to be done away with, which is why with in the american elite, there is a debate because they will be affected if they go to hard on china. and i was not

going to sit down and do nothing economic in terms of sanctions, etc. but let's hope it doesn't reach that that has the austerity, but add to that is the factor they try law has now and so to did. so in a very clear way and doesn't follow western foreign policy, neither do the russians for different reasons. but both amanda chinese having asserted the sovereignty of their own countries. after a period in which the west had assumed that russia and china would simply follow them blindly, that hasn't happened, in fact, that the exact opposite that has happened, and they resent it from any other free exercise. so in this way, regardless of what they do, it's the opposition to total. so on keep a concrete which is

a whole mark of the present political set up on global scale. so the chinese do what they, we'd like to pakistan is very different because to be objective here. good relations with pakistan have existed since the sixty's. so it's a very old and firm relationship. and within the pakistan, the military, they refer to the chinese and always have as are all with the contrasts with the united states being clear that the u. s. blows or blows cold, but the chinese remain steadfast and they have they are giving backs them a lot of people don't make it in return for this. they've got the order number, which is effectively a chinese strong aud as one of the terminals and trade german notes and the development which has taken place. there's created some tension with locals because

the way it's been handled, but they're definitely bad. in the case of crime is, i think it is very noticeable and i talk about this in my book for 40 or in the 1st form visit by the senior. i live on vacation was to china. they went the week after they were flew to china or greeted by the chinese foreign minister and other senior officials and extensive talks. a france gave a very clear statement that they are not intending afghanistan to be used by any for country or any foreign group to destabilize neighboring countries of clear reference station and the chinese, you know, friendly promise, trade relations, etc. and in my opinion, i think this is one reason

a chinese presence that has now pushed the united states into reopening discussions of the taliban and hell, great terms, et cetera, et cetera. so the guns, if they behave intelligently, could be in a strong position. thanks to a huge rice all for a child the last 2 decades. i mean, i want to get on to julian sergeant bell. much drive, you know, but just quickly on that, what is a nato nation viewer? supposed to think when the watches any coverage of china with respect to allegations of genocide in jang, the use top human rights prize given this week the sacker of fries to alexi. now the only people can watch an old, old fake video of him carrying out some kind of mock execution of a muslim woman. that what is a view as was to think about jane jane. when they watch the pictures from chinese concentration get? well, i mean, you know, it's a certainly in,

on general side that i'm convinced lots of people because it said this is a completely exaggerated campaign. and the word genocide is often use these days not as a scientific description or has taking place, but as a leave. all, you know, obviously the chinese are doing it to bet they're basically sending in lots of people from the majority population trying to fuse that has the way with the minorities probably main. try them out for a long, long time. contrary by the way to what mouth said they should be getting better on the me respected, etc. but they claim that there are terrorists in groups in which i cannot say whether that is true or not true, simply because one doesn't have any information. but what is undoubtedly true,

the west is appointed angry and sweden to monitor the situation. there is no hope. so they're going to make this into. they already have into something that they will use against the chinese. and the chinese will respond as they normally to be safe. got also. so it's not going to unfortunately be for the people of jin chang, this is not going to be very useful in the very dangerous to if the west for its own purposes, cries to create an arm struggle group smuggle in arms. it's not going to work, which is one factor why the defeat can respond is important because the chinese have been insisting very strongly behind the scenes. they should be no minute crude basis. you mentioned had sweden, amongst all of that because we've been very associated with julian assange in the minds of be able to read that in the old media partner. we can leave the guardian.

tell me about the bell much tribunal. you were there with john paul, sovereign and, and butcher russell. what is the bell mush tribunal? a public relations attempt crime, draw more attention to what's been happening to us on june. why and what it is going to do is link all the crimes we have witnessed over the last 20 years in different parts of the world. you know, 6 countries and they did trillion span millions. gail, that's what's been going on since the war on terror. julian a sergeant, we leeks exp. oh, sure. this brought many of these atrocities to the public eye, which is why julia is being punished. it's a vindictive to terran to tampa. it's not going to work. it never knew it. shocked

by the yahoo news story and had previously been reported, i think in the grey zone, about the stories about gun battles in knights bridge in central london and even even adam, she was surprised. what did you make of it? you never surprised? well, i'm not surprised because, you know, i knew that it was, it was going to happen. and the way they did it, of course, was very dramatic. since the last ecuadorian government, the post korean government being the equitorial effectively. so the pastoral cia and when to go shooting our best to get him out. see i was thinking about bumping assange off, killing, executing him inside the ecuadorian embassy. they had the black. so he was released. i think british intelligence wouldn't have been too happy about that eventuality, because after all,

it is better. so he was released and locked up in bell marsh for is not high security. prison for what charge and age charge was a breach of bail conditions. of anyone being locked up in a prison like been in march for that it's very clear that the british secret state and not so secret state or even judiciary has been very vindictive in the treatment to present lodge on the say. so largely, but not exclusive. on the say, so all of the united states, i mean, even in britain at the time when the care storm, a current position, which is a joke and it's a, was director of public prosecutions is office and special messages to swedish prosecutors who were thinking of withdrawing the charger for

a sector saying don't do it yet, don't do it. well, the hearing is is next week tally. thank you. thanks for the show will be back on monday to against the royal family ties to the nazis a week ahead of a hearing in the sexual amused case against prince andrew until then keeping judge y social media. let us know what you think. major nation journalist don't come out on the streets to defend julian with a low one birthday putting additional one needs of the household and that the additional money goes to children, education, and welfare off the household. and then thirdly, it goes to savings. and if a country as a savings, if can improve itself and produce growth, i didn't say that,

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