ah, ah ah ah ah, hello in welcome across the dock were all things are considered, i'm peter lubelle's. the more nato tries to explain itself, the more obvious this cold war relic needs to be retired and for good. also, joe biden told us he wanted to be the great unifier, unlike the evil orange man. indeed, now there is growing unity in the dislike of by ah,

to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, george samuel in budapest. he's a podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor in us, me internet media project. gentleman cross up rules and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate. let's go to gym of 1st year. adina. there's a saying in politics, the more you're explaining, the more you're losing. and it seems to me this applies to nato because it has a number of different narratives going on out there. we had salt and burn the head of nato recently in washington. and just, you know, the as if on cue, you know, it's all about china. no, it's all about russia in china, in all the same deal geopolitical landscape and security scape and all of that is getting kind of pathetic now. i mean, as i said,

if you're explaining it means you're losing, go ahead. oh, good. what their thoughts on back has been seen it in the last 2 weeks, was very contradictory. he gave an interview to edwin, got in august, step or worse, basically, reduced into bumper stickers like russia. we're going to contain china. i want to engage, even though it's aggressive. and again, instead of going to watch that she gives an interview for the financial times where she says, oh, you know, the threats are global. so russia and china are basically the same. it's my big threat that we need to deal together. well, i think that the story was male over the years before that world war 2, you know, when italy and sometimes finland, you know, they, they wanted to be l. i. so he's doing their small little things, you know, all the pair just next to the like the aliens wanted to take greece and some of the islands. the famous probably wanted to take part of korea after they were there by

started in. they can, so it's 9, but then she told them, oh i helped you intelligence with race. now with me just started graphs, you know, the feel kid told them, oh, you took about of greatest now how me to to be each that in grad yes. and they had to go, so the same story here is the paul doesn't want to fight china. you know, the last thing on the hon and i want to do, you know, is to find china. they won't do several of their scores with russia. that's true. and that's very unfortunate, but washington, just, you know, forces them natal follow skewed. it forces them into a global confrontation and then from predictable, you know, what sort of the big will say next week, you know, convicted, but you know, it's in our company. there's no geo political strategy here, it's not coherent. you don't charge, you know, when it's that back from it. i mean,

at the end of the day is as much as nathan wants to claim that brushes some kind of security threat to the european count in the western part of the year. asia land mass, david, russian really don't care much anymore. i mean, they think they're so important, these europeans, they're not go ahead. yeah, that's right. and i think that it's a striking that the years go by and they do is unable to articulate any kind of a rationale for its existence. and that's why it comes along with all these contradictory statements, but, well, you know, where we're in the business of this new concept that the defense in the euro atlantic area. so, so then issue is ok, so roger is the enemy? well, you're russian very aggressive. want to watch out for russia on mostly gauge with talk to russia. but the problem is that nature is creating the very problems and

then turns around and says, well, we are the solution to the problem because it, let's just say what happened in the last 2 weeks. they expelled these a mess and from nato and said, well, we're coming back on your, of your russian presence. nature. well, the russians just don't understand what we were tired of all this time. being all these accusations, we're just going to a song and say, we're closing down your office. and most of that nature uses that you are looking how aggressive russia is. so same thing with lloyd austin, the us defense secretary here. last week he went to visit the georgia grade romania, and the last to george and your grade, i don't to nato membership is over for you. well, how does nato,

the united states expect russia to respond to this way? obviously they go to respond with considerable trepidation which then show them about guns or are you saying you are right? or aggressive? look at how there mouthing off of the brain being in nature. no, i mean, but the interesting thing is when i asked him with his whirlwind and tour, i think the 2nd periods of defense was beginning there. why did you members of the nato alliance? the moment or not keen on seeing expansion of the alliance to include georgia in ukraine, let me throw that to him, right? because again, i mean he has expansion, the goal is the status quo, the go, the go over the horizon. is that, or is it just everything and nothing at the same time because basically they're continuing to search for reason to continue their existence. and we've just said on this program, 5 minutes and 31 seconds in the it's a number of things. ok,

whatever. see your purpose is that the time and deem at the same time you had been toria doing here, try and doing group relations or stop the deterioration and the secondary depends. a week later goes around and you know how being on drum so. i mean, i don't see any coherence here. go ahead. well, unfortunately, there are many traditions, but you should always expect the horse with me, joe, because basically the narrative of the last 7 year students in started was like russia. you are paranoid, the major is not going to spend and ukraine. it's not on the agenda. we have heard it many times, i know suddenly stalled and says, oh, russia should not be afraid of the expansion of nato. do you agree? major is a defense you for why, you know, after 7 years, a war in which russia actually just not a lot, but the worst. keep saying the brush is fight in ukraine groceries. but you know,

warren, your brain, your grade is going to be, you go to a huge military of ours. and then you know that the one says, oh, don't worry, you have a war with it. but there's going to join the defense you for alliance. so you have nothing to worry about, you know, just loss. so, the same story with the, with the marriage, like, ok, you are a north atlantic treaty organization. what are you doing in the sci fi, you know, against china? oh, black, what, why is pacific? when did pacific became because also when you're great, there are so many stories like that before, like one of the you was expansion and you some partnership they included barrels were asked them why don't, why don't you include in russia? well, because we are a union or partnership of democratic congress. what is bill? are we doing there? oh no, it's just, you know, a conscious geographically close to us. what does that mean you're doing that? you know, we're close to that. i mean, it was just, you know, will you please just take it right. well, the demon also, you know,

the partnership agreements are going to the western hemisphere. now as well. the rationale is for that they're not predictable, but your goal is expect the horse because what is behind it is a very region ideology which wants to reform the wall according to the altar, liberal modem in which views big god, just such as prussia and china. as the goal was achieving that goal, in order to remove these obstacles, anything go, you're going to lie. of course, you can organize on who was and then say that these are people's rebellions. 38, but he's been killed in q during what we're supposed to get peaceful demonstration . you know, a big start the elected president who somehow is not legally let the president because he, he was going to be pro ration, you know, wanted to join the association agreement. but still, somehow it was pro ration, right? so these people will y, as they will use violence and they will use

a new pin as long as they feel impunity. the random unit, you know, you know, stolen back instead of us about that from now, it breaks my heart to see what's going on there. why is it the break in your career should be breaking your career? not your heart. instead we hear from you or i just feel sad about that. so don't your mom didn't. everything is fine. that's nothing is stopping with the earthy and members of the nato to go when they're stopping and george been stopping them. exactly. well, i mean, we have the notice of the europeans complaining. well, americans didn't tell us that they are planning to withdraw from me. you know, we feel betrayed by lack of confidence enough. well, hey, i did. you want to take up the fact that it's out of the door is open. but it's what's also interesting is the, the nate dishonest because they know that there's just no way that made the member

say, such as german, you're going to agree to ukraine membership. so what they're really doing is essentially by having a de facto membership and others, they're actually getting more or more troops and miss styles than weapon race stationed in you. so ukraine becomes a de facto nato space. same thing with, i mean, in general or, you know, you know, we need to, yes, but they don't remember that make us so what does that create? well, as far as that is a secure, right? and this is something that says, again at the discussion, you know, when we see miss style cargo, you know, that's something we worry about. i guess this is what it was doing. so there is, again, this, the dishonest of majors doing this are officially and when they were, the russians done around the se, but we don't like what you're doing. well, we're,

we're defensive. steven. those no evidences defense. we know, you know, maybe you can solve it. how does that defensive going to sound? how is that defensive and also georgia, you and i have talked about elsewhere, is that specifically about ukraine? nato membership is the key to you membership. that's the, it's always nato, 1st than you. and this is what is going on here. also we're creating a slippery slope and moral hazard year because the lens is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish off this once. yeah, that's, that's exactly right. and that's why this became become a moral, has lived when you have nato, and you have more often telling me, flat out, hey, the road to nato is open for you. how are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so washington and those

around is that right, this nato is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the nato have the auction that going to say, we're just saying out of this, it's up to you to better relations with your neighbors may. does it not to do that instead, nato is completely aggravating the problem by essentially processing no membership of nato and the you down the road. and it's same thing in georgia. and so it is an absolute to wealthy. and what is happening is putting the sovereignty of ukraine and state your general, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that, you are really saying, oh and i dream shaped for some of those with

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can i get crossed out all the inter considered i'm funeral a bell. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah ok, let's go back to george. so i want to tell my viewers here how we decide to do my topics on, on our bullhorn edition here. and from the home edition. and i always ask demon because demon george, very often on what they would like to do and they send me topics and what is a guys 99 percent of the time i agree with you. so george, you wanted to talk about how divisive joe joe biden is. the floor is yours, go, well, if you're around to be done by this whole thing during the election was that he was going to bring the country together off to the divisive trump.

and all the aggravation and all the tweeting and everything of trump. he buys the season legislative, the regular guy who works across the aisle. he's going to bring the country together. but in fact, he has done something very different. and he's also very unusual because is very much a president with a tiny sliver of a majority in both houses. but instead of you an extra ordinarily divisive agenda. and the rhetoric coming out of this administration is just an amazing device that is actually setting americans against one and other ways that the well erupt into violence science. so just in the past week, during the, the 10 year memorization of the martin luther king patch you, he talked about white supremacy as the braces, the threat to the united states of domestic terrorist threat to the united states.

no evidence ball this. we have is justice department again this week said, well the big problem is the red line, a body to which the back of the do the because the racism are unable to get loans from bank. i'm like white people. we have again, it all out of widen ranting and raving about be vaccinated and the right that they both just to the vacillated diet house that these people, some is all extraordinary matter, just generating as much hatred toward one another as possible. and it's kind of surprising because again, even obama leads to the 1st who actually did have a banjo majority, was very careful to avoid triggering conflict and he tried to be bothered all united by any of that. so it's a, it's a mysterious agenda. you go wonder what, what's really behind this,

but i think it's a very dangerous agenda because i think that behavior that is now being generated, which i think is also reflective. he's taking poll numbers, putting the, the rock into violence. you know, the interesting thing is, is the joe by person higher, you know, how century career and politics is never we can, we should, for anything. you just looks at where the wind is blowing here and, but he's an administration listen hemsley ideological. so it kind of drop on like georgia 7 think this is almost like the worst of all possible worlds because he's not really in id was he does mimicked and repeat ideological desktop. so okay, but i mean like, great, great, great sense of ease because there's no authenticity here. i mean, neither obviously talk and bumper stickers. and you said in the 1st part of the brother, he's very much a bumper sticker president right now. and as george pointed out with the business

of margins, ok, there's hope to be another f, b r, another l b j. well, both huge margins in congress and the bike doesn't. and we have a country spirally down. and i think because of beside the ology and the culture wars, i mean, one thing that we've all noticed that you know, george and i and many pages. and that's kind of hard to dislike your bike. true anymore. it's very easy to like it is because of this idea. if you go ahead, oh, well, it's exactly true what you just said and you know, when they came to power, there was some hope you're rushing the. so both extra circles that you don't mind can is a service. he's not ready to go. so soon relate to things. going to come down because he is a center. well, sandra is inside at the society itself is inside a regular in your widget. now look, nice people, i mean most of the group will just be in the,

in nazi germany and started. union are done by the centrist, you know, by people who just went with the flow and did everything. it was supposed to be done. you know the banana weevil, so by the repeat these things that he actually doesn't believe him because he's 20 years ago. so 2 years ago he said very different things right. about what he's bought, sort of very risky, and i will see you this projects. i mean, these green new deals. that's all what happens in europe, you know, i recently, germany prided to sell all get out of nuclear energy. your bonds are shut down and fall into today will read in the side, which is the main georgia german. and you can use an article by nissan to 1.4 stake we played the crowds. you know, the one thing you can do is to play into which caused by doing something that we should have kept and you know, want to sell disposable one. the rush is called responsible, right?

and we have the energy crisis out of the way with all russia, even though they know that they just have to register the most you to pipeline and the problem will be resolved, right? and the end, the, the rectory. so d v as if you are up so you write this variable full in the area, you'll find them, you know, which is only comparable to jimmy conscious. you know, the terrible flying down in the 1st months of your presence. and i think it is explained to a certain extent barrio by, by these failed centuries centers incite radicalism. stanfield inside that society is not nice in georgia, just as in the parallel to the 1st part of our program is like, you know, we're talking about nato expansion. and, and then the blaming need to extension the rush because rush is a threat. it ends up being this really weird logic. the same thing is happening with this administration with the american people. they are prodding more

conservative people so intensely that they're demanding a reaction. and it's a c, c, c. how see how aggressive these people are. you see what i mean? i mean, when to, when they're there, they're projecting. i mean, they're actually doing what they say. everyone else is. go ahead. george. yes, yes, no question. and i think as a very good example, what you're saying is, what's being done now to the january, the people are the punishment and the humiliation that is being inflicted on them to receive any kind of collection with crimes. alleged crimes if they had committed is all about teaching, southern people a lesson, you're like what we do see how you are treated. and you know, if i can take a page out of a book, i mean, most of the talks about the soviet experience. and in some ways what, what the bible people is not unlike well, the bolsheviks did some people, so groups of people are elevated, you know,

they're special. everybody else is vermin. and whatever, we don't do them, they deserve it. so, you know, with the boss, because the proletariat, so here, if you're black, you're a person of color, asian american, then you know, you are, you are a victim, your sanctified, you know, do whatever you want. if you're a male again, you know, you forget it, you're out of here. so, so we again last week and the by the ministration, coming out with a strategy to deal with gender equality and equity and all about how, you know, with women and girls are being persecuted discriminated against them. all. is this the show? man, all boys are falling behind you holding the book that is in jobs may oh so it's i, it is on the rise. and yet, but i get to look at know about the only people that we should be concerned about is are the women or girls that's, that's all. yeah. you know, you came across,

but there was a gender person that lives as a, as a, as a woman. but this person was elevated and they're saying this is a victory for, for women. but i don't understand that it seems to be a defeat for women in my opinion. anyway, i'm not as well as other people. it's quite obvious here. ok demon. where does this go? because we were more and more. so when we gathered together, we are invoking the bolshevik experience, okay. and there will be any with this, the little pepper oven. and then we mentioned more parallels. and now it seems to be a direct reflection here. go ahead. well, i would say it's not going to be really genuine because ultimately, but it is now, what is the sued for most of the day after not just borrow the features?

is this constant threat, you know? oh, he said we're going to die. you don't expend our lab and how, you know, it turned out to be alive because after the war, germany bras. but one of my small with energy right. in the same way, all the plane, it's going to die. and the climate is going to change dramatically unless we immediately immediately spend this $3500000.00 in europe. what's going on in europe can boyland hungry christian gates for, for not in the wine. and when the british prime minister made a speech and the european parliament a few days ago, presenting his arguments, they were all refuted by from germany who just sense what you said. what you said makes you happy. you know, then yeah, give us just what you said makes you happy. that means you should stop and spoken to me. so unfortunately we're going down the road. there are threats, you know,

was i just how or climate change? you know, if you can just drop isn't enough, there are people who are demonized like goldstein in the oils, nor will put you in the, in the western media know what she g p maybe tomorrow. busy right, so unfortunately we have the same, same narratives repeated themselves and i don't know where it will lead us. i can only hope. ringback that it won't lead us to the they will last us that we, the humanity endure during their world war 2 and during their experiments. but it talks more and more like the fact of millions of people killed both. first hundreds of thousands of people in iraq in the history and every piece of so 100 percent. right. and george, i mean, when you, when you have you disregard the humanity of the people,

you hate that it only sets up the beginning of a cascading disaster for 20 seconds to george, finish it up or exactly. and i think just to continue with the analogy of the fact that the record already the ground is being lazy. but if the vitamin station gets us will be call the in the next year. then the blame lies with always the old republican government governor's, the legislatures that have changed the voting rules to prevent cheating. no, they were denying the rights of the people who bowed. and goes though, is that it just be it in the election road or lead me ok, dental and i want to make it to pass in here in moscow and what they are watching as you've seen next time. remember, ah ah

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