this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great, but the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together with ah, yeah, it has to be rash, to be able to afford enzyme and find the luxury that for sure. despite having the most expensive health care system in the world, we have poor life expectancy. we have higher infant mortality. we have more deaths from treatable causes. so americans are suffering every day from it. it's as if these people don't count. i saw how you can choose your customers and dump a sick so also

a can satisfy their wall street investors. no parents should have to see what i saw. if you're denying payment for someone's care, your make life and death decision and determine to get to live and who dies to me this best getting away with murder ah, ah ah ah hello and welcome to crossed out. were all things are considered. i'm beulah belts . the more nato tries to explain itself, the more obvious this cold war relic needs to be retired and for good. also,

joe biden told us he wanted to be the great unifier, unlike the evil orange man. indeed, now there is growing unity in the dislike of bye. ah. to discuss these issues then more i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel l. e. in budapest, he's a podcast or at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have to meet re bobbitt. she is a political adult and editor in us me internet media project, or gentleman cross our rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to my 1st year daemon. there's a saying in politics, the more you're explaining, the more you're losing. and it seems to me this applies to nato because it has a number of different narratives going on out there. we had spoken by the head of nato recently in washington, and just, you know, if on cue, you know,

it's all about china and russia and china. it's getting kind of pathetic now. i mean, as i said, if you're explaining it means you're losing, go ahead and walk back. i've been seeing it in the last 2 weeks. was very contradictory. he gave an interview with the moon. you know, the spanish newspaper were basically reduced into bumper stickers like russia were going to contain china where i want to engage, even though it's aggressive. and again, instead of going to watch that, she gives an interview for the financial times where she says, oh, you know, the threats are global. so russia and china are basically the same. it's my big threat that we need to deal together. well, i think that the story was me over the years before the world war 2, you know, when italy and sometimes finland, you know, they, they wanted to be l. i. so here to us, doing their small little things, you know,

all the terror just next to the like the 30 of wanted to take greece and some of the islands. the famous probably wanted to take part of korea after they were there by started in june 9th, but then he told them, oh i helped you in that is will race know with me graphs. you know, the field. people told them, oh, you talked about of korea now help me to do. besieged grad yes. and they had to go. so the same story here is the poor doesn't want to fight china. you know, the last, the boy hungry want to do, you know, is to find china. they want to settle their scores with russia. that's true. and that's very unfortunate. but washington just, you know, forces them name to follow suit. it forces them into a global confrontation. and then from predictable, you know, what sort of the big we'll say next week is unpredictable. you know,

it's in our company. there's no geo political strategy here. it's not coherent. you don't charge, you know, when it's that back from it. i mean, at the end of the day is as much as nathan wants to claim that brushes some kind of security threat to the european count in the western part of the year. asia landmass. the end of the day, the russians really don't care much anymore. i mean, they think they're so important, these europeans will not go ahead. yeah, that's right. i think it's striking that years go by and later is unable to articulate any kind of a rationale for its existence. and that's why it comes along with all these contradictory basement, but well, you know, where, where in the business of the new concept determines and defense in the euro, atlantic area. so then issue is ok. so russia is the enemy. well,

ross is very aggressive. what watch on russia engaged with us in a way, you know, we have to talk to russia. the problem is, the nato is creating the very problems that he turns around is that, well, we all the solutions of the problem. because let's just say what happened in the last 2 weeks, they expelled this mess up from nato and said, well, we're coming back when you're a presence nature. well, we're actually just on around the so we were tired of all this time. being these accusations, we just do a song and say, we're closing down your office and most of that nature uses that you are look at how aggressive russia is. so same thing with the us defense secretary. last week he went to visit the georgia. you brain romania and the

last to george and you gray, the daughter nato. a membership is over for, you know, how the nato, the united states explained russia to respond to the opposite. they go to respond with a considerable trepidation which then show them about guns or are you saying were right or aggressive. how there mouthing off of the grading in nature? no, i mean the interesting thing is that when austin was on a tour, i think the secretary of defense, it's beginning that there. why did you members of the nato alliance that moment are not seen on c expansion of alliance to include georgia in ukraine. let me throw that to emma, right? because again, i mean is expansion. the goal is the status quo that go over the horizon. is that or is it just everything and nothing at the same time?

because basically they're continuing to search for reason to continue their existence. and we've just said on this program, 5 minutes and 31 seconds in a number of things. ok. but ever since your purposes of the time and im at the same time you had tore a new one here trying to improve relations or stop the deterioration. and then the secondary depends a week later goes around and is you know, counting on drums. i mean, i don't see any coherence here. go ahead. well, unfortunately, there are many traditions, but you should always expect the horse with me, joe, because basically the narrative, you know, the last 7 year students in started was like russia. you are paranoid, the major is not going to spend and ukraine. it's not on the agenda. we have heard it many times, i know suddenly stalled and says, oh, russia should not be afraid on the expansion of nato into your brain. nature is a defensive alliance. you know, after 7 years,

a war in which russia actually did not a lot, but the west keep saying the brush is fight in ukraine. russia is waging a war on your brain. your grade is going to be, you go to a huge military of ours and then you know that the one says, oh, don't worry. you have a war with this. but there's going to join the defense you for alliance. so you'll have nothing to worry about. just loss. so the same story with the, with our marriage, like, ok, you are a north atlantic treaty organization. what are you doing in the pacific, you know, against china black, what, why is pacific when did pacific became? because also when you're great, there are so many stories like that before. like one of the you was expansion is, is some partnership they included barrows. we asked them why not? why don't you include russia? well, because we are a union or partnership of democratic, what is bill? are we doing there? oh no, it's just, you know, a conscious gender ethically close to us. what does that mean? you're doing that?

you know, we're close to that. i mean, the school is just, you know, will you please just take it. this is damon also, you know, the partnership agreements are going to the western hemisphere. now as well. the rationale is for that they're not predictable, but your goal is expect the horse because what is behind it is a very region ideology which wants to reform the wall according to the ultra liberal modem in which views big god, just such as russia and china ass books, the goal was achieving that goal. in order to remove these obstacles. anything go, you can ally, of course, you can organize on was and them say that these are people's rebellions. 38, but he's been killed in q during what we're supposed to get peaceful demonstration . you know, the really elected president who somehow is not legally let the president because

he, he was going to be pro ration, you know, wanted to join the association agreement, but still, somehow it was pro ration, right? so these people will y, as they will use violence and they will use a new pin as long as they feel impunity. the reason you know, you know, stole them back, is steady las about them from now it breaks my heart to see what's going on there. why is it the break in your career should be breaking your career? not your heart. instead we hear from you or i just feel sad about that. so don't your mom didn't everything as far, nothing is stopping with the earthy and members of the nato to go in there. stopping and george been stopping them very. exactly. well, i mean, we have not those of the europeans complaining. well, americans didn't jo that they were planning to withdraw from me. you know, we feel betrayed by the lack of confidence enough. well hey, i did. you want to take up the fact that it's out of the door is open,

but it's what's interesting is the, the nate, so dishonest, because they know there's just no way that made the member say, such as germany are going to agree to ukraine membership. so what they're really doing is essentially by having a de facto membership and others, they're actually getting more or more troops and miss styles than weapon race stationed in you, ukraine becomes a de facto nato space. same thing with, i mean, in general or, you know, you know, we may need to, yes, but they don't remember that make us so what does that create? well, as far as that is a secure, right? and this is something that said, again at the discussion, you know, when we see miss styles cargo, you know, that's the only we worry about. this is what nato is doing. so there is again,

this, the dishonest of majors doing this artificially. and when they were the russians done around the say, well, we don't like what you're doing. well, we're, we're defensive. where defense, those no evidences defense. we know, you know, maybe you can solve it. how does that defensive going to sound? how is that defense? and also georgia, you and i've talked about elsewhere, is that specifically about your brain. nato membership is the key to e u membership. that's the, it's always nato 1st. then you and this is what is counting on here. also, we're creating a slippery slope and moral hazard gear because the lens is getting more and more reckless with his actions and his language. and he's being encouraged by washington . well, the european members of nate know, are much more cautious. go ahead, finish office once. yeah, that's, that's exactly right, and that's why this became a moral hazard. when you have nato, and you have lloyd austin telling me,

flat out on the road to nato is open for you. how. what are they gonna respond? it's up to us to start generating all kinds of crises. so then washington and those around that was right. this nato is the solution to your problem. and this is why is the, you know, may have the option that we're just saying out of this. it's up to you to have better relations with your neighbors, may, does it not to do that. instead, nato is continually aggravating the problem by essentially processing a membership of nato and the you down the road on the same thing in georgia. and so it is, an absolute has to well peace. and what is happening is naples putting the sovereignty of ukraine and state. your general, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, did you want to really say, oh, for

oh, is your media a reflection of reality? in a world transformed what will make you feel safer? isolation or community? are you going the right way? or are you being led to somewhere? direct? what is true? what is great? in the world corrupted, you need to descend, ah, join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah,

ah! welcome back to process for all the inter considered. i'm funeral a bell. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah okay, let's go back to george. and i wanna tell my viewers here at how we decide to do my topics on, on our bullhorn edition here. um and from the home edition, and i always ask demo because demand george very often on what they would like to do and they send me topics and what is a guys 99 percent of the time i agree with you. so george, you wanted to talk about how to visit joe joe biden is the floor is yours, go. well, if you're around the pizza,

by this whole stay during the election was that he was going to bring the country together off to the device, the trunk, and all the aggravation and all the tweeting and everything of trump. he buys these season legislative, the regular guy who works across the aisle. he's going to bring the country together. but in fact, he has done something very different. and he's also very unusual because is very much a president with a tiny sliver of a majority in both houses and, but instead he has the you an extra ordinarily divisive agenda. and the rhetoric coming out of this administration is just an amazingly divisive is one that is actually setting americans against one and other ways, the well erupt into violence science. so just in the past week, during the,

the 10 years member ration of the market moves against you. he talked about white supremacy as the braces, the threat to the united states of domestic terrorist read through the united states. no evidence ball this. we have is justice department again this week said, well the big problem is the red line, a bodies which black us about due to because the racism are unable to get loans from bank. unlike white people, we have a game for a lot of biden ranting and raving about be vaccinated and the right that they both are just to the vacillated tire house system that these people saw it is all extraordinary lateral, just generating as much hatred toward one another. as possible, and it's kind of surprising because again, even obama leads to the 1st who actually did have a banjo majority,

was very careful to avoid triggering conflict and he tried to be bothered all united by any of that. so it's a, it's a mysterious agenda. you go wonder what, what's really behind is i think it's a very dangerous agenda because i think that behavior that is now being generated, which i think is also reflective. he's taking poll numbers, putting the, to rugged into violence. you know, the interesting thing is, is the joe by person higher, you know, half century career and politics is never really for anything just looks at where the wind is blowing here and, but he's an administration lives intensely ideological. so it kind of drop home at georgia 7 think this is almost like the worst of all possible worlds because he's not really an idea was he does mimicked and repeat ideological desktops. ok,

great, great, great sense of unease because there's no off anticipate here. i mean, neither obviously talk and bumper stickers that you said in the 1st part of the program. he's very much a bumper sticker president right now. and as george pointed out with the been is the margins. ok. there's hope to be another f, b r, another l b j. well, both that huge margin thing congress and the bike doesn't we have a countries biling down. and i think because of beside the ology and the culture wars, i mean, one thing that we've all noticed does that mean george and i in many pages and that's kind of hard to dislike your bite, but not true anymore. it's very easy to like it is because of this idea. if you go ahead, oh, well, it's exactly true what you just said and you know, when that came to power, there was some hope you're rushing the so both expert circles biting is a service. he's not ready to go. so one way to think when to come down because use

a center well, centrist inside, at the site itself is inside a regular and your widget. now look nice people. i mean, most of the group will just be in the, in nazi germany. and so if you are done by the centrist, you know, by people who just went with the flow and did everything it was supposed to be done . you know, the banality, olivo. so by the repeat these things that he actually doesn't believe in 20 years ago. so 2 years ago he said very different things, right? he's a boy sort of very risky and i will see you this projects are going to be green, you deals that's wrong. what happens in europe, you know, i recently, germany prided to sell or get out of nuclear energy. bonds are shut down. and some of the today will read in the side, which is the main georgia german. and you'd have to use an article by nissan to

assess or take when played or do you have, you know, the one thing you can do is to play into which caused by doing something that we should have kept. and, you know, want to tell disposable well, the rush is called response, right? and we have the energy crisis out of the way with all russia, even though they know that they just have to register the most you to buy plan and the problem will be resolved, right? and the end of the rhetoric is so, des, if you are up so the right of this variable full in the area, you'll find that, you know, which is only comparable to jimmy conscious. you know, terrible slide down in the 1st months of your presence. and i think it is explained to a certain extent barrio by these failed centuries centers inside radicalism, santian inside there is, this is not nice georgina, this is in the parallel for the 1st part of our program is like, you know,

you're talking about nato expansion and and then the blaming nature, extension russia because rush is a threat. i mean, a ends up being this really weird logic. the same thing is happening with this administration with the american people. they are prodding more conservative people so intensely that they're demanding a reaction and it's a c, c, c. how see how aggressive these people are. you see what i mean? i mean, when to, when they're there, they're projecting, i mean, they're actually doing what they say. everyone else is go ahead or yes, yes, no question. and i think as a very good example, what you're saying is what's being done now to the january, the people are the punishment and the humiliation that is being inflicted on them far exceeds any kind of collection with crimes. alleged crimes if they had committed is all about, you know, teaching some people a lesson, you're like, what we do see how you are treated. and you know, if i can take

a page out of the book, i mean, up and talks about the soviet experience and the, some of these, well what the bible b b is not on the light. well, the bolsheviks did so people, so groups of people are innovative, you know, they're special. everybody else is just bowman and whatever, we don't do them, they deserve it. so, you know, with the boss, because the proletariat. so here, if you're black or person of color, asian american, then you know, you are, you are a victim, your sanctify, you do whatever you want. if you're a male, again, you know, you forget it, you're out of here. so, so we again last week and the by the ministration, coming out with a strategy to deal with gender equality and equity and all about how you know, where women and girls are being persecuted discriminated against them. all sophistic show that man, all boys are falling behind you holding the book that is in jobs, mail,

suicide is on the rise. and yet, but it gets a little can know about the, the only people that we should be concerned about is, are the women or girls that's, that's all. yeah. you know, you came across it, but there was a transgender person that lives as a, as a, as a woman. but this person was elevated and they're saying this is a victory for, for women. but i don't understand that it seems to be a defeat for women. okay. in my opinion anyway, i'm not as well as other people. it's quite obvious here. ok, demon. where does this go? because we were more and more. so when we gather together, we are invoking the bolshevik experience. okay. and then it could be any, was just a little pepper oven. and then we mentioned more parallels. and now it seems to be a direct reflection here. go ahead. well,

i would say it's more important than the theory, the general, because ultimately bernard is now is the 3rd for most of the day after not just borrow the features. is this constant threat, you know? oh, he said, we're going to die. you don't expect our live and how, you know it turned out to be alive because after the war driven you brought. but one of my small, right? in the same way, all the plan, it's going to die. and the climate is going to change dramatically unless we immediately immediately despair. the $3500000.00, right. and in europe, what's going on in europe? you know, boyland hungary castigated for for not in the wine. and when the british prime minister made a speech and the european parliament a few days ago, presenting his arguments, they were all refuted by from germany who just said what you say,

what you said makes you happy. you know, then yeah, give us just what you said makes you happy. that means you should stop at the meeting. so unfortunately we're going down the road. there are threats, you know, was i just or climate change, whatever. you know, if you can just drop isn't enough, there are people who are demonized like goldstein in the oils, nor will put you in the western media, know what she g p maybe tomorrow. right. so unfortunately we have the same same narratives repeated themselves. and i don't know where it will lead us. i can only hope that it won't lead us to that they will last us that we the many g endure during their world war 2 and during their experiments. but it talks more and more like the fact that millions of people killed both 1st hundreds of thousands of

people in iraq in the history and every pizza. so 100 percent. that's right. and george, i mean, when you, when you have you disregard the humanity of the people you have that it only sets up the beginning of cascading disaster for 20 seconds to george, finish it up or? yes, exactly. and i think just to continue with the analogy of the fact that the wreckers already the ground is being lazy. but if the, by the ministration gets absolutely call the in the next year, then the blame lies with always the old republican government governor's alleges, such as that have changed the rules to prevent cheating. no, they were denying the rights of the people to vote. and because of though, is that it just be it in the election road lead. okay gentlemen, that, but i want to thank my guests in budapest and here in moscow and what they are watching as you've seen next time, remember,

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