yes, in the world politics sport, business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. mm. ah, children, a song supporters say no reason to believe washington's from as soon as he could serve his sentence in australia as you pay court in london. besides, what does a holiday with you dinner songs to us? throughout the day, all provo figures have been showing up to demand a song should be granted freedom. he would spend the rest of the july at a super max prison in the united states. what kind of life is that to look for 2 companies can help crime and telling a world the truth, a solution to the energy crisis. this and other big issues of being discussed that an economic form in italian city over rhona today. the opponents, future shaping voices from europe and asia all getting together. to brainstorm a key figure from january's capitol hill right. she was caught on camera

encouraging people to storm the building is quality removed from the eyes most wanted list. that's prompted questions about his background. ah or from oscar? thanks for joining us tonight or not ethan. i shall. i'm daniel hawkins. revenue was knights. welcome to the program and the fate of the we can expound a julian a song she is in the hands of the you case high court. the sag us extradition hearing has just ended though a verdict might take weeks. the i saw she wanted by washington on 17 challenges of espionage and one of conspiracy to happen. government computer is convicted. he could face a prison sentence of

a 175 years. heard from ortiz shot, it was dashed, he was outside the court for us, an independent journalist, richard met us, who's been watching the whole hearing by a special law stream. the judge has just said they will take everything into consideration, but no ruling was handed out immediately. yesterday, the entire day was devoted to hearing arguments performed by the prosecution for the grounds of appeal. why they wanted to appeal the judge's decision not to extra songs. and there were 5 grounds of appeal in today, the defense was able to respond to these points and the, to the 2 main topics, or of course, a phone, just health. and the assurance of the diplomatic assurance is given by the united states. now, in terms of health, what the prosecution have been trying to do is accuse a key medical, extra witness professor compliment of being disingenuous of misleading the court by just by refusing to disclose by concealing the identity of a son, just partner stella morris. and the 2 children. busy and today in court, we finally heard the yahoo news story, the investigative journalism that was done

a few weeks ago where 30 us officials confirmed what we already knew from anonymous testimony, that the c i was discussing, plans to potentially kidnap or poison julie massage in london, and so this was brought up in the context of why a couple of men why professor coleman did not disclose the identity of a son, just partner and their 2 children, because he feared for their safety. right. and in fact, one of the expert medical witnesses called by the prosecution doctor blackwood also knew a lot of phones as children, but didn't disclose that in his medical report. they didn't seem to care about that . so they've been trying to chip away at his expertise and integrity because of a technicality. when it comes to the assurances that the united states is giving, they say that julian, a songs can service sentence in australia, but australia has not even indicated if they will take julian his arms. this is a process that could take many years, which he would spend either an administrative segregation, which is effectively solitary confinement or special administrative measures sounds . so the question is, who will be in australia by then will they want to take julian authority and when

it comes to a sort of assurances the united states has previously previously given a short and says to that to mendoza from spain, people who were extradited to the united states on a promise of being given psychiatric medical care. and then they, they ended up being sent to a, the ex lawrence where, you know, this is an, essentially a federal super maximum prison where assange will most certainly go. so they're been trying to play this point, that administrative segregation is not the same thing as, as sam's. but the truth is that you and assange will most definitely be placed in at least administrative segregation. and if not, he'll be sent to a special housing unit. so there's a wide array of tools that the united states can use to break him once he's on us soil and they most certainly will get richer. they're already many analysts to who are suspicious that perhaps this will be dragged out weeks, months, even years. and julian assigns will just live perpetually in some sort of a prison, whether it's bell marsh in the u. k. of potentially in america, or even as you say, in australia, your life there in vienna, you are watching the hearing through a special live stream. now let's cross over to london outside the u. k. high court

ortiz at shot, it was dashed, he's still there, shout, you've had a busy day with lots of a song. just support is where you are now today. tell us about how it was today. i know you were speaking to friends and family of julian assange. people outside of the rural course of justice has been very vocal nearly 48 hours now in defense of the linux. it's not just the louisa, the furious with washington. the people here on the street as well, particularly in regards to the fact that the united states is totally discrediting units on just psychiatric evaluations. done assessments and we need to register and he sent to me earlier today and he said that they're still living in some high that justice and will be sad on the medical ground. common sense and justice seems to be often far away. so i have to retain a certain level of skepticism, lawrence in the system when the assessing the possibilities. but we certainly hope that you all come will be that the high court will simply say he cannot be

expedited. this is an opportunity for the them to reassert administration or li an john, why? oh, journalist all around the world. well, it's not just campaigners, but in fact, members of parliament here in the united kingdom came out in full today. arguing that all of this evidence presented today is prove that this case is 100 percent. politically motivated, especially considering all that junior scientists insured over the last 10 years, really near a decade, all of all given the un adopted as psychological torture over the years, but also in humane treatment in what's known as a black flight. that was london's ecuador, and embassy, all the evidence we've gotten, all the experience they've gotten united states is that they would go just for a max prison on a sentence 475 years. he would spend the rest of his life in

a super max prison in the united states. what kind of life is that to look through with no crime? i've been telling the world the truth. it is a total injustice. we send this man to america, to the time, to the lot of assess in many of the park when people have said he should be killed . so they won't treat him as a human being. so they want to make an example of giving the son by treating him so badly by trying to break him. so that gives a lesson to all the gym with . how do not want to go. mom did not want to come out and continued. didn't want to suppress many campaign is a hailing janice onto the hay round today. they've been incredibly vocal for their 10 hours today. 10 hours yesterday chilling thing, free, free junior college. nothing in his trial from last year even to now is for every

single instant than any other pool is low in anywhere in the world. this would have been for, for, for this to be continuing is absolutely ridiculous. there, harrison, his company barrison, to be english. i mean paul's, in the high coach, vin justice is wise to become the friend in the laws in every way i can just to ensure that it is sizing and to the dice, i think is the plan. the united states prison system is a form of degradation of humans to be treated worse than any animals to be treated . certainly efforts are made to discourage particular kinds of bravery. courage, it will all, some would say the, the insolence, the impedance to stand up to power and support his own campaign to say it's not just during massage in the dark, but say to sit the fundamental principles and tennis of the freedom of press coverage, right? to access that information i spoke earlier with name colton from the blueprint for

free speech organization who says a song, his case has become politicized. so let's put sort of extra, extra legal threats to one side. so the moment is if he ultimately wins this case in the u. k, i mean, i don't think you guys wouldn't stay here. i don't think he necessarily has any standing in the u. k. he would have to go somewhere else, i guess, to the whole options that he goes to a stranger, because that's where he has citizenship. as things son, there's nothing to stop the 5 digit ministration starting extradition proceedings again and join to actually from australia. this then becomes a question. so for the buys miss ministration is like, do you really want to continue with this? no matter what it says about your belief in preston, the preston is also full straight school to me all day getting. so they entertain such a threat from the united states. so it moves, sad very much from law and into policy. i think green

reforms and the energy supply crisis is some of the big questions looking to be on the raise your ration comic forum. the 3 day event gathers to get a big hit is from the business world and beyond. and is underway in northern italy's verona with more details on what's been already set up before him. he is our correspondence shot at the sky. what was an electric atmosphere here with the eurasian economic forum in the beautiful city of verona? where the discussions have been looking at and picking the energy crisis that the european union, the european continent is facing at the moment. now in a start with some of the words spoken by get how to schroeder, the former german chancellor, who said that at the moment politicians and the media in europe, we're looking to point the finger at russia saying that it was to blame for this crisis. but in reality, they didn't want to understand what it was, the energy crisis at the moment he outlined what he believed were the factors

involved combat vc, prior year period, energy demand in or europe, in markets increase sickness taken apparently in the 1st half of 2020 bottle, the key factor here was the economy which they covered after the cobit 9 can bet this is same period last year. gas demand in the 6th largest european market. germany, france, the netherland italy, spain. the united kingdom increased by 12 percent in the 1st half of 2020 born. also to also said that the in you need to think about discussion and dialogue rather than accusations. he said that the transition from the traditional fossil fuel energy to the green energy was a major project. and what was needed right now was energy security for him back

comes from gas. now that transition form at the fossil fuel energy to the green energy was also criticized by several of the other participants. one saying that, you know, it's like saying let's stop production and publishing of encyclopedias and just assuming that google will happen. of course he said, fact not what happens, what's needed is a major rosemont to ensure that this transition is much more smooth. there was also a pick up on that theme from the president and the c e o of rosner, who warned that the energy courses at the moment is impacting other industries too . and he said that the shows that the wrong decision can have a major impact or she is assuaged on the rush, is helping to solve the energy crisis, giving a stable supply of gas to europe and fulfilling all contractual obligations this year has shown that the wrong decisions over climate policies can lead to serious consequences for the entire world economy and society. it seems that in some cases,

advocates of an early move away from fossil fuels ignore the risks of imminent market imbalance. energy projects, a long term and the choices we make. now, will determine the future, the global energy sector for a decade to carbon. there also calls for the oil and gas industry to be much more involved in the discussions. whole is transition saying you may not like it, but all actors need to be involved. and the people in the meantime will have to change how they use their electricity. there was also a warning that this transition to the green energy will certainly mean one thing that is higher price is all of us. we spoke also to klaus mangold, the chairman of mangold, consulting. he says, alternative energies needs to be developed, but without abandoning the traditional di release it, we have to be very careful about what we are doing. we cannot turn to chat about

our fancy nuclear and not being active any more in coal and sin, nuclear will be important in the future. in europe, we have to intensify what we are doing in terms of renewables. and especially as well we saving energy, but i guess we'll be a swill of one of the future of our energy needs and we can it sola and we can it wind. but we need, we know, israel says is, is our assumptions what time we have a chance after let me say 5 years to brings a cost sound. but in the meantime, i believe industry households will have to pay much more set up to now, and people will certainly as well, think about what to do with consumption. said she, and you're not international. more news coming away just after this short break. ah,

so he say this statistic that 90 percent of the well to sell by 10 percent of the population and they added trillions of dollars to their net worth since the pandemic. one would look out on to the american landscape and look at all the wonderful innovation. these folks have brought people to their lives. oh wait, hold on. life expectancy is down, infant mortality is up wilson income gap between widening to genie coefficient looks terrible. death of despair are exploding. so i think it's natural to conclude that all this money printing is not feeding. ameristock or c is back that's fading at tack a stock, or se rule by the least qualified so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is on offense. very dramatic development. only personally

and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk. oh, wrote them back. now it's not often someone disappears entirely from ali, so infamous as the f. b i's most wanted. and that's what happens in one man said to be one of the key figures in january is capitol hill riots in washington. it was caught on camera telling people to school the building and school some including members of the republican party raising questions about who exactly the mysterious figure is. in the bullpen picks up the story. an individual featured in videos calling for people to enter the capital building even before the january 6 capital riot and was seen on the day. january 6,

ushering crowds into the capital building has been identified by law enforcement as arizona resident re, apps re apps in arizona, a man seen inviolate circulated video is telling trump support is on multiple occasions to go into the capitol also seemed to have acted on his own, i don't know what to say, don't be a rebel. as i said, we need, we need to know. i'll say, we need to go in to the camera let go. ah, not surprisingly, he was on the f. b, i's most wanted list and was referred to as suspect. 16 for some time f, b i w f o is seeking the public's assistance in identifying those who made unlawful entry into the u. s. capital building on january the 6th. but now suspect 16 has been scrubbed from the f b i website. now if you take

a look at the way back machine from archive dot org, you can see that from january 8th, 2021, all the way until june, 30th suspect 16 was pretty clearly highlighted. but suddenly, on july, 1st, he wasn't on the website any longer. now if he'd been arrested, he would still be on the website just with arrested under his name, like others who have been apprehended. but he's not, he's just been scrubbed. this has prompted lawmakers to ask questions about whether or not there were f b. i provocative tours who may have helped events on january 6th to go the way they did for us, we can find this individual has not been charged with anything. can you tell us without talking about particular incidence or particular videos? how many agents are assets of the federal government were present on january 6, whether they agitated to go into the capital and if any of them did a so i'm not going to violate this norman of follow the rule of law. i'm not going

to comment on an investigation that's ongoing. now the capital breach database has no entries or listings for re apps to some. that's a pretty big red flag. the ongoing mystery of re apps, he repeatedly appears in videos encouraging and inciting an invasion of the capital on january the 6th. yet for some reason has not yet been indicted or charged even as people with far less involvement have been rapes is a free man. he has never been arrested or charged nearly 10 months after july. the 6th, the f b i in justice department still refused to comment on with the eps has ever been served. a search warrant the f b i is record when it comes to things like protests and provocations is not exactly squeaky clean. people can look up the history of cohen tell pro infiltration and other dirty deeds. if january 6th is such a pivotal date in us history as it's being presented, surely questions like those surrounding suspect? 16 demand answers. caleb martin,

r t new york 10 ridge university of trying to pass it's woke exams sits online libraries, slapping trigger warnings on tax and flagging words deemed potentially offensive, such as roaches language. all would the help of a flat taxpayer funded grant. the news is that will help protect the new generation of students from having their feelings hurt. some of the materials a hundreds of years old. so they never to play contain out of date views that many young readers would find hurtful and offensive. or some $10000.00 books and magazines being uploaded to cambridge, your digital archive could be flag, include numerous children's books such as house on the prairie for it's their typical depictions of native americans also works by dr theodore sky. so due to their alleged cultural insensitivity, critics of slam, no dears, unnecessary and potentially leading to censorship. useless universities

spattering millions of pounds on anything but agitation, it's money, our children have got to pay back. the awful people. this is very confusing. doesn't most literature become politically incorrect outside of its place in history? in my opinion, the important piece is ensuring history is truthfully tucked so literature can be put in perspective. cambridge university wants to be the parent. they do not believe you have the ability to take care of your child's outlook on the world. soft censorship. well, let's get some more opinions on this. i'm sure. now by avi del journalist, i'm comedian john gaunt. radio talk show host and columnists and gary study science, education, advisor, and former teacher. thank you for coming on today on the program. good. have you with us loud. this is going to cost $80000.00 pounds of taxpayers money. is this money well spent over a fax, a fork and pops go to you for us?

do you think this is the right way to go about this? yeah, absolutely. i me, minorities, a tech space to a place as well. so why no, i have to wait frame like a taxpayer money like we don't contribute in any kind of way. and it's wasted on asked to, you know, i just don't like that. it was the framing of it. john, this initiative is intended to protect students and stop them having a feeling such thought being offended or what so bad about that? surely this is something to be welcomed. when i went to university, the idea was you were going to be challenges. you are going to find new ideas. so my do, you would agree with some that you wouldn't agree with. that's what universes about expanding your mind. and if student can look at the historical context and say, well, you wouldn't use those words, you wouldn't use that imagery nowadays. if they can't do that without a warning, then i worry about the future generations. our students is $80000.00 pound and i

think is a mis spend of the money. i think there's no need for it. i think it's like the statues. everything has to be put into context. but i think students are intelligent or local. they should been telling you to realize that that isn't the language now and garrath obviously, you know, times have changed times all changing alongside those changes, you know, models and practices and the tolerance among society for language behavior, which would have been okay. 102030 years ago. it's on okay. now surely universities have responsibility to young people to ensure that is observed. yeah, i mean they, they absolutely do look where we've just been talking about how much this is gonna cost. but actually, i think that's a bit of a red herring in as much as the, the cost to educational values to the whole purpose of what early

a university such as cambridge is, is all about. you know, that, that far outweighs the sort of financial of cost of, of, of what the university is doing. i, i agree with john's point that, you know, in the past people did things vow, ah, we might find strange, difficult, or, or even objectionable, but we should investigate those things and find out, you know, why we think they were in error. now that may make us feel uncomfortable, but it isn't going to harm us. and i just don't think there's any sense in the university putting health warnings on books. it's a, it's a completely antithetical to what they should be about of roaming. surely, most university students, i have a level of maturity emotional maturity and has had a chance to sort of have their wits about them. and as you know, john pointed out be exposed to a reading material which indeed may be offensive to

a generation. now may not have been offensive before, but you know, sure that should be left to them to be exposed to and to decide sort of have their wits about what i need to be told. what to think as adults already, because these are out of adults. we're talking about nobody's telling them what to think. they don't even understand this line of argument. he's saying about putting it into context and they should be able to appreciate that that's not the language to use today. but isn't that the whole point of the trigger on a people are saying, hey, this contains a french language that is in context by saying this is got offensive language in maybe races times racist stereotypes. that is the context, isn't it? i mean, what difference does it make? i don't understand if you don't like, if you don't like the way out for themselves originally came out and children, these are all people, some of the best brains in the world. i'm think they can work with their hands and talking about even talking about trigger. can i finish out the truth warnings on?

hold on to kill a mockingbird. the well racism good because my think about rate law. no, i to raise, i had to read that book, jesse and i had to sit in class and i had to hear people reading it and emphasizing racist times and stuff like that is simply about respect. if you got the offended by the fact that people might just say, hey, we appreciate this language is not used anymore, then you have to ask yourself some origin. surely. good morning. you're the one who's offended. sorry, sorry, my children, trey and trenton. will you me? i'm not getting upset about the fact that somebody is playing a trick of wanting on a book. if you don't like it, just look over it. what does it make you now? and if you don't, i don't need to book this. well, i do do have a little, i don't go if i can see why not throw out settings

a white check out if i can log in way in here. all right, john, appreciate it, dan, you're in the studio, appreciate it. it's an emotional topic of how can just jump in for a 2nd, get garrath involved, garrath. i mean, i, as of a mentioned and why is this trig awarding such, such a big deal because, you know, and what is offensive court, right? it's a one person may not be offensive to another one. but, you know, as of a pointed out from a personal experience, and some of these are books, some be sex. the language, their use may well be very hurtful and offensive to some people. and if somebody is a minority and does find offensive, shouldn't may deserve some level of protection here in a, in a word. no. and the reason for that is it's deeply it's deeply patronizing to say to a person of color, to, to say, to a woman or a member of any minority. it's deeply patronizing to say to them you will hear this and it's not natural if, if, if we're talking about last night i that isn't

a wish over about respect crap. so you could not talk overnight. what is actually nice, right? so are you doing net? you're talking about respects and then completely talking over me and not allowing me to so talk, which seems a bit silly to me, but it's deeply patronizing because it says to have any, any member of, of, of an affected group. it says to them, you will hear these words and not be able to cope. now that's just paints and nonsense. now perhaps there are some people who can't cope, but they're a very, very small minority and they should not set the tone for intellectual academic inquiry, if you cannot cope with difficult ideas, that may challenge your own views or make you feel slightly uncomfortable if you can't cope with that, you do not belong at cambridge university of or if i can get back to them back, are you in a point that you couldn't stop at, at this point?

you're on a fucking bucket. delicate sensibilities, they can't go. that's not what this is about. are for a fucking get back to you. i mean, this is probably a debate or as much about we're to draw lines as anything else. i mean, you have text some books which are and so discrimination towards all sorts of groups, sir, sexist ages, palmer, phobic, et cetera. will we be putting labels next on any sex that anybody could find a fence? i mean, where, where do we draw the line? exactly. with this sort of debate, why is he, why do you need your like if something timothy bake, i'm not from the algae beach communes. if they say that some of them find it offensive, always you're gonna find people in a group who don't find it offensive, but if some of them find a fancy and they decide to purchase a warning on for homophobia, why am i upset about that? it doesn't mean you can't cope with the language really you're, you're going to fall apart. if you read the book, the characterization that they're making of a minority communities when they are not of is just is nicholas. that's not that, that's just not. so what is a trigger warning that what is a trigger?

warning, what, why is it called a trigger? warning if you're not going to be triggered van y got pulled the trigger, it might upset some people was young. and so those on with that there's, there's, there's nothing that's my whole point. there is nothing wrong with you being upset by ideas. those are ideas are not going to harm you. i mean, you're telling me you're saying that lacy and stuff don't handle you being serious . right now. i'm saying that they study of your, your premium section in the world are challenged. that's really great. with charlie . he lives in a speak. john, john, you know, the, me, the, let me get back to you on a home and had a bit more intellectual debate. so bottom line is great. no votes.