there was no washing up on it and as you said and talked to her, i have found some trees living on it. so the consequences will be a sea level globally of about 60 maces, higher than it is today. supporters of children, songs playing there is no reason to believe washington's promise that he'll be allowed to serve any us sentencing as homeland australia, as the u. k. l. i court the liberator on whether to hand him over to the americans around the day. high profile figures have been yelled, loose alone. he would spend the rest of your life in a super max prison in the united states. what kind of life is that? with no crime, i've been telling the world the truth a solution to the energy crisis. and this and other big issues are being discussed to anthony economic form and they thought in city verona today, where prominence, future shaping voices from europe and asia are getting together. facebook no more

marks, zuckerberg analysis, mehta is a new name or his company. and apparently it's a distance from lean bottled social media joint. ah clark from oscar. thanks for joining us on auto international. i'm daniel hawkins. wherever you are, tonight's welcome to the program. and i say told to we can expand julianna's song. she's in the hands of the u. k. why court? it's us extradition hearing is just ended though a verdict might take weeks. the. i was, you didn't a sounds you wanted by washington on 17 chargers west and one of conspiracy that i could government computer if convicted, he could face

a prison sentence of 175 years. we heard from all to shut it. it was vastly, he was outside the court for us, an independent journalist, richard met hurst, who has been watching the whole hearing by a special live stream. the judge has just said they will take everything into consideration, but no ruling was handed out immediately. yesterday, the entire day was devoted to hearing arguments performed by the prosecution for the grounds of appeal. why they want to appeal a judge's decision not to extradite us on. and there were 5 grounds of appeal in today. the defense was able to respond to these points. and the 2, the 2 main topics are of course found his health and the assurance of the diplomatic assurances given by the united states. now in terms of health, what. 5 the prosecution i've been trying to do is accuse a key medical, extra witness professor compliment of being disingenuous of misleading the court by just by refusing to disclose by concealing the identity of a son, just partner stella morris and the 2 children. and today in court we finally. 5 heard the yahoo news story, the investigative journalism that was done

a few weeks ago where 30 us officials confirmed what we already knew from anonymous testimony, that the c i was discussing, plans to potentially kidnap or poison julian as on in london. and so this was brought up in the context of why a couple of men why professor coleman did not disclose the identity of a son, just partner and their 2 children because he feared for their safety. right. and in fact, one of the export medical witnesses called by the prosecution doctor blackwood also knew a lot of phones as children, but didn't disclose that in his medical report. and they didn't seem to care about that. so they've been trying to chip away at his expertise and integrity because of a technicality. when it comes to the assurances that the united states is giving, they say that julian funds can service sentence in australia, but australia has not even indicated if they will take drilling farms. this is a process that could take many years, which he would spend either an administrative segregation, which is effectively solitary confinement or special administrative measures sounds . so the question is, who will be in australia by then will they want to take julian phones?

and when it comes to a story, assurances the united states has previously previously given a short and says to homicide to mendoza, from spain, people who were extradited to the united states on a promise of being given psychiatric medical care. they were, they, they ended up being sent to a, the x lawrence where, you know, this is essentially a federal super maximum prison where assange will most certainly go. so they're been trying to play this point, that administrative segregation is not the same thing as a sam's. but the truth is that you and assange will most definitely be placed in at least administrative segregation. and if not, he'll be sent to a special housing unit. so there's a wide array of tools that the united states can use to break him once he's on us soil and they most certainly will get richer. they're already many analysts to who are suspicious, or perhaps this will be dragged out weeks, months, even years. and julian, a sorry we just live perpetually in some sort of a prison, whether it's bell marsh in the u. k. or potentially in america, or even as you say, in australia, your life there in vienna, you are watching the hearing through a special live stream. now let's cross over to london outside the u. k. high court

ortiz at shot, it was dashed, he's still the shadow. you've had a busy day with lots of a song, just support his way. you won out today. tell us about how it was today. i know you were speaking to friends and family of julian assange, people outside of the rural course of justice has been very vocal really 48 hours now in defense of the julian assad. not just the lose of the furious with washington, but people here on the streets as well, particularly in regards to the fact that the united states was totally this credit thing. i just saw just psychiatric evaluations done assessments and what you need secretary and she sent to me earlier today and he said that they are still living in some hope that justice will be sad on the medical ground. common sense and justice seems to be often far away. so i have to retain a certain level of skepticism, lawrence in the system when assessing the possibilities. but we certainly hope that you all come forward be that the high quote will simply say he cannot be expedited

. this is an opportunity for the them to reassert administration or li, a journalist all around the world. well, it's not just campaign is, but in fact, members of parliament here in the united kingdom came out in full today. arguing that all of this evidence presented today is prove that this case is 100 percent. politically motivated, specially considering all that junior scientists injured over the last 10 years, really near a decade, all of all given the un adopted as psychological torture over the years, but also in humane treatment in what's known as a black flight. that was london's ecuador, and embassy, all the evidence we've gotten, all the experiences have gotten united states is that they would go just for a max prison on a sense of 175 years. he would spend the rest of his life in

a super max prison in the united states. what kind of life is that to look for or to somebody's committed, no crime. i've been telling the world the truth. it is a total injustice. we send this man to america, to the hand, to the lot of assess in many of the puzzle people and said he should be killed. so they won't treat him as a human being. so they want to make an example of giving the son by treating him so badly by trying to break him. but that gives a lesson to all the gym with kate and others. that with those people who have do not want to go, mom did not want to come out and continue. didn't want to suppress many campaign is a hailing janice on. does it have her own today or they've been incredibly vocal for their 10 hours today? 10 hours yesterday chanting free free junior college and nothing in his trial from

last year even to now is it every single instant than any other school is blowing anywhere in the world? this would have been for now for, for this to be continuing. is absolutely ridiculous. there harrison is a being there, something pause in the high hopes of injustice is wise to become a friend in the laws in every way i can just to ensure a shirt is sites in a dice, i think is the plan united states prison system is a form of degredation of humans to be treated worse than any animal should be treated. certainly efforts are made to discourage particular kinds of bravery, courage or some would say the, the insolence, the impedance to stand up to power and support his own campaign to say it's not just hearing the sounds in the talk, but say to the funding mental principles and tenant of the freedom of press. right to access that information. life now why roger waters,

an activist and founding member of rock bands, pink floyd for more all miss roger, thanks for coming on the program. good tabby with us tonight. how concerned are you that this verdict may not go and student assange is favor and he might face a extradition? i'm extremely concerned because clearly it's a kangaroo court has nothing to do with justice, so the arguments provided or anything else i always has paid right from the kennings. so i'm, i'm deeply, deeply concerned. i just, i couldn't watch your, at that rate, that clip of the people outside the court because i'm not getting a picture here. but i heard everything they had to say. and everybody that i listen to is, is making complete sense. you know this, this is an absolute nonsense that this man has been locked up for a single day. whether it's in the ecuadorian embassy or in marsh. and this is, this is one of the most valuable human beings that we,

the human race have. amongst us, he is deeply, deeply important to the potential for this race to survive on this planet in my view. and, and, and the way he's been treating is obviously ludicrous, has nothing to do with law and order. i've thought it was interesting and i did manage to get some stuff. i didn't see a feed from the court today, but i got better, but i got a report afterwards. i thought it was interesting that the justices, there are 2 of them. i can't remember the names i haven't taken the been yet said, well this is very complicated. we're going to have to deliver about deliberate for some time before we can major judgment about before they disappeared off to, you know, for the dinner, a boot olds and large brand is, i mean, we're a crock of shit. this case is absolutely clear and cut and dry, and as some chap in the crowd said, just earlier, it should never have gone in to go in the 1st place. julian should never have been

incarcerated, and he should be set free immediately. and it's a disgrace. and i choose whoever you were in the crowd. i too am ashamed to be an englishman on this day. up to chris. it's an emotive topic. rosa. just do apologize to you. is that for the language though? excuse me. no worries, no worries. throughout this time, all for june, the songs both, i'm embassy and in prison and diaz built up a big base of support you for one among them. if he doesn't lose this case or need, if the case is sent down to a judge for another look at this whole process. what do you think the support is should or can do in that case? they should do exactly what they're doing outside the court in london's day. they should remain comforted. the right will survive in this case. they should go on

making as much noise as i can. and i should try to persuade their neighbors and their uncles and aunts and grandmas, and grandpa, and everybody that they know to take to the streets to protest it. because this is one of the most disastrous things that has ever happened in the, in the united kingdom. and so it has to be resisted with all possible measures by, as many people as we can get involved. it is a disgusting miscarriage of justice. let us not forget that the reason that this was being appealed in court by the united states of america was because barret, vanessa barrett said the judge in the case against julia was so mealy mouthed in her judgement. if she'd listened to be evidence. and if she was a proper judge, and if she made a proper judgment, she would have said there is no case to answer. case dismissed said the prisoner

freight. she didn't, she said, i'm a little bit worried that the americans might be really hurried to him. and he might kill himself. and so on those grounds, i'm not going to allow him to be expedited, which was obviously, i'm not going to say cross crock of whatever it was that i said before, that you've checked too. but it's ludicrous. the whole thing is completely ludicrous, julian should be, say, and, but what it does mean of course, is that if this judgement goes against julian, then the defense will get to appeal and that will go to the supreme court. wherever that now exists. it used to be the house of lords, i don't know what it is in england now, and the defense will get a chance to challenge all the ludicrous nonsense that's gone up until the point. and also it will give more time for the voices in the guar in the crowd to swell. i'm for to all agree with jeremy colbin who to is had channel credit was outside.

the goal today on behalf of julian association for all of us, for our voice to grow in power. and for the powers that be just start to tremble in friendship is which is what they should have been doing up until now. how credible do you think are assurance is coming from the united states? that of songs, if extra and will not be held in a strict conditions. all may even be allowed to serve as jail sentence in australia, which he is. of course, a national of you think there's any truth to those assurances. obviously not, they are lying through they change. look at guantanamo bay, asked shaka, alma, my friend, ask anybody who has been in the hands of the u. s. judiciary. and at any point, possibly since the 2nd world war with whom they did not agree, and you will find that there's no justice to be found in the united states. in the last few months, we found a number of quart,

astonishing revelations hadn't way among them. allegations of a key witness apparently lying in their testimony. the alleged planned by the ca, to kidnap of songs even try to harm him in some way. this is all been quite shocking, but it's not been getting that much media attention has it. and even a few lessons is set free of the judges. throughout this case. do you think his safety will still be at risk? of course a well, yeah, good, good point. thank you for bringing up the media. why do you think i get most buy news from out say? because the mass media, western mass major is not to be trusted. and they, and they appear entirely disinterested in the rule of law. most of them probably never heard of magnet culture or habeas corpus, or any of the basic tenets of english law that developed in the 13th century. and we've been trying to abide by ever since, and it's all being thrown out of the window now on the altar of near level

capitalism. and that is why julianna's son, she's in prison because he's interfering with their cunning planter. still the planet sort of ripen to death and then destroy it. so we, so you know, our hearts go out to stella morris and to the rest of his family and to all of his supporters. and we and we, we are not going on anywhere at all. and our voice is going to get louder and louder and louder. jo julian sanchez, set free. i can promise you that. i don't have the answers your question. i'm so angry and i'm soap, and i am so disgusted with the united kingdom and with the government at united kingdom they should have stepped in. months ago, we marched from the australian embassy to parliament squared made speeches in february last year, 2020. and at that point i thought, you know,

how if they got the bulls to just keep doing what they're doing, a paying their masters in washington dc. being poodles or it's johnson, and the rest of them. well, now i'm finding out how they do it. they do it because it feathers their nest as well. and i really don't know what else to say. i'm feeling a bit sort of not incoherent. exactly, but i am consumed with horror of what's going on. i would, i did a radio program last night, john ship, tim was on there and he was extremely eloquent. and i asked him how him, how he manages his grief and, and he was absolutely, he was all moving to listen to. he says, well, he puts it to one side as it goes through his life. and his life is entirely devoted to the freeing of his son, so he can go to his wife and children. and john says that late at night,

he might have a glass of wine, and he may at that point, whisky and he may retreat into his melancholy. and i felt my heart lurch in my chest. as i listened to this man saying yes. and i felt his melancholy, me like a hammer blow on my chest. you know, so again, i don't what, why am i getting emotional? because it's an extremely emotional subject. you know, the future of all of us and all of our children and grandchildren hangs upon this court case. if they destroy the, for the state, which is what they're trying to do by destroying a sandwich, they destroy the world. that's it. we're done. if we no longer have a boys, we're done, and if they destroy assange bay will have destroyed the most important

voice of the 21st century. rosa, thanks so much for time here. dorothy international will be keeping an eye with you on the development of high court and will be good to have you on again. once a decision has been made one way or another, roosevelt is that thanks so much. and he, john green reforms and the energy supply crisis as some of the big questions are looking to be answered at today's erosion economic forum. the to dev and gathers together some big hitters from the business world and beyond. and is underway in northern italy's verona with more details on what spin already set up before is ortiz charlotte davinsky. a day full of punches here at new range in economic forum with state taxes and big businesses. having their say about the state of the world, day one. so trade and energy in focus with many criticisms of the use agenda and of

how the west continues to push it, owner gender on to the world. the idea to globalize the western model is, what is now the mainstream doing it is to believe that we have to spread our west of model of running countries and running the road to make it a global standard. but it still is from history of s and senate. and when every one is stick to it, then there will be peace and every one who is not willing to stick to it, but to remain and their own regional tradition is the enemy. he went on to say that a you raisin block was essential to balance the power of china. and the us and relations between the e. u in russia were being hampered by washington. you'll have 2 superpowers. the united states on the one hand and, and china on the other hand. so if you create a block in the middle than this, you ration block could be strong enough to balance it out. it could have exit

distance to boost to united states on the one hand and china. on the other hand, the china is in support. is supporting our plans to have a closer integration between russia and its allies. under european union, by a united states do quite critical to wanted because they want to maintain western europe in their cold war state. a s s a strong ally, that helps them in their competition, which china and as a competition, not primarily on, on economics, but it is primarily on power and on politics. warnings about how important trade was globally and the dire consequences of not working together. also came in the form of a reference to shakespeare off to rule. verona is where romeo and juliet was based digital, where now in the seat of your honor, which is the setting for the renowned tale of feud between the mon. to go and

calculate klan well know how that ended here is a serious lesson we should take from that story. when then, bishop of some people begin to prevail over common sense tragedy may occur. we need to ask ourselves, are the ambitions that we are fighting over to day worth? what happens after forums like this help us to rethink the things we can lose? if we're on the quarrel, we should have dialogue and bill mutually beneficial relationships. the use energy crisis was all so pulled apart with panelists, saying that the block itself was to blame energy demand in all european markets. increase sick effect significantly in the 1st half of 2020 born at the same time gas storage facilities that you was longer than your the last winter. you took cold temperatures that persisted into the spring.

as a result, the re, injection into gas storage did not begin until 8 approval. now, nearly months later than the average in previous years. these factors let go higher prices and stronger demand. during the summer months, the transition to green energy is necessary. they said with that transition had been badly plant out and poorly managed. the main theme from this economic forum was dialogue and be improvements over relationships on needed, particularly with russia. many suggesting that both russia and the new would benefit from this day to we'll see further discussions that we'll be looking at the digital economy and how to overcome the neo liberal, socio economic system. charlotte, even ski r t verona. facebook's parent company is changing its name to

meta the spot of a drive to expand the 1st portfolio of apps, which currently also includes instagram and what's up. and let's get more on the a metamorphosis. now from a main man in new york. caleb morphine. caleb, thanks for joining us. i, i guess the question is, what's in a name? why did the go from matter? and what's the significance here for facebook? sure. well, the world just saw a pre recorded statement from the ceo of facebook, now known as meta and mark zocker berg came forward and said the corporation will now be called meta. now the apps will keep the same name. it'll still have the facebook apps, other apps will still be called the same thing, but the corporation is called met, which they say is short for met to verse. and there are big aspirations to expand, social media and many aspects of life, virtual reality, exercise, entertainment,

all kinds of things. now, it's important to note, however, that facebook has been under quite a bit of criticism. in recent months, we've seen some rather intense congressional hearings. a lot of questions are being asked about facebook, the fact on younger people and their mental health sides effect on the country overall. there's been the case of a whistleblower who came out. there's been calls for increased censorship. it's been quite a situation, but it's really important and important to note that the stocks of facebook have been doing well despite everything that has been thrown at the company. lately, we saw at this point a 17 percent increase compared with the same period last year . and just today, since the announcement of the name change now that it's called meta, we've seen the stocks a somewhat. 1 slowly rise and we saw 45 percent increase on the stock market in response to this announcement that was widely anticipated from c, e o. mark zuckerberg. so quite an interesting day for the social media universe.

and we shall have to see how things continue to play out. the controversy is certainly not going away yet. indeed, archie is caleb moping? thanks for that update. now it's been almost 2 months since the taliban returns of power. and i've got to start following the chaos us withdrawal and the challenges of piling up and economic crisis is now being compounded with the threat of mass starvation. many children, the brutal reality of life is all too clear to see. my name is my and 7 years old. i'm here to collect bread. sometimes people help us, sometimes they don't. i don't have a father. i take care of myself, there is no one else to feed us. there are 6 people in our family and i'm the eldest boy at home, so i have to support them. i can't work because one of my hands is paralyzed. adults told me that my hand will not work. i dream of continue my studies at school and becoming

a doctor one day. people 10 down some times and they say there is no work, no money. so they can't give us bread. my name is nancy, i collect plastic race and sell it. i am here at the baker to collect a few non bread. i have 3 and will now go home. my father died there is no one at home to earn money. i have my mom, a younger brother and sister, and the only one who takes bread home till a family. i want to be a doctor, but there is no one to help us. it was better before. at least we could find bread easily, but things are in good today. now we don't have anyone to support us if there was, i wouldn't be here. no, not my name is nadia. i'm collection non bread were helpless at home. we have no work. people help us, we are often left hungry. i don't want to be here begging i want to stay home un now estimates over 3000000 children under 5 are at risk of dying from malnutrition . that's some of the precarious fate of the economy, which has been heavily dependent on phone funds for years. around 40 percent of its

gross domestic product has been international a. however, for the taliban now in control of the country, a food crisis is not the only problem there. grappling with islamic state, the taliban, long time enemy has repeatedly stage the tax on the new government and religious minorities. now the pentagon is express concern that target spaced in the country have intention to attack the us mainland within a year. full fall cry from the supposed success of a troop withdrawal from going to on. the president bought and hailed the time. i think the intelligence community currently assess that both isis k and i'll call you to have the intent to conduct external operations including against the united states, but neither currently has the capability to do so. we could see isis k generate that capability somewhere between 6 to 12 months. i think the current assessments by the intelligence community is the al qaeda would take a year or 2. permission to degrade the terrorist threat of al qaeda in afghanistan

and kilo. some have been lot was a success. i believed that our presence and have gas dance should be focused on the reason we went the 1st place to ensure afghans that would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland again. we did that. we accomplish that objective, former pentagon security unless michael maloof told us the us, the draw was, might have even harder to remove lovek state from going to san isis is now imbedded in a highly remote mountainous region. would make it much more difficult to try to extract them. and isis k has as demonstrated to taliban, which is what sir? against that while they may think that they run afghanistan, they actually control events. and they've demonstrated that with their suicide bombings, the united states is unable to get any basis in the region. the over the horizon concept really doesn't work. all that well. and,

and the ordinance is flowing against isis or all kinds of targets. now has to come from the gulf, it was biting who wanted to get out. and the end by and also what against the best advice of his, of his national security team to, to, to stay there until certain conditions could be met. because the reports anyway in just a few moments time we're backing off and with the latest do join us again that oh, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is on often very dramatic. development only personally i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time.