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hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . virginia has roared and democrats are really republican. glenn, young kens gubernatorial. when is nothing less than stunning, he is a political novice and not a trump's arrogant this bo, other election will. how far reaching implications? and it could signal the end of the biting presidency. i crossed talking a political earthquake, i'm joined by my guest and kearns and new york. she is a radio host as well as author of the forthcoming book, 10 top ways. democrats had betrayed women and why we need a feminist exit in atlanta, we have di, dockins, i glare, she is a political strategist and a former georgia state representative. and in fort lauderdale, we cross to christopher metzler. he is a conservative political analyst or a cross sack rules in effect, that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate the, let me go to you 1st because you're the odd person on the panel and i want to be
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fair. i but does the sitting president of the united states, joe biden, reacting to the earthquake in virginia and elsewhere across the country, as by the media? what, what happened? he said, people are upset and concerned. that's not very, a reassuring to me. what do you, what do you think happen and reflect upon the president's words, go ahead d in atlanta. well, thank you peter, and to be honest, i kind of echo a little bit about what the president said. people are upset. i mean, just think about, we're coming out of a global pandemic. i should was still in the middle of it trying to figure out how to get people vaccinated. the economy is down. and i think what happened was the genius for got to talk directly to people about bread and butter issues. people are concerned about the economy, so i don't know why from the so people, when they see things that said they got to get rid of the ones that are in control . ok, let me go to jen and new york. i mean, you know, what is really a play here because, you know, i think that, you know,
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we hear in the media all time. everything is national every, every polity. every race is national. that's not the case in virginia came out very, very differently. and young can you know, for a novice, i'd never heard of him before. he played a brilliant campaign against a democrat that is really wrote the playbook for modern democratic party to run elections. mean, that's why i said it was stunning in my introduction. go ahead, jen. yeah, it really was a stunning introduction peter and what so interesting about the virginia race is that it can actually be a road map for other swing states and other swing districts. in the 2022 midterms, and he certainly tapped into the parental angst over school board meetings and critical race theory. but he also distance himself at the same time from trump not really taking up the opportunity to campaign with trump. and i think that's ok, this is what is great about the republican party today. we are a big chance we're proving that we're demonstrating, it's not just lip service. we can have trumpet rallies in states that work like
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texas. now, obama, but states that are swing, swing states and swing districts that we might not want to have from along for that right. but i did work with you on one point. this was also a national race. here's why parents, when they looked at how the, by the ministration was coordinating with the national school board association begging to bring the f b. i end to attack parents into a cost parents. i think that's when people started to realize this, this was hook line and sinker, a playbook by the democratic party that they did not like. so i think it part and parcel was due to joe by. oh yeah. you know, i was thinking, you know, you're joe biden doesn't have coattails and then i re thought is that he doesn't have a coat. ok. that's why he doesn't have coat tails. ok. ok, chris ok. hey, can there be a little levity in the program? ok, i'll get back to the it is a good christopher, christopher. i think a lot of other people could look at the election results across the country. and enough is enough. i think
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a lot of people are feel enough is enough that you know that the, the, the, the culture wars in all of this went and i agree would be here. you know, there's the, we have inflation. we're coming out of the pandemic. you know that the economy is not functioning the way people would hope. and you know, a lot of people are saying, you know, the way things are going with a recent poll, 71 percent of the country thinks the country's going in the wrong wrong direction. a lot of people are saying enough is enough. go ahead christopher. yeah, i don't actually, i was not surprised at all by the results. and here's why. when terry mcauliffe said that, in fact, ah, the state has more rights in terms of determining the education of students than parents. at that point, i said he lost the election. look, you can't do that. you're looking at suburban mounts and you're telling them the states going to decide also yes, the problem on the democratic side. so they passed absolutely nothing. the brand
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that the democrats came in with is biden, is competent. he is going to take things. he is going to deliver. none of that is true. they broke the brand promise. in addition to which you had the head of the house progressives who's never met a camera that she doesn't like out there the entire time talking, smack still, there's nothing that's done and yeah, ah, we are concerned about how we get to feed and our families kitchen table issues absolutely. all the concern mcauliffe tried to just simply ignore the act and they go ok with a deal. and one of the things that mccall were dead during his campaign because he's a well known democrat. i mean, one of the most well known in the party, you know, when he was governor his rhetoric then in his rhetoric. now during the campaign, there's like 2 different people. i mean, he really, i, you know, took in this
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a culture war stuff. i talked about critical could of critical, critical race theory and things say like, i mean, he didn't talk that way even 5 years ago. and i think a lot of a, put a lot of people off in virginia. and i would echoing with what christopher had to say don't mess with suburban women. okay, that's a no, no for both parties. go ahead, dan. well, you know what? i'm gonna have to agree to proceed on a couple of issues. one, i don't want people to tell me how to raise my children because i am, you know, the, the person who raises them to take care of them. however, let's be very clear and not be disingenuous in this conversation. critical race theory is not a subject that it's talked about in public schools, especially on k through 12. usually you don't even talk about her grace theory until you're in graduate school, not even something you would talk about in undergraduate. so i don't even know had this story just, you know, took wayne's and to gov around the country. but it isn't the ta compliant for republicans. the democrats have to do
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a better job of getting their sam bit out and be able to play in the big deal. first of all, because even the best are canada, you see there was so many other people of there were democrats were primary. hm. okay. so that goes to show you right there and they did not have a full pay the credit in that government anyway, even from the democrat sat. so that's one issue we have to talk about. but as far as critical, racy, we left is get that out of the way it happened to resonate. but if it's a fancy that is not happening in k through 12, anywhere in the country. well, i mean, can i have to push back a little bit on that? i mean, a lot of parents have shown in public what there are children are learning now. however, you want to define critical race theory. you could debate that, but a lot of parents across the country and particularly in virginia, are saying this is what my kids are being taught and i don't like it. and no one gave i never gave anyone permission to do that. we, if that's critical recently or not, i don't know, but a lot of parents are upset about what their children being taught. go ahead,
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jim. yeah, that's right. and look, we know from loudon, county virginia to all the way to san diego, california that they are teaching tenants critical race theory. even in new york city, you had parents who are a liberal, slightly leaning left that yang to their kids, out of school because their 4th graders were being told they were racist. and i think when you tell an 11 year old that they are racist for something that they're great, great, great, great, great grandfather may have done 200 plus years ago. i think that is a problem. at my former boss, megan kelly yanked her kid out of school over it. so it even if it's not blaring on the textbook critical race theory, it is being taught teachers are picking up on those tenant. and look, we know that critical race theory actually comes from the marks. it's critical theory and the 1960 s which, which is being taught in schools, which is a capitalism is bad. the founding fathers are bad with the sins in america are bad
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. and therefore, they must be toppled, all of that is going on in our school system today. and it really, really needs to stop. this is what parents are so unhappy about. ok, i want to give jen dia, dia, quick time to react there to go ahead and atlanta, you know, what, the, the fact is, you know, history sometimes it does not show of the way we want it to some time to want to get any rights that slavery actually happened in this country and that our constitution even made black people, 3 fifths of a person. and that i well was built on the back of life. so we cannot get a culture. but it did happen in the constitution, but people were not even a citizen, but you both also auto de la to be fair and look, no one, hey, go math and hang on. everybody with that all happened. ok. but with the, the, the electorate also voted for brock obama twice. ok, twice. ok, so christopher, you want to jump in here to change history?
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i want i love i d, i'm a trained historian. that's what i did in grad school. okay. i know history and i know the history of the united states very well, and i want people to know about the worst and most painful parts of our history. but to, to, to parallel to people. you know, saying this is your fault. just as gina. gen said 5 generations, this place, i mean people don't take well to that. let's get christopher and the conversation. go ahead christopher. yeah. and, and look as the only person on this, ah, on this discussion who's actually taught critical race theory in law. i actually concret gray, fearing how to go look ok. ok. so i taught it in law school because that's where i true critical race theory is taught law students barely could even pass with a b minus relative to that. but once again, let me say that from the democratic standpoint, if the issue look at what the parents said, you can call it critical race theory. it that can be technically incorrect. ok,
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but what the parents are saying is they don't like how this teaching is occurring with kids at the, at those ages. if that's what the parents are saying, then you have to respond to it. we can debate whether it's true, ah crit or not. ah, however, that that's not really the issue. okay, d, d, 23 with him on that. well, i actually agree with your mom that point. however, what they're getting in school is not where people are say, i mean, you may have some teachers that go rogue hearing around the board. i mean, we have teachers that teach, ah, you know, things that a fallacious all the time. but that does not mean that that is something that a school board is still ok. all right, day to day i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the democrats and their whoa, stay with our team. ah,
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but a will. it could be issue. okay, of lush williston holding. so for our ah, welcome back. across stock. we're all things considered on peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing democrats in their woes. ah. okay, and do you think there's going to be some kind of course correction among the democrats then we'll ask the democrat, but i'm going to ask you as a republican 1st because we have these 2 major bills in congress. it seems to me that there's going to be and i hate using the serbs, moderate and moderate. moderate democrats might be a little spooked right now because they have 2022 coming up here. i mean, how much a big pelosi says no straight ahead, plow through here. but how does it change the calculus in your opinion, from a person outside looking in and then i'll ask d and christopher. go ahead,
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jen. well, it absolutely does change the trajectory. look, if i'm the tnc today, i'm getting talking points out, especially to members in swing districts telling them stop talking about critical race theory. stop talking about parents being bad actors at school board meeting. start talking about the things that, that democrats do well on the problem, peter, is that democrats and my last check polling just about an hour ago, are only doing well on co, mid 19. so brace yourselves, america, there may be more locked downs and restrictions and more efforts to turn the story back to co been 90 because that is the only sector that does the, by the ministration and the democrats are doing well on. here's what's interesting, you see, you know, nancy pelosi and joe biden, both sort of saying today, there's really nothing to see here. even biden kind of said, you know the opposite of the seinfeld bang. he said the virginia election. he said, it's not me, it's you. and he doesn't seem to understand that right cut democrats had with the
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democrat party for a boy, a really can't be under stated here's why they're moving ahead so fast on the infrastructure bill. now, it's not because they're moving along with business. as usual. they have to rush to get this through because if you're a swing state as senator, if you're a congress person who is up for reelection as a democrat in a tight race, boy, they're going to start leave this bill and nancy posts going to have a mutiny on her hands, that's why they have to hurry up and try to janet n or else jo mansion and kristen sentiment are not going to be their only problems that this bill is going to fall apart because it's people at back to their districts and what people are supporting, they're really going to start thinking about the november ballot box here. you know, do it what, what kind of blame game is going on right now? you know, the progresses versus the moderates and all this. i mean, they're all pointing fingers. how many actually even started before, even the election result? i mean, what's going on in the democratic party?
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mean what, what is the post mortem to this? i mean, we're only a few days out, but, you know, is there a post mortem? what is there to learn if you're a democrat, go ahead. so if i was a democrat, which i am a proud, when i would just say we got to get our messaging together, because when we feel we'll just, we are in the midst of a global pandemic. our economy, if lation of all around the world economies are down and you have to have time to rebuild from that. and i don't even know kind of fairy land we're living in. we think you can go to a pandemic. people relate up people in hand, you know, now we have little bit of workers in august. i was like, oh, is supposed to straighten out immediately. that's not true. that doesn't happen in the real world. so people are upset. now, there are some issues that the democrats need to find now, but i do believe that build back there is a great tennis for to get the country back on track and for any want to say that it's not. it's also live in a very, to work with us, be clear, even which one with the program they pack all type of beals trying to get the
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economy bag moving. i mean, we have bridges that are falling down around this country. we have rows that need to be taken care of and that will get many americans back to work. so i don't understand what we're talking about. i've been getting them messaging together cuz democrats are very weak when it comes to messed. yeah. well christopher, i mean when you look at these 2 very big bills, i mean, if you look at public opinion polls, most people have no idea what, what's in them at all. okay. except for, it's really expensive. yeah. i mean, i agree with the on that though, but then again, if you, if you go through these bills and you say, oh, equity for trees, what is tree equity? and you know, i'm serious. i'm not joking here. okay. i mean, but most, most average people, i mean i'm, i'm a talk show hosts, i'm not a smart guy, i don't understand what that is. okay. so chris, which is not messaging. it's about leadership to an a now ending and biden, as i said, doesn't have coat tails, but he doesn't, he's not a very strong leader, and a lot of people are figuring that out. well, yeah, and it, you're right, it's not just messaging. it's also substance. when you're looking at to bill and
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reading, what is actually in it, you're like what, what does that have to do with anything? what does that have to do? there is a lot of waste, as there always is in washington. and if build back better is so good. then in fact, democrats should be telling us why it's good if it's all that great. how does it relate to the kitchen table issues? what democrats are doing is spending time fighting on washington about cinema and a mansion should leave the party. meanwhile, the country is going against them. and to the issue of the out, we're in the midst of a global pandemic, and things are not gonna then democrats need to explain what they're going to do by dismay. president for a almost well, he was elected about a year ago. and in addition to that, so the question is, if you are the paragon of excellence of competence, you have
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a bad way of showing it because essentially what you of the democratic party have done is essentially look like a bunch of incompetent fools. listen, who is in charge? who's the president who's doing want and only even get me started on the vice president? it do happen and see that the, those are all very strong points. again, what, what is, you know, the republicans all have this amazing not to screw things up when things are going well. ok, so i mean, they're really good at it. okay. they, it, it's the, you could have a ph. d in it. ok. the, it's such a, a refined a process here. what 2 republicans need to take from that. so because they talk about working people, are they gonna start really focusing on, on working people? because they, they rhetorically throw it that way. but i don't see it in policy and this is an open opportunity. this is an open lane. go ahead in new york. yeah, it is. and look, i agree with you peter. you know, they are and see could mess up
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a ham sandwich and let's be honest. so i almost wish the virginia race hadn't been so early because you're right, democrats can correct course. and republicans now can sort of breed a sigh of relief and kind of kick back. i hope that's not what they're doing. look at ways that republicans can communicate better. i think our policies do support working with them and working families. i think as d said, our messaging needs to improve. here's why you look at the pandemic. it wasn't just about the pandemic. it was about specific democrat cities, big blue cities, big blue states like new york, washington, d. c. los angeles san diego run by democrats who actually lead to 1000000 women to flee from the workforce because working women had no choice. when their cities were locked down, their jobs were locked down and their kids were locked down in places like the los angeles unified school district, largest school district in the nation, where their kids were out of school for over a year. that is pretty stunning and,
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and that 2000000 women that left the workforce during the pandemic didn't do so because the coven 19 they did so because of democrat policies. and that is the largest exodus of women from the workforce since the feminist movement began. that is something i would hang around the next of democrats. they continue to talk about coven 19 and considering more shut down through the winter months. okay. do you want to change topics? cuz we're, we're rapidly running out of time, or in virginia. all the democrats, all they seem to talk about was trump trump, trump, trump, didn't work for them. is this a course correction for the democrats, mo, you do scampering out in the trump bogeyman all the time. people want to talk about other things because i think that was a huge technical mistake in virginia for the democrats. go ahead in atlanta. yes and thank you. i agree, i me, i don't even know why he started talking about from to that degree on the, i know that trump, you know, it's like, well, you may, but we've corrected that. that's why joe biden is the president of united states.
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however, he should have been hammering and on the go, the bread and butter issues. and i don't understand why the democratic party cannot talk about that. and i don't know while we keep trying to make the pandemic and people leaving jobs. ah, a democratic or republican issue in a global pandemic in all of the countries around the world. everyone's not working, women start working names, not working. and i don't understand how we have become so polarized that america, that we have blamed this on a pride instead of blaming on a pandemic. their problem when dan is friday, it had the president who at that time, who i was gonna try. and now this will incompetent only ish ebitda christopher. yeah. well hey, i want to go to, i want to talked about florida, the free state of florida here. yeah, i mean, is it from florida to done pretty well and their kids were in school almost all the time. i mean there are comparisons within the united states. go ahead, christopher. yeah, i mean florida is, is, and what exactly is it more frequent sample of that we did not have those marconi
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and i shut down here and they kept talking about old. the numbers are going to look at where the numbers are relative to florida. look at the economy in florida. look at the fact that all of the people from new york and new jersey center are moving down to florida. the locus of course are complaining about high cost of housing now because of back. but in, in that case of florida, listen, it. florida is an example of how the kids were not out of school for that long. my kids were in school the entire time except for probably a week. so i'm going, i, we're almost, we're almost out of time. i want to talk to jen about trump. now i think a new paradigm is here. you know, trump can be helpful, but if he, it's, and he's not necessary, he needs to stay in the shadows. he need to stay in the sideline, can trump balance that can trump b, reinvent himself?
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go ahead, jen. well look, i think there will be a critical reckoning that counts for republicans, which is will donald trump run or will he step aside and let florida governor rhonda sanchez run? they both cannot run. a president and a vice president cannot be from the same state. and boy, rhonda santas daily is proving that he has a chops to, to really make a run for it for president. and so i can, donald trump, is really going to have to do some soul searching here and determine as we look at some of these other races that come in and determine how he could be most helpful. and this isn't to stay with the america 1st pack. and continue pushing pro american policies as he does he being a headliner at rally, or is it better for him to step aside and let somebody like randi sanchez, have a moment, christopher? 10 2nd. same question. 10 seconds. go ahead, crisper. yeah, no, absolutely. it's going to be hard for the, for president to stay out of all of these races,
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but i think that's right. he has to make a decision as to what he's going to do. because here's part of the reason the trump thing lost in virginia. because what they did is they thought virginia was california. that's not what we had here. that is not the issue. that's a very i'm from california, so i know exactly what you mean. that's all the time we have. many, thanks to my gets a new york fort lauderdale, and in atlanta. and thanks to our viewers for watching as e r d. see you next time. remember cross up ah ah ah, ah. as a korea professional sport is much tougher on some than others with the euro.
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