tv Documentary RT November 7, 2021 8:30am-9:01am EST
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hello, could you plain 30 years out the gaining independence. it's a pretty area, but almost unless, unless you mean like you to give your thought it was live, but a will. it makes you could be sure you must on hold for ah, my father had contacted many lawyers in both canada and in the united states and no one was prepared to do this. they were very, very brave to go up against the government in this way. that night, parents thought of them as heroes. and and so today, david orla coach stanley has a member of parliament who didn't really help us that much. the powers that be on auto were more concerned about not rocking the boat with their american colleagues
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. and they were about advancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament. me do a lot of bizarre physical therapy's. ringback going on in psychiatry at the time, but no one had ever used the combination of very powerful drugs. electro, convulsive therapy, extended sleep, sensory isolation, and all the other methods that she was using. where i grew up, this was my street. you see that tree there? i remember when i could put my fingers around it we we planted that tree so that tree is planted in 1945. it's quite a long time ago. harvey decided to write a book about his father's experiences. as he researched the legal case, he began to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening. male was arriving in our
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house, opened. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. then about 2 weeks after that, i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road from behind me comes a car with no headlights on slams into me, pushes me off the road and disappears or something that i really haven't spoken about and nothing like this of course ever happened again. but it, does it interesting questions do sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009. we're going to fill a video. it's going to be the doctor and my grandmother locked in this
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dance that never ends. i think of it this as like i like a purgatory state or jessica. yeah, never got, never got resolved it. never. she never got better. we thought this was over. we thought this was about history. there are 2 fifties in early 960. it never crossed my mind that the united states would be using methods the cameron used to destroy, ah to admit, i think i know the world fairly well at peace, even if i hadn't traveled to it. but i really didn't know about the twin house. i didn't know that the twin tiles even existed home.
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i will never forget that. i was installing service for a gentleman, n g o. ah, one of the workers said, there is a war and then i see that america and i will say what ah, who was in my office, which is in. and suddenly the phone started to ring a la. ah oh, it's a tiny new middle about all kite in how that group was able to evolve to a point where i learned later that that 19 thugs with box cutters was able to bring the united states to our knees. ah,
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immediately mark was ordered to florida to help drew out the invasion of afghanistan with 2001. i made the decision a life changing decision. it turned out to be to go to afghanistan. and to do that with my wife, my children, the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike afghanistan on october, the 7th, 2001. the war on terrorism began it's public, it's pure panic. this isn't just the united states, bombing, sorties,
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and campaigns. this is now sol, just on the ground, armed people in the streets, killing people, arresting people, torturing people, and on the target. missouri was captured, entertained in background, airbase for the in february, 2003. she was taken to quinton i'mma. tension can accuse to being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk, and for the next 22 months, he was held in solitary confinement. ah, weeks after 911. when i received a phone call. and it was the d isn't the director of our
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security. and he explained to the u. s. government asked him to arrest me. mohammed was accused of being the leader of an al qaeda cell in both germany and montreal. in the chaos, president bush signed the secret direct giving the cia authority to kill or capture terrorists anywhere in the years that followed several dozen acro crisscross the glow, making thousands of flights faced with an onslaught of prisoners, the bush administration drew up a memorandum known as the torture memos it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded
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men 1978 judgment. with within months, the cia rolled out these methods within guantanamo and all its black sites. they call them enhanced interrogation techniques. the cia turned to contract psychologist who had no experience with al qaeda who had no experience with interrogations and had no experience in the middle east gym. and i went into a cubicle, sat down at a, at a he sat down at the typewriter and together we wrote out the list as techniques that we thought had worked well in the series school. well, i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the captured detainee did not, did not apply to the capture detainees by the attorneys at the cia. and so i don't
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think i thought about to leave a convention made became what i will often refer to as a modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen. these 2 psychologist were awarded a $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. see any? doctor cameron's experiments on sensory deprivation overland, along with the code, we'll see a program to create a thick mix of torture techniques. all social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence on something else. it has not been controlled. we need to protect society from those that kind of bring it once more into kills.
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the strong was protect others from these people are the american psychological association is the world's largest organization of psychologists, and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. ah, secretly the ab and mid psychologist working in the torture, proven to override that ethical code of dune and home if the military and cia required it a program of abusive interrogations. the program of torture at the cia was designed by psychologists and at guantanamo was designed by a psychologist and
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a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques and in the program of the cia abuse. and that's when i could basically stand it no. and so suddenly i went from just being the psychologist in my office to becoming the face of opposition to the a p. s. position war is a strategic business. our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out. and it has consequences for years. and i was in conversations with the department of defense and with a white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrist and psychologists who were
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advising the interrogation teams. i dan, i learned that they were not just advising that they were involved by. i was stunned here in for taken all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program. ah . oh, driven by dreamer shapes bank, concur. some of those with
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dares sinks we dare to ask ah, in russia this class of car was discontinued more than 20 years ago. even lost a more than a was a sort of in the self to propose a better deal with just important practice. it took 5 years to close the gap on the world car industry from the drawing board to the 1st finished model. to skip sister will over certify, excellent totals kia, deal with my food ocean from a small school from bullshit for here. double much luca crockett. the customer
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the psychological and physical torture. and i was in until the 247. deborah, american hash field because of my activism that i was planted in germany somewhere to do harm to the ltd listed either who called 1st little klein or we're going to put you in the georgia program. and i said go for it very much. i was really stupid. hello bag that american said. the logic says that without you there wouldn't meet $911.00. suddenly mohammed was close the most important prisoner england on the way of psychologist in this torture program, astounds me. i saw that we're heading down
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a road that i knew was going to be disastrous. in 2002 mark put his neck on the line and one to his superior that the c i n. when using tool chip, i felt like there was an avalanche. you can see these boulders coming down and you could wave your arms and you try to stop it. but i could not stop what was happened . the blood thirst to torture people who is just great for any one person's ah, your interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond geneva convention, stress positions, sleep management, dietary manipulation. all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion. that's the geneva convention. these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those . my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's
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been authorized by the department, was checked by the lawyers in your shop, in the department, in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with the jan . absolutely. and you, through a secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammed retreated 3 of the 911 hijackers. he personally authorized a 90 day special project status, them how to do with her and as consequences. 7, the order to abuse prisoners was unlawful. but to build up to that unlawful order, they need justification. and so what they did was they sent a colonel to, to guantanamo, to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said guantanamo bay is america's battle lab. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of north park and evoke memories of what the not not is were doing experiments
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the thing they started with live the professional regime and then a massive guide broaden to the so it was very dog except for strobe lights and then he sat and then he stopped playing these music lid. the bodies hit the floor all day long. you know, you, you, i cannot explain to one someone is put doing shackle shark and soon to the floor and a group of people to women and a guy come and force them on to fe . know that war has
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a moral imperative. america after 911 was in shock, and i think we had been deeply frightened, and i think that fear was exploited. certainly in the years after that and is continued to be exploitive, my understanding is you get more 911 detainees than any other person. i. you know, i've met a number of them. yes. i meant probably more than anyone outside. can you tell me that? i can't specifically talk about what i've done my meetings with them or what i've learned about these men. i've met colleagues shake mohammed highly been, natasha ramsey, banassi amar al belushi, and possibly these men were subjected to all these tactics.
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and to there is absolutely no evidence. absolutely not a shred of evidence that, that these tactics used armies man really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country. ah, we created our kind of iraq with our torture programs, you know, kind of rock more to what we call isis today. dash ice on the same. it's just a manifestation of torture. the leisure programs that we created and were living with those results to you so that you think this is workrooms? this is absolutely work. crimes we knew there were crimes. ah,
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this new substitute nation is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership into intense stephen rising. other protest as possible with the a pig is coming to and we're here today to reset our moral compass. we had been trying continues to prevent psychologists for being part of national security interrogations that we expose we acknowledge you, we apologize for it and we changed it ah . off to being held for 3 years. madame was released without
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charge us herself, so it would have happened if i got on a plane called back on to england. but what would have happened? would i end up in guantanamo? would these with these painful with this plentiful period ever have happened? would i be the person i have today? i can't answer those questions, but i do often say to myself, why didn't i just get on a plane and go back on my hand? do these confessions were found to be the result of talk. he was released without charge in after 14 years in guantanamo or i was no match to them. they destroyed me. they one name broken. and there is nothing i could say, you know, to save my face or to say, or i one, no, i did not because those people out of professional doctors who studied just for this purpose, to destroy human spirit and make independent obedience and make them
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confess to whatever they want them to confess to in august 2017, the 2 psychologists who created the cia torture program were about to be put on trial. we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do. we knew it was lawful . we knew it was a wiggle. we knew it had been vetted and approved. do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them or suffered a long term visible or psychological form judge? do you think it's possible that i sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could into severe mental pain or suffering? objection? the c, i a settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. no liability was submitted.
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world law and government will intensify. the problem of the growing anonymity of the common man. what we muster was to cl well spread neither friendly and not unfriendly around us. a world in which we must at last take final responsibility for ourselves. to ensure that in the fight isis and al qaeda, we continued to have all necessary power to detain terrors wherever we chase them down wherever we find them. and in many cases, for them it will now be guantanamo bay. minimum. $1000000.00 construction program has been announced at guantanamo bay, which could see it treble in population. what makes this issue
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important? guantanamo has become the calling cry. torture is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great again. the united states right now is one terrorist attacks away from re instituting torture since the 1950s. we know these techniques have been used in afghanistan, argentina, australia, bonita, present, british colony, british camry, canada, chinney, kiva, great britain, guatemala, honduras, iran, iraq, israel, lithuanian, moroccan, northern on pakistan. the philippines,
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oh, why group monitors the compliance a wall? g 20 members with their commitments. they made up their all last summer. and what we have found is that a year later on the even the wrong country comply unprecedentedly high level 80 my percent. and then i'm optimistic that because that break sean hold in still ways i think will get high compliance with the wrong commitments on cold in with
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with it's been 30 years since the soviet union collapsed in miss couple other literature . the one to what the problem yet nuclear you talk so, so shown where you also trust them with all of them. ukraine was one of the independent states that emerge from the ruins of a super bow. i'm doing awesome. good. would you also get on google greens? come on board, surely confusing somebody i can last new lucian west,
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nor did better lung or lol, a surface, but a teachable bring and finish. and it does show a helpful watch at the past 3 decades. been likely ukraine. eye witnesses recall the events. this will be more or less of judiciary with what i knew to know if that order. i'm not sure, but i did that for months with no idea what else and what other forces were at play . you have to do so to whom you show c engine mushy. in the same you put in the kid what it would occur when you the shows up in was the version is only slower. take a look at ukraine, 30 years out, the gaining independence, a phone with us here unless you mean yet, i guarantee retorted mostly will way. but a will. it could be issue ok of lush williston, holding still for the
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