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ah, i mean, ah, i'm app sooner, tanzania, what you going underground, coming up with the shoke, the ton of the horn of africa remains to leave the opium state of emergency. we talked a neighbouring airy tray as un ambassador, sophia test for marian about the biden administration's d, stabilizing military, economic and propaganda influence on peace. after nature defeat in afghanistan, iraq, libya, and syria. and after that suspicious lebanese port explosion, how long can his will as shaken, astronomer weight, as nato israel and saudi arabia attacks a jewel of the mediterranean,
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and linchpin of the middle east. we ask lebanon's, former foreign minister, far as boys. all of them all coming up in today's going underground, but 1st, many saw the defeat and pull out of u. k. u. s. troops from afghanistan as a precursor to more intervention in africa, right on cue. we now have chaos in the horn of africa with ethiopia declaring a state of emergency with millions, perhaps facing salvation. this follows not only non nato investment in ethiopia, but peace between ethiopia and nato enemy eritrea. joining me now, is there a transplanted representative to the un ambassador sophia test for marian? thank you so much ambassador for coming on the program. i don't know whether you see british television, but in nature, nation countries, your country is called a dictatorship, deliberately conscripting people. but continuous human rights abuses. and as you know, as a few of you to grab it, state of emergency li, a un report said big numbers of violations committed by era tray and government forces. what do you think about our eritrea is being,
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is being treated here in nature, nation media as regards the conflict? oh, thank you and i have been to this for the last 20 years. there has never been the main media shown the truth about what's going on in the area chair, on the ground or any of yeah. ok. so it comes as no surprise to us. discontinued the attack on there, every keeping the allegations the media takes over and congregates in multiple dimensions. and even here in the un, inundated with reports and, and i call it me a call chamber or it's not the point is coming from in the amendment. that's the need, is that a year to write a target and we always miss miss the target, mr. white in miss and miss jones and mr. present that, you know,
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there's over news organizations always say that's because every train or if you, if you won't let them in. and then you seriously saying that the bible administration would in effect aid what the un itself now says, maybe a separate way. 2000000 people being starving to death. remind us what this is the t p l if we invite it's liter, deborah, etc. and again, michael on, you say they are backed by nature nation weaponry to destabilize the owner of africa. well, they've done that for the last 27 years and comes of this as no surprise to be near about satellites being provided to them and satellites information being provided and mercenary. fighting with them on the brown, it will be novice for me. you know, for the credit please. that's still $30000000000.00 from the call or is i think
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they can afford mercenaries from all over the world and no doubt they will bring them to their cost and they've been supported by the wes. well, let me say getting this american political shield and support, we have not heard in the last 11 months, any confirmation of what the left is due on the ground. why is the level rebel group terrorist group for that matter? that's registered as a terrorist group allow to run throughout the country. and this threatened to save their lives, the country. i destroy infrastructure, this kill people, rain and continue with the genocidal sentences that it started while it was empower and you know they committed genocide in oral and then these are documented genocide by the feel appreciated. i didn't hear in the car from me till allies today. and i crying about genocide and said right, that didn't happen. there is no gender. right?
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well, they just countries that the g b s deny all charges of genocide and i have to ask you, wasn't it the nature of countries that supported peace between eritrea and the e. c o p. and having a nobel prize given to prime minister abbey asked with, i mean did, did, did the piece remind is that piece between the job you in eritrea they still sanctioned your country? the west did a wild up beast was made a cane because a well and our you've been an air purse and nothing to do in the west of allies with keen because the human people thought and remove the accuracy in 2018. and at that time when prime minister ab, over here, he accepted the n j boundary commission decision and agreed to implement that decision. and that's how you can thank you because that was our only problem,
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not. you're not accepting the algae agreement that was final and binding and he did . and that's how you ski, the european americans, your and none of them have anything to do with it. so don't give them credit for something we did not do. but what do you think of jeffrey felt mildly, you, jeffrey felt the u. s. diplomat. and what do you think of the biden administration and how different it is because that great hero of the global south microphone peo despised all around the global south. it has to be said, let alone by maybe the, by the ministration did condemn t b. i left with strikes on every tray. you make fun of donald trump. is that the problem? no, i found, i don't think it has to do with trump or not. they're biting administration is probably responding to the propaganda and letters and cries and wines that have been sent to congress. i know how that works. maneuvers and sends out the 10000000
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letters of congress crying. you know, we're going to be a nice lady. we're going to be killed and the american congressman and legislators are feeling like we need to respond to this on shots of letters and 3 phone calls and faxes and, and i think vitamin being sold also by people interested in, you know, we don't have friends in the in the vitamin ministration, the one electric i suffering from a racist inc, and policy for the west. and it's affecting the region. the whole foreign policy structure for the horn of africa needs to be re evaluated. and that goes beyond personality and going beyond individuals within the administration, but the whole system needs to sit down and read, recalibrate and think out loud. what it is that they are losing in the horn of africa, which they are. and this situation, we need to settle, maybe not next week,
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maybe not the week after, but it will settle and the people will get what we want, which is total control of their country and out from their villages and stuff the killing. and the reason you might say that's a bit optimistic given the bible mand m straits a so crucial to not only the military but also big corporations. i think most of our studio must have at one point being on a ship going through a straight sooners. you've seen what nature policy has done to iraq to syria, to libya. why do you believe that the power of nato nations and the media i lied to the media, can also game long j humanitarian intervention in the one of africa that, that unseat your president working, let alone prime minister be view number one. it's not something that they haven't tried for years, and i would say the credit goes to the people of their chair. and the horn of
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africa was much more conscious about what's going on in their countries that they weren't before. and much more conscious of just didn't and foreign policy, many countries and then they were before. and the height of consciousness along the people in the region will not allow this kind of intervention in our region. and i don't think that africa and the african union, nor any of our friends and allies outside of africa, are willing to see another african country. the story. eric chinese, you're not the only ones that are suffering from wrong policy, but machine, the african vibration of terrorism, all to money and gimme, and all these reaching mr. read the role they call in the spring or the cold before. now it's karen and rebels that are supposed to be threatening government, suddenly becoming the governments and i think that does not bode well for us in africa. their credibility,
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integrity of us institutions are being questioned today. as an honest broker, i don't know that the us or the even the honest brokers are me yesterday. so a lot of dynamics for a lot of people are sending the pressure. the people are at the point where they can withstand the pressure. it's a unified country in arizona where they have almost no chance at all. well, convincing us what we're doing is for our own good. i think we've learned less than 20 years. and i think you've been on learning that lesson today. well, they've been 5 reputed, western back who sit on molly chad, guinea. yeah. just just this year and the face of a trade in say, britain is that of a refugee cost of english channel, fleeing your government and in love with the liberalism and freedom,
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the britain gives them. that's what the nation media say or that's the media trail . but nobody talks about the holiday, ignoring you to try and populate eric gen, prevent it from being a country where you could live and work and you know, they started with, i can then the crew points and i can then papers that said we cannot dream and erica dreams don't come to america almost so you know, making you feel like there is no hope in their country. and yes, we have economic migrants like anybody else but make it look like they're freeing the governmental freeing because it's something they're freed up in air. was exact to read and to me those lean you are here in the united states and in the u. k. in their communities, working with brothers and sisters in the community,
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supporting families and eric chance supporting their people. so they went, they didn't go too far. they're back in the vote just very briefly because it wasn't reported here much in a donation media. what was the culture massacre in? i'm all right. if you, if you, what's your understanding of what happened in january and any direct evidence of major nations actually aiding the t b, i left in terms of argument was sent. you have 900 trucks. of the w sub just disappeared. where have they disappear to their carrying song or saw be that i should just say jeffrey feldman, the us diplomat said it was due to some very complicated issues the, the theft of the a drugs even the un is not denying that they were seated by this phillips, i'm not sure why. so when is, is trying to cover up for them $900.00 trucks. so that's supposed to both,
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you know, people like to say, i sorry, that meeting our best for me and disappear and you see something new in it's from across our region. then over to almost chess. so are they helping them indirectly maybe you know, i don't know, but they told them to do this, but you cannot deny that they are helping them in some way. how many does me die? actually make a statement and write them article in for this is a un official. we complain one who are still here. he's retired now, no cop from old chuck. we complained on his facebook page is twitter account. he's writing about trying to tell them you know, out of some of the fair but they give them moral support so they give them political support. so they give them full medic. yes they did. yes they did. and
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that's not something that's the, anybody in the mine and nobody getting punished for that either about thank you. always to pleasure after the break, the reverberations from that port explosion continue. we go to the powers of the middle east to speak to lebanon's former foreign minister, far as boys as iran and his will break. the ne donation imposed economic siege all this it all coming up about to of going undergrad long when i was sure thing wrong when i just don't hold any world. yes. to see how it is they become the advocate and engagement equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look so common ground in we're
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allowing yourself to be more efficient for quicker with our transactions. but with that comes a trade off. every device is a potential entry point for security at any machine. and it's an extension of traditional time. the defenders have always been one step behind the attackers. both bonded with them was one called suction flossing. it's not a matter of, if it happens, it's a matter of went welcome back. what happens in lebanon affects them, at least, and what happens in the middle east affects the whole world. you only have to look at the war on terror while nature nation circled mainstream media attack, lebanon, an age, a government, sanction its politicians. it seems even nobody's ministers cannot call out
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u k armed saudi arabia for it's warren yemen. johnny be from bay rouge's presidential candidate, former remedies, foreign minister, far as boys fires. thanks so much for coming on the show. i don't sure whether you watch nature nation, mainstream media here, they say it's a failed state. the whole thing in lebanon, it's a, it's a disaster, or whatever happens to the information minister george co di, can lebanon, not even criticize the saudi actions in the world's worst humanitarian crisis. yemen, lebanon, lebanese politicians not allowed to say anything they want to say. i think 1st that the crisis is bigger is deeper than the problem of what are the i said, i didn't say, i think the real problem a bed during many, many years ago the weight zeroed and the power of his will law became more and more strong. 11 and is now nearly controlling the whole
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state. they are controlling nearly everything they are still during the gone. they are controlling the parliament. they are controlling the economy. they are controlling the security. they are controlling even the justice. and i think that this is the main problem. this problem are pushed, so the review and the whole a countries in other countries and also europe and united states and others to consider, to fit that live alone is becoming their enemy. because because of the power of as below. ok. so here, z. so these are since a long time, very sensitive to everything. what, which is happening 11 and so 34 months ago for not
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a foreign minister at that them. ok. and said that they're out of bed wins or something like that yesterday. go to buy that them. they are attacked by many, many newspapers. and it is creating a very, very sensitive question. when's once so this is a very old friend to live and it was a protector of lebanon, and a was giving lebanon a lot of help. ok. in, i me away from this though. i mean, is it, is it saudi arabia, or is it that the hand of the united states also that's behind. that was the saudi arabia, very much allied. saudi arabia's allied to israel. now the biggest recipient of usa . it's embassy. the war, lebanon became one of the,
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of the tables of the war between is there an america gun counter is europe, and from the other side, iraq, and so lebanon, import, his bela imported. the problem of iran was jim, in the interior, garages of, you know, you know, that is when i, i think lots of bad citizens, lebanon would say, they wouldn't be lebanon without his willa, obviously, because, as you remember, the war, presumably it's not, it's not really true 1st of all, yes, has will law in the year 2000 ok resisted against israel. what is there was occupying of an eastern teacher and everybody i just, i was supporting as well. ok. but now that 1st of all is there is no more occupying lebanese territory. second of all, has belie,
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is in the dreaming in the internal policy. you know, it's very dangerous escape. lebanon is constitute by many communities. and can only be in very, very, very jeweler balance in a junior balance. so any community who took more advantage that she had provoked panic in the other community communities sector. any community who is bringing an external support, the other communities are bringing with them, also support the external support. so it's a very complicated situation. it's always a good by virtue of the constitution. of course it's, it's always complicated by, i mean, i have to, i mean, just most recently on the screens all across nato countries were blaming those blame for his bona for the killing of civilians. a judge as a file. and just,
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i mean, what, what, what is it, i mean, truly them, lebanon has to make a decision whether to turn east or turn west. the country is so strong, the tension is so high that any, any, any incident, any day, gun provoke, or an eternal. so you have a people that there is no good, i lost them. how can they be in total war? if, as you have good people who lost it has been a good minute money, 90 percent of the value of his money. you have a people who have no more to buy these prosperous people have no more to buy food or the hoard banking system for doubt. ok. there are there, we have pressures, american pressures, and these are even pressures. it's just that out which happens at about the i ok when you make a war, 2 acres for saturday,
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the officer it's resorts. so now there is a super high steering is super his theory and any incident, an incident which can happen anywhere. even if 2 people are fueling fuel invent cards and they are fighting, you can have a civil war. ok, this year is, will come to was this one because to come with the other system is will come with. so that's the problem of living. yes. to down there in class, hang on a minute, isn't there a class conflict here too? i mean, it's christian and has been a charities that are keeping the food going ahead of christmas right now. we see on we see on media here. the slightly matter of middle class is of a root demonstrating, but in terms of class conflict, are they not united? the poorest citizens of level as prices rocket 11 commonly,
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terry instinct communitarian aspect is the strongest. ok. so it's stronger than any other consideration. any other consideration? so people who have maybe the same policy, the same objectives, got b fighting against each other because of coming to the area public and the best use the problem. so the weight of his blood is now panicking every body. ok, the weight of his blood took the better to a war. where's the whole to a water crashes with the whole arab counties where you have thousands, hundreds of thousands of anybody's working there when you have thousands of companies, many companies working there and where you are. ok, so everybody is feeling that the policy has blocked, carry out of the problem. maybe it's true or
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a 100 percent or not. it's another question, but there is a large part of troops. well, obviously they are sanctioned. their politicians are sanctioned here in the, in the european union as regards and as, as regards a provocation from, as well as side as well. i would say you nature country, this sanctioning us are electra politicians. they're killing our soldiers in syria fighting factor, u. s. u. k, back terrorists and syria. how much provocation do you think shaking estrella can handle here is this goes on. many say that to his mother has enough to take over a lebanon tomorrow, within 24 hours, as well can take over the country, but chooses not to. i don't think historically, nobody succeeded in 2 alone took the culture. ok, if you take the history of lebanon every time he supported by any international
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power provoked the support of other international power to other communities. and the story ended or sold by 0, the on the zeros you. ok? i so i think that, yeah, the 1st or lebanon will not be to say, if his block is controlling, let you kind of, you kind of think about liberty. you can think about free culture. you can see the same as well as all that and shake this ral has been on this channel saying he would recommend complete freedom even even for atheists, as, as you know. but what about the sanctions one another? now you're going to have a copy of the it on your sheet. so if the copy of it on your receipt is a copy of is a good copy. ok,
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that's the same as you know as will deny that. but what about the sanctions that are being applied on getting a, sorta, sorta, sorta, sorta his will not, is not denying his belie same by the voice of his secretary. john has one mazama. we are the sons of how me and i, i mean i is our commander. how is our military commander is our, her father is our achieve. and we are linked to we latham fuck, he meets the dog, 3 of the of the the baby i, i smoke with kelly kelly is a believer and we invite some of them has wanted to come on. they never come on the show for some reason, but shake this rather denied that lebanon would be turned into anything like that. finally, i got to ask you, because there is sanctions that are preventing energy resources coming through to
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lebanon. what role do you think this new world order people often say about china? the bricks bank via the shang. i cooperation, organization, russia? what role should they be playing now? in the economic crisis, that is hitler, horace and the middle class is of lebanon today. you know, that the countries don't still want to make a war against iran because such a war is very audi, say, is very high bras for them. and so what they are doing is pushing, trying to push really bad news to make sure this is exactly what shot 11, it is became the arena of this. fought ok, well for isn't attacking has been law in this house. is really cost trick for america. back in iran,
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in the gulf is very costly. and so let's go to bush. so sanctions, so i think this is the main problem that all these people who are escaping got it going from fisher was on our side. they're both driven briscoe from fish. which webinar is kind of do which webinar. so it's internal communicating system. kind of don't. ok for the foreign minister. thank you. that's over the show will be back on wednesday to yes, the day of the u. s. u. k. back to in lithium, super val bolivia. you can see our interview with the new president and bolivia on our youtube channel until then keep in touch with social media. and let us know if you think any countries you'll be imposing blockades during the korean of ice. pandemic ah
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ah, i vaccine divisions and spalding protests in the united states stopped or of course temporarily blocked the vibe and administration's plan to impose compulsory covert shots on businesses and charged over the capitol hill. riots compassed foul conditions, washington jail to that of guantanamo bay. in the program, we speak with an investigative journalist who receives the prisoner's letter. i know that the january prisoners are being treated worse than prisoners. that's what i'm hearing from then you're not allowed to have visitors. and here just be put in solitary, blind in austin rog and ruffles with a security crisis after an alleged assassination attempt from the prime minister and deadly post election. right.

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