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instead, i'm funeral about, well, it's official. the us military has declared the great 3 powers competition featuring the us, russia, and china. how does neal liberal ideology play into this? and what does russia gate in january 6? i'm in common. ah. to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he's a podcast or at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at you know me internet media project, gentleman cross top rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. i mean, let's go to moscow here. a demon general milly came out with a speech that startled the establishment, but really shouldn't have is there is a new try polar trilateral world, and it's russia, china, and the united states. and, but when i took away from it is that, you know,
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it's not really that it's kind of a bipolar or bipolar point or something like that because he's assuming that these are 3 discrete powers that are in competition with each other, which is not the case ok, what is he getting in? go ahead. well, i think there is no objective, physical reason or confusion because russia has been very accommodating the mind. is you paid for 1000. i mean, all the russian, all field gas fields, they're all but, you know, there was a pro and mary comes. we're welcome to china. we'll do more income and date since the late seventy's was the chief chinese, the labor problem. success that we have seen in the mind is that so the reasons for these are the conference
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and it's just funny to see how the state is trying to make russia in china. or, i mean there was a logical charm. i chose question in the, in the 440 which was headline general, how can we, how can we make russian moral just shame. and the story is that we are actually in china, diverge, and there was 2 reasons. object. 2 reasons for rivalry. when was rivals very simple reason with you will, you can develop without each other. and there is a common french, i mean, the other student you're on the stage 1st. the problem,
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you know, a prompt is crazy. you want to or china with no reason. now, why didn't it all and sample was jarring, that degrees, you know, even increase in weight and your family don't democracy is the sound, but it's really and the china and russia. and then by the end of this very surprised a lot when you, when they read and the reason why this, why the station there right now they have been playing in russia in china seas. and we don't want to be when we want real, real good rate. i mean you dial, but that's what milly wants. so by the way, george, we're going to have a lot of fun with the democracy conference coming up. there's a lot of room for mockery there. but we'll save that for another day. george, i mean, milly's words are kind of interesting. he's a very silly man,
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but it looks on the one hand, on the one hand, there's an acknowledgement. finally, he's been russia, china. great powers took a long time, but it's there. but then on the other hand, this is the, the, the, the, the paradigm for the new cold war. and we need a lot of arms for it. you know? so you know, a buckle up and brace for impact, you know, because the arm is it producing industry, you're going to be really busy. go ahead. george. yes, no question. because you also said a couple of days earlier off of this aspen conference and then there's a split moment. china has now reached the side on the missiles and therefore. busy you know, the united states will have to go into overdrive in order to catch up and opens a china because everyone knows what school need moment means. it's a massive investment in military, in science and research and everything, which is what happened to the, the shock of the soviet though, i mean,
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this is clearly, i mean, it is healthy that the united states except that there are other great powers that have their own. busy interests that may or may not come into conflict with the interests of united states. i mean it's, it's always been the us and there's no reason to be particularly horrified by this event. the question is, what does the united states intend to do about this? and, you know, if one passes the words of mil, it suggests that well the united states has to take all these great power rivals because we just don't go on living with the existence of great power i was. and acknowledging the interest of these great and really the, the, the, the issue is also that russia and china are really not rivals at all. i mean, they basically are, are, you know, the fact of. busy allies,
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i mean the not military allies, but they are, you know, each of their foreign policy interest in foreign policy positions on most issues in the world. they are in agreement. and then russia and china had been brought to this very close partnership. that's the result of the united states or just this unit kind of mutual still lived into both. both of you threatened by the united states. they have grown increasingly goes together. so now it's, it's kind of finds it. so some isolated when we're facing this are very substantial long and deem a b. again, you know, that we can bring up a new cold war paradigm. but on china's and nominally a communist country is run by a communist party. but it doesn't want to export its ideology, unlike during the 1st cold war. russia, well, it's just a conservative country out there interested in its own self interest here. but how,
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how, how it is american exceptionalism play in this. because i'm the one hand, you know, you're just said, you know, there's a finally, a reckoning, a recognition. finally, it took a long time that there are other great powers. ok, but the, there they're not this, these 3 great powers are not the same for the u. s is very intend to export ideology rules based order and all that other nonsense here. and that's what for me, makes it dangerous because the, that russia, basically it's a status quo power is, you know, why don't you let us alone and develop on our own china. it is not looking for a quarrel with the united states, though you wouldn't believe that from liberal media or on media in the united states. so this american exceptionalism, again, is a, is a break, rational thinking, in my opinion, go ahead, team. well, make an exception. wait here and the scroll is very, i mean, what would you be doing with the state relations with china?
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there is, by the way. and there is, for example, need to have the last go you why the old find china is important over an oil longer and you have arrived from my end ribeiro were you while the train you or is there was, you know, it's a, it's a huge, arise you're with being that you have a chinese very core file or 100 percent. great choice. well then you're like right here. if i know how they are out there, liberal ideology, you know, why did it take so much time for united day trying to has been growing rich in the last 40 years. right. why don't, you know, will be us. there will be 3 be represented by intellectuals and
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was done by some of all the stuff if you get reach, you get them all at this point that stuff, the american demographic that we're just arguing. what will happen when they, when they get 5000 goals and one was, it was, it was, you know, because you have maybe reached which do not accept american values. and you may just back up to the right to see that spoke to the government. so basically. busy you know, the way that i do apologize for that is blaming china. oh, ground good became so rich and how come you gently best a girl you're not supposed to do so you are supposed to last for us. so we
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have this, you know, kind of, you know, you could, you know, make noted your mistakes, if this operating for your old, you painted or are things in senior lead. fancy, china, it's all this i go to school is all the house is a government in china. it's iraq. it's, you know, also the syria is there us, that's a band aid. and a no charge. i mean, when you're, if, if anyone uses a nikki haley is a rep for it's one of the lowest los octane thinkers that we've come across in our lifetime and being a foreign policy expert here. i mean, the demons absolutely right here. i mean, it seems to me that i go back to the more kind of nuts and bolts thing i'm in this id. ology is the service of very specific narrow interest. i mean, this is a good grift ahead. ok. i mean, i lost it in afghanistan. i gotta make it up here someplace. ok,
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i mean shareholders are asking ok, and of course it plays to the american exceptionalism a paradigm. and as you pointed out, you know, the u. s. s. the stand up to be through it or to, i mean it's, and you know, it's a wonderful narrative that you can beat the masses. ok, as, as, as you know, with, with these mom bills, the biden is as putting through congress, you know, congress who actually passing and it just makes the rich richer. and it's a streaming in the middle class even more. but don't worry, we've got to fight the good fight. i mean, this isn't ridiculous. go ahead, george. yes, yes, this is an excellent point because it is a indian logical fight that the vitamin administration in particular wants to wait . because a trump really was the 1st president who had brought up the issue of a sesame when you 1st of all had the whole cold war paradigm. china's great because china is on our side against the soviet union,
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even though china was then in the midst of this cultural revolution. but they all great and then good guys because i went outside and that went on from quite a while because it was still. busy a grade below that it was russian, and you can see that manifested in the expansion of nato. and then i think, you know, right, you know, with trauma and wait, china is now a serious economic rival. i mean, you know, it will be the number one economy in the world, but trump made this into a non media logical company. i mean, he was taken on everybody who's of economic interests of our class. and those of the united states when buying is done, is brought back to the cold war aspect to it, which is china's e d. a logical rival chinese. i'm out o waging some sort of a flight project. they've got an american idea that waging a flight of b r a. we're going to go, we're going to go to a short break, but george's, right, that's why they got rid of. for those reasons, exactly. all right,
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we're going to go to what you're breaking up about your break. we'll continue our discussion on some real stay, ah, ah, and dig into global macro economics. and once again, visit the treacherous pattern of our central planners to control the money printing. as a career professional support is much tougher on some than others with why would somebody be lead me a little girl to price or perry to to, to achieve really was was proud to read on the paper this morning usa
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welcome back to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter level. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah ok. let's go back to budapest, as our viewers new learn from last week i asked my guess what they would like to talk about and they send me suggestions and demon george. most of the suggestions and the topic are at hand right now, is george's suggestion. what, how can we correlate together? what, or what does russia gate and january 6 mom narratives have in common george because you haven't such a fascinating pieces. go ahead. well, because what we learned this week through the indictment that was issued against ego done jenko was the source for the principal steel dossier which was at the
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hollow. the russian gate folks was there from start to finish. every item in russia gate was invented by american operatives of clinton campaign oper, gives democratic party operatives. and then of course, the contributions of various people in the f b i, the cia gave it credibility, gave oxygen launched massive investigation that was a special counsel. and what happened was, the complete d, legitimize ation all the presidential election of 2016. and so it was now was presented in the media over and over again. several years. trump became president through the assistance of the russians the kremlin. dave, in post trump on the united states, we now know there was no russian in whatsoever in washington. now there was 0,
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it was all american. but it was a hopes that you know of this political purpose, which was basically get a truck administration never really recovered from the blows. busy busy of russia gate constantly struggling to impeachment of special council investigation as on the january. the 6th thing is also host. i mean, we know really the outlines of what happened was mostly peaceful progress. it was something went wrong. it became a riot, wasn't particularly serious, right? all it was restored within a few hours. nonetheless, the media in alliance with democratic party and again in alliance with the f. b, i was characters within the, by the ministration a rig a sold on the american democracy, a game of d, legitimizing the opposition, which is wrong when it's the same characters
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a both it's one was, you know, an outside adversary meddling inside american politics. that narrative, and now we have the same characters that are targeting. well essentially half the population b, i wasn't exactly, you know, the media. it's the same thing. so it's, it's really the same paradigm just as, what is the domestic features to it. ok. give me your thoughts here because this is that this is the same. leach, trying to pull a, a pull off a narrative that is completely contrived. and it is in service of power. ok the what it is, it's a, it's a way to annihilate, not to question, but to annihilate your political adversaries by head i got up so i would use the what year i mean book what was the purpose of this whole. busy russian gate,
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what was the outcome? was contra counter and then you're going to which the, i guess the russian eat, basically long only reach depot and russia are also there. and it is all important to wherever, in a way any connection can be targeted by casa the same story with, in a way to get women. so it's a way for jimmy date, russia at the shows and russian science. and i use the same story with john on a seemingly s, the actual book where i absolutely before it was the punishments were so severe the language use them was so also that in fact, i think that in can people,
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i mean don't given dr. always enough, as the, as the whole problem is that all these stories are based on a lie. i mean, the nice find out read magazine, bro, the lines that you were going to a lot, the more you know. and if you the way roddicks, if right now, just a few days ago, there was, there is a dock or move that for you own us where you know on us there were no extra the guys well, the whole rush gave this done to the story about wrong, and the ration ross did use i you're in a general hill in a more school office, you know, the american media urinate or go up there for several years. and the language that
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you was was so rude, so force. and it was based on the lives of just one individual either and maybe then jenko is a product, probably a pretty creepy character. i don't know him personally, but i mean he, he did when he was asked to do, he was asked to do apo research and you know, to get your paycheck. you've got to push the envelope there, you know, come on, maybe a little bit more, a little bit more spicy. ok, a doesn't get them, i'll get him on it. i will just say a. busy busy hans monkwood is very well you say, here's what we're lean advisors each the story darnesha, dungeon feeds the story cuz you steal things in the story if you, if you haven't seen it for them yet, and then we have 3 years old wise, that is wonderful. okay, but let me go back to george here. man, the, the, the interesting thing for me is, and i'm going to wait with you and i talked to the gaggle about the virginia election, but you know,
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the default position for the liberal media is january 6th. i think the border, january, 6th, vaccines, january 36. okay. this is exactly what russia gave was. it was a default position. ok. and they can so at any opposition is deem interaction is here. this is what they're doing. i mean, not only is a very destructive, but they don't allow any other and they don't allow an interactive because if you disagree, well of course in your racist ok, this is, this is a closed loop narrative. just like rush a gate go head us. yes, no question, and purpose of rushing, it was always d, legitimize and ultimately destroy the trump residents. in many ways, it succeeded. but that's what january the 6th of january. the 6th is the, the go to the position of the democrats, every failure of the vital ministration. well, let's talk about john. you were to say, and you know,
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we know the outcome of this. i mean, eventually that january, the 6th committee will issue is report, it will undoubtedly say from a version an insurrection, and then the overthrow of the legitimate government of the united states. he must be impeached with a view to ensure that you never again office in the united states. that's a go. and then this is, this will happen. i mean i, i still think there will be a so impeachment of trump before on the mid terms. you know, and this is, you know, the way you operate with hopes and that's why it's important. it's the same characters are involved in both biden, hello, c, obama, the f b i a because they never really paid a price for russia. gates. they're able to just simply continue as before, without any challenge. i have to say george, but i mean, over throwing a democratic elect, the less doesn't all around the world, right. don't do it. no,
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no, no. but the interesting thing is, now that we're on it, there's this whole regime change paradigm that they, they can jam is incorrect. united states, the same player to bring the regime change playbook. there's ukraine is the most outstanding one in recent memory here. but they're, they're applying a lot of the same strategies just focusing on mag, people and people that are in orbit. i mean, it's really quite remarkable. it's an a template that apparently can be imported. go ahead. well, i mean we have so many here, party stories on the situation to the why the biggest media guy. they do this for, for the posing bar. and then the right reason,
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the biggest where to do the same thing. they just, they did it and it was 9 years, 5 years old, basically the same thing, right? you know, by the same story with, you know, you bring a peaceful road to get a police lane conference on them. they are, you, you know, any way they should be, should all said the role there. yeah. you're awesome. and basically, what did they do? they, and the ottoman and saw them did the different ways for obvious reasons. you know, because they were in the congress by these people as of the, as far as i understand that there august member out there hold for
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one time. how in your brain, if you're roy and they know these people, i'm glad you're bringing up the, the, the, the utter contradictions. here, george ashley babbitt. i mean, if you want liberal media, she's demonize as a terror, an armed woman, a veteran, f, someone like a 100 pounds and 5 foot 3. she's being demonized as a terrorist that could have potentially who knows like a terminator taken out the floor of congress. i mean, this is absurd. and then the officer that murdered her and i say the word murdered her. it is turned into a hero. last 30 seconds got to you. and this is exactly parallel between january the 6th rush against the real clear criminals of russia, gate steel toe, me,
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but k, all the people who gave oxygen and you and knew that this was a hoax. i've gone on punish. and he actually bought it was mother called love and woman and the guy who did it a policeman who shot that close range without any warning. he sales a year or so. that's the thing. you know, the real criminals are the true crimes that were committed. well that they've gone on punish, or everyone else as a soccer with roger. so what didn't do anything? well, have some of the regulations and the same people that are doing it here. all right, that's all the time we want to thank my guest here in moscow. we're still watching this here are next time, remember? ah, ah,
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