tv Cross Talk RT November 8, 2021 11:00pm-11:30pm EST
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a full and fresh look at you news. this is our international with, with, with hello and welcome to cross off. were all things are considered, i'm funeral about, well, it's official. the u. s. military has declared the great 3 powers competition featuring the u. s. russia and china. how does neo liberal ideology play into this? and what does russia gate and genuine 6, i'm and com. ah, to discuss these shoes and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel,
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l. e. in budapest, he's a podcast or at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at you know me internet media project. i generally crossed off rules and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. i mean, let's go to moscow. here. demon general miller came out with a speech that startled the establishment, but really shouldn't have is there is a new tri polar trilateral world, and it's russia, china, and the united states. and, but what i took away from it is, is that, you know, it's not really that it's kind of a bipolar or bipolar point 8 or something like that because he's assuming that these are 3 discrete powers that are in competition with each other, which is not the case, okay, what is he getting up? go ahead. well i think there is no objective physical reason for the
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confusion because. busy russia has been very accommodating the mind. you said 2000, i mean all the russian, all field gas fields, they're all been, you know, there was a project married. we're welcome to china will do more in common date since the late 70. it was the chief chinese labor, the problem success that we have seen in the mind is that in the early. so the reasons for these are the conference and just wanted to see how do night states is trying to make russia in china. or, i mean, there was a logical charm. i chose question in the, in the 40 and 40 see it, which was headline general, how can we, how can we make russia and moral shame. and
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the story is that it, you, that you are actually diverge. and there was 2 reasons, object, 2 reasons for rivalry. when was rivals for very simple reason with you will, you can get develop without each other. and there is a threat. i mean, the other student you, on the stage 1st, the liberal media crowds, the problem, you know, if you want to, or china with no reason. now, biden is all and sample was china degrees, you know, even increase in a way and your family don't. democracy is the one down, but it's really and the china and russia. and then by the end of the very surprised
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that the chinese are the right when you, when they read and the reason why or why the station there. i mean, sure, there have been playing in russia in china or seems, and we don't want to be we didn't want real real rate. i mean you dial, but that's what milly wants. so by the way, george, we're going to have a lot of fun with the democracy conference coming up. there's a lot of room for mockery there, but we'll save that for another day. george, i mean milly's words are kind of interesting. he's a very silly man. but it looks on the one hand, on the one hand, there's an acknowledgement. finally, he's been russia, china, great powers. it took a long time, but it's there. but then on the other hand, this is the, the, the, the paradigm for the new cold war. and we need a lot of arms for it, you know? so you know, a buckle up and brace for impact. you know, because the arm is producing industry,
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you're going to be really busy. go ahead. george. yes, no question. because you also said a couple of days earlier off of this aspen conference and then there's a splitting moment. china has now reached the side on the missiles and therefore. busy you know, the united states will have to go into overdrive in order to catch up and overtake china because everyone knows what school need moment means. it's a massive investment in military, in sciences, research and everything, which is what happened off the, the shock of the soviet though, i mean, this is clearly, i mean, it is healthy that the united states except that there are other great powers that have their own. busy interests that may or may not come into conflict with the interests of united states. i mean it's, it's always been the us and there's no reason to be particularly horrified by this
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event. the question is, what does the united states intend to do about this? and, you know, if one passes the words of mil, it suggests that while the united states has to take on these great power rivals because we just can't go on living with the existence of great power i was and acknowledging the interests of these great and really really the issue, he's also that russia and china are really not rivals at whole. i mean they basically are, are you know, the facto. busy allies, i mean the not military allies, but they are in terms of their foreign policy interest in foreign policy positions, most issues in the world. they are in agreement. and then russia in china have been brought to this very close partnership. that's the result of the united states or just this unit, kind of a mutual hostility toward both both of you threatened by the united states. they
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have grown increasingly goes together. so nice. it's kind of finds it. so someone isolated with facing this are very substantial long and demon b. again, you know that we can bring up a new cold war paradigm. but on china's and nominally a communist country, it's run by a communist party. but it doesn't want to export its ideology. unlike during the 1st cold war, russia, well, it's just a conservative country out there interested in its own self interest here. but how, how do account is american exceptionalism play in this? because i'm the one hand, you know, if you're just said, you know, there's a finally, a reckoning, a recognition. finally, it took a long time that there are other great powers. ok. but the, there they're not this, these 3 great powers are not the same for the u. s. is very and tend to export. it's ivy ology rules based order and all that other nonsense here. and that's what for me, makes it dangerous because the, that russia, basically it's
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a status quo power is, you know, why don't you let us alone and develop on our own china that is not looking for a quarrel with the united states, though you wouldn't believe that from liberal media or on media in the united states. so this american exceptionalism, again, is a, is a break rational thinking, in my opinion, go ahead team. well, make an exception. wait here and the scroll is very, i mean, what would you be having tonight? states relations with china, there is, by the way, and there is, for example, need to have the last go you why the old fine china is important oil longer and you have arrived from my end ribeiro were you while the training you or is there was you know it's a, it's
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a huge variety going to be the, to have a chinese very core file or great choice. but you're quite right. yes, i know how they are out there. liberal ideology. you know, why did it take so much time for the day trying to has been growing rich in the last 40 years. right. why don't, you know, will be for us there will be 3 be represented by intellectuals and was done by some of all in the room that interest use them. if you get reach, you get all of this stuff, the american demographic that we're just arguing at what will happen when they, when they get 5000 goals. and one was it was, it was not,
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you know, because you have maybe reached which do not accept american values. and you have made, just like to see that spoke to the government. so basically, you know, the way that i do apologize for that is blaming time. oh ground good became so rich and how come you gently best a girl you're not supposed to do so you are supposed to last for us. so we have this, you know, kind of, you know, you could, you know, make noted your mistakes. if these are pretty bro, i told you, painted or are fancy. i only fancy china. it's all this. i go to school. if all the house is a government in china, it's the green, iraq, it's, you know, also the syria is there us. that's and then m and a no charge. i mean,
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when you're, if, if anyone uses a nikki haley has a rep for one of the lowest lowest octane thinkers that we've come across in our lifetime and being a foreign policy expert here. i mean, the demons absolutely right here. i mean, it seems to me that i go back to the more kind of nuts and bolts thing. i'm in this ideologies in the service. a very specific, narrow interest. i mean, this is a good grift ahead. ok. i mean, i lost it in afghanistan. gotta make it up here someplace. ok, i mean, shareholders are asking ok, and of course it plays to the american exceptional as a paradigm. and as you pointed out, you know, the u. s. s a stand up to me through it or to, i mean it's, and you know, it's a wonderful narrative that you can beat the masses. ok, as, as, as you know, with, with these mom bills that biden is as putting through congress, you know, congress who actually passing and it just makes the rich richer. and it's
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a streaming in the middle class even more. but don't worry, we've got to fight the good fight. i mean, this isn't ridiculous. go ahead, george. yes, yes, this is an excellent point because it is a indian logical fight that the biden administration particular wants to wait. because a trump really was the 1st president who had brought up the issue of a me when you 1st of all have the whole cold war paradigm. china is great because china is on our side against the soviet union, even though china was then in the midst of this cultural revolution. but all great and good guys because outside and that went on from why to why? because it was still a grade below that it was russian. and you can see that manifested in the expansion of nato. and then i think, you know, right, you know, with trauma and weight, china is now a serious economic rival. i mean, you know, it will be the number one economy in the world, but trump made this into
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a known media, logical conflict. i mean, he was taking on everybody who's of economic interest class and those of the united states when buying is done, he said, going back to the cold war aspect to it, which is china's e d. a logical rival, chinese amount waging some sort of a flight project. they've got an american idea that waging a flight of b r a. and we're going to go, we're going to go to a short break, but george's right. that's why they got rid of for those reasons. exactly. all right, we're going to go to a short breaking up about your break. we'll continue our discussion on some real state. oh, in we're gonna dig in to lowball macro economics. and once again,
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visit the treacherous path of our central planners to control the money printing the road is driven by trainers shaped by centers and those with there's things we dare to ask in ah, welcome back to cross dock. were all things are considered? i'm peter lavelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some
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real news. ah. okay, let's go back to budapest. as our viewers knew, learn from last week. i asked my guess what they would like to talk about and they send me suggestions and the men, george, most of the suggestions and the topic they're at hand right now is george's suggestion. what, how can we correlate together? what or what does russia gate and january 6 mom narratives have in common georgia because you have it's such a fascinating thesis. go ahead. well, because what we learned this week through the indictment that was issued against the ego jenko, who was the source for the crystal steel dossier which was at the ha, the rush again, folks was there from start to finish. every item, if russia gate was invented by american operatives for clinton,
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campaign operatives, democratic party operatives. and then of course, the contributions of various people in the f, b i, the cia gave it credibility, gave oxygen launched a massive investigation. that was that the, the special counsel and what happened was the complete d, legitimize ation of the presidential election of 2016. and so it was now was presented in the media instigation of song. but the january, the 6 thing is also host. i mean, we know really the outlines of what happened was mostly peaceful progress. it was something went wrong, it became a riot, wasn't particularly serious, right? all it was restored within a few hours. nonetheless, the media in alliance with democratic party. and again, in alliance with the f,
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b on, with characters within the, by the ministration of, with the saw into some rig a sold on the american democracy. a game of d, legitimizing the opposition, which is wrong when it's the same characters a one was you know, an outside adversary meddling inside american politics. that narrative. and now we have the same characters that are targeting. well, essentially half the population f, b i, i don't exactly know, you know, the media. it's the same thing. so it's a, it's really the same paradigm. it just has, what is the domestic features to it? ok, d my, your thoughts here because this is that, this is the same. leach trying to pull a, a pull off a narrative that is completely contrived and it is in service of power. ok, what it's a, it's a way to annihilate, not to question,
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but not only your political adversary i had or europe. so i would use the what year i mean. busy what was the purpose of this whole russian gate? what was the outcome? was contra counter and they were going to sanction which the, i guess the russian eat, basically long only reach depot and russia also there. and it is going to be wherever, in a way, any connections be targeted by casa the same story with, in a way to get women. so it's a way for genie date, russia at the shows and russia was science that i use the same story with john on a seemingly s that actual book where i absolutely
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floored by the punishments were so severe. the language use was so or style that in fact, i think the in can people, i mean, don't given dr. always enough, as the, as the whole problem is that all these stories are based on a lie. i mean, the find out, read magazine, bro, the lines that if you will love them or you know, and if you do the way roddicks, if right now, just a few days ago, there was, there was a dodge for rules that for you own us, where you know on us or no extra the guys were present. well, the all russia gates in this dungeon,
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the story about drug and the russian ross did use, i mean, they just, you're an angel him in a morsel office, you know, the american media urinate or go up there for several years. and the language that you was was so rude, so force, and it was based on the lives of just one individual either and maybe then jenko is a product, probably a pretty creepy character. i don't know him personally, but i mean he, he did what he was asked to do. he was asked to do apo research and you know, to get your paycheck, you got to push the envelope there, you know? like maybe a little bit more, a little bit more spicy. ok? it doesn't get them. i'll get him on it. i will just stay with. busy hans, monkey very well you say, here's what we're leading to the advisor each. the story dungeon feeds the story cuz you steal things the story because you still have teens it to the media and
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then we have 3 years old wise. that is wonderful. ok. but let me go back to george, him and the, the interesting thing for me is that i'm going to wait with you. and i talked to gaggle about the virginia election, but you know, the default position for the liberal media is january 6th. i think the border, january, 6th, vaccines, january 36. okay. this is exactly what russia gave was. it was a default position. ok. and they can so at any opposition is deem interaction is here. this is what they're doing. i mean, not only is a very destructive, but they don't allow any other and they don't allow any interaction. because if you disagree, well of course in your racist ok, this is, this is a closed loop narrative. just like rush gate go head us. yes, no question. and purpose of rushing it was boys delegitimize and ultimately destroy the trump residents,
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and in many ways it succeeded. but that's what january the 6th of january, the 6th is the, the go to possession of the democrats, every failure of the vital ministration. well, let's talk about john, you would say, and you know, we know the outcome of this. i mean, eventually that january, the 6th committee will issue report, it will undoubtedly say trump a version an insurrection. and then the overthrow of the legitimate government of the united states. he must be impeached with a view to ensure that you never again office in the united states. that's the go. and this is, this will happen. i mean, i, i still think there will be a good impeachment of trump before on the mid terms. you know, and this is, you know, the way you operate with hopes and that's why it's important. it's the same characters are involved in both biden low c obama,
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and they're all in on it because they never really paid a price for russia. they're able to just simply continue as before without any challenge. i have to say george, but i mean, over throwing a democratic a around the world, right. don't do it. no, no, no. but the interesting thing is, now that we're on it, there's this whole regime change paradigm that they, they can damage interact, united states, the same players have bring the regime change playbook. ukraine is the most outstanding one in recent memory here, but they're, they're applying a lot of the same strategies just focusing on mag people and people that are in talk trumps or but, i mean, it's really quite remarkable if it's an a template that apparently can be imported go ahead. well, i mean we have so many here, party stories on the situation or to the why
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the biggest media as they do for for the posing bar and then the right to read them. the biggest best way to, to do. ready the same thing, they just, they did it and it was 9 years, 5 years old, basically the same thing, right? you know, you need your, the same story with, you know, you bring a peaceful road to get a police lane. hundreds of them. they are, you, you know, because all the way they should be, all said they were all there. you're awesome. and basically what all does is do they,
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and the ottoman and saw them did the different ways for obvious reasons. you know, because they were in the congress by these people as of the, as far as i understand that there august, my number out there were hold for wait, i'm time call in your brain. if you're roy and the premium and these people, i'm glad you're bringing up the, the, the, the utter contradictions. here. george ashley babbitt. i mean, if you want liberal media, she's demonize as a terror, an armed woman, a veteran, f, someone like a 100 pounds and 5 foot 3. she's being demonized as a terrorist that could have potentially who knows like a terminator taken out the floor of congress. mean this is absurd. and then the
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officer that murdered her and i think the word murdered her is, is turned into a hero. last 30 seconds got a huge or exactly. this is exactly parallel between january the 6, then rush against the real player criminals of russia gave a seal co, me, mccade. all the people who gave oxygen and you and knew that this was a hoax. i've gone on punish, and here actually bad. it was mother in cold blood and woman and the guy who did it a belizean who showed her that he got close range without any warning. he sales a hero. so that's a thing. you know, the real criminals are the true crimes were committed. well that they've done on punish i where everyone else has that the soccer. when in russia they do at lynn. roger, so what then do anything well, have a reputation in the same people that are doing it here. all right, that's all the time we want to thank my guest here in montgomery. we're still
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