the bolts are determined, ave, locked down for as long as possible, and for everybody to be forced to have whatever medical treatment they particularly think they should have. these people are extremely dangerous, and these people will destroy society through their risk aversion. next thought he'll commentary investigates how the sexual abuse of mine is in sports is often overlooked and covered up by the system. that's coming up for you next that nikki aaron will take the hot seat in half an hour to bring you the nightly news update. sir, do jonas again here on our team international in half an hour? ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk

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join me every thursday on the alex salmon. sure. and i'll be speaking to guess on the world politics sport business. i'm sure business. i'll see you then. ah, lawyer, john little is well acquainted with the federation's history. he has made it his mission to fight for justice for the victims of sexual abuse and sport. he has worked on countless cases in sports such as gymnastics, diving, fencing and field hockey. but there have been more lawsuits against usa swimming than against any other federation. well, these are, these are the stuff in swimming. this stuff is pretty old. this is 8292,

which guys ah, i cannot keep track of all the swimmers that have called me over the years. there's too many. john has all kinds of documents in his files such as this confession from 1986 signed by a coach. i recur, do declare of my own free will in volition that i have had sexual intercourse with minor kelly m davies. rick caroll was one of the top american coaches. his victim was 15. despite the lawsuit. 8 years later, he was appointed coach of the year, and he worked for another 26 years before finally being sentenced to 7 years in prison. little's files also include a dispatch from associated press reporting, the exclusion of mich ivy. a former olympic champion turned coach from his club for having intimate relations with several under age athletes. one of them later became

his wife. usa swimming only excluded him and 2013 schon hutchinson, george kidney jack nelson, charles or robin. the roll call goes on usa swimming, covered up dozens of cases. you know, if you're just some average coach here in indianapolis and you got arrested from last in kids, they would kick you out of swimming very simply. if you are a good coach, however, somebody like sean hutchinson, they handled or every luciano or rick carl, or mic, try be fill in the blank. if you are a successful coach that produced metals and money for them, they handled your claim differently. they sent your claim to a board of review, maybe or are they just white wash the whole thing? as long as the metals and money keep coming, they don't care. metals are crucial to the federation's financial success. and to when metals you need good coaches. so to

ensure usa swimming prosperity, chuck well guest decided to protect his best coaches, even when there was damning evidence against them. as the lawyer, bob ballard found out when he defended other abuse survivors. chuck wallace briley was ah, the mastermind of his time as far as being able to deceive, being able to lie and cover up for a pedophile coaches he mastered the cobra. ah, many documents tree of chuck wall. this is personal responsibility, such as the story of the west coast swimming, hoge, andrew king, who was notorious for engaging his swimmers and sex games and inviting them to his home. in 2003, the head of a club notified chug, well guessed that a young female swimmer had complained. here as wal, gus's reply, no formal complaint is being filed. so there is no formal action for you or us to

take. he adds. this matter should be kept confidential by both you and us. despite the cover up by the federation, this particular coach was tried and sentenced to 40 years imprisonment. it emerged that he had abused 15 swimmers. one of them had to have an abortion at the age of 14 diesel, her old leather approval, your girl plays on to mid thigh. his ear in marriage not goes up by his own. theo will gone for me to seal up real as you guys can get dahlia yet is also a finance you these on his sincere d like to montoya philadelphia, i assume as the federations executive director, chuck well guess reap the greatest rewards from usa swimming success. i hear the oh, almost a $1000000.00 a year job living in colorado springs i with everything taken care of for you 1st class tickets to olympic sites and board of director meetings in places like king

coon and costa rica. he had a pretty good ah, at the time the public had no idea of the sexual abuse and swimming. but chuck wall guests feared an outbreak of scandal, as shown by a recording we obtained here he is addressing coaches at their annual convention in 2009 says this is, this is the hardest ideas for me to speak to. because you're the people who make the sport work crew. i respect the most. i read in the paper this morning, usa swimming coach kissimmee, florida, arrested allegedly had sex with a 12 year old girl. this happens almost every week. we get calls at the office. i get informed about it. one of my greatest fears is someone is go start leaking all this together. it was going to be

a 60 minute documentary about youth coaches in sports like gymnastics and swimming. ah, the very next year his fears came true. yo girls with big dreams working long and hard for a shot at olympic. lori tonight is scandal unfold. dozens of highly regarded swim coach is across the country guilty of sexual misconduct with vulnerable young girls the u. s. media seized on chuck while gus is reaction to the swimmers. harrowing testimonies ah, you feel i need to apologize to them. just look as claimed he had done his utmost to prevent abuse and denied all blame me. he did not resign and kept his job until his death in 2017 mm. in 2018. a california newspaper estimated that a total of $590.00 swimmers had suffered sexual abuse. usa swimming

refused to answer our questions, but a former vice president agreed to meet us. i went to the 2008 beijing olympic games that i opened my mouth about the sexual abuse problem and in 2010. i was a persona non grata and thanks for my previous service. ah, mike salt steen told us that at the time usa swimming did not just protect abusers from the 1980s onwards. even before a chuck wall guess got there. the federation had a strategy for dealing with cases of this kind and limiting their financial impact . her in theory victims family should go to the police and bring a lawsuit against the coach, a club, and the federation her. but in the usa, lawyers fees can run into tens of thousands of dollars. and in this type of case,

the outcome is uncertain because the abuse is often difficult to prove her. so most cases are settled out of court. the lawyer is acting for the 2 parties come to an agreement on the amount of compensation to be paid to the victim. it is not the federation that pays, but its insurance company ah, in 1988 usa swimming set up its own insurance company, u. s. s i c domiciled on the caribbean island of barbados. ah, but the number of cases soon became problematic. u. s. s i c. noted the rise and claims of sexual abuse and molest. in fact, it quickly became 3rd most expensive part of usa swimming insurance programs. and it became apparent that we needed to decrease the exposure of usage to the

sexual abuse and molest claims. ah, so the insurance firms said a cap of the $100000.00 on compensation and to receive the money the families had to sign a confidentiality agreement. and promised not to bring any lawsuits in the future. what they did is they created a small policy of a $100000.00, hoping that everybody would just take the $100000.00 every every kid a complaint about be molested and would just walk away. and that by and large, worked through 20072008. they were able to buy off all their claims for 100 grand. they could have obtain much more. they went to, to all millions. i mean that the stuff that happened to these, these children is worth, i don't know how you put a price. i got it, but certainly not a $100000.00. or when did you think about this system? it's the right system from an insurance company. it's the right way for an

insurance company to protect itself. it's the wrong way for the parent organization to act. ah lastly, the federation set up a sort of internal court of justice made up of lawyers and high ranking usa swimming officials are and in the united states we have mandatory reporter laws. which means if you as an adult, involved with children, have a reasonable suspicion of, of an issue. you must reported to the local police. what somebody was doing was reading something, those complaints accepting that parents, phone call and not reporting to the police. not asking the parents to report to the poets it telling them that it was usa swimming responsibility. it's obligation and usa swimming would handle it completely. unbeknownst to the parent,

what they do is they put receptive arbitrators on this panel. we're talking coaches who have been in relationships with their swimmers. we're talking attorneys who have defended usa swimming on sex abuse claims. we're talking about a woman who married her swim coach, who's now a lawyer. so they hand select the arbitrators who will be hearing these claims. i believe it was obstruction. it was, it was obstruction of justice. in the sense i personally did, i think that was a fair system. it's a spiderweb ah, this curious system function for over 20 years. throughout that time, usa swimming deliberately obstructed genuine reforms. ah, the olympic medalist david burke off remembers it vividly in 1091 as a usa swimming board member. he chaired

a small working group task with recommending solutions. ah, i was the chair and i was 25 years old. i wasn't the adult the room. and here's this young person say, we need to protect the athletes. and everybody in that room i think was very aware of rick curl and niche ivy and many others that i didn't even know about. ah, and did nothing for the group made several recommendations. recommendation to usa, swimming it, a 1800 number, be created to serve as a referral and information service recommendation that coaches in teams obtain certified professional rubdown specialists or trainers. many coaches can be placed and potentially compromising situations. any usa swimming member convicted of sexual misconduct will instantly lose their usa swimming card. not one of the

measures was implemented. when you have a culture that is tolerated, this for so long change is going to be slow and change is going to come from the outside and the olympic sports movement white. the catholic church, like the orthodox jewish community, is a closed community. and when you have closed communities at refuse to regulate themselves and refuse to what outside bois is in, this is, this is the result, ah, we're empowering ourselves to be more efficient or quicker with our transactions. but with that comes a trade off. every device is a potential entry point for security at any machine, and it's an extension of traditional time. the defenders have always been one step behind the attackers. both coordinate with him was one comes option

your saying it's not a matter of if it's happens, it's a matter of went with ah, to limit the number of court cases usa swimming went even further. as jan c. thomson found out to her cost it all started when she decided to file a complaint. chancey was bullied and sexually abused by her coach between the ages of 13 and 20. it took her years to realize what had been done to her and decide to seek justice when she began to be molested, she was the age,

her children are now. it's super high for me to allow them to have a childhood because out of my son's age i didn't have one. it was already starting to be stripped away from me. and at that point, recalling what had happened and piecing together. her memories took her a long time reader aboard by the time she had done so it was too late. she was over the age limit for filing a sexual abuse. complaint in california. fall ballard was her lawyer here in california. you have until the age of 26 to initiate civil suit. and she was, i believe she was 28 years old. she was just a couple years after that point in time. so chance he tried to get the law changed . it started with a meeting right down the street, gmc and i went down to the politicians office, not knowing him,

him not knowing us. he was compassionate. we had a connection with him, and he supported a bill that changed the statute, limitations age from 26 to 40, and it was called s b 131 on may 7th, 2013 states sen, jim beale, jesse thompson and other abuse survivors, including former gymnast testified in front of the california state senate shanty thompson and live currently have an ongoing litigation against usa swimming my coach dead last me for many, many years. and i am in support of sb 131 as well. thank you. and the witnesses and support. so they came to the hearing supporting the bill, extending the statute, limitations the hall clubs here, k from all over the place to come to this meeting. because they don't have justice . they just want justice. they're also on the front row, holding their hands together like they do an olympics. they all bill bounced to one

another. supporting the woman that was up justified. i was 8 or 9 years old. the 1st time i felt dred, she had a really hard time getting up there and speaking very difficult to tell her story mixture. very emotional. yeah. does. but the bill was blocked. 5 months later, jerry brown, the governor of california, vetoed it. it was then that the victims learned that there had been frantic lobbying behind the scenes. opponents of the bill included the catholic church and representatives of usa swimming political terms. jean urban, i represent usa swimming. we represent over 300000 swimmers and 10000 swim clubs. we are opposed to the bill. thank you. swimming in the catholic church and lots of organizations who have trouble histories with sexual abuse. got

together and said we cannot have the statute limitations opened up. it would be very, very closely to us. we're talking a law that if passed would have resulted in billions of dollars of damages paid by entities like usa swimming and the catholic church. a man who spoke on behalf of usaa winning works for the lobbying firm, nielsen and merck zimmer. the federation paid the firm $90000.00 to get the bill blocked in. i was amazed to see usa swimming, put its coaches in the same place as the church, quitting clergy who had abused children. those 2 things being brought together were horrified and leave me speechless sometimes because i don't understand how you can silence and sweep sex abuse under the rug for so many decades and have this culture allowed and ok. i and it's all about money, money,

and metals are at the beginning of 2020 usa. swimming was the subject of to f. b, i investigations, a tax investigation and an investigation by congress. along with it's chairman, tim henchey, the chairs of the gymnastics, volleyball, weight, lifting, skating. ty, quando, and bob's flood federations are being called to account some risk prison sentences, their organizations could be disbanded. if the governing bodies of sports take no action to protect their athletes, can governments themselves step in ah, the olympic movement was founded in $1894.00,

it is the top of the sporting pyramid above the international and national federations. before yearly summer olympic games are the most important event in international sport. some 11000 athletes from 206 countries take part in them. and they are watched by nearly 4000000000 television viewers. awe from its head office and low, san in switzerland. the international olympic committee alternately organized as the summer and winter olympic gains and administers receipts which are considerable . the revenues for the 20162018 games alone came to $5700000000.00. the i o c also has a duty to defend the olympic values and ensure that they are upheld by all the sporting federations that take part in the games. as a lawyer who specializes in international sports law. john christoph le google. it is well versed in the olympic values. respect for the athlete features in the

olympic charter. bobby, suppose you fall on to laura and be smart of inaudible to window g. lucille robert drawer, a beast, it will. beth was poor. sell this. you're the rope or more ammonia, the remaining 2 overdue poor war means we'll shoot the buzz shriek shows. lucas. l . v. legend human bhaskar, sickly little gl sheeley. go. luthey. luthey called for his music. sure no cost, but as for she knew please, i really do men or what concrete steps as the i o. c taken. during the olympics, a sexual abuse counselor is available for athletes to speak to you. apart from that, the i osi makes awareness raising videos. everyone involved in sports must say no to sexual harassment and abuse in one voice and issue declarations condemning sexual abuse. its most substantial publication dates from november 2017. it is

a 60 page manual designed to help sporting federations and national olympic committees introduce procedures to protect athletes containing detailed advice about how to help victims and educate athletes and those in charge of them about sexual abuse. how do you see if it has been correctly implemented? when we talked to them, we talked all the international federations very am. very often we conduct surveys because they're not doing this alone. we're helping them. there are people go on the field and version from us from show me what you do in one and how no, i mean it's more friendly than that. we're working together with them. we're in contact with daily, with federations and national and be committees. is there a sanction that can be applied to them if they don't implement those measures? our concept of that is we get much better results if we work with these people and

encourage them. and that they understood and the problem in their context. so we haven't needed to get to that kind of level of deciding whether to sanction so far . they've been very collaborative and we're getting ahead with convincing and helping the sports organizations to have these safeguarding rules in place. so i don't, sir, when you see young do it when they do what they are doing, it yield, you're talking about something that's not happening. like for instance, residential mastic. thank you very much soon. okay, thank you. you rephrase friends with oh, wow. all the i o c does is make recommendations, isn't there some way it could impose changes which you will be duffy or well do away level she, me, david, you don't, they'd be easy room. oh, that bar i,

peggy legal, senior on that bus. you read a chevy to double near don't sure. book manase of what bruce knew by his fear of whose outlet was olympia? cisco pharisee you are. what y'all de la? portia will keep up. that is all. go go. she have hulu bushnell, national medic do above while you dollars for it could by year or so. does it deal as complete with more a didn't do the to fishing disbelieve it is. believe they of are all much eligible to sure that michigan for the moment the i o. c relies on sporting federations willingness to do what is needed as do governments in many countries, if change doesn't come from governments or sporting institutions, where might it come from? mm. so even ah, it's a measure that has to be implemented in every club,

like the ban on unnecessary or contact and vetting the criminal records of people who will be in charge of children in a professional or voluntary capacity and rules that adults and children should be kept separate during travel and in showers for the last 3 years, paul stewart has devoted himself entirely to combating the problem of sexual abuse in sport. that is what he is doing here in the suburbs of manchester. mm. it covers assistant carson spy, vega owned international tim spots, opting me and us, i noticed a vague luba, lisa, leanin from tyler cassette sir, and quick to forgotten, took in or dol above him, smokers. kaiten took ian. dan lovek is desperate boston to advocate to qualify. he and to lindsey, busy,

and try not to swin faucets in it and find to schwend. you mentioned diamonds, who, when gussy more tish names are going to have lucy virginia. however, i will respond naval foul salt cursor avenue than by your lad distribute as shonda to dante dirt. duchess mine admissible. i've said neptune always use a no canario. policies and procedures are very, very important. but if we're really serious about keeping all children safe from sexual violence than we need some serious changes in the way that we think about the way we do school. mm. mm ah

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