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huffing as well, because again, they are not used to these cold weather's, they are, many of them have no idea how to prepare how to dress for a weather, even as cold, as you know, 0 degrees celsius. so many of them, maybe you've noticed, they are dressed in very light overcoats and, and they aren't much about, you know, freezing temperatures. they can't do much about freezing temperatures. yesterday. air was filled with drizzle. so, and this is the sort of drizzle you simply can't get away from so, so everything will get soaked eventually this, the, you know, these are dying clearly. it really difficult time. i get out of the overcoat bad weather tenants. people are hungry. mothers are worried about their young children who are cold and, and i'm probably stream the angry as well. the r t international is there on location. i've seen some of the russian press agencies there as well, but i'm not seeing any western press. i hope i'm wrong. have you seen any other journalists from the western press in location there, along the border? i have to say, i have to say yes because i yes,
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the bbc was here. the cnn was here. al jazeera has been working, it has been reporting here as well, but you can see people are really optimistic. do you guys speak english? well, but if you can, you make a comment, can you? so how do you, how do you feel that what, how do you feel what's to, what's your emotion? like, are you afraid or you scan and know for i was scheduled for? will it be lot of through the fire? the dog in fact that i'm scared. i am 45, reducing the immigrant. i excuse me. i want to go to ohio or no, no i. i only have i'm, i'm pupil. i'm not done. i one life. so where do you want to go? germany? no problem. if the german is old above. what i'm one no, no john one is so you want to go to europe. yeah. so do you have jeff relatives that you have family? there are no for roof?
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no family. no. okay, thank you. thank you so much so vile. it seems like every single person has their own story and at the same time, they are all very, very similar. they want to go to europe southern, well, they choose germany for others. it doesn't matter. they just want to go that because many, many of the people who i've talked to, i asked this question like, why do you think they should let you in? do they really owe you anything? and a lot of people who have come from a rock, they've been telling me that yes, they do feel that europe and even poland owes them this, their, that it owes them asylum. and the way they reason it, their reasoning they put behind it, is that at a certain point, like one day, many, many years ago, europe decided to intervene and do well bring down the are the government of saddam hussein and iraq. and at that point, they tell me their country plunged into an endless descent of violence, of cares, of terrorism. and basically their homes were destroyed. a lot of people told me how
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they don't have no running water. they don't have electricity at home. and so it kind of makes sense for them right here because the be conditions in terms of, you know, water and electricity seemed to be not that much, not that different compared to what they had at home in the camp. i mean here on the border. so they feel that, that, that, that, the, the west that the, that europe owes them this for the life that they destroyed with all the bombs that, that were dropped on their homes. and all the terrorist powers that were unleashed by the lawlessness that engulfed the country following the r u. s. lead intervention because poland, for instance, had about poland had a whole region in iraq under its control that you know, natal nature gave to the polish military. well, you know, to operate where to operate and to and well to, to conduct operations there. so this is what they're telling me. i'm excuse me. says you speak english. yes. there. so we have her. we have another person here who can share his thoughts on there. so tell me,
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tell me how you feel right now. the situation now is literally different, like, like the other week before, does the heart now is getting colder and colder is getting rough on us. so people want to go to europe or germany, or those you european countries, which they are accepting them. okay. we don't do any violence salvage us seeking us allen. people who are on from their homes because of what they're afraid afraid of their lives, their children, their lives, their moms, something is wrong. a lot of them, no one run from anything. if you are happy at your home, if you relax why you're running right and by the police borders, they don't all been. but already germany accepted that the accepting the seeking asylum of these earth refugees, right? though they don't let us going. how do you feel about the situation here, like right now where we standing right now, this little red freight and actually, you know, is getting call and you are in between 2 big military's soldiers like anything can
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happen. sometimes like shooting happened before, no water and was ablaze, and miller is don't give any supplies anymore. they're c to as last name. say like if you guys want to cross, you can cross, we opened the borders but no more supplies. okay, so, so are you afraid? of course. what are you ready? what are you ready to do? what's your, what's your plan here? because right now it seems a lot of people they came in here. they sat down and you're sitting down. so the polish side is not letting you in, there's a barbed wire fence on the back, russian side of the border. but anyway, this is not a place where you want to be, you want to move forward. so would you. oh and let me just, i just, i will get back to you that we can see a polish military helicopter over there. it fit, it's flying really, really low. this is something that has been, has happened before here, actually as well on the 1st couple of days there were trying to kind of scare scare the people off with this thing and to, well, maybe put out the fire that there were just starting to light up so there's all
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sorts of military on the border here. you know, there's water cannon, there's military police, there's military vehicles now we have aircraft, you know, if these military helicopters are circling around, you know, hovering above us. you know, at least monitoring the situation may be checking out the scale under, but it is still fight is staying on the poll side of the border. so i'll excuse me . i if i may just if i may just get back to you and get back to my question. so what's your plan here since now? since now you're in no man's land. honda, nobody wants to let you know and you know, says we're on the border and depends on the united nation. ruth, united nation, rural says what? every one can seek asylum under their roof, but it's split fees like polish government. don't go by the rules anymore. okay, thank you so much sir. i so essentially, now there were thousands of people here,
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the migrant camp over there. it's so well, there's no way of telling for sure, but my bet would be on the fact that it is completely empty now, or maybe a few families remain there about to sit as it is completely empty. it wasn't like that yesterday when we filmed there. so i just wanted to show you this report that i put together today to show you what it was like to live under the conditions that these people faced here yesterday. have a look. it's a place stuck in limbo, the migrant camp on the border of bella ross and literally a few meters away already is poland is the e u. the dream of every single person has come here, but well, the line of military police and a very impressive barbed wire fence, they send a very unequivocal message. the situation here is an absolute stalemate. as weather keeps getting worse, the air here is wet with drizzled. even overcoats eventually end up soaked. thousands of people around us lie on bare ground as the witness slowly but surely
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turns it into mud. well some people they try to prepare for the posh conditions, every one is facing here, right now. they brought tents like these, which to protect them from the forces of nature. but these up summer tents. they are good enough for freezing temperatures and most here, they don't even have that. they have to live in makeshift huts like these made of pine branches or like these. yes, people here resting right now and the weather is going to get even worse. it's going to start to snow. it will be very muddy. so it's unclear as to how long this will they will be able to survive out here in the cold cigarettes. are the main currency here. whoever has a pack is a rich man. whoever has a carting is in the one percent. many refused to talk to us unless bribed, but some offer hospitality for free. we say sorry to all european union. yeah, we wanna save the kids life to go now. we are here is there is no protection. if
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the rent straight down comes to us, nothing to establish no, nothing to stop the rain. there's a kid slip in on the woods. he's here. it was sitting next to the via and he was fill of sleep. ah, well right now the main challenge of course is to stay warm so you can see the amount of commotion, anything that can be shopped into firewood is causing people. here are borderline scuffling for it. but they know that if anybody doesn't want to play by the rules, doesn't want to play fair. if any fight was to break out, the bell, russian border patrol will be very quick to intervene. oregon caravans of humanitarian trucks, to deliver supplies to the camp every day. in total, more than 18 tons of aid have been provided by the been a russian government. on top of that, the local branch of the red cross and unions have also been sizable. each shipping
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in, i don't know how long this situation will last, but no matter how long people end up staying here. even if there are only a few of them, we will provide them with the essentials for life. we set up tense, large heated tense where people can eat, especially women and children, and pregnant women. we are certain, all the women and children have been fed. additionally, we've provided grocery sets for the families and bottled water was brought in daily . we've also brought warm clothes and blankets, plus personal hygiene products like nappies and powdered milk for the children. all this is making migrants life easier for sure, but it fails to solve the weather issue. yet whoever i talk to, no one considers turning around and heading back home an option. yes ma'am. badge never made that come in iraq. my husband couldn't get a job and we had no income. now we have to wait, but we don't know how long for i worry not for myself, but for my children. if it gets too cold, we'll need to make
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a decision. but i'd rather die here than go back to rock. how many days will have to pass for people to well say we've had enough, we're going in. if to be honest, maybe one day to day 3 days at you know, i can exactly time it because after night snow people will go to morrow. 120 percent. if we know we lose in our life, we will go, doesn't matter, let they kill us it out. that's the end of it. you know, if we die in call, oh we die. sure. again, what's that different? there's still a lot of hope here. the germany will agree to take these people in and that poland will provide safe passage. but as politicians bricker on time is against them. i'm a gosh, darn are reporting from the brother roast border. archie. yeah, that other package from you ego really illustrating what a tough go it's been for all of these people that are extensions, essentially just trying to find new lives for for themselves in europe and,
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and the people you've spoken to, they've said it doesn't matter if it's germany, they just want to go to europe, as, as i said, just almost anywhere in europe, one of the men, one of the migrant menu spoke. you said that he's been journeying for 45 days until today. when he finally got to the bella rose poland border and there i know i understand the polish or air force or the military have these helicopters are flying over there. it would look really bad. frankly, we will be a p r crisis. if the polish military were in some way to get violent with these migrants, i know in the past 48 hours a tear gas has been used, but more or less as ultimately been that the worst of it. i understand that there have been bella, russian humanitarian teams will be helping the migrants there. give them food, water, tens, clothing, wood, to burn as well. is there any help? 4th, coming from the polish side. as far as you can tell, eager. absolutely not, not of 0, they haven't been helping whatsoever. and i have to speak louder now because the
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helicopter that you talked about that we showed you earlier. it is hovering right above us. in fact, i can see the tail of it and it is maybe 30 meters above the ground. so it is flying really, really low. so, and we're speaking, speaking about the help they're getting from the poll and wish you, they are not are in fact it has been quite, you know, are comical in a very brutal sense of way. because every single time, all these people living on the border, they could actually see polish supplied trucks, bring food, bring water rations to the polish soldiers to the polish military police, which are well which they distributed of themselves and themselves. i was give bernard to, to my grants, it was only the bell russian side, the unions and the red cross, the local branch of it that we're trying to help her out here. her. so indeed, the situation here, again, it is,
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it is springer is still hovering above us. we by the way, moved a little better, moved our position. but here we can actually see if we, because basically there's a lot of people behind me, but over there. but over there, if we could just band the camera a little bit, you can see people still coming is still approaching the border. and now since there's a, there's no room for them left on this little as valid as valid are you know, patch. so if my, if my camera man, could you see i show the helicopter, can we, can we see it like, because it is really low, i mean, we were gonna try and move a little bit closer. can we, can we, in a 2nd, we need, we need to get the camera and start moving. so our just show you maybe you maybe move into the crowd and a little move into the crowd and talk to them a little bit. so hopefully, hopefully we'll, we'll be able to do that in the near future. and, and so yeah, i think we are ready to, to start to start moving, you know,
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just to show you just to show you so that you can see everything. because there's a lot of people sitting on the ground here as well. i mean, i do apologize is the if the pictures are a little bit shaky, but now you can clearly see this thing and how low it is. so, so far again, everybody is staying put both the, both the refugees, the of the, the polish border patrol or the military police. and well, all the heavy equipment. they have moved a water cannon. i have to tell you they have moved it to the center and it so well, it's a logical thing to do because this way it has the best angle to reach every the site, every flank of the crowd. so this could seem like an indication that they might, that they are prepared to use it at a certain point, you know, to spray all these people with water. frankly, i do not want to be on the receiving end of that thing, especially in a weather that we have here right now. because especially with the well, you know,
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with a pandemic going on in going on in the, in the whole world. i'm getting sprayed with cold water one, it is close to a freezer to freezing temperatures. it is, it is a direct way to pneumonia and a very serious health conditions. especially if you do not have roof over your head . if you do not have central heating, if you do not have enough warm blankets, if your lives depend on a fire and on the, on the all the firewood that you can scavenge around. but what's interesting, nobody, nobody, nobody's leading, even these people that are moving away from the border, they're merely regrouping and going elsewhere simply because it is so packed with people behind me that well, it is difficult to move around a, it is partly why we decided to change our position as well. so again, more and more people are more people are moving in. but it is it a stalemate and it is a game over who blinks fast? will it be the polish police?
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who will say just we've had enough and they will start dispersing the crowd and kind of forcing them way back on to the garage and side of the board. again, we have no idea what, what the battle russian military police will do. but the border seems to be closed shut from what i can see are from why they can see over there. and in fact, let me just pan, let me just move and pan over that and, and, and have a look at the. so let me just show you maybe a bit of a zoom in, so maybe a 100 meters away from here. hopefully you can see if we zoom in, there's a similar chord, and it's just not mander. it's not man nearly as heavily as are the polish, as the polish or you know, border, but a, but a russians, they have sealed their border as well. and there are, there are, you know, there is border control, people standing there where the shields and with in full riot gear from what i can see from over here. so there's no way back. there's no way back for the people
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sitting. yeah. and there's no way forward as well. so really it's difficult to add anything to this other than it's a game of hobbling 1st and who will make a move. oh, actually i think i can hear the polish side using you know, announcing very very loudly using our mouthpieces and loud speakers. ah, this is something they've been doing. let's just solid. disclose this move back. so i can hear. not really, and i'm quite sure it's in english or i can't make out the words, maybe, maybe it, it but, but it would make nice for them to announce anything in their native language. but basically they're using a loud speakers and to thwart to basically discourage anybody from trying anything from, you know, trying to breach the border. this is something that they've been doing that they've been doing throughout, throughout this whole thing. in fact, i asked, given us journalists who were working here on the border, we were getting text messages from our, from a polish number's saying,
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and those were directed at, you know, those were aimed at the migrants who have been using their phones here. those messages have been saying, basically, do not trust the bell russian border. police. poland will not let you when poland will not provide you say a safe passage. go home. this is almost a direct quote. i mean, the i myself got 2 of these messages yesterday. well we, we aren't crossing the border, we are eager to enlighten us. they're getting messages on a mobile phones not to basically turn around, grab your things, and head back home. and as you and we were speaking earlier, one of the micro menus for to this poor man who had been on luke or he's been walking on foot for 45 days apparently. so, you know, you've got these women and children, the, all these families, hundreds about thousands there. and this is quote, unquote, a humanitarian crisis. right now, eager. i mean, are there any rushed areas there for absolutely sounds crazy to ask that. but i know that the beller russian side, they set up some warm tents where people could find shelter with people,
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actually eat and get a warm cup of tea. where you are now right along the polish board, are the poll of the poles, helping other the toilets. for example, any toilets for these people, any, any sandwiches being handed out there along the border where you are now. absolutely nothing but 1st to address what you said about the text message. indeed i for i in fact have it in my hand. let me quote you this poll under won't let my grants pass to germany. it will protect it's border. don't get fooled. don't try to take any action fact i got 2 of those. i'm not sure if you can see, but this is, this is, these are the text messages that i got yesterday on my phone. the same messages that well, i'm pretty sure pretty much every single person here got as well and has been getting 4 days for as long as they've been staying here. i'm, i'm pretty confident that the message that they have, you know, played through the loudspeakers here. it was along the very same lines as for,
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you know, convenience, i saw, you know, so things like toilets and, you know, sandwiches. it all, it all was there in the camp except for the toilets. maybe because the campers in the middle of the forest. so there was one cabin, but you know, it, one cabin for what thousands of people you. well, this is not serious. so they had to, well, they had to use the nearby forest to do was to do their business. i asked for, you know, food and blankets in warm clothes, even things like who, you know, pampers are, you know, diapers are for, for the smallest of kids. all of that they could get in the camp, which is i would say about 800 meters away from here. so they have not moved that far away. but this is the a border checkpoint. i mean, if you look around me, this is what with this is what trucks and you know, people are like, ordinary people alike would used to cross from one country to another, to another, to cross from poland to valero sandra, the other way around. ah, this checkpoint has been closed for quite a while. now. the reason of course,
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the migrant crisis on the border here. but the, the, these people, they have decided to use it anyway because for them it look easy and look more doable than trying to bridge a 22 and a half me to a barbed wire fence. mar, manned by military police and all sorts of heavy, heavy equipment on the other side on the polish side. but while they came here, only to find out that while the fence is twice half as large what half a stool. well, the military presence is tenfold, he. i have to say, i say a week i hear can still hear him out of one line. yeah, we can sorry to jump in there. maybe we can still hear the helicopter or more than one perhaps behind you there. monitoring the situation on the longer polish about a russian border. i wanted to ask you quickly, eager, while i still have you lived up from that very touchy location, the u. k. media, the u. k. media has been saying that this migrant crisis is old putin's fault. is
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that the general consensus among the migrants that you've spoken to while we didn't talk politics much with them. i mean, if anything political came up, it was about how the, your, how germany, how europe the you owe them shelter for, you know, turning on, turning their country into a hot mess. this is their point of view. again, i have to stress that. but there has been a consensus on what you said that it was of futons making in the west, especially in poland. in fact, a, just a couple of hours ago, maybe an hour ago, the polish vice president called on more sanctions and, or called on more sanctions against, you know, against russia and bella roost blaming the blaming. this whole thing on vladimir putin are kinda, you know, emitting the fact that this crisis is happening on the territory of 2 nations. we shall both, you know, will not russia. this is barbara rowse. poland is all over there. bella rose is an
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ally of russia, but well, it has an independent government. i'd has its own president. it may be to say, i mean that it makes its own decisions. so we can here, we can hear some announcements made over the, over the loudspeakers again. maybe let's try and have a listen he pay even if they want everybody to, to you know, to me and do well to he and to listen to them they should use aloud a speaker that i tell you that, oh so indeed, going back to what i was talking about indeed, ah, some people said, well, there was a different degree to know to the strength of the accusations and the harshness of statements made by officials in europe. poland has been among the most harsh ones in blaming russia for this. vladimir putin on the other hand, and i mean, it would be lovely if we could hear it from himself because we do have
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a sound bite of him. i hopefully we can play it sometime or sometime soon. but basically about latimer poodle has said that, well, that the, the, that europe created this migrant crisis that the russia did not play, does not play any role here. that russia is ready to help. here the russia is ready to talk to every side involved. but i mean, brush is not one of those sites. i, in fact, a russia all along russia has been saying that, well, all these people, they have come here and now they are come to bella bruce and they want to get into poland. so it's the leader of bella roost, whose name is alexander lucas. shinkel has to talk to the leader of poland. and well, they have duke it out themselves, but all they have been doing so far is bickering on. i mean, we do have our excuse me, says you have her, do you speak english? okay. her, so you never know until you ask, i guess. so vladimir putin has been saying and of russia, russia's foreign ministry as well. that europe and bella roost,
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they have to come to a concert and that russia is ready to help out how well it basically, whatever it is in its power mosque was ready to difficult. it's difficult to get a clear picture exactly that i have just, i had stories just going to jumping out. i'm so sorry for jumping it, but it is difficult to get a clear picture because certain media outlets say one thing, but your there you're there on the beller roost. poland border, you've seen bella russians, humanitarian teams, handing out aid to these people. and yet, some of the press will blame bella roost for all of this mess. i mean, it's worth noting, and i don't really like going down this way frankly, but, but it's better, bruce nor russia, they never invaded iraq. they never invaded afghanistan. they didn't invade syria, and although we've got a lot of current, iraq is now in the mix there. these are people coming from war torn nations and now they find themselves in the middle of a humanitarian crisis. and where are the powers that be now? where is their health, the humanitarian, the beacon of democracy? where's the help for these women and children here?
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i'd love to see it. well, exactly, so far all the help has been coming from the bell russian side. well, basically the argument that the, that the other side is making that poland is making, for example, is it accuses, or the bell russian government or allowing this many people are on its soil by basically from what we know. there are no illegals here. there are no illegal migrants here from the bell. a russian point of view, because these people, they have a better russian visa. at least this is what they're telling me. and this is what the information has been like right now, who they are, that this is what the information that we have. in fact, we've heard reports of them paying thousands of dollars to get here. you know, all the transportation costs visa costs and so on. so from the bell russian standpoint, or they have visas, they have every right to be on their parents or otherwise they, they beat, it will be deported according to the information that we have again,
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and on the other side is saying, well, you shouldn't have, you shouldn't have allowed so many clear refugees, board the board, the plains, but the refugees, they do not want to stain. bella rush, they did not come v intending to make their, you know, to make their life here. they do not want to stay in poland, be that they want to move on and are some, you know, singled out germany. others have been saying that, well, we did, doesn't really matter. we will go wherever, because we don't have any place. we don't have any place to live really so, so we don't have, we don't have a place to call home bead iraq or syria or molly or, you know, any, any other nation that is are represented here. so, so they are staying here. it seems that they are regrouping and seems a lot of people are moving away away from our, from the very for, from the border from the line of policeman. and they're a kinder dispersing to the side. some people have taking,
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taking their children. i mean, i, let's so let's try and move and move around. and just to show you what's going on and how the situation here has changed. because over here you can see people with people with children on the grass. well, it's, it's while it's so it's better if anything, it's better than sitting here on concrete. so again, a lot of people over there, the helicopter, the cali copy here hasn't gone, hasn't gone anywhere. if anything, it is flying even lower. maybe it is. maybe it is the maybe it is landing on the polish side of the border. ok let's, let's move on and see what's going on. what's going on over there on the, on the other, on the other flank. so yeah, you can see a lot of people kindly know seething through the crowd, the main crowd that's over there. and it's just going to continue. probably just going to continue. really good. it's just, it's just gonna continue now because you've got hundreds, if not thousands of people that have now poured into this. as you,
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as you described as a, as a whole necked area. you've got all these people squeezed in. the question is, how are you going to squeeze them out? now as i understand that word, direct flights, they would direct flights from iraq and syria and afghan hassan that was going to mince all those direct flights, have now been cancelled. so one might imagine perhaps the numbers that you have around you now perhaps will stabilize. but the question is, with all these people squeezed in, where are you going to squeeze him out to off to this one might expect the polar will have no choice but to bring in some military transport buses and start funneling the people out and start spreading them to eastern europe and states which are going to be willing to take them have any countries eager already expressed a willingness to take in some of these people. there is a couple of cities in germany who have said that they are ready to accommodate some of the migrants and help them out. but speaking about the speaking about the.

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