ah, i'm as soon as any watching going on the ground coming up with a show we speak to the president of palau, a cop 26 island nation in danger of paying the ultimate price for inviting the u. s . military to build base is that, that alone, the impact of nature, nation, military, fossil fuel emissions contributing to the climate emergency. and we talked to the award winning pioneer behind m r n. a vaccines that are saving millions around the world is the world health organization. once europe, it is yet again, the epicenter, the global corona virus pandemic. all this, i'm all coming up in today's going underground, but 1st after she jin paying and jo biden's monday night virtual cool for the taunt . one nation caught between them as a paradise island in the pacific. existentially threatened by the climate emergency, the president of the republic of palazzo and alice whipped junior, joins me now from that bank. allow,

after claiming that wrong decisions at cop $26.00 in glasgow could equate to bombing the country. mr. president, thanks so much for joining us from palau, so you might as well bomb us is what you said at cop 26 in glasgow. jew believe it's $2.00 centigrade or $1.00 centigrade. what. what is the outcome from gov? 26, according to you. well, at the end, which is it is disappointing. that we're still above 1.5. you know, to save the islands, to save the culture, to save the language, we need to be below $1.00. and i say that because we live the reality. we see the tides every day and they're rising, they're overrun our docs, they're into our homes. they're into our taurus ones where people who grow their food. so we see the threat from the high temperatures,

destroying our cold reefs at the same time killing our jelly, fish, which are a private attraction for below and, and we also see the fish. now they produce by 2100 on the current track when lose 40 percent of our or fish population. so these are just part of what we are experienced already. and if we're on the current track, the reason i said you might, as obamacare is the continuous torture that we're going to be experiencing from now till then, which also threaten our borders and are, are, are easy because then there will be a debate on, well, no, in denisia boundary needs to move honor and 50 miles because now those i was don't exist anymore. you know that's, that's the real reality that we face and, and we want the people of the world to understand that it's real. it's a challenge and we need all work together to solve these problems. so i know that

from comp, you know, we heard commitments. oh, for funding. when we heard some of the things that they're doing, but i still say it's not enough, but at least there is some progress when you go back. what was the reaction from a residence in palau to the fact that the loss and damage element of the so called, called 26 pact wasn't mentioned? you said 4 trillion was needed. that's a trillion trip. less than traded in foreign exchange today. what was the reaction there? the loss or damage just wasn't in that pack, is it's called unsigned. i hear by boris johnson and others. yes sir. you know the world bank, that's that number we got from the world bank. and the world bank has declared that that's the amount that is needed and you know what,

we wanna give our people as hope. and when the world, you know together doesn't give home. and it's about, you know, this country over that country. i don't think that's, that's fair and we need to be fair. we need to be responsible to every citizen of the world. and that's really why comp, in the united nations are there is to protect every citizen the world. not just to large and big countries, but also the small countries of the world. what did the, the biden administration tell you? because it, you know, i mean, arguably your lucky in some places because when typhoon sir, a guy destroyed so much of your island. unusually because you don't know normally have died wounds, the americans gave money to you. a lot of money proportionally, per capita. wow. they gave us some, it was actually, i was not just united states through their usa. i the program. it was also australia,

new zealand. our friends from the federated states and micronesia in japan, in taiwan. so was, was a mix of countries. they came out to help and they said, you know, through red cross, blue care kids and all those kinds of things to help people get back on their feet . but the reality is to build new homes, are built homes that are strong enough to withstand the storms. that's where the real challenge lies and, and unfortunately, is the people that are the most vulnerable. the weakest are the ones that sell for the most, you know from this because they, it's hard for them to rebuild and it's hard for them to build structures. they can really withstand the stronger ones that we now are faced with. of course, missing from call was the emissions fossil fuel emissions that come from the military. as you know, the pentagon reputedly larger polluted than a 140 countries combined. why have you asked for military, for military bases in palau?

i already know, you know, a 3rd, maybe the country is u. s. military. why have you asked for more military base is given the fossil fuel emissions. because of the pentagon, hello and source, we believe that the presence is deterrence, we believe in peace and security and freedom and democracy. and one of the challenges that we have is, are you and people not respecting our, our borders. so having the military presence in follow helps on our protection of our insecurity of our borders. i think the other advantage that we have with the military is economic benefit, of course, having military transit in and out. i also provide some boost to the economy. we don't have a military base here, per se, but they come here to conduct exercises when the ships visit. of course, people come to shores of that provides economic activity, which is important for our small economy. so it's about diversifying our economy,

but you're right there military just like big corporations and, and, and countries like we have to all do our part in reducing our emissions. so i definitely agree with you that we need to encourage the military to take, do it's part and finding ways that their clients can be, go to 0 carbon and their ships and, and their, all their operations move in that direction. because you are you from a military family or your father and us army medical born in maryland, who is the enemy? you said protecting the board is from which country. i mean, if you're going to say china a half your g d p comes from tourism. obviously, and that's a lot of chinese dr. well, with that illegal fishing goes from china from vietnam, from the philippines. and that those are the ones that are frequent and even indonesia. so but surely, nuclear submarines, nuclear submarines and i'm going to protect you from fishing vessels. i mean the,

this is serious military over there. you have. they were training their 200 people . first type of 40 is more us strike forces. they're the 7th fleet. well, there and right, well, yeah, there, there is no question that if you see the activity on the western side of the philippines and activity in the south china sea are, you know, i think the protection of borders and say, you know, these are the rule of the law and rule of the center laws of the see that we should follow. we also have concerns because we've seen activities of vessels surveying and naming ridges in our area. there are from chinese and that is, that is a concern to us in our security and our, our easy and our claims to our extended continental shelf and so forth. so, you know, you're correct we, we expect all countries,

the world respect boundaries and respect the rights of nations and protection of their there where they're there borders and having a partner that respects, that is important. i mean, you have the same time history, mister president, in your country of environmentalism being the 1st country in the world to have a nuclear free constitution. is that torn up now? is joe biden, sending nuclear submarines to your boards right now? well yeah, you have a good point there, you know, hello. it was hard for hello to accept the compact. we voted for 7 times and we were because one of the major provisions was we did not want to nuclear into below, you know, we, we suffered in world war 2. and we, there, we were concerned about the military presence and asked that would become a situation that we would have to repeat again. and i know those were definitely

concerns for the people, but ultimately they can, you know, we basically were forced, we had no choice into accepting the deal that was put on the table. and i think that's ok. you know, for economic reasons, this is where a plow is today. and i think it's important is when we're partners, we got to develop a country not only for secure security wise but economically to make it stable, diversify its economy. to look for ways that i can develop and be strong. and i think that's one of the areas that the partnership with united states has been lacking and needs needs to improve because you're correct. we have the vessels, we have the planes coming in. but the economic side is where we really need improve responsibility when it comes to global issues, whether it's climate change and the impacts of those. so be it, as you say, it is better off the many islands in that region. you know, we spoke to the president of bolivia who passed through london from cope. you was

talking about the importance of the sea of 26. and he actually told us about an assassination attempt by rules is related to washington. your, his, your country's history has a history of a reputed assassinations linked to the united states. if you were to, if you were to ally with china simultaneously with di one, somehow, would you be afraid of your life? you know, we're a super peaceful country. we want to be friends with everyone, but we also believe that no one should tell us that we cannot be somebody's friends . and i think that's where the, where people ask us, why aren't you in line with china and we are, our response is always been. it's really up to the chinese to accept this is their friends, it's taiwan that they want us to relinquish our relationship with them. you know, that's what we believe that all people, all nation should be part of the world and they should be accepted. and we should

work toward peace and freedom and, and security is an important part of making sure that there is peace in the world. and that's why we have these partnerships and these alliances. and we want to continue to promote that. we haven't know, killed the 1st president of allow or maybe the 2nd as well. no, well, there was an investigation and there were there were people prosecuted and went to jail for the assassination. so we, we know who committed the crime was, was it was internal. i mean it was pull owens the did it and they were prosecutor now who was the i know who i'm the buck stops with them. on the 2nd president, we understand that it was a, was, there was no further investigation. i think it was rule that a time that it was unfortunately taken his own life. but there's also rumors that

possibly that really wasn't the case. but the investigation ended with that at the time. and i don't go any further investigation. of course there's rumors that maybe there was more involved, but we don't, we don't have any evidence in any further investigation because unfortunately the investigators at the time was the f b i. right. so that's, that's what we have as our basis for the conclusions that below came up with. well, we hope to interview you in palau next year. we'll mess emotions, kara, your international or shy? look, thank you so much, mr. president. thank you. after the break and we ask the award winning biochemist, who, by any of them are in a vaccines how discovery has saved millions of lives as the 4th wave of corona virus. it's your of all of them all coming up about 2 of going undergrad,

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welcome back your of his back at the epicenter of the groan of our span, demik, according to the world health organization, with cases in germany said to be rising alarmingly, as its health minister calls it, the pandemic of the unvaccinated will join me, never minds. his professor, captain carrico, the internationally renowned an award winning senior vice president of biotech who held pioneer research behind the m. r. n. a technology used in the cove in 1000 vaccines that have saved millions of lives. can i just say, kate, that thanks so much for what you've done to help save millions of people and maybe the going under guarantee that makes this program just take us back to the rejections and why you think corporations, corporation funded universities thought it was too far fetched that you could take clips of dna and vaccinate them, and humans grew up. inflammation from,

from these bits of messenger r n a vaccine. yes, thank you. me here. so i wasn't wanting to get it any vaccine. i was wanting to give her a message that i need for therapy to treat to. so can different kinds of diseases. and when, when my colleague u. s. one we realized and on a i am making this tube and we tested out he was in from our 30. that was the reason we tried to develop, not even when jenny nanine from 130 on end of but we didn't know that he could be such a could be made. no transaction is the you know, the application i submitted for my grad, you know, actually in the, is not the university is paying somebody in the united states in my boss what you have to apply for funding a grant and a grant to spain your salary. so i try to, for 2 years, every month i submitted

a grant, i didn't get any and later i submitted more much because i was not on beach that i was the modem from my position, but i stayed on and i keep doing. and i was working at the, there in 21 years and always, and on a and did not matter that somebody else paid my center or somebody else could get grand. or i wrote a grant and somebody i submitted and i was supported. so it was, it, we thought the problem, your supply and they had organizational elements in organizing all these ideas of experimentation. i mean, is it true that used hungarian pickle jars at one point? actually each and my husband, the doors or some, some tools and equipment, then he helped me and you know, took fixing because people, usually when they had something broken, they left out in the hallway for trash and i picked up you know, to come and my husband and i could use it, i mean he had to go back to hungary,

at one point you became quite ill. i mean, why do you think the ground? so people giving up the grunts thought it was far fetched, where they convinced that the rejection would continue. because so many of experiments didn't work. she leaves actually more paper, isn't about me, why and the system to try to understand that it might be some, some ideas for fresh. that's why you don't get the funding and then get some answers. maybe those who are making decision, those who, what are the at the grant. and then they are more likely to find something closer to what they are the week and not something which is got away from those things because they have like 12 grand to make a decision. and they can con, maybe one and then easier to say, you know, know to something is too weird then to say yes to something similar. what a i for me. and that's what maybe one that is a dna and bio mass tours. and those are more stable,

more ro, date was 8, and i was, you know, less on less for name was me, and a short period of time. of course, right now we are in a church a the, the are in a, is just a clip of that huge dna chain discovered, of course, here, but you said you were thinking of it as the applications for people with strokes or cancer and so on. someone from outside this whole academic scholarly research might say, how is it that the advances that you did in m, r n, a. advances in the delivery systems of the vaccination. all these things came into place just month before the coven vaccine started. i'm not about to say, it was a big conspiracy, but does it even surprise you that all these different elements of scholarly work over decades? and then they were very quick advances in the month before the coven virus was 1st

detected in china or in it. so they were just assume that it happened so quickly because actually 2018 already for the same formulation. him a m, an english, i was already just actually order one type of insurance out good food in here in germany. so those were, it was just a different, a lead animal studies monkey studies showing that this is a very effective vaccine to have this i donate with the particle. and he was published in a lot of the least could prove that. and i just, for, it was for the providers in for her. why was many, many events in all these books away. so it was just those people who are not on our field and not wondering, we're thinking that it just haven't everything right there. and i'm back in

2018. we already were, we pfizer, a vaccine, but it was for influence. do you understand the nature of breakthrough infections or is it to do with the mother in a or is it to do with the delivery mechanism? the lip, it, as you might have to say, what that is, is do we understand yet why break through infections happening? incredibly, red hot inflammation. the side effects is nothing to do with the m r n. a technology is to do with the delivery to the do it to the buyers and then it, when you in here it start to probably put it in your nasal cavity and we're not here . and if you don't have enough for anybody in your blood, you don't have antibody in that area. so there's a virus can pretty funny. most of the virus is homemade when we are infected in friends, it's not just getting into our long it's purse gets in there. every day in the

nasal cavity and that be by there and then goes in health or not. but if you don't have any blood and body because you want to be would have vaccinated 6 or earlier 6 said lot earlier. what happened is, any money, let me go such, but you have number says so that when you would infected that you get a little b, c because you don't have any hurts and nobody knowing your nasal cavity and you inherit. but then your memory says we're kicking and then you will get there. anybody will get to the satellite. immunity is just say grill coffee, a little amid it is will be a city. so this is the breakthrough happened because it is, it is rescued authorities. gosh, the body just is a little factory, isn't it? i don't know whether you heard about this thing called new or a 10 approach him protein, which they're saying is a, they've identified, which is a really good ideas to me. can things just we plug it in to your technology?

i know the peanut allergies. i know that obviously, malaria, it's going to be much more complicated. kills $400000.00 people a year of a malaria is obviously going to be more complicated to the life cycle of a parasite. but can you not just do the peanut allergy one to morrow? so so we are talking go back to nation. very one 0, in your system to respond to some again the any meet and, and in the case of allergies, auto immune disease we want our immune system is not to the p act. so these are different things and, and you can approach her florida. it was one that is a ship dudley's vaccination for added nation, meaning that you will call it i subpoena and there are other dish because those are protein base. and actually 8 years ago was already we heard presentation from our messenger. i'm eating that people try to use an a to a p to li, eject to the patient, and not once have that component to actually it would have a component clarity,

tony canary. and that is also in the see a we presented already with this a very serious out in disease and teaching repeatedly to the body. but now it's not activating like indicates of maxey, but say, for the english, we do a man that believe want to estimate anything. it says just connect to larry clay and then in animal studies already, we could see that one of these ation and the treatment of human disease was accomplished. yeah, i mean, it seems it's such an early stage. i'm always in a cancer one being so so important. i mean, i have to ask you obviously about the fact that all those corporations have funded those educational establishments rejecting you in the 990 s. it turns out now that the pfizer, bye own tech, i think, combined $86000000000.00 in revenues. thanks to this. what do you think about the

intellectual property debate? amnesty international saying that out of $5760000.00 doses of vaccine, only point 3 percent gone to low income countries. do you favor as joe biden did at the beginning, i think the relaxation of intellectual property rights through your work. i can be out there for free, and i always wanted to have everybody, you know, i was talking for nothing. it was never in my mind to get there if you know, and nobody should be a scientist in mind to get a channel. the scientist is dedicating that i want all of those people who are they are to get the same quality so that it would make and you give them 2 heaters recipe and they start to do and 150 print quality control and everything goes. what happened is i understand you cannot just keep that at me and do what you want. they had to be trained and they had to,

if you want to set up to promotion, it has to be sustainable, not to they do. and then when he gets older than is allowed to fax in factories are in the developing world, which has the least amount of explanation. like we've been hearing written with vaccination, but he's in india. yes. a virus which is something therefore that he's infected. so they get, they were free to call that procedure. and when you have to have the formulation of the particle that is ever seen, done differently, you need for people to be educated. i'm sure it sounds something happened like that, that not only the information we reach people so quickly, you know the tests, for example, the essay. i remember an h i v to do, we didn't, we couldn't even identify the device is there because there was no essay to that,

that i think happened how quickly everybody could see that. ok, it wasn't even somebody infected and, and, but to me it came very quickly but to not everywhere, but i have to value the best to my knowledge. a $144.00 sunday's was set sheet, her pfizer vaccine and the price was cop ended and providing. but most people who could educate those in the facilities that how to do this though that 247 day i'd working to make see, and they don't have a time to do that. but, you know, i, i think it is intention is east of s, and i don't see that that it's pushing down the money. i don't see his way or has gotten drink a thank you. and you, as over the show will be back on saturday. yet to the day since you k prime minister bars, johnson's goes to say don't. cummings left, downing street of the hedge of the current of ice pandemic?

after being accused of violating lockdown rules, he helped to implement until then he went to iowa social media. let us know if you think big farmers causing lives intellectual property rights. ah, new york, it's really what america is about. when our mayor took our vase, he was elected because of his campaign on our city, being a tale of 2 cities, the halves and i have not. and those who have not are usually the ones who weren't being buried on hard. i. the city is always wanted to forget about hold island. city is wanted to forget about the people who are buried there. it's wanted to

forget about the fact that there is a potter's field that there was a place where difficult stories are hidden. the fact that we're using inmates to maintain this active burial site, where 1000000 souls are buried, where so much of new york city history is buried, is payment of the inequality that has existed in the city for centuries. ah, harold is driven by drink shaped bankers, and those with dares sinks. we dare to ask

ah, turning off the top, isabel roost temporarily shots an oil pipeline which runs from russia to poland and into the e. u on schedule maintenance is the stated reason for the halt, but comes at a time of heightened tensions between mince and brussels. the latter issue, a sharp divide, emerges over poland tactics with friends, slumming plans for a massive wall to be built on the border. we look at that tough line being taken against people crossing from belarus or migrant boats are freely crossing the mediterranean and germany considers imposing drastic code rules on the on vaccinated joining a growing list of countries to do so that government struggles to coordinate its pandemic response.