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of taiwan continues and in the subsequent part, they made it very clear that what they felt was in an editorial in the global times they described lincoln a. this was hypocritical, was what he said was nonsense and underlined the fact that this is a very serious issue, that the confrontation could come with the united states over the straits of taiwan. but if america who goes on supporting secession is them in taiwan. if it goes on encouraging this attitude and then we have long prepared for war and i do, we don't know how to get through to the. well, 3rd is in taipei, this is very serious, very serious, and d. so i think this was a climb down immediately afterwards. then because the bite was report to the saying,
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look, there's no way that the usa is imminently about to recognize a taiwan like 50 another, arguable us proxy nation is do. well that's, i mean, you know, they actually have been speaking with 2 phases on this. the president keeps saying, of course, one china policy. we're not changing the one china policy, but then again, you have jake sullivan, the us security advisor, in an interview on cnn. with that, korea was saying very clearly listen, what we mean by managing this competition is, is the, you know, the status for the possible future. sess. the parameters of its own and its allies interest. we set the parameters and then when exactly they said, yeah, but what have you actually agree during this time?
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what, what did you negotiations with china? what's come up? and sullivan said, just very blank. pay him wrong question. donna asked me that question. wrong metric that was, that was the tone of the the, the sullivan interview and fame equally, you know, not only always going to affect the people order for the guy lines for the board of the framework for the global order in our interests. but it's also going to support free liberal mark everywhere. in other words, if we're going to be, if you like, if you like it was going to be a criteria or a framework for the lease or financial leads to continue to invest and explore capital, where they choose more of the way the china was expected to to manage with this
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except the, the global order for this coming period, and then to perhaps to be a, to cooperate as bite and said to them. and as jake fellow them said, and within the framework within this new global, no doubt. so our interest then there may be areas where we can cooperate, trump put sanctions, whereas biden is sending war ships along with verse johnson's warship, elizabeth grove, carrie plus these sorts of threats and saying, cooperating economically. that's exactly. i mean, every, every week there is a new move on taiwan, a sort of incremental chop chop chop as it moves closer and closer.
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of course, on the one hand, america says that it still supports the one china policy, and they agree mm month subsequently. but every so often there is a new element. the type pay off is a cultural office is going to be designated instead of taiwan represented. this, there are more visits by sea merrick and fishers to taiwan ships go through regularly, the taiwan straits to sort of, to emphasize the freedom of fading. and people come like the australian prime minister come to taiwan and say, well, of course i can see it would be possible either for australia or america, not just for taiwan. should china attack it or invade it? okay, well, so since this was causing them, the chinese, this great anxiety about similar tenuously while that's happening in the south
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china sea or the indo pacific as, as we now call it the all because we'll the pull out of get this done. i mean the obviously the we their easton took his turn is that make the movement has been taken off the u. s. terrorist list and china is putting $2000000.00 of bond leave investment to have this done. one f. b, i whistle blow, sybil. edwin said, need to see is jin chang is the next day. one is actually it happening simultaneously? is that credible that neo is a little bit? i think this is very credible because me and part of sullivan's talk. he said, part of setting the part of setting this new global order in the c n n interview. he said, well, he said also it would be based on enshrining
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the text of the declaration, the universal declaration of human rights into every international institution as well as into the order. and i think it's very clear that it was us weapon i zation along with climate change is a weapon. isaiah of china. and yet i think that precisely this process, what do i call it? i would call it the cost of isolation of taiwan. and you, craig, and also probably jane, province, justice, kosovo, was the started or was getting full diplomatic support saying we support if you like, kosovo internationally, allies. and then it moves to the next stages of asking that they should be going in every part of the international community. and it's just introduced to statement which he says exactly that. he said,
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there's no reason why taiwan shouldn't be in all those committees and institutions of the united nations. they should be there on the civil a, a trade in every institution. and we support their inclusion in a substantial way in the united nations at every level. of course, he says, you know, they can't be representative of china. but they must be included in, or this is the cost of or playbook being repeated if like for taiwan. and ultimately i suspect it hasn't done it yet, but changing problems will be, will follow probably for from bad. so yes, i think that is a correct assessment. i mean, i want to get back actually to that causation. that phrase, you're using the quick sidebar for some of you is watching. when you use phrases like weapon is ation of human rights or weapon is ation of what if the city
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what, what does the weapon is? ation of human rights mean to those who are watching circle, mainstream media, of course, genocide, engine jang, let alone anywhere in the world where nato opposes. oh, there are. i mean, a question of human rights. chinese would say very clearly how we manage our human rights. isn't the amount of for us and how we deal with it, just like every country has its own human rights problems. the west is not immune from having human rights problems. we only have to look back at the things such as rendition that took place in the middle east, where the west would kidnap take hosted people and then render them for torture in foreign presents. i think that would be testified as
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a human rights abuse. so the problem with that is essentially, is that, is it being used to sort of target a particular country and a particular in a particular way? is it looking for human rights abuse in order then to hold china accountable and then put sanctions? that's the process we're talking about. more sanction being put on china, more isolation on china, trying to push it out to be international order and then twice elation on a counter who of human rights. and of course, although human rights speculation, i'm sure it's a very fine document, but different countries, different civilizations have different view. china has to prize social cohesion, the community as it is human rights. i mean the rights of communities, the rights of the people as a whole. we in the west enterprise,
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the individual human rights, individual identity rights can to rights. well, if you, i mean, now we have so many more of these identity issues coming up, all of them can be used to put sanctions or penalize, or indeed other forms of the right punishment on the state. that's what, what can i say of human rights speech? i mean, i think i supposed to put all of them, but i suppose the point is it's in the i have the i of the beholder and it goes, guantanamo is, is open as to greg. i'll stop you there more from the former advisor to europe in unions. hi, representative for common forum and security policy after this break. ah ah,
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ourselves to be more efficient quicker with our transactions. but with that comes a trade off. every device is a potential entry point for security attack. any machine can be, it's an extension of traditional time. the defenders have always been one step behind the attackers. a response to comes option in the offering. it's not a matter of if it happens, it's a matter of when welcome to max hazards, financial survival guide, looking for our 2 year ago. yeah. this is what happens dimensions in britain del, at this app. if you watch kaiser report. oh, there's a patch of water around the try, a seal island that's in contention between canada and the united states,
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northern gulf, a made me suddenly become optimal for lobster in our population here is exploded. one of the most valuable fisheries that's ever existed. suddenly you had made an canadian fisherman in these waters at the same time jousting for position and attention to high violence is bound to happen. this is the last land border dispute between canada and the united states. it could be magnified to the part where there could be costs that would be significant to poke countries. border disputes don't go away. they suspect something's going to happen with
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mm. welcome back. i'm still here with former british diplomats, allister correct. why do you think the biden administration does not understand that a few empower certain groups that doesn't necessarily pro washington's values . it can blow back after all the failures in recent decades. i mean, colon pals, ex chief is job larry wilkinson saying, vito afghan has gone very aware the cia was very way of the week as being able to, we used to destabilize beijing directly. these guys know the dangers of supporting
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is the mist extremism. for some notional idea of a geopolitical supremacy. i'm not sure, i mean post for, i think they're all great day, very much stuff in your christ, taiwan. and then other places that are all great, dangerous, that this can get out of control. it's very hard to manage the things when they stop, particularly ukraine, because the government there is not in control. the administration is not really who has control of the country. but what i'm really trying to say to you is that i think what we're seeing is from a cabinet by certainly parts of elements in washington to create the fence that america back, americans on paul. so, and to do that, they want to be quite aggressive and forceful. and so they put to these issues such
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as ukraine bell arose with russia and they're doing that, the key, russia on the back foot off balance to keep china off balance. but also particularly to try and give the vitamin ministration a success foreign policy. even if for foreign policy success into a strategic blog. i mean, it depends of losing the wall to gain the political advantage to come back and say this was a great success. and this is really some of what's been happening in a way the night estate is strategically weaker, but sometimes they can go back domestically and say, well, you know, we really gave the iranians. what for in the last talk we ready. did we tell china we cochise or by what happening and we goes and it's genocide and it's not acceptable. and that's very important in the domestic context of the united states
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. does it help you? does it how the united states strategically probably the office is actually seen over this period because that sort of process started during the clinton administration. but actually, america has got weak. if you're in spirit, as from gods congress. look at the middle east. look at the, the, the coming together. i think it was even 20 years ago. people want that the sort of short term success. it's all it would do would be to turn china and russia against the united states and even possibly could have been working together against us. that's what's happened. and when it comes to the conservation that you were mentioning earlier, this time around, obviously, i mean, the china will remember it's embassy being destroyed, as nato broke up. your love you at that time in the ninety's and poochie. and i think roy's remembers that russia should never have abstained on that un security
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council resolution on libya. so it's a bit different this time then major in moscow, up, up to the tricks that washington my play and root will react differently. her. and i mean, this is what china said to, to, to bring them to, to support sullivan. you know, we're not doing this ala carte foreign policy where you just pick, we don't like to cooperate with us. but on the other issues, it's a open warfare. we'll just go for you on human rights on trade, on whatever, stealing our secrets, we will, we will proceed. and they said, sorry, thank you. we don't do that. i don't, we put all the issues and we have a discussion. and we do not accept neither russian, china, except the right of the united states to determine the global or rules based order that the united states does not have the right to determine the rules for
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a global order is not going to be acceptable to either of those state and they rejected very please, this is a big change because i say this very, very, very clearly when they send n voice, when, when the showman goes to china victorian newland, they say, look, here's our interest. when all prepared to talk to about this, if you want to talk about taiwan, you want to be talk about these other issues. there are private or internal masses . hong kong, in turn, by, by victoria, be very tough. people can look at her a leak phone call about the european union on line. i suppose, i don't know about the refugee crisis there, but i mean, here the english channel enormous numbers of people fleeing. well, from the was started by tony blair and, and george w bush all that time ago. but actually the news here is not mean about the refugees across the english channel. i'll give you far more coming for france. it's about,
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of course, as you mentioned earlier, the better roost. poland border is putin responsible for hybrid warfare, as we're being told every day. here is a vanguard of this kind of opposition to washington's resurgent imperial policies. no, i mean there's obviously a zone assuming something of a stand off to pro magic stand or taking place between bella bruce and the european union. but when it started off, you know, we were told to, we're happy 4000 refugees on the other side of the fence to poem. now it turns out that there are only 2000 that let's put this into context. is us going to be, is this hybrid water is going to bring down the or can union or you would know better than me, but as a pain experiencing was refugees arriving in a day. not over this period. i think the refugee thing is slowly being
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deescalate the airline. why in the refugees going? that is not someone is recruiters of the refugees have in mind. there are certain countries that up, you know, you get to open germany. obviously one britain, united states from the thought. so erection, can you try and find whatever was big and get and they will start off the refugee sitting on the roof side of the border made a very clear that destination is not. poland is small. the latter, their destination is made quite germany and maybe pull him in the way we get the we got the idea on our tv screen. this is putins monster plan. it's not a, it's not, i mean, you know, to have some refugees. i mean, germany's let in a 1000000. i mean, it's not. and anyway,
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it won't happen because they're slowly re penetrating them. putting shanker to the high representative of your sources are less manager. we need some help and we'll do it and we'll, we'll manage this. i think actually trying to sanction the airlines is actually going to the europe shooting itself in the foot. because if they do that, then not only belarus but russia will probably cut off the space to european airlines. if that is what is done to them. and then are, all those british airlines trying to fly to asia will have 5 hours extra flying time. whereas emirates of the other haitian airlines will be flying direct, the europeans will have a big loss on tourism and on passengers flying to asia. i mean, i know i mentioned my 6 earlier, i know you got to talk with my 6,
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but do you think the fact that journalists report about all these things about may jing about moscow in these ways are because they are influenced by hollywood ideas of james bond, is it this idea of the evil bond villain that goes through journalist heads? it is, let alone politicians ads. it is a problem. i do think there's an extraordinary sense where you have been sort of me taken up these narrative and they go, or even when there's no real basis of it, we've just seen one just now. for example, you've all seen, you know, russian troops on ukraine, border masses of troops on the border. i mean, the reality is that the troops that have there are 200 kilometers away from the board. no, putin is not intending to take over the ukraine. what he's wired to fight and what he's concerned about is whether the key f in a desperate attempt to get nato and european support for an imploding
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authority. and it's going to try and use this dumbass as the tool in which to extract further support. nature's already set it towards hope. remember that defensive ex defense preset that to about 3 weeks ago in europe has been selling them or weapons merican for promising them or weapons to try and reunite really great bass you crave. and putin has no desire to go and take on, you know, the mess ukraine, unless there was a real fear that forces back by the west, we're going to overrun the dog. and then it's, you know, it's the old story that you saw in britain with the falkland islands. it's about kick them k, k. most of these people. many, if you go to moscow,
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most russians have got a cousin or relative said listen, don't boss. i mean, it's a russian speaking area totally, russian speaking, these russian currency and they're all closely related. so it's very difficult for, for putin would be to ignore the invasion of the don bus very difficult. and that and that low intensity now battling is continued out for years. obviously, britain arming ukraine. optimism perhaps here the world is finances aren't just from the military. industrial complex obviously, could change come from multinational corporations lobbying nato governments, one k street in washington over here in london saying look good. we're starting to lose money on the considerations of ever more sanctions against aging in moscow and iran, even could it be multi nationals rather than it seems,
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democratic populations, pressuring politicians into some kind of detente. i think the most important thing actually happened in the, in the outcome of the american departure a couple because what we saw enough to was something quite striking. the shanghai cooperation organized, they merged with the east asian european economic community, which merge with here. so that is the security organization comprises much of what was he stood southern south asian, a soviet union into a single unit that embraces something like 53 percent of the global population and 25 more percent of g d p, a fast growing area. iran has, but i believe it pakistan is
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a member of it. and then saudi arabia has to be a dialogue part egypt to us to be a dial up. and i think what we're seeing is the potential potential, perhaps for new security architecture to emerge embracing parts perhaps of the middle east too. and that's quite striking that that could be a like the mechanism that could reduce some of the tensions to be used in this way . and it's clearly going to change the prospect for a country like iraq. they'll be a pipeline, i'm sure, going across from iran through afghanistan, long border kennestone and china, north tuscan, i klein, colorado east west corridor. all of these things are ongoing. i mean, that is an area where, you know, development is, is going to move very, very rapidly. rusher is just degree to invest future in the caspian
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oil side in the rain. you take to the caspian sea, huge amount money. so i think we're going to see a big change from this, the scattering. is it going to be, i think this is why it is so much more confidence in russia and china, just say to america, know, and united states increasingly are just doing the same. i'm sorry, but we don't accept that you set the the roadmap, you on setting the global rules for, for, for the world. because there are other states who equally powerful and also because the strategic balance as shifted. america has a few right, is behind in the military sense, as well as in the technology and in the assay. correct. thank you. thank you very much. indeed. i mean, that's over the show will be back on monday,
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