[000:00:00;00] ah ah hello and welcome to cross doctor. all things considered i'm funeral about as tensions are again on the rise regarding ukraine. we hear about red lines, russian red lines, the west needs to take them seriously. also in the wake of the rittenhouse burdick, isn't it time to admit late legacy media? lie all the time about almost everything. ah. to discuss these issues and more and joined by my guest jordan, samuel eli, in budapest, he's a podcast or at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in

moscow, we crossed to dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at in us me internet media project. for a gentleman cross up rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i was appreciated. or i was start out with demon here in moscow. i'm a president putin address to russia's foreign policy elite and was quite interesting that he talked about red lines again to the point of reminding, as he likes to say, where his wet rushes, western partners, which i find quite whimsical, to be honest with you. but he did, he's basically saying you're not taking serious rhetoric very seriously, and you do it at your own peril. i mean, i don't know how much more straightforward and simple you can make it. ok, all you have to do is go to the website, the kremlin dot, are you and you can read these things the much, but no one in the west seems to be tickly, bothered go ahead. oh, the problem is that the nato,

a general sack 3 or the people sequences or split relations and we wanted maybe devastate. i mean the reason why the lighter problem or the border between all the bell. the reason why it is so cute because both cannot talk to them or they cannot talk to, they won't they, they, they, they don't want to talk to deal with a lot of the few voters publications which has a relatively independent you of what's going on. the road that we have, like children, you know, the grown ups, you know, like mrs. murphy was talking to the ceiling down for don't you know, the least try to resolve the problem and we are facing this problem and we can talk to you when you, you know, the same story with russia or any kind of dialogue with russia. no, i'm not even speaking about concessions, and you know, dialogue is viewed as a huge, huge weakness. you know,

we should be taken to russia if we can see the crimea ukrainian territory. even though, you know, i visited the crimea 10 times in my childhood, in my young years, i never heard of water green spoken. but you do like the states considers, crimea grain. it means that u. s. warships and british waters will be no rush and it was after all burial, you know, the world may go down, but they will be doing that. and the people behind it, boys, johnson, all american. but just they know they're not going to be held responsible. if something terrible happens, they will blame it all russia and this continues. i mean, just this week we saw this new responsible staff congressman suggested, look really nice and we can victory if you're around since 2000. thank you for. so this is, it is awesome to me. no, i'm not sure whether or not,

but the, they have already wasted time. well, if it happens, we may lose it and then watch, you know, so that is the same day. your sports, you know, with russia, with anyone in the west disagree with, well, your church is like playing in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. i mean, this is a, a foreign policy in the mind. ok. it's completely divorced with, from reality on the ground. i mean, the russians obviously very perturbed with nato's posture in any country would be, i mean, it calls itself a defensive alliance, but it looks pretty offensive. you're sitting in moscow here and, and all the, much more. so to have dialogue. i mean, basically they're saying if we want to avoid the worst, and i think we all want to, we have to at least talk to each other. i mean, i'm glad team of brought this up. this issue about the, the migrant crisis on the be a route, a polish border. it's not really a crisis. i mean, it gets a lot of media coverage, but i mean,

in the scheme of things with the migration problem in europe, it's really quite small potatoes. but this is a cultural here and it, the consequences could be dire and i don't think it's the, i see a western policy makers, edema said no one gets fired for, i mean they're, they're sleep walking into a disaster. go ahead or yes. but the problem is also that even when there is dialogue rushes, western partners which is very politely, being deceptive. and i think that's something that in the grow a repeated over and over again, which is a, we go to the french would talk to the germans. and they tell us that they support the minstrel cause. and yet they do nothing until to further the minutes. because they know exactly what's in the midst of what is available online. and they say what it is, it's an agreement signed between the author isn't here in the or it is in the door . and there are certain steps that here is compelled to me. and then he steps here

as my, which is changing its constant use and granting a special status to the dentist and the amnesty and then not done it. and not only are they not done in france and germany, i'm not doing anything at all to push them to want it. on the contrary, they keep encouraging a curacy and will seriously nato keep encouraging here by telling them this is a conflict between russia and ukraine and that ukraine is the victim of russian aggression. and this goes on year off the year of the year. i mean that, you know, it's already now in the 7 years since the signing of the midst of was, russians are getting very pretty, very upset about this. because essentially, the wes, this is lying to them with no interest at all in resolving this fundamental country . they are trying to strengthening ukraine and encouraging them to try to resolve this by force. and that's why who says rand lines, this is

a red line. we're not going to tolerate. you're trying to resolve this by force, but everything which is doing is advancing towards that end. i mean, bar is johnson signs a strategic bob to ship agreement with you. great. and as does blinking then what, what else the russians could close. that basically is that all of the key major partners are encouraging you crate to try to resolve this by force. and that is definitely a red line. deem i mean this is how it plays out. encouraging the zelinski regime and to be more robust in its attempts to regain control of the dumbass. there is a military operation, large or small. it doesn't really matter. it forces a russian reaction because the russians have made it clear that these 2 problems will not be ethnically cleanse. we have to remind our viewers that up to 14000 people in the done best have been killed by the government. and so they want to

force russia said, and then they'll say, see, they're aggressive, that's how they want to play the stuff you know, do you know who the biggest loser in all of this is ukraine? go ahead. i think the biggest loser already r u n. u h was russia and brain. it has been impossible to read your brain during the last 2 years. and then later on this, but also the refusal all that you bring it down with a. 1 1 rush to just to give it to them for free, you know? and they said no, because this is a rec, seen pro game with the way seen because it was made in rush and thousands of your brains die. and this is no reason to get for the rest, but see the same story between balance and all of the through

a. now let me tell you, or maybe not all of them know this, you know, so, you know, for bell russians, it's like their 2nd, it was like st. petersburg russians. there was music in the south. there was the owners in all been having a ship was basically a single entity inside rushing fire which included the bellows, easton ball, and the same people. you just, you and your for there, you know. and now that building a wall or 200 miles a month and 100 miles long in yet, that is a drag while the g. and why 2000 and why the boy, that as far as i know, 800 microns and to read them every day. so he's basically the same amount that as a, this is an invention problem that the claim is, i mean, george and i have talked about this on the god and is that, you know, this is

a problem is a bare roost. poland problem that only the russians can resolve. ok, i mean again, this is a ploy. ok. they, they won't talk to, you know, they won't talk to a question about this, but they really don't want to talk to, but they really wanted to resolve it. are you crazy or if you all that this is what a several days ago now talking to russian because she's not right now talking to you because she's an evil as the right. so they don't look into a new one and they just expect that you know, and then let me go back to georgia, they're talking among themselves, thinking if they're going to resolve the problem, like talking among themselves and talking on the cell because the migrant crisis, as the great crisis is something that nato power is one to use as a propaganda weapon against russia. they seize on this,

they made no attempt to resolve this over to him by humanitarianism. so they show no matter what. so they still, oh great, we're going to use this as a propaganda where the was absolutely right. there are far more people coming across the channel, illegally drug from france to the u. k. every day then the people on the bank is not a huge problem or is johnson isn't right me wrong. i don't know, you know, the terrifying sanctions war or anything. and yet this is supposed to be a crisis. and despite the fact that the centrally inhumane methods of being used on the, by, by the voters, or again, the final that the g several issue, the statements a, we stand on the poland. so where is all the humanitarianism? so this is something is very useful, is just something to mobilize. the troops mobilize the west. so you're, you're saying ga, the french and the british,

they're squabbling about the channel. but then they come out with a g 7 bed. and their incomplete solidarity on immigration is legally whimsical. georgia, i deem it before you finish up here. and there are news reports here that and then he has an um, $8500.00 troops to the, to the be a russian border. i mean, what should be a diplomatic political, even economic solution. again, we have these powers relying upon military to solve a humanitarian problem. i mean, again, it seems quite contrived to me last 30 seconds. go to you, go ahead. well, i think it's also lesson because he was friendly with that by russian bringing regime in its origins. you on both terms with the west not was about it, you know, was not rich. so it also shows you show the west why location is against. there is no problem with that boy. when he is friendly with them,

he got to do them. i don't want to take a single wider. i jumped in here but it seems you know, it through the whole history of cross our we have to 31 flavors. of lucas jenko, who would have thought of gauge or a gentleman. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break and that's about your break. or can you continue our discussion with some real new stay with our team. ah ah ah, what else? so seemed wrong, went on just a to see how it does seem to come to the african and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look for common ground. oh,

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ah, let's go back to george in budapest, i the written house, a verdict is in. and of course the it within american elite circles, you know, did, did the system work? it was their justice and they can chase their tail all they want about that. okay, that's fine, but one of the things i guess for me kind of being a bit of a far away is, this is still another contrived story that falls has fallen flat on its face. weapons of mass destruction, russia, gate, bounty gate. oh, hunter biden. we can go on and on for hours and hours, and this one, this one really was an ultimate fail because i think you, all of us would agree. russia gave was important to some people in it and it had elements. but this is something that so internal, the left is race lies,

everything divided people by race. and now you look at the mainstream meeting, the, the broad sheets look at the liberals of stations, and they completely got it wrong from when are people going to finally turn them off? george, go ahead. yes, it is quite shocking because this is a real pattern. it's, it's something that's ongoing, it's not like where you've got this all that story wrong, but generally you get everything else, right. it's just, it's systematic. i mean, in this case in which every single thing that the mainstream media mainstream politicians talked about was there was wrong. i mean, i mean all the stories about it. he was a white supremacist. i got a gun and carried across state like a straight line state line or if it and so and everything that he went a was a vigilante. every single thing was wrong. ok,

you know, if there was a recent case, leave treyvon martin case with george settlement again. every single thing was wrong and deliberately so. and then it was, you mentioned the russian gave me russian date is of kind of late of say, stories and it wasn't just the students here. oh, we got that right. there was also the story about we lease a lease about the trump town meeting like george a alex on the down and it was on on. and then, you know, you mentioned all the other cases. so there is a systematic pattern here. and what is really pernicious is that they also the guardians, the watch dogs the mainstream, into the watch, dogs of what is the sense. so, you know, anything, the holes, you know, they will, they deem to be fake news of the ban. so we just know that we have the case of the is it, i mean,

how many stories have been put out about cove it and was immediately a, you know, this is untrue. so this must be bad. don't imagine how many people will ban for saying that back scenes on the fact that, you know, doesn't a facebook with its own. now it's admitted, you know, yes, i mean, the last is may or may be 60 percent effective. yes, the vaccines may only be good for 4 months, but that's a new story. and then again, well, the story is about the home to buy the laptop. so these are the people who of a is a use also the lives of the guardians. what is the mystery to say so, and you know, the self appointed policeman of the inflammation space edema and this, this is right in your, in your will house here,

is that this is the ultimate ideology trumps from justice drums. reality, i mean, these are all, it's all, this is ideologically driven towards po for the sake of political goals. me news. i mean, what's that? it's irrelevant. i mean, particularly in the, in this a written house story. i mean, it comes into complete focus here. we're damn the facts. ok and, and the, and we're, we're basically to, i don't believe you're lying eyes. i mean, don't watch those videos. i mean, it's so patently obvious that this trial should have never gone to trial because it was ideologically driven and they were political goals at stake. i mean, that's what the prosecution was such a good phone going. well, basically there is a rule in relationship where you haven't fully don't why the base of the western media right now is that for every small, hopefully they're not. they're not narrow in the base well whitening like ok

there was the space with a house. he was defending himself, did he pass partial rules with that? no, he's a white supremacist. no, we should make it a matter of nation wide discussion. or we, you know, the same story with foreign reports like the whole gradient trade. you just started from a very small issue. should you great? have a station agreement with you in those 2013 or maybe 6 months late? not as young. and what did they do? oh, when i read is in support of that association. oh, no worries used for beta here sticks to disperse, the grow. oh, that means we should use or these people are in type of use. well, i guess, you know, he's a criminal, he must be overthrown, even though it wasn't legally. well,

some people did not agree with his or what role use walrus against the tense. this is allowed, you don't feel state that was a well we use our guys use tanks and. 2 planes, that's fine. so although a small issue, they all us grow a huge, huge problem and now the world may die. you know, in the back seat we have a real danger or you clear why? because you couldn't stand the fact that young boys asked them, asked them to wait for 6 months in 2013. same story with any ology has no patience as we hung up here. and also george, when it is interesting, is that years ago you would have to say, well, the jury is spoken. ok, good outcome, bad outcome, but they have spoken. but that's not the case anymore because not only many people

condemn the verdict. they condemned the process in which the verdict was um, decided upon c. that's, that's what so that's what shifted here. and obviously, if you did, if you are for the verdict that, that tells you the left, the people in power, everything they need. if need to know about you, you don't have a name, you don't have an age, you don't know and you don't have origin, you're a certain type of bad person. i mean, when everything gets to still down to the simplest denominator. now that is extremely unhealthy for a vibrant society, george. well, that's right, because whether the media of a is of, is the desired narrative, the design narrative is that ha, maybe even more than half of the american public are worthless. i mean, they are deplorable. they are the vaccinate that they are racist. k support,

that's the narrative they want. so when they, when they come to a case such as a case and down in florida, oh, the this case in kenosha, they want to use this is this of this kid. he was 17 years old. he's a stand in for races, white america. so that's it. that's the story. you know, you become this little kid. something becomes the vessel, but all media hatred for the great on war. it becomes direct that and the result that same collection with russia gave them russia and the great on war. somehow they live one of the same and then you know, and we have spent the last 56 years trying to link the right with russia that somehow put in is the man who, you know, not only did he give us a trauma, but he's behind all the rightly populace was everywhere that we don't like with are

available. so know how to do behind the so the, the, any, any situation arises. they're always looking for the russian angle here. you know, they're going to show the same rushes really behind all of this. and that's why a, when you mentioned some of those cases when the home to buy the story came up in the election immediately without any evidence of all we have, you know, what is the intelligence officials are open letter. so all this the smack, so russian, this information, again, no, it is a list of the mainstream media. when this goes well, this is baffled by who wants to make things back by the state. so i, i'm actually surprised that the, that hasn't been a full 2 car written house collection yet, but i'm only for it. i think that's coming nation. georgia is inevitably having to

deal with what's really important to point out here is if we compare russia gate hoax, and this is in campaign against this at the time, a 17 year old across state lines. i really that really goes over the top. it doesn't matter if they, if the, if the powers that be the liberal establishment gets it wrong because they always to fall back. but our cause is a higher cause it doesn't matter. and this is what so pernicious about it. and because you know, they all, no rush again was a hoax, but it served a purpose and that of the call written house trial serve to purpose. it doesn't. who cares about him. ok, and this isn't country we all know, but we need an ideological victory. that's what they're only concerned with. they they, they're, they're, they're not even ashamed when they're exposed for being the liars that they are going to do. well, i think the last once to say that the, i mean i,

we think he's very at home. but what i'm saying is that she was just a, yeah, well, a relationship with your spouse. no. why don't the baby never see this is what you always do. this is about, you know, so the problem stay with matter. and this is exactly the american media. exactly. the opposite, you know, i think i already know how that went through. if you read the initial stages or the press power to rush again. thank you. was russia we're both support can be a lamb radius. why? why? you know, somehow we wrote something that made it more active, which i think that will happen most likely because this is not, but it doesn't matter to me because those post exist somewhere on facebook. oh oh i

did. they will be mind for ever in perpetuity. last sense i can see my finish up. yes. so i think that the, you know, when we criticize the media, we don't criticize dollars be precise. we criticize what is behind it because these are no just need any mistakes. strong. my think the need is just the reflection of a bigger problem, which is dangerous for all walk on. the excellent point, that's all the time we have gentlemen who want to take my guess, you're in moscow and in budapest, i want to thank you for watching us here to see you next time. remember, oh ah ah, is your media a reflection of reality?

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