i was supposed to be very dangerous man. ah, breaking news at this hour. the deaths of 3 rescuers had been confirmed after they was sent on the ground, follow an explosion at a mine in central russia and killed 11 minus with warden. 30 still trapped on the ground thought a conversation about mandatory vaccines with the public. that's the controversial advice of the wi show. 2 countries are made to europe wide protests against the introduction of compulsory jobs for certain groups. french police arrest 5 people that a crackdown on human trafficking gangs a day off for almost 30 migrants drowned trying to reach the u. k. paris and london to point the finger of blame at each other. ah,

going from oscar. thanks for joining us on. auto international this evening on daniel hawkins worthy was and i, it's welcome to the program that we saw with tragic news. here in russia were an explosion of coal mining. the central region of camera has killed 11 people. the bodies of 3 rescues have also now been found with reports suggesting contact was lost with that team is thought 35 manas are still trapped on the ground to ortiz saskia china because the light, the latest project developments, all that 3 members of the search and rescue teams that was sent to try and find the miners trapped underground. have been found dead. the fate of 3 others remains unknown. however, given that the equipment that allows him to breathing such toxic conditions only last for 4 hours suggesting seems to be that it's highly unlikely that they will be found alive just for wind a little bit. so we can understand the broader picture here. on thursday we started

getting in use that incident had the card in the siberian city of cameras. now that's in the center of russia. it's about a 4 hour flight from moscow to the east. we learnt that that had been an explosion in a coal mine at a depth of around 250 meters at the time of the bloss, almost 300 people. what in side? thankfully the overwhelming majority of them managed to make it out safely. however, we do now know that at least 11 people, what killed on top of that 51 were injured. they have been transported to hospital several all thought to be in a critical condition. they are primarily receiving treatment for smoke poisoning. we've also been told that 35 minus remain trapped underground. they are somewhere in the mind. we do not know why we don't know what condition they are and what we do know is that communication was lost with them immediately following the morning . last, at the role of emergency services, what you'd expect,

they writes very quickly at the scene and really spent the great chunk of the day packing, very heavy smoke in order to try and reach those 35 on, accounted for minus a bit on your own. we heard that such in rescue effort to least temporarily be put on hold not was because that was growing concern that a 2nd explosion might to cause any moment when it became quite clear quite quickly that something had gone wrong. because those rescue was did not come to this office when we'd expect them to be, and even more worryingly or contact was lost with them. now of course, we know the tragic news that 3 of them have been confirmed that the 3 others were not sure yet the risk of a 2nd explosion remains. the level of mistake is a power over the limit by 6 percent. what caused this explosion? well, that is still to be determined. criminal probe has been launch preliminary findings, suggest that cold off in the ventilation shaft caught fire and not spread smoke

throughout the mind of what's unfolding. now that seems to be a lot of, i'm sorry, he thought me a lot of distress and desperation and loved ones seek any kind of information that they have. but tragically, it does appear that any hopes of survival for those 40 or so people rest with and minus alike who remain and not mine while hope for the survivors. unfortunately, diminishing by the hour of the world, health organization is urging countries. this thought a conversation was what it caused a very delicate matter of mandatory vaccinations. this comes a day after its stock warning the europe co would that so could it to 1000000 by next spring. there are lessons of history here when mandates have come at the expense of trust and social inclusion. so it's very delicate. we think it's time to have that conversation both from an individual and a population base perspective. and this marks a clear utah why the w. so here it said it did not support making jobs,

compulsory stating it was best to focus on informing people and making vaccines readily available. the latest spike in case number has prompted countries across europe to re impose cubs is that a grease or public a bod? vaccinated people from restaurants and entertainment news. sweden is considering monetary booth jobs for people over 40. francis sets like booster shots available for all adults, which will be needed for health policies and spanish regions, including only limiting movement for vaccine. hesitant citizens. own germinate sandstone waiting, all our shalt has called for mandatory co with shots as well. that the case numbers have hit a record of 74000 with a death, all passing 100000. the governments describe the situation as an emergency. you know, europe correspondent, payroll reports from but it was deep concern at the moment. and it's particularly when you look at those figures over the last 24 hours. the number of covert cases that have been reported to the robert caulkins that you passing 75000 for the 1st

time. also germany reaching a sod milestone as 100000 all over 100000. people have now died from cove at 19 in the country. we are in a period of governmental transition here in germany at the moment, says angle americo steps down and all of sholtes looks likely to be the man that will be replacing her. now both governments have set the alarm bells ringing really when it comes to this latest wave of coven 19. because the problem is obvious, we are heading for an emergency. the likes of which we have never seen before in this country. is that also the way out of this pandemic is that in institutions where especially vulnerable groups are cared for, the vaccination is made mandatory. all i've shown they're talking about the idea of introducing mandatory vaccinations in certain situations. now it is a big question here, found elsewhere about why vaccine uptake is not being as,

as prevalent as in german speaking country. so basically germany and austria were looking around 69 percent 68 percent, whereas you look elsewhere that haven't had mandatory vaccinations. i'm talking about spain, italy, portugal well over 80 percent in portugal, 98 percent. so the big question is, why haven't people in germany, austria come forward to take up these jobs now in australia, they've said that they're going to introduce mandatory vaccination for everybody from february of next year. now polls being taken of people here in germany suggests that that would be reasonably a popular idea. the idea that vaccinations were made mandatory. the thing is is that there is a really bleak picture being painted for those that don't the job. he is the outgoing health minister, yen spawn. the shyness yet, and probably by the end of this winter as is sometimes cynically said, pretty much everyone in germany will be vaccinated, recovered or dead. but it's true with the highly contagious delta. very,

this is very, very likely. while the federal government here in berlin can set an overarching covert policy, the individual 16 states that make up germany, they have the powers to be able to implement things as they see fit on the ground. and what that seen is a patchwork of, of methods that are being employed. if you're in states like bavaria, north, ryan, west, farley, abadan board and by the rhineland palatinate and others. then you're pretty much barred from public spaces if you've not been vaccinated, can't prove that you've got a valid vaccination all that you've recovered from coven 19 in the last 6 months. elsewhere like in the cities of hamburg and here in berlin, then you can get on public transport without being able to prove that you are vaccinated, recovered, or that you have a valid p c, r test. now we gauge the opinion of some people here in the german capital of what they make of the measures employed. i find it absolutely right,

especially in the current situation, we must be very thorough. personally, i have no issue with this. as i want to have safety when getting from a to b, please let us know it's difficult for many when they did not want to get vaccinated, but still when t is public transport, they will have to find other ways to move around. i find it a big device if it's shocking how they are using case numbers to force us into another lockdown. miss deserter said we are 9 on the scale of $1.00 to $10.00 at the apocalypse. we are at 9, but that relates to the quality of our politicians and not to the situation that prevails on the ground. where we have a new government on the way and they are going to be facing huge challenges, whichever way you slice it, when it comes to this latest, or of the coven pandemic. now there is news coming out on thursday that the outgoing chancellor angle america had wanted to put the country into a 2 week lockdown that would have started from well thursday. today. however,

i said be reported in those german tabloids that the incoming government led by all our shots. they have blocked. they said that's not the way they want to go. so it's not going to be locked downs. there is this huge problem with the 4th wave of covert 19 in germany. we're going to have to look to see what their plan is to tackle it. now to book the job and professor of urology and euros excited of us the all via now thanks for joining us. good with us today. this latest announcement from the w. hey, show urgent countries to talk about mandatory vaccinations. that's a big change using it from just a few months ago. in fact, when it was against that idea, what do you think has caused that change in advice? now? i think it should have been a mandatory vaccination to start with. if you really listen to physicians to experts and we haven't what, that's the robot coughing. it was in germany,

the buster institute in france, even the big institution ignited states and even more pronounced alliance in moscow . all of them agreed that this back seemed in action issues are the solution. and fortunately, because this was driven by politician and i cannot repeat it, often enough of input politics comes to makes medical decision is like a politician telling you if you need an index to me or not. this is not the way to go. i'm a cancer surgeon and effects on cancer patients was, was detrimental. so yes, we need mandatory vaccination. we should have done it much earlier. and the reason why people are so unhappy is because nobody was speaking clearly to them, explaining them the fact. it was more a political by and people across europe. i've been quite a while inventing their anger at these restrictions and we've seen protests against minor fee jobs as well. do you think this announcement could make the situation was as opposed to continuing to encourage people

a sort of carrot and stick approach just outright flatly making the mad at 3. do you think that's going to make the thought even more divided? listen, i totally agree with you, but are you surprised by your surprise? you don't inform people adequately. you don't spend time time money and resources to basically explain to people what's really going on. explain the vaccination process, the safety of this, this vaccination, and then you're surprised that people are acting like that. as long as social media is driven by speaking use in all parts of the world, you will have people doubting about the tickets of these kind of activities. vaccinations are needed. vaccinations are the solution. they always will be. and they have been for the past 100 years, we have eliminated big diseases. remember just short time ago with abeline africa, it was basically abolish true explanations as well. so yes, we need that and people are going to be unhappy because we don't informed them

adequately. you cannot do the politics and medical politics behind bar doors and close doors, just the stuffing way from politics and, and sort of back to medicine. i remember at the start of this pandemic, there was a lot of talk about heard immunity that, that was the answer alongside. obviously, vaccines is one and it was, i believe, 60 percent than 80 percent looking for a lot of countries. australia, for example, thou have the majority people vaccinated over 80 percent, a lot of people also recovered with natural antibodies. now it seems to not be enough. do you think then that's no longer. they also heard immunity that 100 percent vaccination rate is the only option. i think it, it is 100 kristen vaccination with is the solution hurt. immunity is neglecting the fact that the virus is mutating. there is a virus mutations and there's good news and bad news too. that the, the bad news is well, but fail to variant that we are dealing with right now,

which account for most of the infections is very, very much it. so with the infection rate is very high and quick. unfortunately, many people end up in intensive care, but if you look at the latest mutation, which was just detected in the united kingdom, for example, it's a sub variant of the delta virus. this the, this sub barian delta barriers is much less aggressive than the current delta barrys. so hopefully mutations not, we go in a bad directions. mutations always can go to a good direction where the barriers becomes less aggressive, less infectious, and less causing death and complications that potentially we are heading to that. but before that we clearly need vaccinations. so heard immunity is good, as long as a virus does not really mutate, but this one is a rock professor bob shop and believe at that. thanks so much for insight. great to talk to in the program today. how prof. i sub job job and from the boss t r o v and i thank so much no lights on

curfew has been extended in the french territory of guadalupe and made unrest over all the overcoat restrictions riot civils as spread to another caribbean island, mont, and 8 it, serena had longstanding hostility against the authorities in paris protest breakout . so the covet measures rocking frances overseas territory. a blog shops looting my. there was a law. unfortunately it had to come to this. we elected representatives, but they couldn't stand to say the youth is fed up with this parish fed special forces to bring down 10 ship test is running against mandatory vaccination health workers and health policies. pain to stop the spread of code that we have no more freedom here. we have become violent max, it was african hour. and so don furio with

a recent military crew is not letting up, despite the army, reinstating the ousted prime minister on sunday. the happen more protests and unrest demonstrations last week and violence with at least 16 people killed just on wednesday. or t siena, correspondent ward gasdio reports from the sudanese capital. well, these are these traditional thursday demonstrations here. so darla cartoon and the crowd, these shinla thousands. we had seen many small columns, swarming in various neighborhoods before converging here, and what they all want these for power to be handed over by the military to a civilian government. properly this time, without any acceptance, they bought the military. the step down many people here feel betrayed by prime minister ham dock, who signed an agreement with the military giving up a lot of civilian bower to the military. we'd, if you, with this agreement between hum dog and moran, and this give legitimacy and legal situation for the court will, if you did,

we want comp will not complete civil society and complete civil government tear gas out. or something of the sort had been applied here, though we haven't seen any police there. all 2 ties burning are on the road. that is also in a traditional part of these protests whereby brutus to set them alighted major intersections that they lay barricades made up of bricks of stones to stop traffic that is civil disobedience, but the crowd disease, very diverse. there are elderly, here there are women, there are children are also men. all sorts of people from all walks of life. of these crowds are much smaller than what organizes had called for. there were also much more than money we had seen earlier. many people had dug given up and if people no longer see the point in these demonstrations, they don't believe that any good change, positive change will come of these demonstrations after after 2 years of them. so

the crowds are much thinner than organ. i said ok, they had called for a 1000000 people that come out the streets of had gone to condemned last months. q i, qx by the military and also his death. the civilian, the, the prime minister ham dodson deal with the military power sharing deal, which they see as a betrayal of the revolution. french police of arrested 5 people in a croc, donahue, and traffic and gangs after at least 27 migrants died, trying to reach the u. k. inflatable dingey. on wednesday, the treasury is also led to london and paris trade accusations over where responsibilities lie the u. k. m secretary pretty patel told the house of collins this thursday that she'd outlined her proposals to france on how to resolve the crisis. my once again, the south made my offer very clear to france in terms of joint france and

u. k. cooperation, joint patrols to prevent the dangerous journey from taking place. it also. madam deputy speaker. no quick fix. 27 people drowned in the english channel near car lay off of their boat cap size, which marks the biggest loss of life in the english channel. 5 women and even a young girl and pregnant women were all among those gentle front since $1500.00 smugglers have been arrested under around $44.00 smuggler networks. dismantled. but that's simply not good enough. considering the latest statistics of nearly 26000 people, reaching british shows just this year alone, which is triple that of 2020. now both sides of the channel are essentially blaming each other. we've long had a tit for tat war of was between bars. johnson's government and dave emanuel microns as well. and now the french authorities are flat out, refusing to join in with that promise of a joint patrol mission on the shores,

which by the way, the united kingdom put forward, 54000000 pounds for that mission. so they're all questions like, where is that money going and in any case, can you really store money after situation like this, a humanitarian crisis now? well, the french say that they've been working day and night to stop these crossing. however, just yesterday morning, a group of more than 40 asylum seekers were pictured carrying a dinghy towards the waters in that photograph french piece appeared to be standing by and simply doing nothing. there are to those questions for the u. k. government as well because whatever the government has been doing, it's not good enough either. simply isn't working. we've had over the last few years, pretty much and keep latitudes and almost aggressive slogans coming from the government . particularly from the home secretary, pre to patel who had brown 3 years ago, said she would make these crossings an infrequent phenomenon. and more recently she vowed to shut off the route entirely,

making them on viable while despite this tragedy just yesterday afternoon. and indeed, this morning we've seen more boats attempting to cross the english channel. the terrible weather expected in the next few days, potentially is why many people are risking their lives across the english china because they feel this is almost there last opportunity for a while. but we've heard from the support in carla and he said this is something we were sure could happen. and even those on the rescue mission just yesterday said how, just, how many more people flew the lives before the government actually intervene to stop this? this is real group assassination. and then the situation we experience today. we have been driving it for a long time. we have been sounding the alarm for a long time, the fight the humanitarian crisis. now, will the government actually do anything after years and now years of a west sitting situation? well, let's throw slot out. so i'm scared americans,

professor of international history at the school the comics. so thanks for joining us. good to have you with us on the program today. obviously tragic news coming in from the english channel described as the was incidents of it's kind of paris, london, finger play and finger pointing, blaming each other for what's happened here. what is the main policy change that needs to happen to stop the social tragedies happen in the future? do think what i think didn't need there? the real change must happen in france, because after all, the french government is legally and internationally, legally responsible for his speeches. and for who moves around on these beaches and who lizzie's beaches. and so far, all we've seen is either incompetence, lack of will, or even complicity. a mean is the suspicion in england, the macro on i soon sense that breaks it and that he wants to punish the british

for brick. sitton. one way of doing this is to encourage migrants to cross from france to britain. legally these migrants should register the asylum in france, and they should be made to do so by the french authorities. why the french authorities are incapable of pleasing their. ready own beaches as a matter of a mystery and to nearly everybody in england. but they seem to be incompetent not only incompetent, but we've seen these pictures. you showed one of the french police just sitting by in the police cars. well, my parents are actually walking in front of them was ding, ease down to the water line, getting sent to crossover to england. and that for the british, it's very frustrating because there's, there's very little of british government can do once these people leave the shore in france. i mean, once they're on board, the bees are, and in the channel. unless the stop to the channel by french boats, by the,

by the french authorities, by french ships, then they just carry on into english waters and once an english territorial waters, then this little british can do. but i help them. i actually ironically help them to come shore in britain because it seems to be against international law. ready to turn them back and the french won't accept the british taking the back into french waters. ready and we have a humanitarian duty to make sure they don't sink and the hopes and to make sure they get all and to pretty shoes safely. and so it's highly frustrating at the migrant some. so cells are responsible, the people smugglers. ready of course, to support school, but it does come down to the french really 1st and foremost, they're on their shows, the leaving from their shores, or they're buying the boats in french shops. and the french police seemed to want

to do very little to start in houston, oscar i was want to jump in because i wanna already, i want to ask as many questions as i can while we have time. do you think are consistently hard aligned by the u. k. government could have prevented and such a influx of migrants and tragedies happening by putting people off, taking the risk or somehow a lot of people are saying that the u. k. has been too soft for too long. that's partly the sort of breaks that sort of and that as you should, we say that that's that, that's this cause this. what can a u. k. government do well this will literally could do the proposals that these people should be flown at some far away and center with that. the claims can then be assessed, but they haven't arranged this to the british government find impossible to arrange this with foreign governments. it may be they can fly them to south georgia and the south atlantic or to the falkland islands were somewhere. ready that would cause a huge amount of money and would be very difficult to organize. um,

i could say to the asylum seekers and you know, we'll stop paying you benefit. so we'll. ready deprive you of humanitarian assistance, we will come over, but that will be a backlash against that by a humanitarian here in britain. and it would be against our international human rights obligations. but it is difficult. i mean that the real responsibility lies with the french and i say, macros seems to want to encourage this to punish us for breakfast. and the either the french are incompetent in order to place it. and it's very difficult to understand which is the more. ready relevant, a see here are the incompetent are the actually trying to put pressure on the british to try and somehow reverse brakes is on the, i don't know. but basically these people should register for asylum and france, this should be picked up by the french resorting. mister scanning and stopping them

and seemed to be carrying out their duties. what do you think of stopping them doing that? because a lot of these refugees migrants are, are their final aim is germany is france or other european countries, which are perfectly safe and perfectly developed and offer them a haven as germany has what he thinks causing him to risk their lives and the lives that children by moving on with the u. k. well, the in interviews with suggests that they don't like france the think the french sorties are hostile. a lot of them, of course speaking, bish rollan french, a lot of them, especially among the iranian refugee, seemed to be a heading for groups of relatives of friends inside britain who are here already. ready and they may well have the idea in their heads that get better treated the come to, to britain, the asylum centers of the actually arrive in a not very nice um, but, but, but anyways,

britain seems as far as the majority of these people are concerned to be a better place to, to get to than france and using the deal at the u. k. carney has with france on migrant, some control amalgam flows. it is fit for purpose that france i take the responsibility and hold migrants back. i mean, things clearly aren't working all day. no, i mean i, we, we, we've given them millions and millions of plans to try and recruit more. please set up more, a means of stopping these people, but it did. i didn't want to do some money. i mean more and more. ready people get through the bull money, we give the french the more migrant we can't, it's. ready an impossible situation, and then mac kronos a cheek to say we shouldn't complain. we shouldn't play politics. but the french state is failing. who there is feeling deliberately over stay failing through

incompetence. we all want to, i don't know. i'm at the scale. i'm afraid to start to start to drop to time is upon our thanks so much for insight about that. i ellen scared americans, professor of international history at the l. s. e. we value your time here throughout the program. thank you. ok, thank you. there's the airlines for the south georgia again in 30 minutes time full night is still not international. ah, ah, the news

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