to geisha is looking into what exactly led up to the accident and stories like val aries, are all being taken into account to figure out what happened. why and whose negligence ultimately cost 51 people, their lives. and many of them lived right here in lennon's quiz nest, essentially a minor city with population of just over a 100000. most people here are miners or at least know somebody who is. so that means that the accidents add the live version a coal mine has had very close to home. but despite the magnitude of the tragedy, work in the mine will eventually resume. and while the life of a minor is not easy, the larry says people in the region don't have many career choices. so they go underground. you know what is going on with it, and you will people just do that job's they go to the coal mine. the worst case scenario is always on the table. it's a game of chance. it isn't true that man is descend to die. it isn't true. and they

won't give up. it's not correct to say that it's scary down there in the mine. it isn't true. however, what happened is dreadful. the accident caused many people their lives. and while it is a great tragedy, the larry is thankful to the authorities. as they are quick to offer support here the wood sam wood forms, i'm sure every body will be provided with financial aid that every family with children will be supported will get help with paying for university phase. there's no doubt such incidents have happened in the past and help always kate, immediately. valerie's perspective on this incident is shared among many of the miners living and working here and the central russian camera of a region. and while this horrific accident has taken a huge toll on people, especially those who lost their family members, life will inevitably go on. but hopefully with some changes and measures that will

prevent anything like what happened at the siberian coal mine from ever repeating. mr. pike, with that report just on half past 8 in the morning here in moscow. nice to have you company, but back again at the top here. hello and welcome across stock were all things are considered. i'm funeral about legacy media continued to prepare a western audiences for a military conflict in ukraine. another war of choice. also the united states doesn't export much these days. maybe, except for so called values, or those values attractive anymore. ah.

to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest workers papadopoulos in london. he is a historian analyst, an author of the book, arise rossi in the return of russia to world politics and in plymouth. we have at re kennings and he's the editor and founder of the 20 or century wider doc. or you can just cross off rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want and i would appreciate it. okay, let's go to mark is in london. i pride myself on this program to keeping a microscopic, i'm what's going on in ukraine because when you look at the, what i just say is an outright propaganda and western media about upcoming war in ukraine. of course, russia is deemed the aggressor. but there that the audience is, are being prepared for what the west wants to see happening when it comes to ukraine. i don't think nato wants to fight russia. i don't think the united states wants to fight russia, but they certainly are intrigued by the idea that ukraine may fight russia,

which we all know what the result would be, and that is a plan result. go ahead, marcus. i am of the view that the wealth is beginning to reach a climax regarding your crime because america's goes in of russia has served a purpose. specifically by washington have been provocatively increase the naval. ready presence in the black sea, this has inevitably about a response from russia, and that has provided the americans with a pretext to increase, not only nato's a presence in the voted and in eastern europe. but it is also enabled the americans to increase their military and economic assistance to ukraine. so the

americans and the british on now supplying ukraine with sophisticated weaponry. at the same time, the international monetary fund, which of course is a weapon of washington and london, has agreed to release funds for ukraine. so we can see that a very dangerous picture is american and the americans and the british on now in a position to cement fission in your crime. and you're saying this is that they're trying to provoke a response. this is the intention. yes, they are trying to promote a response, but i think primarily they all look into and haunts position in your crime that carries a lot of risks. is fruit with risks because it was,

america does not and will not go to war. russia over you train that is of course, a risk of an accidental war and for nato. ukraine is necessary to and circling russia on its western border. but ukraine is not necessary to the western military block security. however, ukraine is vital to russian national security. and this circumstance is compelling to russia. we'll go over your crime. and if that means going to war with america, if you try and it will do so, because as i said, ukraine is absolutely crucial to russian national security. if the russians were sent in their name to the gulf of mexico, you would see america take very, very clinical. ready response, it is no different for russia in the black sea with it, but it's very interesting,

patrick, is it? you claim is also necessary for nato, because you claim gives name to a reason to exist. ok, because they, they claim nato's a position is that it's a defensive alliance and then projects stability. however, army ever more sophisticated weapons to kim is the stabilizing. it's the stabilizing to be the conflict that is going on inside of your brain. we need to remind our viewers. this is an intra ukraine conflict that i believe the west russia to be involved in is always said this is an internal conflict. don bass, of course. but if the dumbasses attacked, which would basically be a form of ethnic cleansing, of the don bass rush is. this is a red line here. so again, adding all the elements for a possible military action is as we just heard, mark to say, if this could happen by accident, but i have

a feeling lot of people in washington in london would love to see an accident. go ahead. yeah, absolutely. the other problem is you cranes become a kind of dumping market for corporate welfare in the united states. that's really what military aid is at the end of the day they're, they're dumping various products or discontinue products or whatever. and now we've got the issue of drones. and so, as the technology of military advances and you have the sort of the revolution in military affairs with drones, for instance, this is kind of problematic because of the proximity between russia and the ukraine being next door neighbor. so it does increase the chances of all sorts of problems, new problems that are emerging, that sometimes take years to get ironed out with the introduction of new technology . turkey is also been supplying them with arms and drones. actually the 1st drones, i think, supplied to the credit from turkey, not us,

but that that day might not be too far off. peter, when the u. s. is sending reaper drones or other, you avi's advance you a b s. the problem is ukraine's in this cycle of dependency. so the u. s. and the west have captured them politically. they've captured them. and now economically, in the cycle of a dependency and aid comes in various forms, ok, and once you get in that cycle, you become a kind of you become colonized by the west. i mean, next thing will be if there's a significant intelligence presence or listening stations based in the ukraine, then it control over the ukraine's political bodies becomes a kind of a foreign affair. australia had fallen into that trap years ago during the cold war . that's one example. many countries actually fell into that trap during the cold war period, and they're still in that cycle all these years later. so, i mean, i see this is a kind of a colonization, a long term colonization of that you could be,

i agree with that kind of mental premise here. but it also can turn into a wag the dog situation as well, because that dependency isn't now. now they're all in so many different levels. all we need to do is the seal. the deal is law, a few more of a few more drones. why with the don basses create an incident to me because you've already made a commitment. it can be very difficult to withdraw me. we already are now be a historical example of august 2008 a and saw percent ok. it's going to be and because if the u. s. doesn't now go stand by its commitments, then it will face a disgrace, the military. so the military, so i could be over very quickly. this is a political situation more than anything. and i'm sure that you credit the credit would like nothing more than to see the mix piece process realized. but a lot of interference continues to happen constantly at every single turn by the us

or by whatever leader it had installed for shrink. and now they seem to have a tremendous amount of influence way over the current president, zelinski. it's not about the, let's the markets over the last couple of days. lensky has been making claims very public claims. that there is a plan who against his government. here is this is another site got here or, or is he in trouble because he's lost his majority in the parliament. many of his close associates have turned on him. a major opposition figures based being, being held under house arrest. he's attacked independent media. he's in trouble here, but i mean, is this create this part of the site here of pensions growing, or is he sending a message to washington in london saying, let's go ahead nearly 8 years now. ukraine has been in the west sphere

influence, so therefore it follows that zalinski came to power as a result of his masters in washington, london, brussels having decided that he was the person they wanted to be in power in care of them for he is part and parcel over provided a pretext for ukraine to be eventually brought in tonight. so for you, for nato to increase its presence in the, in eastern europe and also in the black sea region. that is why the landscape is making these completely and off. and actually, unsubstantiated claims if he has evidence that a foreign government is planning a country and go to the united nations and present your findings there. that is why the united nations about is one of the reasons why the united nations was

established in the 1st place. but of course, there is no evidence to suggest that moscow or any other foreign governments in the world is attention to the reason he made the allocation is to give her a pretext to keep on building up its presence on the russian. yeah, but the irony is here, and then there was a 14 by foreign governments against the duly elected president at the time. i mean, it's really quite rich. you're talking about a foreign meddling in your domestic politics when he is the result of it. i can't imagine where they're getting their intelligence from that i can't imagine. so he's privy to the special briefings and u. s. intelligence will probably have plenty of files and dossiers to open up on the desk of president zalinski to show him how under threat he is from, from moscow, it's not in moscow's interest to be over throwing government,

especially in the ukraine and doing it in the sort of public view, but this, this narrative plays over so well and constantly in the west. so this is a very much a battle of narratives. and i might add that this is a very complex situation to not only do you have eastern ukraine, but you also have the issue of crimea and they're always keeping that on the burner in washington as a sort of reach out retaliation. pretext and europe's kind of almost gotten past crimea by now, but washington will just keep dangling it around like they do with cuba, for instance, constantly and forever. but the reality, the reality there is, they'll never contextualize what happened with crimea in any historical context. and they won't call out the actual how things actually unfolded there when that process happened in 2014. so you know, anybody out with, before we go to the break here. i mean, it's really interesting is a harping on crimea is in an army,

and here i mean this and be very low cost for the us. but it's very important to russia because it's border security and the security of sovereignty. so the white cynical game and ukraine almost had nothing to do with that per say. 15 seconds about regarding yeah. and only that, you know, this, you're constantly champing in the west oh, blasts and independence movements and f know, independence and so forth. and this is a perfect example, crimea of something that normally they would get behind in any other part of the world. but in this case, because of the no political implications, they won't only only friends get self determination. that's what we learn here. i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on, on some real news, stay with me. ah, ah.

welcome to max kaiser, financial survival guide. looking forward to your events with yeah, this is what happens dimensions in brittany del at this happens. you watch kaiser report. ah, welcome back to cross are all things are considered? i peter level. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah ok, let's go back to patrick. patrick lee, the the, the us with the by the administration is sponsoring a democracy conference on december 10th and 11th. that's all going to be virtual. i

think 110 countries have been invited. we can look at the, the list, ok, there are some interesting admissions and then there are some interesting additions which one good question. and it puts the entire idea of democracy and to doubt in the 1st place. however, this is an interesting cudgel here. i mean, it seems to me that the washington, the washington consensus is very, very nervous. it needs to convince itself that still beating the world in terms of democracy is if that is what is driving the world or this whole narrative of democracy versus a talker. see, falls apart like a house of cards. it's laughable in the 21st century. go ahead. yeah, it's, it's, it's the sort of contracts are just endless. and i, i thought that they would die off at some point in the past, but no, they're going to expand this sort of thing. and it's even more laughable. the fact that these are all being done remotely by zoom, for instance. so they're just kind of these digital com for ultimately very

meaningless in terms of what's going on on the ground. but in terms of showing the public what direction this sort of the social agenda is being steered towards then in that case it is kind of significant. it is important. and so this idea of social justice, this idea of this sort of cultural agenda is very much baked into the un sustainability goals. and all of these countries have bought into those talking points and those objectives. and so, and the world economic form as well. all these things, social justice, the, you know, trans agenda and inclusion and equity. and all of these things are baked in to the world economic forums literature and what they're promoting. and also the un sustainable development goals. so it's not something that's just a feature or an ornament. no, it is a central part of what's driving this agenda. so i think whether it's through

climate change and you see this at the g 7 as well, everything is gearing towards that. so they're trying to inject this on a globalized social agenda in any you can read. this is a direct attack on new traditional family structure to religious institutions and all of this sort of traditional features that have created modern nation states that have brought society and the world to this point in history. this is in the process of being undone. and i think through, through all these comp, i think, i think another thing that's being undone, go back to marcus in london. here, is that this is a replacement for what we understand as international law and replacement of the united nations. and in the founding charter, this is, we've seen this repeatedly, this is actually not a new idea. john mccain the late john mccain want to have this legal democracy is

basically in the washington consensus, superseding international law in the united nations. and we see this continuing right here and actually brought up a very, very good point is that this is all, it has actually very little to do with democracy. i mean what, there's 500 people being held in washington jails because of the riot on january 6th. what about their rights? ok it's, it's a bit rich to be talking about human rights when we have a situation like that. but what it is is that, again, it's is the washington consensus with its meal liberal ideology trying to replace institutions because those institutions are just been convenient for them. go ahead in line. so the societal changes, the diabolical society changes occurring in america for washington to keep home preaching, to the rest of the world about democracy amounts to simply inversion. because through his physical ailments,

i believe that joe biden epitomizes symbolizes how america is the sick man of the world. because there was a time when americans in the context of at home could claim morality. they could claim democracy, but those days are long gone. because firstly, there is very little freedom of speech left in america today as a result of mere liberalism, which manifests itself today for work. and of course, work very much includes b, l, m. there is a very little freedom of speech in the workplace and america, in schools, in colleges and universities. and also in schools. we hear how near a champion tolerance and a champion diversity. they are some of the most intolerant people you will come

across. these people love diversity. if you do not, if you do not support their values and i use the word values in a very loose way, then they will demonstrate to you and to everyone else look in on just how hateful just how violent just how poisonous they are. secondly, in my opinion, was something else which is emerged in america and has also the most in britain and which is worse than the deterioration of freedom of speech in america is the emerge of the most wicked, the most abhorrence, full of sexual depravity. and that is, he the fires rebranding themselves in american society in a way to normalize p the failure. so i am referring to

a term which has arisen called minor attracted persons. rash is a france for pe, the failure minor attracted to persons has a presence, in fact is pervasive on social major that have been numerous investigations which have exposed joe biden. to write to refer to our kyle, written the house as a white supremacist. but he has not full right to intervene and to obsolete condemn the emergence of minor attracted persons. that is why i say that america is a sick man of the world and to buy it for his physical ailments. symbolize this last, you know, it's interesting, patrick, this a, going back to the democracy convent that's coming up. mean a country like hungry,

which is a member of the european union and under european union, by laws you, you cannot be anything by the democracy to be part of the european union. it is a member of the united nations, but it is being punished. it's not invited there because the washington consensus and it's ideology. i abhor what the democratic wishes of the people in hungary support. ok. you can like prime minister about or not, but i mean he was put there by his the people that voted ok again. this is a very pernicious way of understanding democracy in it. it has a whole lot to do about the values that we're talking about in this, from the lack of values. okay. i mean, it's either our way or the highway and i think that's already been sent on by both of you. in this program. i had a probably the issue in terms are hungry. the issue is drawn the are of, of europe in the west is, is an issue of immigration and congress or bon stands towards that which, which isn't a lot different actually if you look at it from

a lot of other european countries. but he's kind of been singled out and also i think because he's more concerned, more conservative. he's champion family values, he's champing hungarian sovereignty independence, culture and so forth, traditional culture. and so this goes absolutely against the trend that western europe is heading very aggressively towards that the united states is heading a very aggressively towards. and if you look at this, i think the big advocates for things like open borders and things like the sort of the general depravity of culture and the restoration of traditional families and values court. the trends national corporate cartels are some of the biggest beneficiaries of each and every one of these. so you'll see they're also very much on the woke left as well. so because for their bottom line that you know, children are a massive economic pool for them to draw from now,

a massive consumer group that there wasn't there before. and in terms of, you know, cheap labor coming in or the stabilizing traditional family values. these are all group things that benefit in the short term anyway, the corporate agenda and the profit bottom lines of many of these companies. so you'll find them backing these candidates who are pushing all of this, this agenda, and you'll find them generally, you know, running these ad campaigns and marketing with social justice ad campaigns have nothing to do really with selling the actual product. but everything to do with inculcating this generation was whatever that sort of idealized or seem to be ideal or social justice messages. they are selling an attitude and a bad attitude at that. i would say mark is, it's also interesting that countries that were not invited to the con, obviously china and russia are not invited. again, this is a form of some kind of new cultural cold war. and these countries are not,

i'm invited to light company here, but it, it goes in line with all this have been saying here is that, you know, the particularly russia russians, a conservative country to proud conservative country. and it's something in the people in the washington consensus, or any other choice, no option, there's only one option. it's our option. and if you're not part of it, then you will be silenced. we will be disappear, you will be canceled here again. this is the, is it very much of a cultural cudgel? go ahead. marcus, in love, absolutely. new liberals in america and in britain and other parts of the west have appropriated was and terms and have deliberately the store to them in order to effect and so their agenda. so today in 2021, social justice has lost its meaning. a quality has lost its proper meaning.

diversity isn't as lost, its meaning. tolerance as lost, its meaning. these words and times have been politicized, and they are being used as weapons. and i should that since weapons to silence people in america and in britain who opposed near liberalism, who is one who spieler, but also a purpose in a g, a strategic way. and that is, russia is again, a great power. russia is the only country that can limits american global it, as you say, in control thompson's assign. sometimes russia is a very conservative country. it was, it was a conservative country. of course, under the sauce, it was a conservative country under the bolsheviks. on modern day, russia continues to be a conservative country. it holds its cultural and spiritual values. and that is

what provoked such a staying in washington and london. it was against russia. it's a breath against the consensus. i want to thank my guest in london and employment and want to thank you for watching us here. are the see you next time remember? ah ah ah, when i was a kid and engagement with so many find themselves, well the part we choose to look for common ground.

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