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just the funniest people know what family case i feel coming up. i just rather mail or something like that. they get things like on like their medicine, neck tracks, you know? so, you know, when that's coming and they know sometimes with special attention about on the job when you get to that point. so it's not even like a job. you know, it's just like a normal family thing that you're dealing with a letter on your door. it will be handled to a spot, thousands of miles away in the most remote corner of the night. a really great, i mean i don't get in the world. the phone. all right, there takes 3 or 4 of us to get my normal cup of coffee. if we get this letter
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anywhere in the world and you trust it's going to go, that postal service delivers a $155000000000.00 pieces of mail every year. approximately 40 percent of the world's name. you can actually see the people that you're touching and i'm a people person, so it give me a we come here for the news. we come here for our mail for the kids to play. i mean this is just kind of our social point of them. it's a post office and you know, the postmaster, if there are clerks there, you know them, you know, they're there to serve you, they feed job and they get to talk about things that are happening and what they need to get involved in can be all it takes it can be a bond issue,
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it can be that if there's a forest fire 2 miles down the road coming year away, each place is composed of different people on every. everybody's got a story to tell people the post office is kind of a window on the world to look forward to it. it's a nice interval. hi jack. how are things in a little bit of information about the neighborhood and the community take did pick a real life spice in the community. the 1st thing i learned when i came to the postal service was free work, the sanctity of the male. i'm jay and this is my dad right now where our front a maple crush station in maplewood, new jersey. my job was box car,
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window fire. and i spent many wonderful years here taking care of beautiful customers. he always had a lot to say about his job at the post office. i felt a feeling of accomplishment. every day i came home from work, a lot of the added to those that work here get very hard and they give you, did it by like you just get it today. i like to help people, i care about them and i want to give them the best service and most knowledgeable services that i can after hearing the stories for 27 years and watching what he went through to keep his job. and i said to uncover if what happened to him was happening everywhere. mm.
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i love my job. when i went to work, post office, it was a tough job. a lot of the jobs were playing out around here at the time. i work in the text to land street, and the meal i was working at was close in dia. when i started at the post office, i was 27 years old with 2 children. and i had 3 jobs working at the mall. they were all minimum wage job and there's no way i could support my children. i couldn't find about a job. the money was great hours, and it was just a great place to work. but as time went to a, i had never been messed with my whole career staff that are big to work with so many years, almost like they've had
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a usefulness out of me and it was time for me to go don't talk to nobody deliver to mail you can cut the law on climate y'all, or somebody bush's they would, they actually call you that. they're trying to get used beta and mandy of any time get you to break safety measures. but they tell you that is because i got your with i think i did. a pumping in my head was about a mutual distress. you know where you don't trust the supervisor or manager don't trust the workers, the supervisor we awards on your on one side or on the other. the system right now as opposed to service operates it's counterproductive in many places it's, it's a day to day battle. i was told by several host masters and supervisors throughout my career. i will follow you till i catch you. do something wrong. if possible,
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culture, you're the enemy. if you will find a way to get at you opening you amount in i worry about someone going postal. this is not an option for me. but what about someone that has put their life into the post office? what if they find themselves in brian's cross hairs? see nowhere out, no way out and decided to fire back. what if i'm at work that day and get caught in the crossfire? i warned them, i put it in writing and i sent it to the e. o investigator. and i know i know that somebody took notice because the e o investigator sent it to charlotte who sent a guy down to interview me for an hour to make sure that to make sure that i wasn't contemplating something, that the district manager was having a job with
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a town hall meeting, i told him, i said we're giving you this paper, this petition. because we don't want to sit around and watch tv at 11 o'clock news . and something crazy happens in the post office. and we look at the tv and see you guys on there saying we didn't know anything was wrong. mm. who were putting you on? notice that we have a problem and then of course we have this disaster tuesday morning where steve spencer, i'm committed suicide in the bathroom of the annex. i was totally shock. we had no one we, we didn't have anybody to talk to the carrier. we sent 2 people to the hospital
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after that it's just a tragedy that they had to work through that. mm. or stay with this happy face. he was just happy face that you'd say in the morning, this friendly guy. he didn't have any problems. not on the outside, stay was straight up fella. he always willing to take lead and all the things that the union and, and the postal service needed for the community. he was a timeless worker. me. this was the management supervisors that will be coming out
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and following steve me at 1st it was just every once in a while, but in the last 3 months he was alive. it had gotten to be $34.00 times here. take your lunch break usually and pass by or pull end of the place. you can stop and look and look at their watch. get out. check safe, your vehicles lock located. no and all the time that you're watching and then they move on. and that's to me that's for asthma me. i believe they were following him to shake steve up. hopefully i would find him doing something like the listing for that i can they can never do that. i think that's why and i followed him for so i
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will be kind of he will been the kind of guy that would be a sacrificial lamb to make things right. everybody else he was just good. how are you steve spencer was my secretary when i was present. the thing that i was shocked about is why steve didn't come to somebody for help because everybody used to go to steve for help be real honest, which if it was a steve a lot of days, i probably couldn't roll to people. even the president of the union would come to him for advice because they knew, well,
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everyone knew the post to management knew of the union members old any new that he has so much knowledge. and i think that's where problem the problem came in. they were truly afraid of being me. he was the one that they were determined to see played the puzzle her own. i wasn't surprised at what happened last week because i've seen it come and there's, there's going to be a lot more coming to if, if they don't stop doing the stress level walking into the building and make people feel like their jobs are on the
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line. i think they feel like that if they say something that they're going to be after, don't find things to go after them for that. i'll find things to try to get them out when we were voicing our opinions about what this guy's saying and doing. the problem interviewed 6 people, all 6 people said i feel my blood pressure coming up when i see this manager, the hair on my arm stands up. i get nervous. busy i get tense. i said what your definition of going postal. when i said that to majid heath threw himself back into the computer, the girl was taking notes, dropped her pen, and he says, we don't like to talk about going postal. i said, okay, well then let's change the word. you tell me what the word is that we use instead of going postal. he says, you know, i don't want to talk about going postal. they don't want to talk about that. the
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ah mm ah, where are you? in on august 18th, 1983 perry smith carried a 12 gauge shot gun to the post office where he worked for 25 years. he chased the postmaster to a nearby store and killed him shooting to former co workers in the process. less than 4 months later, it happened again in alabama than georgia in new york city. for more than 2 decades and kept happening. coastal employees came to work aiming for their bosses,
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leaving a week of collateral damage as dozens of postal workers were killed or injured. a millimeter. the montclair new jersey, there were 2 coastal employees kill 2 people from the general public and one main for life. i went and sat outside that office that night and had tears in my eyes because i wonder if i should go back to work because of the fact that this could happen to me. but it could happen to anybody in any walk a life. and i had so much to give up to leave the postal service me every incident, post office,
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a violence back then i was involved in i was called in dr. mike mantell, an expert in dealing with mass trauma arrive today. i remember talking about how quickly they cleaned up the blood as a bullet holes and how some of the post office workers said there's still some bull holes in the wall. and it turns our stomach and it turns twist sir mines. and it affects us deeply. and it was just get back to work. don't worry about it, get over it. don't just take a file cabinet and move it over to cover a bullet hole. clean it up. i've seen a lot of people there waiting the boat in their delay. those labor management relations delay strengths. i just don't think it's is legitimate. 3000000 in michigan. i know the coastal shooting rampage marketing supervisor came in at about 8 o'clock and had his gun under
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his coat. he shot chris carlyle and the head. 5 times came out, shot to other supervisors and went upstairs and i guess he shot some people who were injury comp and somebody jump out of window incredibly. everyone in royal, i knew it was coming and most knew the government by name ta mckelvey was their main target. they went after the guy for everything. they went after him because his shorts weren't the right length. that he went to the bathroom too many times. the day that he was actually fired and it dug 3 management people got in a car and followed him out to his route. they were following like within inches of his bumper and, and then he flowed down to, you know, 10 or 15 miles an hour. they said that he tried to hit them with you know,
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flam on the brakes and make them hit him. when it came down to was that he would not submit to them. and so when i came to san francisco, i was just shocked that the manager there was the same kind of manager that i had seen in royal oak. you know, barking at everybody screaming at him, you know, scream from across the room for you to come to her desk. so she could yell at you and for everybody in the, in the place is frightening to me, to be in there and the times that i went to the postmaster in san francisco and personally asked, what can we do because the morale is so bad that i can see how another royal oak will happen here. and the response always was to me. well, g is audrey. you seem to have some kind of personal problems. have you thought
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about seeing a psychiatrist about the supervisory appears to have been killed by a coworker later turned the gun on himself. postal employees were told not to comment specifics to discipline already. that information were on to release. both of these employees are very well liked they don't have any idea. no one could possibly know why he did it. how can that be that you just have the same situation so many times over and over? how can that possibly be? it has to be the mentality of the post office or by a
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. 7 with a union person in the local post office that takes care of any problems with management and any of the other employees just to part of my make up. that i cannot see another human being being easily harassed or to humanize any or shot of me without me getting up and try to assist them with the see the injustice. and he said, you know what, i'm either going to go nuts or i'm going to go do something about it. that's one of the things that made me, stuart. and invariably, you'll find that the stewards or people that grew up standing in between
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a bully and somebody who either couldn't or wouldn't defend himself. i am not an individual that likes to fight. i like to sit down and negotiate. but if i'm back into the corner to knock on that swing or both arms, because i believe in human rights, and i believe i believe morality, there's always some type of retaliation. whenever you get a really good settlement, whenever you, as that, as i would say, just nail a once they want to come back and get you. but this just isn't sure. it's not supposed to get personal as a shop steward. my dad had an adversarial relationship with many of the bosses around the dinner table. i hear stories like this one after he had lost a large arbitration in grievance with me. and he took me outside my 40 birthday without any without any your shot of anyone else and say, i'm
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a fire you for no reason at all and you'll be on the outside every 6 months. the year you get to arbitration in 1997 local management, postpone inspectors following me and filming me on a daily basis. they accuse me of stealing $500.00 over a 10 year period and put me out of work. this time i understand bob is suspended without pay, pending the outcome of a criminal investigation regarding mileage expense reports. it was the spring of my senior year and the future was suddenly uncertain in the federal sector. and especially in the postal service, they have incredible mays of how to resolve problems. it's totally designed to take as long as possible israel, my mileage vouchers for 10 years,
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which route only came to 2 miles a day, 7 miles. wherever i went, that they had asked me to go plus the letters, hundreds and hundreds of letters from customers that i service over the years. and i never had a financial shortage. never took anything from the postal service. with us workplaces your presumed guilty until proven innocent workers are routinely fired, suspended, held out, starved, and it is a disciplining tool on the part of management. most working class people can't sustain a, you know, a single paycheck much less several months of waiting for a grievance case to be heard by an arbitrator or through a grievance panel. there's always a fear. you're not going to get the job back in many people give up and take the
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punishment as i've known, single mothers and single fathers that had to feed their families and took the deal and made it look like they were guilty of something they never did. what do they get that are they can find with trying to figure out now that you will get your job back with bobby bobby far. what are you trying to do? he's trying to start with. yeah, i had one manager many offices in some way. the best way to, to take care your employees, the by your best employee and find something he's doing wrong and give my letter a warning. and i would say to myself, why in a world what i want to do that? well, they figured that if you wrote up your best employee,
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the other 4 employees were for line thinking. well, the is the best guy in the office for some minor little detail. they want to intimidate everybody. ah, the working environment in the postal service is combative. now we're getting warning letters with chicks are out there is one is largely here in a day because we're very getting. however, when you do that, you're still told you feel you feel you feel the answer to everything you did for your voice or you just because there's no reason why people are phrasing world well with my neck with we always say one thing to promote somebody
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who does the opposite. when you say i've had particular managers who i've received hundreds of complaints on. i've had to go out to the post office. i've had a shit down and have a come to jesus meeting with that manager about what their responsibility is and how they should be treating their workers and united states congress and washing or post office and, and reams out the manager. now, you get a response. i mean, that's, it's unfortunate that bad, it has to happen, but, you know, sometimes that has to happen. and if you have a disagreeable, the bottom you might be suspended. you might be called in for an investigative interview. you will see audit team's miraculously showing up at your door or 5 o'clock in the morning to look for your records. you mitchell,
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one little block, the 47 walks. also, you're being disciplined. i was told to lay off back off. you don't want something to happen to you. if you go to a post office and they have 60 routes, they'll probably have enough personnel to operate 46 routes. they'll probably have enough vehicles for 43 routes and they'll be short on everything they need to run that office in that respect. it's hostile, it's own, every little delivery number you are answerable for every single day in your post office, like say on any given day on the street. it's not the same day to different 24 hours management doesn't allow for that because they're so focused on the binary code. off the, off the numbers a you
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a tool that was bad for your eyes and your post. yeah. that it would stop you from having real friends and finding his girlfriend. but what they fail to mention is that you can make thousands of dollars every weekend by simply playing video games with a couple of them. but it's always fun, stuff like that, but it's up to little you facilitate originally it. okay, much for to do stuff is no fun. of course to make video games a high paying job. you have to be gifted and quick with it. hang on to a life. so typically thing people are still it's near bottom and miss thompson with established yet glove. boy, when you mouse stormy and others deal with are or you me know, neil's few are guy of the owner, but our vehicle it will still be stuck with these. it's hard to do. i also need
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