health tony blair's speech to the parliament, she fire on the cache for honor scandal. he turns to the free with a new build on board us, john, since a nobleman. but will it make any difference this time? right. these key introduced later in the program, but 1st tear teats emails. i messed up on last week. st. andrews dish, or featuring a special interview with a stored in or in dudley edwards restroom. george breton, he says a tonic to hear alex always positive and interesting. he frazer says another 1st class you thanks edgy test says as my american history like her own dudley edwards . ricky ferguson messages we want more than scottish nationalism to survive. we want our country back to prosper. micro your says scotland seems to be doing a lot of talking. the walking needs to come soon, otherwise border will arrive before that. i'm finally to liam griffin says, and i don't mean to be a smart alec. i'm happy for the 30th of november to become scotlands national day,

but the 13th of november was originally a holiday of obligation in the church calendar to celebrate the feast of state. i do not like many in the house of lords. the newly ennobled by been sick off has brought a wealth of experience as professor of accounting, a university of se field. he has immediately put this to good use and the cross party tends to hold the government of previous commitments to pensioners, but will it make a difference? he's in discussion with alex. love sick, a welcome to the i'll examine, shall pleasure to meet you and to be here. but you're a relatively new member of the upper house. the house of lords. you come on to the, the chamber with substantial outside experiences of professional of finance and accounting to see how have you found the r came process is of the house a lot. well just to amplify a little bit. i was professor of accounting and finance at 3 major. you can

universities. generally i was researching what i call the dark side of capitalism and now are confronted actually in parliament. you can see that there is in built lobby of big corporations and the rich people and frequently legislation is modified to appease those interests. and those people who are really negatively affected by the dark practices, whether it is bribery, corruption, money laundering tax dodging. often there please are not really heard, and this is what i really want to represent in parliament. i una advisor to jamie corbett. us leave a party leader this out. not for contradiction. suddenly hooted, advisor, jeremy, carbon st. let's cut out the tax dodge is the lobbying. of these big corporations coming in to the non elected chamber of that the house a lot on the appointed undemocratic jim. i think you're absolutely right. and one has to face up to these are a contradictions i came in the house and i did say to john macdonell,

when i won that this issue was 1st discussed who was the liberal party finance treasure and he was the shadow chancellor. i said, look, i would, i would go to the house a lot on the condition that i can vote it out of existence and have it replaced by an elected chamber. but another issue is there all kinds of competing discourses and issues. and they need to be amplified in all kinds of institutional spaces. if i, for example, i'm not raising questions about tax avoidance, bribery, corruption, money laundering. chances are many of those issues won't get a good airing. so i am really here to represent what tends to be ignored and marginalized because that is, that is a key in a sense, the good life that you have to tackle those issues had on. well, i been, i was in the house of commons for 25 years wanting to vote it out of existence as far as scotland was concerned, i am not one to talk now near shot time in the lord's store a year. if a mouse is

a, a champion of pensioners and this cross party alliance, which have been making some ground there, in terms of passing a dissenting voices from the lords, having them flung back in your face by the house of commons. but what does this cross party alliance trying to do in the upper chip? i think people may have heard different perspectives on this, but essentially what we're concerned about is justice for our retirees. the eucharist age pension is the lowest as a fraction of average earnings in the industrialized world, it is about 24 percent of the average earnings. the ear average is about 60 percent, and some countries have it even higher, and nobody can live on around a 1000 pounds a year of the state pension. and there are about 2100000 pensioners who get less than 100 had a week. and the majority of those are women. women are particularly disadvantaged

because there is no gender pay equality. and that then works his way through that they don't pay if he like, full national insurance contributions, they can get full occupational pay. so it is really people being condemned to a life of poverty, misery, and early death. and that is what we are really concerned about that that is wrong and that needs to be addressed. but it is not just an issue for the current retirees. it is an issue for future retirees as well. because current retirees are suffering from the past. misdemeanors of governments, so we want to make sure that the future retire is don't suffer from the same. so therefore you need and much, much higher state pension. now, what is that? this triple law, a professor of countless who can you tell our views was as triple lot that we're so concerned about. it was really introduced in 201111. and the idea was that the state pension said raw is in line with the highest of the 3 measurements that is

either 2.5 percent, or the rate of inflation or average earnings. and the government has decided this year that it really wants to suspend it. they say for one year. but that itself is catastrophic because that one years suspension means pensioners are deprived of about 5400000000 pounds of pension payments in one year. and the recent treasury forecast covers the next 5 years, and it shows that over 5 year period pensioners would lose a spending power of $30500000000.00 pound. can you imagine what the consequences of that are? and pensioners tend to generally spend money in the local economy. so a lot of local economies would actually be decimated as a result of the chance that shattered got by so it would be for the this global pandemic, we're still going through. it's a public expenditure increase massively

a to try and protect the economy, including pensioners and actually just asking for one year of a lower rise. it is not asking too much from the chance to list. well, that is what the government says until you borrow down into his claims. firstly, there is a 37000000000 pounds surplus sitting in the national insurance fund account. and out of that, if he paid f 5400000000, that's not gonna make a big dent. secondly, at the moment we have a huge anomalies. for example, in the u. k, there is no national insurance on unearned income. just take one example. what is called capital gains, that is what people make who own 2nd homes are dabble in the securities market, arch markets, commodities, markets. if you charged care and national insurance at the current rate on capital gains alone, that would raise a about $8000000000.00 pounds. and capital gains are also taxed at a much, much lower rates that earned income. if you did that,

that would raise another 17000000000 pounds. so in other words, the government can easily fund the rise for in the state pensions by simply dealing with tax anomalies or dealing well or eliminating the perks enjoyed by very few people. so capital gains, perks is just enjoyed by 263000 people in the country, whereas the government is disadvantaging about 12 and half 1000000 pensioners. now you put together wrong, the fathers se quitting x tory ministers a coalition to pass an amendment in the house a lot. but then it was flung back in your face by that the house of commons. the sat not illustrate that at the end of the day that the house of lords can huff and puff, but you're not the blue, the host. i think this certainly some truth in that, but the fact that the house of commons is not willing to listen. also shows what is wrong with our political system,

a political party with around 40 percent of the votes, and have a huge majority in the house of commons and then ignore all reasoned arguments. so maybe what we need is a form of proportional voting so that her broader voices are heard and represented. and we also need lots of younger people in parliament because it is their future we're talking about not just about the retiree's. it's great interest . if you look at the last few weeks, i bought us johnson's government and desperate trouble on what's generally generically called sleazy desperate trouble law on the the shift there at the national health service in terms of social care banker bought voltage to the benches. and yet no real revolt on pensions, rather curious that an issue like pensions, which of effects tens of millions of people, no sign of revolt, whereas issues, lack sleeves and social care, important huge issues, but not perhaps a acting just as many people. why is this discrepancy between what is regarded as

a political pressure a and why a pensions don't seem to be high and the government's agenda. the real issue is about poverty. now when the government says we can't afford it, what they are implying is we can afford poverty, misery, squalor, early death. and really that is the issue. the issues about equitable distribution . i mean commonwealth, it has nothing to do with the young versus old. and the media itself has been highly complicit in spreading that myth. and that is what we really need to debunk and hopefully we're deep on that in the parliamentary debates. but it is interesting when these things were debunked, the responsible they ministers responsible for pension had absolutely no answer. they were unable to answer back and quote, any statistic about anything and family move have food, tragic reasons. so recently the death of david amos,

the importance of consensus sentence even at danger to empties how to members of the house, the laws go about keeping in touch with the electorate and eat on hold subsidies. presumably lately can peace of mind that you do it online, the people sealant listener a have just speech slowed seeka, you keep going on pensions given your speaking for me, or do you take part in demonstrations for pensions? how to create members of house laws keep in touch with the people and issues that they're trying to reflect. while recently, after the or even during the debate about the state pension i received, i would say probably over a $100000.00 messages from a pensioners somebody clearly felt that there was an issue which needed to be ad and neglected. i have many, many online meetings and last week i participated or indeed led a demonstration by the national pensioners convention against death of senior

citizens due to a cold. many people just can't afford to choose between a heating and eating or they have to make the hard choices on the result is early death. so certainly i have attended many online meetings, also meetings and person. i also been involved with some of these activities before i came to the house, for example, amico, founder of texas justice network. and where we particularly brought the public's attention all over the world to organize what i would call corruption and sleaze, which is tax abuse. and we organize all kinds of activities against giant corporations and indeed government departments as well. so i am quite at home with these kind of things. and i really would encourage people to come out to the streets, make their voices heard because unless their voices are heard, very little will change. lot see come more strength, your elbow is a competing peer. and thank you so much for joining me now. examine,

shall. thank you, alex, join us after the break, where alex turns the political storm, which has engulfed the johnson governments in recent weeks joint a thing with the war on drugs noted as a way to combat a gray problem. what's the war on drugs? it's part of the attitude of the nation, not just of north dakota, and it got to be something that you could get elected. this time the fight against drugs took her to join chic. told us that andrew was competent short form is way too dangerous for him to be doing poorly. they put him in harm's way. a rural college student doesn't just get shot in the head and found in

a river like that. something else had to be happening. welcome back. the boys johnson govern has become accident prone issues is diverse, is northern real, the form of social care and government sleeves. the consistent message which emerges is that the prime minister has lost his grip. johnson came a copper last month when he tried to overturn the standards committee lobbying decision on former cabinet member and he won the vote. but the soon and headlong puts critique and ignited the whole issue of and piece. i'd say interest however, is the bigger issue, the clean selling of peaches and other owners for political pro. but i think young m p. this is angus, many of fun. there be a government into chaos in 2006. can you repeat the check with the johnson government? alex speaks to him night. i just randomly or welcome back to the i'll examine show

. thank you. good to be back. let's take a look at the, the question your questioning of the prime minister a couple of weeks ago, milly's on committee, which is a huge chance for committee chairs like yourself to, to us the prime minister, a succession of questions, lowest take a look of. i had to say, didn't yourselves look years down and should and so d b should stop sending big value donors to those a lot, a commonly known as cash for owners and seen as a very common practice international. how could you, at any rate that would be on the road today? yes, i'm looking for a not well, it was actually my colleague. yes, jonathan edwards, i happen to be sitting beside him by pass right on. i look, i think the answer to should, the part is end to the answer to that is that these are a bond large, better with contribute, huge broad to probably $3000000.00. and until you do the work to, to get rid of the system by which the trains you, you barons, fund, other parties,

we have to, we have to be go ahead. oh, will you have with us or you haven't completely taxpayer. the funded system of politics. we submitted and so we did, we need to continue with a system by which a public spirited people are give donations. now what interested me about that was almost an implicit admission from the prime minister. the reason for people going to the loves was the donors to the past, the conventional and you asked the question is by talking about a union bobbins giving money to the labor party. if such a thing, legal is not legal and factors and explicit ducks in 1925 owners prevention of abuses, act that has meant to say that if you buy it, if you sell an owner, you'll get 2 years in prison for that. that's just not taken very seriously part of law. if you case, i'll take it very seriously at all. i think it was really interesting,

but we the 5 minutes that answered was, he went straight to the fact that this was something he had to do for funding because the labor party, he was old and i will get the money from the trade unions. so therefore, the only way the conservatives serially could get money was $3000000.00 phone dollars to end up in the house of lords, $925.00 act open and shut case me foreman this of us and use that back as a young m p and 20052006. you hide tony blair, then prime minister on exactly the same issue that may yourself popular with 20 blame. it seemed to make much difference to the, the voters, to the well, i think by the time the election came in 2010, i think it was maybe plato in might have less labor, shorter funds for the 2007 scottish election. the didn't quite the coffers fluid may have played a role in the election of a, a certain individualist 1st minister, claiming the credit for the roughly yes. for that guy, simon,

we're going to make the serious point for those us the despite the fact that the met interviewed boy on his own to us and caused him huge inconvenience. and i remember sitting in the commons that he wasn't his favorite person. let's put it that way. mean if looks could kill, you'd have been sexually under it, but it at the end of the day lead to anything. so if you couldn't succeed in toppling tony blair, why do you think it's worth hurrying? bought us johnson. know, well, the korean, the collision then was 1000000 pounds to a place in his lodge, the collision there was 3000000 pounds to prisoners lords and an deflation in the us. and so it's inflation on the conservatives. ah, but that, you know, at that point it was really decided on the balance of probabilities that would be successful prosecution. so the didn't continue. i did think that getting some of those characters at the time in the witness box would have been a very interesting situation indeed because there were some the card gonna faustine

bargain. but the other bargain that's going on at the moment is that the opposition leader say self care, stammers that debbie, don't want to talk with this. and i've written to all 3 of the party leaders who send people to those of lords to say they will not send donors at those of lords that the response has been silence a, you know, they could come out know a d, v could come out here stammered, could come out and say we will not send your donors. there's a lot of them put pressure on the prime minister, not to do the same, but they're not doing that. and this is in the context of lord oak shorts and in 2014. when he stepped down, as i think it was liberal party treasurer at the practice of cash for donors to somebody feel to put an end to scotland yard them at the bottom piece. don't have the investigative capability of capacity who seem to go very far with us. something very strange. explain to us about the said bill that you've presented here with your, your abolishing the sale of orders. again, despite the fight this already the law of the land, of what purpose does that bill was the technique and introducing that parliamentary

bill or highlight to give it a focus. and it's a very simple bill that basically says anybody who needs more than 50000 pounds to any political party cannot be appointed or ennobled or to the house of lords repeated to 5 years. statistically see to give 5000000 or 10000000 or 25000000. just don't expect to find yourself names of lords for 5 years. and i think the, the, the linkage between no cache and honors, which is very clear in the united kingdom. it would be severely co tilden because who knows what the political weather will be in 5 years time monitor risk investment to make for, for, for, for summer, vanity or vanity possession that a rich people sometimes feel the need. well, yes, i can see that the media's fascination with issues like cache for autos, but as a, as an important an issue for, for ordinary focus. let's say pensions and the ending of the triple lot, the money that's been taken out of the pockets in the past is

a pension of what you did about that sort of thing. well, i think a fish rots on the headed off and said, and i think that the problems with this government are a multifaceted and this is one facet of the pensions and another facet of it. i think, you know, some of the things ease in action on pensions, i say, positive in action and pensions. it hasn't made the mistake, of course, that gordon brown made when he was chancellor. he almost 20 years ago when he up to pencils by somebody or a daisy seventy's expense or but still we're living in the u. k. with the was pensions in europe. all independent countries run about us. take for instance from scotland. iceland, ireland, norway, an arc of prosperity if you will. so surrounding scotland have higher pensions. this cuts through definitely, but it cuts through in various different ways and each facet. it gets it on time to be highlighted. the liaison committee, this is like a almost unprecedented opportunity for it was a back bench and i'll be a senior m p b a back banjo, but shelf

a committee and they should get the prime minister in front of you over a pool. be the time i'm late prime ministers questions when they obviously you can swap your way. you've gone and you are very much in your cross. yes. yeah, we get 6 minutes and just about an uninterrupted 6 minutes bother by the chairman occasionally coming in when the prime minister is waffling. when you try and a counter that. yeah and, and is not moderated by the speaker either you're almost you don't, chairperson. when you have your 6 minutes on, you can enter the prime minister. not a premise discretions. when you ask the question, you sit down and he stands for as long as he wants this time, you're both sitting. if you want to interrupt you interrupt lame and let him hang himself here, let him hi himself to describe square, go and glasgow palms, particularly of course, as a pretty much the squid as go. you're going to get with a prime minister and the beat, nina, and the entire for them of westminster. yes. last few weeks, the prime ministers come under

a lot of pressure on the genetic issue asleep on the social cale. and. and then with how much trouble is paula johnson. now, in your estimation voters, johnson's box benches have crossed a sort of a rubicon, a rubicon that sort of through the prime minister as a semi deity before. now the very much see defeat and indeed the legs of claim that the prime minister has good. and they've not only felt to do themselves, can criticize, but they've had others and colleagues criticize another moment as sort of it's been an e book for them. they felt stronger as a result on the, on the not as cold as do it, as i think we're going to see more of that. because once that's jeanene, literally in the bottle, that's very hard to present sort of a reverence or, and fear back in the hearts of those m. p 's that previously had that when the ministration runs into trouble, as the johnson administration has done, the people like yourself and the, the back benches. let's call it of the common. so be

a committee chair of course. and people in the house a lot like a lot of secor comes with his pensions. initiative is that when you come into your own is that when you, you sent blood, you think to yourself, i got a chance to make an impression here. well, it's sell the time when other people sort of pay attention even the, the spell that bought as johnson could cast over the media sort of goes as well and the media to cast round and look at what else is going on. they're no longer focused themselves on the sort of semi deity quarter day to put ups view of the pioneers, that spells broken and they're looking as do what's going on. and whereas the next piece of trouble coming from the prime minister. and there's probably quite a lot of trouble coming from the premise of, you know, the sort of things he's doing and on kid in england is, is something that's definitely going to bite him because you can't tell people that black is white and, and white is black unexpected to suspend disbelief in the way the bodies johnson is hoping they will. but when you go, when you get back to bata,

the we can talk of the steamy and bottom that the prime minister might be selling all of them in the saw thing. didn't topple lloyd, george didn't topple stanley bolden, it didn't topple tony blair. is it going to knock over wallace johnson? it could knock over borders, johnson, but i think that would depend on, on our police force kidding about the law. who knows who bought as johnson has done and said about the to the period. for instance, back a decade. yeah. got your receptionist working on that. now it did. yes. it's something. it's something worth seeing because them, but it is you bought as johnson would have at the time, surely would have call it as he saw it. that owner sort of being sold a question as did he say anything about it? did he say with an imprint perhaps some of the viewers of your program are might be the ones who will find those very words somewhere else. i was interested to go back to that club. we should at the start of the senate of you finally a i was interested in the primary this expression for you started questing. i mean,

that was i thought, mixture of he'll, we go again. oops. what's coming? know what do you, what did you take out of the prime minister, sir? glance at you when you started on your line of questioning. oh, i think the play minister was hoping to sort of go away at the same time. he sort of trying to make a friend of you. at the same time he's a he's, he starts to good and rabbit holes and i told him you, you're heckling yourself. prime minister. he makes up things himself and he, i was in the chair played interrupt me of that isn't committee cities waffling. so i have to, i have to interrupt the prime minister and he plays for time is probably the biggest thing. he just thing, and i want this over with a, this is an unusual angle. this guy comes from, it's not one i understand particularly well. i don't even you understood the word slander. for instance, when i, when we were talking over m sergeant watch slant, a vital word in fact, in fully the most important word in the gallic language, a for a little national views. what a slides me like the health and putting the good health when you've got a drama of scotland,

finest in your hand. i grow spread of it meal. thank you so much for joining me once again. on the i'll examine, show, great pleasure, thank you. and doesn't majority of 80 in the house of commons, doesn't make it immune from political pressure. the own austin tobacco. what the prime minister, a lesson on the limits of political power. he couldn't save his friends. but the same time the goblins successfully fended off a house of lords boards to protect the incomes of millions of pensioners. it may seem remarkable that the mainstream media invested so much effort into the issue of empties financial dealings and so little into the income of heart raced pensioners . what the issues threatened long term damage to the government's position. no dates in there. we small hours of the morning, the prime minister news is underworld without turbulent parliamentarians, such as lord secor or anger smith. he is, however, unlikely to get one but no from alex myself and all at virtue is good by stay stiff

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